and with that welcome to the program twilight people is the new album by andrea saul and tom petty in a collection of songs a range for countertenor and piano a very introspective atmospheric listening experience a let's learn just a little bit more. counter-tenor voice is haunting. piano work on the new album twilight people. on the title track are from.

2 decades later. ringback latest collaboration explores the space between. and modern. pleasure to have time. here with me in the studio welcome thank you for coming in twice. a labor of love i'm assuming obviously between the 2 here and it's interesting because it's such a very diverse body of songs. from greensleeves to the 20th century composers that you've brought on there john cage. but you've brought it together in such

a highly personal narrative can you tell us what is the red thread there. what's at the base of this album is our shared passion for folk songs because i believe both of us we really like the simplicity of the folk song and the way that it tells a story. through the music and i we have been playing folk songs for as long as we've been playing together always putting them as part of our classical concert programs and in the past it's always been my very simple basic harmonic accompany meant to the melody to the existing melody which is the folk melody and when we thought to put an album together to record it i felt embarrassed to put my own arrangements they're not so interesting so i set up to look for existing arrangements of great composers and this way i found the arrangements from benjamin

britten and vol williams and aaron copeland and what was interesting for me is to weave them together in a way that shows the similarities rather than the differences and we also added 2 new songs by young composers. and these songs also have elements of the same elements of melancholy and snow lisicki and dissonance as well and i will get to those songs in just a 2nd i want to come to you andreas because there's a countertenor obviously you're specialized in early music in baroque period music this was really new terrain for you had challenging was that. i have a great love for these english folk songs some of them featured on the album and many more of these songs i studied them with my singing teacher when i studied them basel i know many different types of arrangements by john by bella i mean everybody who sings folk music needs to arrange these songs by themselves and. my singing teacher said the art is to make it not sound like an art

and that's the challenge with these songs that you know as a classic music singer you present them in the most direct and honest way without resorting to classic music money or is that what is it do you think i mean the countertenor community is relatively small it's growing as as as you told me by. for instance the cast patti back in the nellie's days used to be the real rock stars what is it about the countertenor just briefly voice that you think is so captivating for pinnacle i believe it's an instant confusion when you hear a count to 10 and you have never heard a man sing that high before because in society these days the roads are pretty clearly a sign men speak and talk lower than women do so a man singing high. crosses this barrier and confuses the audience and then the brain tries to make sense of it but you cannot make much sense over this so you just need to listen to the music now you've bookended this album very interestingly

with these young composers are you frankel at the beginning and you said that actually singing his piece the rest was a highlight of making this album for you let's see if we can just if you can pull that music in and have a have a listen to it. was. significant for this case for. the fact that it has the same kind of simplicity as the folk songs have. and then it talks it also has the melancholy in the year ending that you often find in folk songs on the other hand it relates to. more recent history so it's based on a text by play more levy and i think describes the feeling of somebody who was

exported from their home country to the concentration camps and. what i like very much is the fact the fact that i franco is israeli living in boston i am israeli living in germany and the other young composer on the album is joseph cao address he's from egypt living in london really a virtue also on the overt which and we can possibly pull some some of that in because that is the last piece of the other book and let's see if we can listen to joseph how about. an australian who believe. they have this sized. of building bridges between. diverse cultures and religions is certainly a big in your work and what is your experience with all of these collaboration of the many collaboration that you've done of how music. can be a unifying force i think for musicians it's so hard to understand that the rest of

the world can get along really well but there's so many conflicts because i've traveled in the last 30 years i've traveled all over the world from asia australia south america all over europe united states canada everywhere and i meet musicians all over the world and we speak a common language so being on stage with musicians from different different cultures different countries is something soul easy for us and it's all self explaining but the moment we walk on stage all our differences don't matter and we just there's harmony music exists through harmony so if there's no harmony in between the musicians on stage there can't be harmony in the music they they want to communicate and that's the sensational thing for me is that for me it's a daily thing and i have experienced that so many times and i wish that the audience can experience the same through our music well i'm sure they will twilight

people will be on tour with the album in the coming months tomorrow petting and under thank you so much for bringing us this music and for coming into the studio here today and all the best for the holidays thank you. all from me if ariel world of the soul to the very precise and composed worlds of cancun not the photographer from frankfurt creates miniature scenarios that almost always take some kind of a jab at our societal conventions making the tragic seem comical and absurd somehow optimistic. a street that leads to an abyss. an ordinary cafe. houses that could be in any german suburb nothing special but what's this the new neighbor overshadows the older buildings. something's not right here

do these buildings actually exist the answer is yes in frank kuhn outs imagination the photographer builds miniature sets creating self-contained worlds that he then photographs. as these mysteries are in my view that's all i try to show the entire spectrum of life in my works from tragedy to comedy and i'm able to do that by making the world smaller and representing it in the form of architectural models i. could not create says still lifes with great attention to detail uninhabited sets use humor to take a socially critical steps like these creations ironic comments on the realities of modern life. the photographer tries to make everything look as realistic as possible and his ideas don't come from his imagination alone it is a careful observer and he finds inspiration even in a highway bridge

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