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tv   The Day  Deutsche Welle  January 11, 2020 1:02am-1:30am CET

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twist's today western intelligence agencies suggested that the ukrainian passenger jet that crashed near the iranian capital had been shot down perhaps accidentally by an iranian missile iran says that is definitely not true but let's wait for the investigation so who can we believe i'm phil gale in berlin and this is the day. you know the thing that is clear to us on that we can say with certainty is that this plane was not hit by a missile. seriously the evidence indicates that the plane was shot down by an arena surface to air missile but the iranian state would never kill it some people this may well have been unintentional we do believe that it's likely that the plane was shot down by a iranian missile something very terrible happened very devastated and when we get
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the results of that investigation i am confident we and the world will take appropriate actions and. also coming up australians demand that action on climate change as the country braces for more mega blazes brought about by high temperatures and strong winds this one was ferocious just standing up in a hero and you could just hear the rumbling the roar of a. sound that never forget it's horrible. on p.b.s. and united states and indeed around the world iran has denied western allegations that one of its missiles a shot down a ukrainian passenger jet that crashed outside killing everyone on board ukraine the ukrainian international airlines flight was on its way from the iranian capital . to the you. cranium capital keir the plane went down shortly after takeoff it was
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carrying 176 people most of them in training and canadian it happened just hours after iran launched an attack against u.s. targets in neighboring iraq western intelligence agencies believe an iranian surface to air missile yeah we do believe it is likely that the plane was shot down by entering it myself we are we're going to let the investigation play out before we make a final determination support that we get to the bottom of it but we've seen we've seen video we've seen film of bulldozer nearing the end where you make a judgment you want to radian state t.v. we've seen bulldozers clearing the area that doesn't normally happen after playing us and doesn't take the accidents plane accidents or a very technical issue i cannot judge you cannot judge the porters underground cannot judge nobody can judge so as one obligation aviation authority cannot speculate we have to be certain of the things we say the causes we aren't sure of
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yet but as i said what we can say for certain is that a missile did not strike the plane. well let's get more on this from aviation analyst to julian bray he joins us from cambridge in the united kingdom welcome to d.w. so we have now an investigation and 3 track conflicting theories iran's going with mechanical failure or pilot error while an increasing number of western intelligence agencies are pointing out an accidental in the thinking is that it was a proximity missile basically this means that the missile is fine now if you touch the aircraft it comes within a few yards of it it will it's mode so that will then release not so shrapnel and carbon fiber shards and literally just lacerates the aircraft. so that this is what the evidence seems to be pointing to but we just heard from iran's civil aviation chief saying that it definitely wasn't
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a missile strike what do you think makes them so sure well with the graces of respect to the rain you know thora sees they're not exactly following procedure in investigating accidents they cleared the site they started clearing the site today they've had diggers out sort of moving everything away getting rid of all the day every there's been no mapping of the sites the no photography of of the site they removed all the bodies yesterday they removed possessions and they've let the local population walk all over what is a crime scene so. obviously they're going to say that nothing is happening nothing is wrong and you can't judge but the point is they're not allowing the proper investigation to take place and it's all down to the black boxes now and we're hoping they're not going to mess those up because the big if this was a missile strike then presumably we'll hear somebody say oh my goodness what's that
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all that effect. yes there are 2 data recorders on this take rare craft captures all the sound of the flight the conversations between the pilot traffic control. his copilot and you should be able to judge from that what state the pilot's in with is excited. lol or whatever's happening there and all the other side you have. to sit out your records every electrical impulse every switch change every drop in voltage all that sort of thing and then both on timelines and you meld the 2 together and you get a complete picture won't be napping all that crowd for about one or 2 hours before the actual incident and that's what we're off to now the iranians have these they have phones is they're saying already that one is damaged and they're not to say how they're going to go about it there is no legal requirement for the iranians to
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hand the boxes over to also the engine manufacturers the way it usually the boxes are sent to. an independent the barfly that sets out to decode these and this is what we hope they do with it we really don't want to raney and opening these boxes up and poking around inside to see whether they can get something off if it really needs to be expertly decoded ok so as you said there is an investigation so but let's speculate let's say that it was one of these proximity missiles for whatever reason how people are going to be asking how presumably a multi-million dollar system accidentally hits a civilian passenger plane how does that happen. well they could have been firing at something else and perhaps they are aiming mechanism wasn't quite right remember
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this is heat seeking its proximity it doesn't actually have to go towards the aircraft it just detects a heat source and grows straight forward so this is being charitable we could say that this was a mistake they were aiming for something else but the point is this missile did actually cold cause this plane to crash so way this is this is a new plane it's not even 4 years old yet and so if again continuing a speculation if this was an accidental shooting by an iranian missile silo what are the repercussions of that dog what happens to his health responsibility and what does that look like. well the west is the west the the countries involved are already saying they're suggesting this was a mistake it's unintentional they didn't mean it to happen so they've given the
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iranians a way out say to go along with this and we will counter that arrangement over it now the words will be no ongoing hostilities because of this particular incident accidents do happen hopefully not too many times. the firing this asshole and what they're saying is that they're going to carry out their investigation they're inviting everybody in and you've got to realize of course that boeing is american and the engine manufacturer is american so they're not too predisposed to go. at the moment so what they might have to to get a proxy team in because they've got associations with other firms around the world and do it that way but the most important thing is that we really really like to see these 2 policies going to somewhere like to be a paris who are set up for it and they can do all the proper tests and they can then give the independent report back to iran for them to distribute as they so
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choose that's very clear thank you for joining us aviation analyst julian bright. of the u.s. government has unveiled new sanctions against to advance the steel industry and senior regime officials secretary of state mike pompei oh said the sanctions are a response to iran's missile attack on u.s. bases in iraq which followed the u.s. assassination last week of iran's top military command general cassim samani secretary pompei o defended president to trumpet decision to kill the general saying that your brain attack against u.s. interests was imminent the goal of our campaign. is to deny the regime the resources to conduct its destructive foreign policy we want iran to simply behave like a normal nation we believe the sanctions that we imposed today further that strategic objective we had specific emanation information on an imminent threat and those
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threats stream included attacks on us embassies period full stop i don't know exactly which minute we don't know exactly which day it would have been executed but it was very clear customs of the mahdi himself was plotting a broad large scale attack against american interests and those attacks were imminent against american facilities including american embassies military bases american facilities throughout the region this is i think. straight to washington that when he joined the correspondent popular phone they welcome. the u.s. is ultimate goal is to follow what they say it's ultimate goal is to force iran to renegotiate a new weapons deal but it's hard to see why iran would negotiate with a country that has demonstrated such bad faith in the past and walked away from previous agreements so this fall we've seen lots of stick is there any carrots. well yeah that's certainly a pretty fair statement to say that but of course the goal of the united states is
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to put so much pressure on iran by introducing new sanctions adding to already a significant level of sanctions on iran that are already in place that eventually what will happen is iran will just not be able to cope and will have to. sit down and renegotiate a new deal with the united states which is what president trump has wanted since taking office and he has very much believed in this maximum pressure we're seeing it now with these new sanctions on you know so many sectors in iran finances construction manufacturing textile mining sectors also against aid to rein in officials who are said to be involved in destabilizing activities and actually phil i want to bring in something that's happened in the past few minutes which is that it's being revealed here in the united states in that one of the big networks here fox news have been showing a snippet of an interview with president trump in which president trump once again
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justifies the reasons why they went after and custom still in money and he said in this interview we'll tell you probably. see the money was going to be there going to target the embassy in baghdad he says that he can reveal that it was going to be as well for embassies so this gives once again more just a vacation in the eyes of president trump for introducing this these new fresh round of sanctions against iran. present trumbo old of last week's killing without congressional approval so the house of representatives house now passed a non-binding vote in to limit the president's ability to engage in military conflict against iran this code become if it gets support the house voted almost completely along party lines to pass this resolution. to day to honor our duty to keep the american people safe that is our 1st responsibility to protect and defend
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we must keep the american people safe the house will pass a war powers resolution to limit the president's military actions regarding iran i'd actually like to hear a democrat speak to the 600 gold star families the sole monny killed i'd like to hear them to finn that the resolution resolution before the house today is a step towards reasserting our constitutional duty to rein in a president who is unilateral actions have isolated us from our allies increased the risk of a nuclear armed iran and made us less safe don't try to pass some figley fig leaf resolution that is only intended to try to undermine the president in the middle of a conflict with the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism iran just about to publish this in washington pablo talk us through what this resolution
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actually beads well this is essentially you mentioned it before it was you know mostly along party lines of course to majority is held in the lower house by the democrats but this is really a show of force and power by the legislature here in the u.s. to say you know president trump you need to remember that we're here in order for the president to for example go into a war in the case of iran if he were to want to do that at some point that he needs to get approval from congress and that's something that they want to basically reiterate and show once again that he cannot just do essentially what he wants so it was also very telling that they also knew that if it does pass on to the senate you know it probably will not get approval because that's not forget that the senate is controlled by a majority of the majority there is by republicans. above fully honest in washington thank you meanwhile european union foreign ministers have been holding
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emergency meetings in brussels to discuss the crisis in iraq follow nuff foreign policy chief joseph borrow a call for deescalation from both sides and reaffirms a box commitment to the iranian nuclear deal the region cannot afford another war it really is going not afford another wall and we call for an urgent discoloration and maqsood restrain to every part we are also committed to preserving the joint comprehensive plan of action. without the g c p or a 2 day iran would be a nuclear power we have to avoid the spider all of a violent and create the situation in iraq that can be very dangerous for all of us and destroy is of work and efforts on the rebuilding of this
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country and the new foreign policy chief joseph burrell straight to brussels where we join brussels correspondent potentials welcome terry so where does the boro. speaking very statesman like but one wonders does anyone besides the e.u. care that the e.u. still backs the iran nuclear deal but there have been recent events rendered it it relevant. well truly it isn't helped by mr burrell's rather uninspired. pronouncement that the deal is not dead but you know it's not true that nobody cares about the iran deal anymore that everybody believes it's irrelevant because besides the european union you know who cares iran cares and that's evidenced by the fact that although it has now breached all obligations under the iran nuclear deal quite openly and flagrantly it did not kick out and specters and that
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truly would have been the death of the deal because the e.u. relies entirely on the assessments of these international inspectors to determine what it does next so the others the other parties that care about the iran nuclear deal are china and russia don't forget that they are also signatories to this deal and neither of them have suggested they want to either quit it or to take this step of re imposing sanctions on iran for breaching the deal so the other 5 parties other than the united states still want to keep it alive even if it is by this very very very thin thread ok so it looks increasingly like a fight between the united states and you around won't influence the e.u. bring to bear either party. it is true that the e.u. is largely sidelined here as the u.s. and tehran battle it out and the question then comes up if it's not dead is is it really alive and that remains to be seen but you do hear you governments sounding
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increasingly realistic which could also be pessimistic in saying that without the united states and without the united states removing these sanctions that are just crippling the iranian economy and and basically hamstringing the e.u. to do anything about it you really don't have much of a chance of reinvigorating this deal listen to what levy and prime minister edgar's drink of it's told my colleague max under today at the emergency ministerial we need to reach out today and i think states understand it's also not going to be an easy dialogue and then trying to push everyone at the table or at least to push everyone to try to find the right hole we can actually proceed however let's face it resulted in ited states it is almost impossible to revive the whole let's say deal as it stands maybe we need to look at the broader issues maybe need to
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more evidence ballistic missiles program and also the activities appeared on in the region because those were also 2 key elements that threat not covered by the deal 2015 and you know say that actually does to your shares are pretty important. so that's a really interesting statement from the latvian prime foreign minister because he is saying that the 2 issues which the u.s. used to justify its abandonment of the nuclear deal that is iran's ballistic missile program and its support for destabilizing activities in the region were not covered in the deal and edgar's rink of us is saying perhaps we do need to open it up further something the e.u. has not been willing to do up to this point which is basically stalemated discussions with the the united states over it launching a new deal now there's no sign that iran is willing to discuss those issues but we are certainly hearing perhaps more realistic rhetoric coming from the european union ok today's meeting of e.u. foreign ministers was also attended by you the nato secretary general what is nato
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is position oh miss unilateral military action taken by its biggest member nation against iraq well you sort of answered the question yourself phil the u.s. is the biggest military power not only in the united states but of course in nato as well and you're never going to hear the alliance as a whole speak out against any actions of the united states including this one and well some european governments have been quite open about the fact that they were uncomfortable with the targeted killing of customs the money nobody supported him but they don't like this idea that the u.s. wants as air strikes unilaterally without telling them without asking them and they're never that's never going to be a line coming out of nato headquarters social some brussels very clear thank you. not to australia but tens of thousands of people have rallied in major cities to protest against the government's handling of the bushfire crisis and to demand
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action on climate change the protests carry the country braced for more high temperatures and strong winds which are likely to set off even more places at least $26.00 people have died in the fives and more than 2000 homes being destroyed. burned out pickup trucks and fires that still smoldering on the side of the road the village of co barco was an inferno a couple of days ago. kyle moser shows us the chicken coop in his yard he was in such a hurry to escape that he forgot to open the door his parents had no chance the storm was ferocious just we were standing up in a hero and you could just hear the rumbling the roller of it was it would dive and it's a sound i've never forget it's horrible kyle and his partner david assessed the charred heap of rubble that was once their home they say they feel numb but david is also outraged he feels things should never have come to this point. in australia we
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weren't equipped we didn't have full i thought in your trough we should have had we should be spending money you know on that so we should be some thoughts we should be. because you know since. they knew they needed it even the building right next door to the local fire department burned down after months the government has now set aside extra funds for firefighting many say it's too late but the fire chief appeals for calm in the middle of the fire season everyone here is a volunteer. at the moment all arkansas is we have a lot of top people we have a lot of tomatoes. and we just get through at this stage get through the faults that we know that we have to have to be taking on more for. kyle and david took refuge in the local post office which they also run power still comes from a generator. kyle has adopted 3 kangaroo babies alys mother succumb to the flames
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well he washes out milk bottles tells us that many villagers here are angry with the australian prime minister and his crisis management he's not still not thinking about us he hangs throughout town only broady is his mighty kate he didn't bring any help he didn't bring food you know i. would have even offered books people water it was just his i need to wing it to cover themselves and. many australians have donated necessities clothing and pillows are piled up in the local community hall sarah cowling and her 4 daughters are looking for new shoes. their house burnt to a cinder i mean they had just moved in. there is a mark i'm going to last their highnesses well so running the whole community as a whole as well some think so it's good see everybody working together and as a community will do it will. cool band together and everyone will help each other
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and we will move forward as a community. some do not even have insurance but the people of cobar go are trying to me. do with what they have laughed meanwhile the blaze is burning on in other parts of australia. so here's a reminder of our top story iran's a civil aviation that she 1st denied of the ukrainian the plane at the vet's a crash near to was hit by a missile but counted as part minister says multiple intelligence sources indicate only reigning in that missile mistakenly hit the. year secretary of state mike pompei when treasury secretary steven nugent unveiled the new citations against iran's steel industry and the own senior officials of obviously republican solutions to the results of iran's missile attack on bases housing u.s. troops in iraq. of yet you can always get the news on the
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