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a new episode of groups our guests today are from hollywood and from all to no end of black forest region we know her songs from the german movie good to and from the international production pump a she has thousands of followers she's here madly in juneau. we. knew president in the show designated survivor and she has never and us never resting anti-terrorist agent jack bauer in 20 fall today you'd be playing the guitar we're so excited to welcome kiefer sutherland.

thank you thank you thank you. and i mean that's a countdown often will fail. it's hard to see how excel should come off 3 plus plus on the homicide not really. own actions if you defenders of these while who don't be asked by jambos from dio and adam was seek well i think it took me a while to get to a place where i felt like i had something to say i've been writing songs for the last 15 years finally got to a point where i really like the way they sounded and for the last 5 years been playing around the world and the audiences that we've played to have been extraordinary and one of the great experiences of my life hasn't even. thought he was just a little yes that's how much i mean was he. just kind of vienna she said just

as difficult ok we're going to play. now the 1st song people somehow learn something do not. do it. with. the. story. once told. me mummy's play.

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always considered myself to be the luckiest person i know but i've had a lot of friends and i've watched people from afar that have worked too hard in their life to have to support their family or their friends and they don't get enough time for themselves they don't have the luxury that i've had to do professional road you were to do music or to be able to work as an actor they work hard jobs and my song is kind of a plea to them. you know matter what find some time for yourself because at the end of your life if you look back on all you've ever done is things for other people you'll miss it and and i've watched too many people work that hard so it's a plea to them to do something that they love the songs but once you start writing those on a very personal level i've often thought that that what i love about acting is very similar to what i love about music it's storytelling. i like sitting in a bar with my friends and telling stories it's something i'd love since i was

a child and to be able to do it musically allows me to do it on a much more personal level there's a song on the record called song for a daughter that's about my daughter there's a song called scratcher which is where my mother's from that's about my mother. on my best day i'm not jack brower so that's a character this is not and so i try to find a picture that honestly represented myself finished 5050 kidneys systems which was our condition is 10 to an hour all of us to consume the sins on the cliff at this present is from depressive exactly yes has to do x. that and that it's at and that right sites but i'm stuck on high home when i'm from brain. constantly on the belief doesn't even by. you know i have i haven't had a holiday for a long time. you know i love working as an actor in fact a lot of the songs are the ideas for the songs were written all the way back when i was doing a show called 24 yeah and then. took

a little time off and then i showed at the start of the show called designated survivor yeah and. you know a lot of those songs were written during that time i would work for 5 days on the show and then have 2 days off in the band and i would go perform 2 concerts and then i would go back to work so you find time for what it is that you love to do. so i've never you know as soon as we finish this tour in europe at the end of the month i go straight back into doing a film for warner brothers so it's you make your choices and i have i have a full schedule this year on the edge by don't move into films target in mind i'm just displayed his unit that's on the stand just the shifty vess i'm just he said to me update is good so much for him a lot so you need to be pals and he got his was there any thought to the. lead up to have tried to do that so much but yeah. you know it's i think that's very different but it is

a form of self-expression but make no mistake about it touring is a lot of work when i sed when i started i have of you know i love everybody in that band and we're friends and i love spending time with them and i thought at the beginning it was going to be us having a lot of fun on the bus and land for a couple hours and i'm in a bunch of drinks. it doesn't go like that yeah the whiskey doesn't agree with the voice and so you have to kind of be good when you're on tour and so it is a lot of work but it's the satisfaction is actually being able to go to an audience that really doesn't know you they might know characters that you played and i don't know them but at the end of the show we walk away feeling that we had a lot more in common than we thought that's a good night yes the stool that's essam and little mice he can oh bust into my you consider stuck inside the house mika hasn't i have i have not i walked around all

day yesterday and just thought the city was beautiful everybody has been very very nice to us over the way we've been here for i think 18 hours yeah and have really enjoyed it it was much nicer yesterday when the sun was out than anything with the rave about us how such design devolved obvious. and absolute to the ins with his cab and business starts as he gets you born and some interesting he's been to me a whole ties that bind us he said. as i would know it's very very beautiful and it's also it's a mixture of times which i think is really interesting in the history of art deco and a lot of the qualities in the architecture here represent that and it is really very beautiful to dodge and that's what i wanted to buy the has just incredible and. i did for a while when i was doing $24.00 i met a girl in los angeles who lived in cologne and and we spent some time together in los angeles and the 2nd i got a break i went to go stay with her in cologne and it was what was amazing about it

. obviously i don't speak german and i wish i had learned this when i was in school . especially for the amount of time that i spend here now. but that was really my introduction to germany and it was the 1st time i'd taken 6 weeks off and i just came to visit with her and stayed with her and she would go to work and i would walk her dog and i did a lot of time down by the river and and then i would meet people and for all that all the german that i cannot speak so many people spoke english and then they took me and and i feel bad about this now when i left after the 6 weeks. i could say a few things in german i could i could get around the town and unfortunately unless you keep practicing that it goes away but i think i certainly could order a drink and by the time my veins go back and listen stowage them b.c. i'm going to see how they call me chilled and know how the how the elements. comes

to i guess profit of them you know. i don't think i think about you. i mean that i just come off the fact that it's of yes yes and you know if they can't pay their debts gets me in $15.00 you have an eastern keno vadim tigers ox is steeped stop state and extreme fuck i got you didn't you just don't use. trick by the end song and book to him just to you know if you don't know that song down that the gun and the walking in the insight into some devise of the day she's think you have to get to the justice of god yeah yeah if you're feeling to stand up to take

action should i go to well dressed and question to which you can look the backlash i have wanted to find a band of how do you not yes if you hear 9 contention of this they got it from just the hum dynasty and they can lay out his entire life to hash it all to stay close attention to glide crazy vestal behind it's too nice and i got it all done what you can just get out of fashion come back ok. i didn't tell you but you got in the ball you did great fun of chaps all of my clean you will make going to nuke. the slogan. for. good food is free murdered some reason to suppose was full of blood this code. isn't good food good good good good.

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you mt austin a familiar music yeah. i love the whole weeks i'm going to be. listening . and so i my mama had to interview me and was extra do you know. i meant what. she had of us was how much your mom image of us is that i'm going out of the instrumental middle men and how to push back and forth. and i'm not going to. be civically the system was you see me but i for me to say you but once. you get muslims i need to talk sometimes to global you talk you don't really know how many but didn't have one tea parties and 2 houses and some bit of to look on haven't thought of him a dimple comments on a tour of knocking on heaven's door we do play that not all the time. i like the story that i got to tell when i played it. my mother and father broke up when my

sister and i were 4 years old i have a twin sister and so on. it's a very funny time actually because my mother had to go back to canada where i grew up and find a place for us to live in a place for us to go to school so for about 6 months we were left unsupervised with my father and my mother was the one who had all the rules and my father had none i think i mean absolutely not and so it was one of the funniest times i'd ever spent and really one of the closest times i've had with my father and my sister and he used to take us to nursery school and he had long hair it was just like in 71 and a huge beard and a leather jacket he just looked different than all the other parents and he used to drive us in and old for ari that he won in a poker game. and in that ferrari was an 8 track player and you probably don't know there's been a truck players a musical device that played music back in the seventy's that no longer exists and

he played one record for 10 years and it was a bob dylan record and so. i would like to tell that story about my dad just that i like to play this because it does it reminds me of a really funny very sweet innocent time with my dad and my sister yeah well yes i'm beginning had these you know who don't seem to last he mentioned it out as a hallmark next. this is bullshit but if. this is all that's thinking files then let's me to. fix any. bad problem.

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dempsey job sniffles such as us if we spend much of that with us. i think we made the joke that my father. we didn't have any money at the time and that he probably owed a lot of people money and he said you if you feed me tonight i'll name my 1st son up tomorrow or so i got like me. really actually honor for william was my given really crucial when frederick was his father george was his best friend king for george rufus. we still don't know if you know it doesn't sound so obvious the united kingdom would never have been the man you could the home of nearly all the nominees. helped nominees to fumes and puns you don't speak to and under the name. passport of the sun and saw this last sunday times coming up just might be funny don't need my advice on the fence it's going to be doesn't it it can still knock a magnetic effect i just can't so i not answer thinking you know certainly not anyone

. of the age of 20 i have met people who have come to me and said that they've named their kid after me kind of like i make a fuss and and then i look at the child and i say i'm so story was all right. and then i try and tell them you know it's going to be tough till about 1516 years old and then you're going to be really glad you have it yeah i glad you're going to get your butt. and make it look i mean i quit and to tell us this but sometimes just sometimes we don't mention it like this case. that's all just joe i've been told that and it's a kind of extreme get out of a citizen of trying to get it. in fact i think there was a reviewer for the very 1st film i ever made in canada and he had been in a fight with my father over

a book and when the movie came out he said kiefer sutherland like his german name has the pace passion of a shade tree and the charisma of a mode log and i was like oh that's not that's not good i've done and he since that that that reviewer wrote me a beautiful letter saying that it was it was unfair but i thought it was very clever of him to to actually figure out what the name really meant i was named after a man named warren kiefer so it was a last name and here is the writer of my father's 1st job my father's 1st film came out and then not just to tease it out. i don't know all the monuments the right word but i'm a legacy concern you were. mostly done the text is about a lead toplessness of i am tending to work games that would have constantly stuff on complete tendency to constant younes that's come to know is a touchy one on each type that i like. looks

a lot this is an issue of justice missed my negotiation i've seen animals on and off my it's so obvious i meet them constructs i'm done kind of cycle of us until suspect had made us have to walk on buses will smith you and i would finish that right. and. i fell off just about business but except in the let's. get out i didn't even know how i missed back live it could have been influences i'm . the site. there there are a lot of artists that we see on the name of the labels are works i started it with a wonderful artist by the name of jude cold produced all of the records that came through there i think at the height of the label we had about 15 artist ok iraq to look in the bird was one of the big ones we did a couple of albums for life house. in the 10 years that we had that i was very active in the label and we had so many great artists coming through that were

writing all the time and i would go oh does that make sense or yeah maybe i'll start i'll just start with a title or maybe you know i'm going to start with a chorus for this one and i would pick little traits that these other writers would have and i kind of found my own formula to how to kind of start a song and once i did that it was like the dam opened and i had a lot to say and the true albums that i've made in the songs that i've written are the closest thing that i've got to a journal kind of of my life and so. it was it was a really important time for me and so the label was very very important and all those other artist web so much bigger labels and and so you know justice to young consignment of the movie came. oh my god yes absolutely and i don't care if you're a painter i don't care if you're a writer i don't care if you're an actor. or a musician. it's hard don't give up ever because

the actors some of the actors that i've known over the years didn't make it till they were in their forty's and they were just plugging away and plugging away and they get a little part here a little play there and then all of a sudden you know the right film comes along and they win an academy award and i've seen that happen and so and one of the interesting things for me because i started when i was 15. most of the people that were working around the time that i started working there they don't work anymore they're gone for whatever reason they had a family they didn't like the lifestyle whatever reason they call it but if it's really that important you don't give up your time will come. wired word. 25 am destroyed it desensitizing to have an issue that eats it up it wouldn't. she in 2nd role for both.

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that's all i think so i think you're going off in la i'm going and then the hospital and happen to me so i got into the tent from the nest and then i asked me to mention that the spending that sony and. kiefer do have cannot feel listed officially have additional so last month deal again with mom to let them in i can wreak children don't leave me out they don't leave they stay can go out and go over this which i did they don't i mean. i left home when i was 15 years old i ran away from home. and i used to have to explain to people it wasn't because i had a bad childhood i had the best childhood ever. but the world was out there and it was exciting and i wanted to be a part of it trying to get my kids to get a job when they were 19 or for anything outside of university the world changed i mean a lot of my daughter's friends my youngest daughter's 30 want to have 2 grandsons

they go to college they come back they move into the home it's very different culturally than it was certainly in the seventy's in the eighty's he's been seen as i know you talian i'm high tough to hard to give really slow but he said you know that's you'll have to me after i hide this time yeah yes young good and i think it's a balance of economics. smaller population and the world's gotten dangerous just as you published it just as today. yeah. took a couple years but yes. you know if i had the kids alone there was only so much macaroni and cheese you could get really really bad. and the kids just started growing in front of me and i'm going truth is i was really scared to poison them. if there's a very big. holiday in canada and the united states thanksgiving and traditionally

you make a turkey. you can poison someone very quickly with a turkey that's under cooked or slow cooked over a long period of time and that freaked me out so i was in a desperate effort not to tell my own children i went to mark. thank. you. because that's the back. but you know i'm not i'm not a super chef but. there are certain things that i like i'm kind of a picky eater and so i've learned to do some very basic things which will sound really silly but a good roasted chicken a good steak a good stew. things that are relatively nutritious but that you'll enjoy. and then i started getting into asian cooking. and so i got i've always enjoyed it that's actually the most relaxing thing i have experienced it's not necessarily music or filming. but actually getting all the ingredients putting them in order following the rules have that i actually find places that you haven't had time in

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