naming and shaming will be on the agenda for the next 2 weeks the economy's doing the most harm tonight appear unwilling to change for good are they also one willing to change for the good golf and berlin this is the day. we need a referee than people changing the way we've. always be able to see how we move and always be the world. 25 summers has a clear. it's time to act like we wrote i was planning to teach the. we don't change our way of life we jump at times life itself. this is not a slogan in a sense of. social and economic imperatives. we have to take

industry. the technology to really know it's done for the queen for. also coming up a u.s. president trying to end the trade war with china last week trump added schiemann rights in hong kong to that equation in beijing has now reached but trump is showing no signs of a rethink no signs of regret. i. just want to make you. go to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin today with global warming happening faster than what scientists told us just a year ago and the world's biggest climate centers giving few signs that they are willing to atone for any thing this is where the world stands as the u.n. climate change conference in madrid starts 2 weeks to nail down. the details left

open in that historic 2015 paris climate accord 2 weeks to finally agree on how to turd words into action and to create a viable alternative to fossil fuels of the head of the un trying to sound more resolute than resigned says that the world's biggest polluters i.e. china and the us despite solid data and extreme weather well they remain resistant to real change that is needed to slow global warming here is the un head and tony of the terrorist speaking today. that was not disappointed by the pledges made by those that made pledges many countries 70 countries that. want to be carbon neutral in the 2050 many companies many. managers banks that really are committed to climate action what i'm disappointed with those that did not commit and unfortunately we still have

a serious problem with the biggest emitters you can hear right there from the head of the u.n. prepare for plenty of naming and shaming over the next 2 weeks will it be enough to compel countries to take action and do what they have already promised to do we take a look now at what is at stake in madrid. there is no sign of a slowdown in greenhouse gases concentrations in the atmosphere let alone a decline. that is according to a recent study by the united nations if this trend continues experts say the result will be disastrous future generations will be confronted with even higher temperatures droughts floods storms and wild files will become more severe and more frequent. after a year of protests the pressure on governments is mounting scientists are also urging governments to act they say that countries should increase their carbon reduction ambitions in order to prevent that even more catastrophic outcome.

at the top of the climate conference agenda as a global emissions trading system it would allow countries that exceed their self set emissions reduction target to sell a right to emit some claim the system could create incentives to further reduce emissions. the u.n. says that time is of the essence the last time that earth experienced such a high concentration of c o 2 was 3000000 years ago back then the average temperature was 2 to 3 degrees warmer and sea levels were 10 to 20 metres higher. or i'm joined tonight by helen bell ford she's vice president of world resources institute climate economics program in washington d c ms now ford is good to have you on the program you write today excuse me in a piece in the financial times that carbon pricing is now mainstream and that it's thrive and you say to think otherwise would be lazy because of the high profile

outliers those outliers there are countries such as the u.s. and china can carbon pricing can't it be a success if the 2 largest economies are not fully committed to. so interestingly actually both of those economies do have some form of carbon pricing in place at the moment we have $40.00 countries around the world and $36.00 states are provinces which have some form of carbon pricing in place now today or of how to put it in place they haven't scheduled that includes the whole economy in china in the u.s. of course it's been a very difficult issue at the federal level there's been a lot of discussions about carbon pricing bills here at the federal level the work of thing action there but where we are seeing action is at the subnational level that we now have $10.00 u.s. states which have carbon pricing in place and another 3 that are looking to add it

in the coming in the coming year or so so i think carbon pricing it is it is an absolutely not it's definitely not enough that we're not there yet and in most places where we have current pricing the praises of the moment are to love that being said we are seeing them rising and a number of countries in regions and we're seeing a much wider spread so i'd say it's really on the i wouldn't say we're there yet but we are actually building momentum and there is a growing spread of carbon pricing around the world contrary to public opinion so i think that is the difference i would i would distinguish there what would you say needs to happen in the next 2 weeks in madrid are we at a do or die level now what has to happen. and there are some critical steps we do need to advance in the trend i would not quite call it do or die i think the challenge right now is that we are really seeing from the science and from the evidence on the ground that climate change is advancing more quickly

than the scientists expect and we're starting to see the impacts today here now everywhere around the world and that's only getting worse so there's an urgency to actually advancing climate change that that we did not feel last year at the same time there are a number of processes approaches that are moving forward both at the national level but also at the subnational as i mentioned the going got some exciting momentum building from the finance sector and mine at sector is finally waking up to the risks of climate change in terms of their investments but also the risk of stranded onsets if they don't ship it to a low carbon economy and shift their investment that way quickly so we're starting to see some momentum the science is changing you're correct about that because we've reported just in the last few months that global warming is occurring much more quickly than scientists said just a year ago is the paris climate agreement then is it already out of date.

the paris agreement is not out of date what it said there in terms of the science i think still holds what it said is globally the country signing on to the pair's agreement it's a really aim to keep global temperature rise below 2 degrees and ideally moving towards 1.5 degrees celsius what we're seeing from the science of climate change now is that we really should focus on that 1.5 c. target to the extent possible it is not easy that that should be where we're aiming given the difference in terms of the impacts how much more we will lose in terms of communities in terms of lives lost to to climate impacts floods droughts wildfires but we don't have that even though well we should aim for 1.5 i mean that's the problem is it's a very interesting at the moment yeah absolutely absolutely we're seeing interesting lisa some very important pockets of political will and we're hoping those will actually galvanize if not even embarrass some of the others so for

example we've got 68 countries which have signed up and said they will step up their pears agreements are gets next year so $68.00 countries have already done so many of those are small economies and often the most vulnerable to climate change and they are saying they are going to move forward we've seen as i said the finance sector we've had a number of investors particularly pension funds and and some others who said what they were shifting away from fossil fuel financing completely they moved away from coal before they're now moving away from other fossil fuels and they're also going to be there's some that committed in september to go towards investment for portfolios that are 100 percent net 0 completely getting rid of admissions and their investment portfolios so we're seeing some action that's building in the us we've actually got a really exciting story to tell in terms of what's happening at the subnational level right now of the states cities and businesses that have said they are still.

to achieve in the u.s. paris agreement order account for almost 70 percent of our economy you said you talked about the your role is not that you talk about the united states i just want to share this with you had a very long layover at the airport in new york yesterday i spoke with people there who were live leaving big carbon footprints every day they did not show a sense of urgency or panic at all i was alarmed by that they were not alarmed at all what have people like you lot of people like myself what have we got wrong here in europe. well i think i think there is in the us in particular there is a discourse around. whether people understand climate and climate impacts or whether they associate it with something else so we get people who talk about whether they believe in climate change or not now we get that from that from the top in the u.s. we get them from tweets from the white house but when you actually look at what the scientists are saying in the u.s. including in this administration they are very clear last year there was

a national climate assessment report released 13 federal agencies their top scientists engaged and they said climate change is hitting the u.s. now it is getting worse and it is it is largely our fault we are actually creating the emissions that are leading to climate change so there's there's a debate that goes on in this country which in some ways is quite bizarre we don't get that in other countries we don't see people challenging scientific accepted acceptance around climate change and other countries so much so i think there is a real challenge here i think another challenge we're seeing is that there is this idea that it's going to be costly to the economy or jobs where is we've actually seen it's the opposite in a lot of countries and actually helping to boost jobs and growth and we know the growth will not be sustainable if you don't tackle climate change so so there's a few things there we need to be better at communicating helen out for vice president of the world resource institute's climate economics program joining us from washington d.c.

tonight is not for the time in your insights thank you thank you great to speak to . every year vast swathes of indonesian forest or cleared for palm oil plantations and a lot of that land is cleared by burning more than 4000 square kilometers this year alone the fires do more than destroy fours they release much more carbon dioxide than the fires in the amazon around the same time. the native landscapes are disappearing with. every year if thomas has large swathes of rain forest mainly to make way for palm all plantations. also burning peat lands a type of wetland that still has huge amounts of natural cotton when people burns it releases carbon dioxide and causes toxic smoke that's taken and more dangerous

than smoke from the forest is going to say ok i. got treated with oxygen because the 1st barratry problems when he came back after 2 weeks we observed that his condition had become much less. alongside the great health risks they pose as had a devastating impact on our climate scientists found that peak fires in indonesia pumped hundreds of millions of tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere this year. also notoriously difficult to put out because they continued to small to underground. we cannot extinguish the tries completely specially in the dry season we can only stop them from spreading.

the majority of peat fires still to be deliberately lit. other result of bad farming. in addition to slash and burn practices farmers are also draining peat land to grow palm trees rendering the soil dry and flammable. for years palm oil cultivation has been the go to means to make a living for farmers and some outre but some are starting to make the switch. this 58 year old farmer got rid of his palm trees to grow chile a crop which doesn't degrade the land. very very fast in the soil because it's mainly organic matter while. his son supports the switch to alternative crops but says farm is cannot rescue peat lands alone.

got $99.00 models up on the money i'm going to use that people have to be versatile it said they don't burn so easily it's completely wasteful to fan down. in 2016 indonesia's government established an agency to restore some 2000000 hectares of people and by 2020. but critics say much more what is needed to put an end to the fires that are destroying the country's precious ecosystems and our clan it's. a question for china how do you hit back in the u.s. where it hurts without it hurting well the answer you can tell the u.s. navy to find somewhere else to park if you're a little puzzled here you're not alone china today announced that it will no longer allow u.s. warships to drop anchor in hong kong and xing also imposed sanctions on several u.s. based in geos all of this retaliation for evolve passed last week in washington that

makes it easier to slap sanctions on chinese officials for human rights abuses especially in hong kong last week u.s. president donald trump saw in the hong kong human rights and democracy act of that requires the president to annually review the city's favorable trade status and threatens to revoke it if the territory's freedoms are curtailed china and slam the wall as interfere. john monckton's only shine urges the u.s. to stop interfering and commenting on china's internal affairs china will take further action as we deem necessary as the situation develops and will firmly protect hong kong's perspire a-c. on sibylla sea on the national sovereignty security development and interests. and i'm joined tonight by eric gomes he's the policy analyst for defense in foreign policy studies in east asia at the cato institute he joins me from washington it's good to see eric i want to start with these n.g.o.s. who are they and what if any

effect will this decision by beijing have. a number i believe it was or 5 n.g.o.s that were saying by china and all of them work extensively on human rights if years especially the ongoing democratic protests in hong kong and all of them it's difficult to say what effect the sanctions will have because china had already limited the amount that foreign n.g.o.s could operate in china especially ones directed at. the human rights issues so it's unclear exactly what effect this will have it will probably make their work even harder ok and we've got the big sign u.s. naval ships allowed here that is china is supposed indignation at what it calls american meddling in its domestic affairs is that in your opinion is that going to bother anyone in washington. i'm not sure i mean the the port visits are

something that the u.s. navy likes to do somewhat frequently but don't really have too much more of an impact on u.s. china naval cooperation like you said it's really more symbolic than anything else it's symbolic and to say that it's also. a rather weak response isn't. somewhat i mean right now like you said china doesn't really want to push the u.s. too hard on any one issue because if you push too hard on any issues here then you might risk the trade deal collapsing or you might risk other problems in the relationship so they're trying to link hong kong to other issues in the u.s. trying to relationship but like you said kind of hesitant to go any further at the moment although this might change especially if the protests continue or if they spread to other parts of what does this confirm what we've been hearing the entire time from u.s. president donald trump that the u.s. hands the leverage has the upper hand when it comes to the trade dispute with china fits the fickle to say especially because the united states and china have seen

such a little progress in the trade dispute there really hasn't been much movement at all so it's hard to say who has more leverage or who has more ability to influence things at this point but it's definitely a sign of worsening u.s. china relations and i do worry about in the future if the china u.s. relationship becomes more contentious we might see more serious measures by china such as like denying access or denying meetings with high ranking u.s. security officials we're we've got so many things going on we've got the trade war with with the united states we've got the riots in hong kong followed by the resulting victory of pro-democracy candidates doesn't president chinese president xi jinping doesn't he need to show more resilience if he wants to safeguard his own position and he isn't threatened. this does seem to this is my big concern is that china has reacted to these things by ratcheting up tensions further in almost every

single case that you mentioned and i do worry that even though we have all these setbacks that china has seen the passing of the law the whens and the hong kong legislature by the pro-democracy groups it would be an opportunity for xi jinping to actually take a step back and to adopt a more restrained approach to what's going on the problem is i'm not sure if that's all that viable given the past instances of behavior we've seen out of china where from one president to the next i mean it's no secret that trump opposes connecting human rights to economic and trade policies but that is exactly what this new law does is this what a president looking at an uncertain reelection bid what he does for i'm not sure i think that trump is really focused on the trade issue with china he doesn't really seem to care all that much about what's happening in hong kong and even when he passed this bill and had you know pretty much unanimous consent in the senate and in the house to get through so it was clear that he wasn't going to be able to veto it so under that condition it was clear that it went ahead but foreign policy issues in general don't play too much of a role in u.s.

elections unfortunately for folks like me so i think that the primary issue with china that will impact the election is going to be this trade dispute and what impact it has on working class and middle class americans and i think that trump really wants to have if not this trade solution done at least have a pause that last throughout the election so that he has that hurt by the economic consequences as with the cato institute joining us from washington d.c. tonight as always we appreciate your time and your insights thank you thank you for having me. for president donald trump southern wall against immigration isn't the only structure of its kind to stir controversy some call it even if you're poor just ask the danes denmark is drawing criticism for building a border fence to keep out german wild boar that border fence was finished completed on monday it runs 70 kilometers from the north sea coast in the

west of the baltic sea in the east the danish parliament ordered its construction in a bid to prevent the spread of asian pig flu which poses an economic threat to pig farmers now the fork industry in denmark if you didn't know it's a mainstay of the country denmark exports billions of euros of pork products it's home to twice as many pigs as people my goodness are for more on this we want to go now to thor and he's a senior biologist from the worldwide fund for nature in the danish city of helsingborg it's good to have you on the show so is the border wall going to save danish pigs from illnesses brought in by germany's wild boar is that what this is really about. it's what's what's the yes and it's a very good question but we really don't know and there's a lot of all the. vessels that is distributing the swine plague one thing is food waste another thing is the trucks osten the border and other things

also trophies and even wild boar can swim and if we have the video off of one post swimming 2 kilometers from the coast of poland and between then mud and german you have the fins for fuel. he said he can swim over these ports can swim 2 kilometers i know that pigs can fly but i've never heard of boar swimming to kilometer i mean what do you do to stop them then from getting through. yes the danish authority of the government has constructed this fence which is goes from coast to coast and then ma buck and it will prevent of course. you can say a posse of wild boar but there's also around to. openings around ropes and and i waves and in those areas of course wild or can cross and also crossing for instance a fence will fuel. and does this all in your opinion does it has it or has it come

to represent much more than just a border but between denmark and germany's wild boar i mean it's actually gotten much more significant hasn't. it you mean the swine plate has got significant on the fence well in efforts to build these ecological networks within the european union when you put a wall up it's comes to be counterproductive does of. great concern is is is these various in the landscape for instance a fence like this going border to border because it will of course also fixed effects a lot of all the species of the great amounts like here we already have accident with the earth is damaged or hurt by the fence that jumped into it ran into it and it was a fake migration of wood for instance more common species like fox and bachelor and what we really lack now is

a scientific evidence of the effects of this fence and we totally back it this in the in the process of making this fence where we are following this story mr johnson so please come back to us if there is new data out there as we would certainly like to share it with our viewers or our hearts and see your sort of with the w w f joining us tonight from the great danish city of helsingborg thank you thank you for having me. well the day is almost on the conversation continues online to find us on twitter either at g.w. news you can follow me brant goff t.v. don't forget to use our hash tag the day and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then about.

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