language courses. taught me well. this week on 77 percent street debate. nothing is being done here. i don't have to support some of anybody i cannot support returning is forever feeling our young people and we are continuing to feel our young people. the gallery is responsible for the highest number of people and the greats in pro capita than any other african nation and that's truly shocking if you consider the

size of the population here but now a lot of young people are coming back in fact the international organization for migration estimates that on a monthly basis over 100 returning a stepping right back into this country question is is the country prepared to take care of them and who better to answer this question for me than troll gambians and we'll begin with mr demba here he is actually one of the people who left the country as an immigrant and he decided to take the back routes known because it is the irregular way of going how was that journey for you was it worth it how long did it take just give you a little insight into what happened. to me i took time from. my. defeat them to maybe. they could not because they said if you don't pay money with you out of going to the prison here in may so i was having a menu i tried to get that money be they leave me. play. but to use

a true discipline to push the police to london you know i mean you can very well actually you money if you don't bring money do would be to me and in most areas ok let me come are you one of the very few women actually because statistically women from the gambia don't migrate it's men who make up 97 percent of those people who are leaving and i'm curious to know as a woman if that journey was more difficult for you and if the government has been there for you since he returned is was very difficult a week me i don't talk see it i didn't throw a lot of money there could not need there after i get there i can make feel i get the kidney problem before i am claiming i meet him there i think care of me because that then i was going there i become in. that is that's was my still wish and it's very dangerous but they are very take care of me take me to the hospital little me back to you and so a lot of gratitude being expressed particularly to i.o.m.

which i find interesting what does somebody you are a social analyst do you think of the gangway is too heavily dependent on international organizations to solve a local problem. that's for sure because gambia those in tough the capacity 200 this every right to depend on those international organizations international organizations i don't think they're doing well i think there's a lot of smoke screens and we do that here of course the girl is she just dunking the national youth council without them she would not speak here so these are some of the problems from the national youth council to the international organization for migration the e.u. projects that in if they feel success stories that become but on billboards in the country nothing is being done here this concrete it's not ready it's not equal to $103.00 tonys and he's better for the international community to make sure that our young people i'm not seeing for have on look for a long term situation change on the pushing mr somebody on here now talking about

people who were forcibly repopulated back into their countries but these ones return voluntarily resign gambians where should they be taken wish will they go but they should come here what i'm saying here is under you know what's happening in libya became bought from the media because according to. the international report the european union was getting the disobedience to talk to enslave all young people i'm sorry i can't allow you to say such things without backing i mean we i. mean your fact. there's no reason to raise. the international report i can send you the link immediately after this of the stuff that is confiscated so some very serious accusations being leveled not just against their will but international organizations that are just here for the power point presentations of the end of things here i hear effective as i aware or any u.n. agency or any international organization our role in any country is to support the government to address its concerns and

a huge part of that is rightly mentioned perhaps 2017 there was a limited capacity on behalf of the government to manage this issue but i think at the same time it's a bit unfair to say that any intern. national organization will solve the entire problem on its own expertise is in a.v.r. which assisted voluntary return and reintegration so many of these individuals. were in a situation in libya they just could not stay in it's inhumane and we believe that you mean assistance to provide to assist them in returning home and when they're home we can provide them reintegration in the form of skills training in the form of setting up a micro business but at the same time we understand that i cannot support returning is forever and i think we all need to work together with many different organizations to address this issue one of them being of course the national youth council the i.o.m. as his has rightly said is not here for the long haul what are your plans for

people like and to me you know 2030 years from now and for the thousands of others who still haven't reached the shores of the gambia i think. supporting what is an international going to. be here to compliment the government to force this course. and sort of government in the process allowing this is a. very you all part of this government you are representative of government and you're speaking as though it's a foreign entity what are you doing what have you done really. is the government sort of as an arm of government or the minister what we do is busy government in terms of what i've been on. because it just provided for them ok i don't know what has been provided yeah and i don't know what has been provided is coming from i am in terms of providing them support what we want is to see examples

of. coming from government to say this is what government is doing and not just continuing to say this is what i am have been and what i'm going to do is what is coming from so. the discussion is to ensure that we work with and we can bring out the example to see the government hospital by that i mean on dollars or $10000000.00 and this is about invest in times of supporting young people really want to continue coaching to say i am a supporter or to say i believe in the prosecutor but we want to be able to say as a government this is what we have gone and we have led the process of supporting our young people and not continuing to lie ok going to support the right let me come back to will suffice here because you know we're hearing from the n.y.c. that they have plans these are things that might happen in the future but you're already doing something about it do you think your government has let you down. providing it is not definitely reaching the most. people who've

benefited like me. can you can you tell me tell me how you benefited through n.y.c. we've secured some you know for our members through we've got our integration which is. not. to start something but at least we've got something from them but does not enough that's not what you think enough of almost everything most of the tonys i can see. not receiving to support us which is really neat we are also doing our best. to make sure that you put more honest minds of the attorneys and make sort of. at least something to hold on to ok well what i want to come back to you because you are very passionate about the issue of deportation is it immoral for western

governments to return or repacked treat young gambians back to this economic situation i think it's immoral at several levels i told you about the role of these very start governments that destroyed our society our culture on everything through cold colonialism. that's one part the 2nd part is the western government is very aware of the gumby as particularly unique situation we came away from what they call 22 years of brutal dictatorship country almost went into flames in december 26th in thanks to the collaboration of the international community we were able to a catastrophic now the situation of this migration i don't even call it illegal it's just migration it's been there for years i'm not seeing people should not return i'm not saying that of all across i know the situation in europe i know ultimately did have to come what i'm saying this whole rush to bring them back this problem started today i think that's morally wrong because you know our situation there you know we had a coalition government but in the coalition government right now has been torn apart they are trying to get to each other's throat to deal with the situation in

december we don't know what's going to. be a peaceful we hope for a peaceful resolution of this potential impasse the international communication community knows this why do they want to push these young people to come here these young people have traveled they've gone through different some of the boot our circumstances they've gone to some of these people have been exposed to drugs some of them have been exposed to arms so forcefully pushing these young people are going through right now it's like. striking and much on the. dry fully with detroit ok i want to another social. the same do you think it's unfair to expect. any other european nation. to hold on to your citizens until you're ready i think. on interest we have our own interest and the whole issue has been politicized to some extent securitized by politicians

both in europe and also enough. i don't think the government is ready to receive all these in germany or in. the media because already we have social distress in. we have demographic dynamics playing against the country we have like you mention over 40 percent unemployment level lot of young people in our streets doing nothing i think what we have failed to do is we have known the problem. is a big book why we always focus on the economic aspects of it that are socio cultural aspects to this problem how do you solve these problems how do we bring all these boys about without creating a cataclysmic situation in our country ok so we've been talking about deportation but i think it's important to recognize that there are those people who come back. and i just want to find out from you what percentage of returning from europe and what percentage are from africa so basically since 2017 i am has

assisted in the return of over 4200 returnees an overwhelming majority of them are from africa the voluntary returnees from europe don't even amount to $100.00 out of . an overwhelming majority of them are from libya 3000 of those are also 3000 of the returnees since 27000 come are coming from libya but right now we're seeing a trend of lesser needs from libya but more from the share actually so it really is along that route in africa that we're seeing most individuals opting to return home ok so coming back to you because if most of them have not even reached the shores of europe and they want to come back and you're saying we're not ready as a country what do they do for those in libya and the situation is very dire i think . to bring them back but still like we've all agreed here the. most unique situation right now can't handle this none of the statements here convinced me that

he is ready for this. economy. coming back to families. coming a lot to get the support to. go to these these countries now coming back besides the economics which is actually fundamentally important it's about the social stigma that d.c. will have to deal with like a family suddenly face so you pull it off on you when you didn't make it you're coming back we don't have a single or proper. institution 100 people who have mental issues we know of an issue on the 20 that was one of the institutions that deal with people with mental problems this guy killed 2 people so these issues are so complex i'm not seeing those in libya for instance i'm saying they should be or should not come back but the international community international organizations like i am should go beyond the billboards on the very flashy short videos of the throw out in social media and come down to the level of the people and tell people ok so speaking of

social issues i want to come back to denver because you actually told me that you lost both your parents during your time in libya and you ended up breaking your foot in fact you were telling me that it was hard to know when you came back did you have a support system where your friends good to you or did they treat you differently supporter of anybody so my only brought up my brother was supposed to me i went. to support to support him but still no. ok i want to talk to only here for a 2nd because you you were recounting something horrific that you were not only kidnapped but you had kidney failure so you come back to the country did you get psychological help did you get financial help. i have without. and i have one have to without my family. but they are doing for me because my daughter in gambia wants them in me or 3 of

them and it's going to be here it cannot be here i have to go to then i got to go through that that also. me. i have to do that and i says that they can help me but it's not that it's not too it meant but what is the treatment is to make transplant blaming and for show how to call it matter how you counsel they don't have that money to help me for that and 5 to hear is your friend fat too i also understand that you took that trip all the way did you make it to libya. also one is from libya and what have you received any support for get it in the government from your family and from your friends they welcome you back or did they start treating you differently you know i i thank god for my family and my friends it was the time i came back here they are the only people who'll give new support to survive by this time he was the ideal one

who held need to give me someone new to her for something for myself so i'm thanking god for that ok i want to come with a for money our journalist here what is the attitude for the young people of ghana to never left the country who then see people like me and most of being i would even call it showered you know because it might look that way from the outside what is that if you're of those who never left. they usually see people who. feel you know some of the units for one reason is. that i'm cross usually kind of what i. suspect people because of how the money to put themselves once was a media is one of the key influencer when it comes to being able to migration for example if you go to social media today you find so many so many figures by gunmen

migrants and even in italy or in germany. those in my. or the 2nd class because understand the force and that is illegal migrants on is the last choice of a huge concert out in the nature of the gun mia dissipates on the pole what she they use has been negative for so many years so be it felt hopeless so you spending that amount of money on being in the lead on that. big kid not been. given at the end of the day you want to come back to the country you know people are most of us a feeling. we come back to you because it sounds like the more we dig into this issue the more complex it appears to be so what needs to happen to resolve it if every step towards resolution compounds into another one i think what we should

admit is that we feel young people we are feeling our young people and we are continuing to feel our young people that's not the kind of news i want to be putting we don't have it i mean how can you. put it. what should be the responsibility of the state to sort of sponsibility this our citizens what plans have been good for the future what are we doing not in fact of what to ensure that in 202-020-3020 extension 35 when it's the timing again took an already same issue what this is happening now is because we have feared to be a country for these people that is why they want to leave anybody who would besides to die in the ocean state in your own that's a problem you know that's a quote that our political economic system not as a problem in our country how can we ensure that the young ones don't follow the same path it's not going to stop what it's for me you know what is the solution waiting for what can we do to ensure that we have our young people well i think

living dead must be a reason why do i question is what i'm interested in why are young people wanting to leave 0.5 percent of everything i want to leave that they migrate away for that is the question and we fail to generation will continue to feel our generation for me in as much as we have to put policy some systems in place to receive them to make sure we integrate them back into society but we should also ensure that we come up with policies proper to ensure that we rectified these whole mess because it's a mess nobody wants your citizens to be dying in this in libya in these areas. we have about 16000. my young people in germany what i'm going to do with those people . even it's going to be. 16000 but it's a problem ok before we get to n.y.c. just on the on the topic of reintegration as a solution to deter future irregular migrants how does that work how does one

become reintegrated back into their own country we have a team of reintegration assistance who is able to counsel these returning and gauge what their interests are what their skills are and reintegration package toward what we think would work for eternity now i think one thing we can do more of and you know as an international organization we're always ready to admit where we can improve a lot of this reintegration happens on an individual basis so there are questions of sustainability especially when it comes to how communities are being supported so one thing we want to do with i.o.m. is to shift reintegration to be community based what that means to develop projects for attorneys that involve the entire communities to be able to ensure that other individuals who have not yet migrated irregularly can benefit as well from the project. judge or the i.o.m. has a game plan for the future what. i think follows the discourse one is from a lot of this young ones that are leaving the schooling don't have

a skill when they get. going to come the medical doctor in germany or in europe wouldn't. be on. one second because we must not conflate issues we're talking about irregular migrants then there must be hundreds of thousands of gumbel's living all across the world who are there regularly and i mean to the point for me good point of departure. for. the quality of education we are providing for young people. to be meaningfully and. right if you look at the quantity that no government is the primary employer in the new guy you have government as a primary employer is going to be a lot of unemployment so we need a government that would walk through fire the environment for the private sector to thrive that is able to grow the business of this young people i've provided

implement that they need ok. i'm sorry mr judge i really have to jump in here because you're sitting on the national youth council surely there must be an agenda 420202030 things that are already in place you mean to tell me these are all discussions happening in the ether. nice and i should have been the government's agenda in the n.d.p. is to ensure that dies i am one of unemployment so the government in the long in diverted some dumb ones did use this immuno well i'm just going to 5 percent that is being able to provide the needed employment for the uncle how be and sort of environment is definitely conducive set that as i said business i would deprive an employment has been of employment is created for this young people in the long run well into something that will to stay above who let once the rich continue to be high dependency they would suddenly leave this country and continue to look at let me ask you know i'm not a gambian but i'm not convinced i want to ask the people standing at the back there are you convinced of the government is working to ensure that not only are gun

violence returned but also the ones who are here we may come close up is. basically . not for coast if i said we be fighting to the government here because these government as we speak is a transitional government and as a transitional government it's look more into into some kind of reforms honest than so in addition to that also seems to 27000 up to date how many grants have we received on loans in this country it's far more than 20 times the whole population because if you talk about 1800000 you are talking about 11000000 euros you are talking about 20000000 you know support from the world bank we are talking about or that you support so basically when i reply to all these forms that's one thing and not acting how can we create jobs for boss who are in new country and those who are coming to join us so basically we need to. look from different perspective

those who travel how many people are in the country who are unemployed so if we are saying these people have to come back and create jobs for them then we need to redouble our efforts and we should not deport. and tally on don't know again if he's really big that cease and you know. we've been if you put it into good use we can to get more jobs says the coming of these government how many new companies have received all institutions that employ more than 1000 gum yes we have not seen any so basically we need to walk more all right i like that we need to work more what works in your opinion what keeps people in their homes well i think 1st of all and i think as all they are they all rightly mentioned people need to have a reason to stay here and we can raise awareness and share information about the dangers of the back way but if people don't have a reason or any alternative to stay in the country then our efforts will be for

nothing so i think to be fair to many actors in the gambia there are a lot of for example funded in initiatives like the youth empowerment project projects implemented by g.i. said the belgian development cooperation all working toward skills development and youth empowerment so i think it's really building that the root causes and i don't want to speak on behalf of these organizations not that's not iowans mandate but i think we all need to work together with these organizations because that's what's going to create an environment which gives our youth a reason to stay in the country ok and very quickly dr paul i want to finish with you what do you think the gandhian needs looking forward so that we're not discussing the same thing 2 years from now would need to have an open mind all these young people have skills and put in so we must develop otherwise we'd be doing the same thing government cannot employ everybody but everybody is a businessman some people i wouldn't support in swimming in basketball in painting we need to explore all these sectors and see how we can help them through to develop the potential so they can live in dignity if we're going to live in because you know in countries we'll go and look for dignity in some other place and that is

what i think about very well and that's what we're going to conclude this conversation is definitely very complex and multi mad at the beginning we ask the question what does it take to get people to stop migrating here regularly out so was resoundingly give them something to stay for. thank you for watching.

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