sions of events and ousted u.s. ambassador to ukraine tells of a president running roughshod over his own diplomats in pursuit of his own political goals and that same president branding the former envoy nothing but bad news tonight will take those contradictory claims to washington and kiev and helena humphrey in berlin and this is the day. she was considered an obstacle to the for the roots of the president's personal and political agenda i still find it difficult to comprehend she was smeared and cast aside foreign and private interests were able to undermine u.s. interests she said well she's going to go through something so as we sit here testifying the president is attacking your twitter it's very intimidating but you saw. that in the 1st 6.

or so on the day a toxic industry how allegations of sexual misconduct have hit the walls of wine so how do you clean up the culture of a business built on drinking. to our viewers around the world and on p.b.s. in the united states a very warm welcome shocks a polled devastated those are the words of meri jaan of h. the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine describing how she felt upon being ousted from her post in kiev this year now about public and very personal testimony was living on the 2nd day all the impeachment hearings on capitol hill in which ambassador your benefits recounted that the president had called her bad news during his now infamous july phone call with ukraine's president without him as a lansky today as that televised testimony was unfolding president trump and his grievances with the former ambassador in real time tweeting from the white house

that everywhere out of it had served had quote turned bad now that tweets true anger from democrats and some criticism from republicans and for pos missy event of it she maintains that she was a loyal diplomat who as a result of her anti corruption efforts in ukraine had become the victim of a smear. campaign that eventually led to her being fired at the behest of the president himself individuals who apparently felt stymied by our press our efforts to promote stated u.s. policy against corruption that is to do our mission were able to successfully conduct a campaign a disinfo mission against a sitting ambassador using unofficial back channels as various witnesses have recounted they share baseless allegations with the president and convinced him to remove his ambassador despite the fact that the state department fully understood that the allegations were false and the sources highly suspect our ukraine

policy has been thrown into disarray and shady interests the world over the world over have learned how little it takes to remove an american ambassador who does not give them what they want. well let's take that full out from today's hearing to both washington and kiev in the u.s. capital jonathan katz is with the think tank the german marshall fund of the united states and our correspondent in ukraine nick connolly good evening to you both jonathan firstly to you what struck you about the good evening testimony today from memory you have on of it the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. well 1st i just want to say that i had an opportunity to work with mushy ivana beach and she's one of the one of america's top diplomats so there's deep deep disappointment in washington both sides of the aisle and her treatment and today's hearing where she again provided i think very telling testimony about an effort one to oust her

a shadow effort by the trump administration to conduct policy that's not in in the interest of the united states but to further donald trump's political own political agenda and so i think the testimony today particularly the moment where the chair of this committee adam schiff read out a tweet highlighting the president once again trying to intimidate mushy of autumn which to me really highlights the challenge that we have in washington i want to pick up on some of that with nick because nick the former and void was branded bad news by the president who discredited in ukraine. is that an opinion that has been held in circles that way you are is there anything to back up those claims. well helen marie ivanovitch was very well respected here in ukraine she was someone who understood understand this country very well she'd also been posted so ukraine and join a junior role before becoming ambassador she was outspoken in her criticism of

failures to combat corruption on the part of the government that didn't make a popular with everyone but this was a through and through careful career diplomat not someone in the style of say trump's berlin appointee richard grinnell a more flashy media persona she was the consummate professional and someone who generally was very careful about what she said and to whom or what i want to pick up that a lot point with regards to corruption with jonathan because during her testimony we heard time and time again micio about of it a point out that had always been to work on anticorruption efforts and that is why she believes she was targeted you mentioned jonathan that you've worked with her on such efforts tell me about her commitment to it yeah. well look there is there is no doubt i mean this is again. i think the record in terms of our efforts to address corruption in ukraine was exactly where the policy of the united states was

the policy of germany i.m.f. the e.u. the united states has been part of that effort to support transformation in ukraine to address corruption to strengthen its democracy and mushy ivana fish was a key component of u.s. policy of engagement in ukraine and working both with civil society working with government and working with different sectors and so anybody who claims that she wasn't doing anything but what the u.s. government was interested in doing or that she wasn't committed to combating corruption isn't telling the truth and i do think there is some truth to the fact that certainly when the united states and others are engaged in addressing corruption in a place like ukraine there are certainly interests that are not going to be happy about that engagement i think certainly what is becoming very apparent during the course of these hearings is how important the use of language is and to you know we've got in mind do you think that ukrainians feel the president was involved in

a tit for tat favor a quid pro quo all subject to bribery speaker of the house nancy pelosi branded it . i think the reality is if you speak to people here on the streets in kiev they are not following this difficult as that might be to really believe it from the sort of washington white house perspective when you ask people what it is exactly that trump was trying to get from selenski most people are pretty much clueless only really the people who really are the news junkies are following this to any great detail. in normal circumstances i think ukrainians would expect their president to try and get as close as humanly possible to the leader of the most significant western ally but given the risks involved here especially from the kind of expert analyst community there's even a sense of kind of sympathy with zelinsky that he really is now between a rock and a hard place he could investigate it and he could go along with that request in which case he opens himself up to charges of meddling in u.s.

politics if he doesn't he has an unfriendly white house to fear this is really a lose lose situation for him and one he didn't want or expect to find himself in and join us in on the point that this allegation against the president is labeled i mean it could be bribery extortion abuse of power do you think that will define the success of this inquiry ultimately. well i think i think the inquiry is still ongoing it's pretty clear that there was a quid pro quo expected by by president trump and i just say in your last word as well to you i mean ukraine is obviously being dragged through the mud through this process as well which is damaging both for ukraine but also for u.s. national security interests ukraine has been a priority a bipartisan priority for both sides of the aisle of washington and i think the president's legacy is not only about whether it's bribery whether he has committed

this offense it's about putting at risk u.s. national security interests. and sort of in a way that he seeks to gain something back and i think the biggest biggest thing is that the president is the commander in chief of the united states he is not supposed to be conducting business that benefits him politically and so i think what comes next will bear out i think there's enough information already laid out that has shown that the president is committed and act impeachable act and now congress will have to decide but i want to ask you more about jonathan because as we know whatever happens with this inquiry impeachment has to follow through in the senate of course republican controlled and now we have a fresh allegation of witness intimidation could we start to see those key republicans peel away from the pack what's your feeling there in washington. well i think these republicans will have to listen to the of the information and listen to

the witnesses right now it seems like they're not going to break from the from the president in terms of support i think in the back of their minds is obviously the upcoming presidential race and so how they engage with the president the president supporters could impact them selves politically we may not be at that breaking point yet but the type of action that the president took today to intimidate witness in a very public way while this while the impeachment inquiry is happening is damning and i think the ultimate court of public opinion is going to be the american voters in 2020 and certainly a story of the president conducting the things and doing the things that he's doing is not going to be helpful for him in terms of reelection and the american public certainly wants a commander in chief that is thinking about their national security interests or resentment nic i want to just briefly broaden this out beyond the courts all of us public opinion because this is you know not just about an impeachment hearing in

the u.s. i want to ask you about the global perspective how do you craven's feel about the president being sent to all of a scandal as well as the withdrawal of minutes resistance. well there's also the bemused when the suddenly ukraine is on the front pages of all the u.s. media lots of people as i mentioned struggling to understand how it is quite that their country has reached this position in terms of military aid especially here among those who follow politics more closely among the elites there is great worry that through ukraine gate the so-called ukraine scandal slightly misleading name an unfair term for ukraine that the brand of this country will become so toxic in washington that support for ukraine the johnson was speaking about that evaporates especially the time now where lots of european leaders are looking for a rapprochement with putin's kremlin maybe drawing back the sanctions to be in place since crimean donbass so really at a time now where ukraine needs american support more than ever this could throw

u.s. policy towards ukraine out of kilter for years to come if as it looks there will be no investigation $200.00 biden that means that zelinsky and ukraine face an unfriendly and unhappy white house for the next year and potentially even for a further term jonathan katz in washington i want to give you the last word because as the former envoy was testifying we did see then those tweets from the u.s. president and i wonder what's your reading there in the united states will it be more damaging the president's for taught on social media or the very concerning testimony that was delivered by the former u.s. ambassador today what's your sense. well i think that if you look at the polling numbers in the united states right now there's a majority that supports this impeachment inquiry process i think the tweet today by the president one head will certainly highlight that the president is trying to intimidate a witness and to prevent others potentially from testifying against him not only in

this case but in any other case that may come up against him however in the court of public opinion those in washington that are going to be watching fox news politically they may associate with that and support the president and those that will be supporting other other are watching other news stations to present different perspective i think ultimately in the end when you start to look at the polling numbers when you start to look at how the american public is feeling about the upcoming election these are very damaging moments for the president of the united states and i think the court of public opinion again it's going to play out over the next several months and i don't think that the democrats are calculating completely what this might mean for them politically i think what the democrats in washington are trying to do now is to ensure that u.s. national security is protected and that the president does not use these same tactics going forward in this upcoming election so i think there's some different

calculus some of it is to prevent more activity like this from happening but the other part is to hold the president accountable for for something that may be criminal impeachable and we'll find out over the next couple weeks where where congress goes and where the american public thinks this should go we sent you well jonathan katz from the german marshall fund over the united states as well as nick connolly our correspondent in kiev thanks. now i ask many women and they will tell you that when it comes to work there are few industries where allegations of sexual misconduct cannot be made since last year one employment sector after another has been found at the center of what has come to be known as the need to movement and this month has been the turn of the wine industry that's off of the new york times one of the newspapers that has been forensic in its investigation of abuse reported that a star so many had been accused by 4 women of assaulting them or trying to do sick

so many had recently graced the cover of a major trade journal and now he's resigned from the new york restaurant where he worked and certainly what has been clear become clear once again is that this is not an isolated case with many women coming forward to say that they have enjoyed abuse in a male dominated and at times toxic industry and as one woman in the wine industry suggested these allegations of sexual misconduct all quote just the start of a much larger conversation so let's start that conversation here on the day with tell you the whitby now she is the owner of vine wine in williamsburg in a brooklyn welcome to you tell me to start if you wouldn't mind by giving me the big picture how bad is it. you know like any industry there are pockets that are very crowded and there are some pockets that are very good so i wouldn't say that we are better or worse off than any of the other cities that seem the same

. do you have personal experience or are you aware of others who have dealt with harassment abuse in your sector. absolutely i mean as a woman working in aid and wine you're always subjected to the baseline excuse of harassment it's just and then there's a kind of a secondary level at which it's always been thought that you kind of don't measure up it's kind of an old boys' club that exists. when you're when you become a wine fire or start owning a wine store or as you get further along in your career you face men who don't really want to work with you as much but i work with other men. as a constant. peek at me and examples of harassment or abuse which some of your colleagues in the industry have faced. there's where there's

a well known importer who hides is notorious for saying go to great pains to both his employees and other women who work in the wholesale side of the wine industry there is another importer and new york city and we were selling a lot of wine primarily to men and to men and he was going out there and not as much to the women there you know there was a wine director who put certain women that he has worked bram on tables in which the teenager the customer the same thing and i'm there at their best there's a restaurant group that it is very it is known that it's very difficult to move up in the ranks you can only become get a certain level and then they will always be much higher in and outside of you before the hire along and that. is why i wonder what happens then because of course the very you know backdrop to all of this is that we are talking about alcohol and people's judgment but we're also talking about accountability all the cases all the

cases when people are around to stand up for each other and say no that's not ok is there accountability. we're starting to get there and that's what i was saying last week in the new york times where we are at a place where people are starting to talk and very impressed with both julia mohsin the article in the times and the research he together with women he spoke to her on the record and off the record and with the rest of the rocks in her speech you know i think that there's there's a lot of room that we are all responsible in this industry to speak up all the time and to take care of the other people in the industry and i i think it's a misnomer actually to blame this on be a part of an industry that has alcohol and i mean every industry that's not all if you're a teacher and you go to a conference for the weekend there's going to be a dinner party with drinking at it you know i it's not just just because we work around a hole that's be more susceptible or that we are worse because of it you know there

are a lot of people in the city to you know very well for example the drinking absolutely i think that's a very important point to make but to follow all not i do wonder though if that changes the way women in the industry go about their work if they want to avoid a toxic behavior you know if wine drinking wine is part of the job to people have to leave events shield themselves from this kind of behavior ultimately does that end up costing women professional success that there is definite correlation between the 2 it is definitely if you're not staying up until 4 am and to see through all the wine all night long because you've reached your limit or because you you know the eat take care of yourself feel weight you know the next morning early for work you can miss out on opportunities on you up to this it definitely is better to be able to consume and eat more alcohol or to be able to spit out more alcohol if you taste it every night that's on the com which is something we do in this industry get to be able to be a part. of this whole thing. how can the wine destry then be made

less toxic what needs to change. to make the winds to be less toxic i think all of the women in the industry right now need to start supporting each other we need to start speaking out a little more vocal way we need to to mentor of each other to hire women to buy wine from my men to. tell me that when they're behaving badly in the situation that their behavior is not ok and we and all to do it all the time to no longer be. the secret about everything. i mean me to is a movement has been spreading over the past couple of years thankfully we're seeing the effect that will so that eighty's in demick to many industries how pervasive is it would you say in the wine industry i think it's definitely

as pervasive as it is not all of the industries that i don't think that there is an industry meeting outside of teaching interesting it's what they call to be dealt with in industries that does not a very pervasive. toxic masculinity that is associated with that. we you know in some ways there are more opportunities here and there have been pressure in the last 10 years for women to do more and to be more involved but it does it does mean that you're still fighting against. the standard of the occupant very often opportunities that men around you get that hot. i'll tell you that would be thank you so much for joining us as well so big so open about to say to the industry that you work and wait for it thanks. thank you. now students in hong kong are easing their blockades of universities in the territory in one of the most violent weeks of clashes in the territory so far

barricades and rope blocks have become a common sight over the past week as students say that they are hoping they'll prevent policed from raiding facilities clashes on wednesday led to the death of a 70 year old man although it was not yet clear who is responsible. now hong kong citizens of payette divided in their views about the pro-democracy demonstrations and the chinese mainland as living in the territory their opinions are proving even more complicated a neighborhood forum on hong kong's political crisis one of many such events that hong kong's vibrant civil society has organized sociology lecturer a mini leader is happy to speak out publicly something she would have never considered 11 years ago when she 1st moved to hong kong from the chinese mainland. 2 rounds into it i had all but home i suddenly heard so many different opinions when i arrived this and some of them felt completely unacceptable even just talking about on this team much well this is i had

a feeling of danger which i felt they were foreign forces trying to change me or even brainwash me yes but then i became curious on the edge of the how how it's just today minutely ardently supports free speech when the pro-democracy movement took to the streets in june she joined them and when the government ignored their demands she even went on a hunger strike. since then the protests have escalated massively with police using tear gas and rubber bullets and protesters hurling petrol bombs and ric's almost daily and things just keep getting worse many people in hong kong are shocked by the violence. victim is one of them he also arrived in hong kong more than a decade ago he works in the financial sector and proudly identifies as a hong kong. boley all hong kong people must condemn the violence and the illegal

no matter where we are from living our friends from germany the us japan we only to stand up and say no to this though we are so this must stop orders for sure. but he's not concerned about the city's freedoms to those who say they fear that hong kong might become more and more like the mainland he responds so what question ending the 90 or so when i'm from lunging but i know very well it's all issues and you go to shanghai and to beijing and. i don't know hong kong very well so much should occur i think there's nothing to fear. i think the source of this fear is that people. don't understand the mainland. when you leave however is afraid of losing your freedom videos she publicly defends the democracy movement

are circulating online when her father recently texted her from the mainland warning that what she said was inappropriate she knew who was behind it obama. doesn't know how to bypass the great firewall there's no way he came across my speeches on the sense of chinese internet i didn't tell him. so the only way he could have known is that state security told him so i asked him whether agents had visited him he didn't reply that. media hasn't been intimidated by the threats so far she's do speaking out hoping to preserve the hard won freedoms. that was the day around the conversation sation continues online. on her.

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