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this is deja news live from berlin the world leaders say they will hold an arms embargo and a pledge to help end the fighting in libya and german chancellor angela merkel hosting key players in the long running conflict at a major summit here in berlin they've agreed to quote refrain from interfering in the war but will that change the situation on the ground.
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i'm calling last month thanks for joining us world leaders gathered in berlin for a libya peace conference this evening and they say they've got it results the respect to weapons and bargo in an effort to choke off fighting which has wrecked the country over the past 9 years leaders of countries including russia and turkey which have become involved in the civil war there were at the summits bay agreed to stop interfering the 2 rival libyan factions who have been fighting over control of the country were also at the summit but we now know they did not speak at the closing press conference nor were they in the same room during that summit so these . are joining me now in studio mona have me from d.w. arabic moni we just heard that press conference just wrapping up now as well what were your 1st impressions my impression was that a lot of effort was being put into that conference on one hand but on the other side i expected another outcome somehow on. so i was sure that there wasn't like
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a real solution for the conflict but considering like what you said that both national and both libyan parties met individually with. us it shows how big the conflict is and how unrealistic there is also of the conference are mean if the main players can through really agree on solving the thing and also it's very interesting how i mean i know that the external factors play a big role the forces but in the end they also would have to address what is going on between half that and so russia because hospital is a man of war and i don't think he will just adhere to to anything that is said to let's talk about what we did see come out of the summit of what we didn't let's start with what we did see so we did hear calls to respect the u.n. arms embargo that has already been in place since 2011 and we also heard commitments from all the international players that they would remove themselves from the process and stop interfering what do you think about what came out of the
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conference i think that in the end like i said it's just on paper as i mean how do you really want to make sure that the conflicting parties with their interests would really implemented what is being what they have agreed upon i mean they are and they and they have all double standards and they do agree on following the rules but what is happening in reality is completely different despite that skepticism is there any room for hope here because this is a war that's been going on for a long time i think it would have been maybe overly unrealistic to say ok we'll solve it here one day here in berlin but there does seem to be some sort of path here that's been laid out and medical emphasize the want to see a political solution is there reason for hope now that there could be some sort of political solution i don't want to sound pessimistic but i think that this is some similarities with the conflict in syria where there have been many conferences where where there hasn't been a real solution and like here i think that the real solution is not to stop any military. because both parties do not believe in that or also the conflict in
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parties so addressing that will not really help so i think maybe it should be approach another way which i don't know how it should be implemented exactly let's hear now from from chancellor angela merkel host of the conference she said the libyan arms embargo would have to be respected here's exactly what merkel said a short time ago i think we can safely say that we are all in agreement that the arms embargo is we want to see the arms of you see respected that it will be monitored more closely and more rigorously than in the past if that does not happen we will see time and again that this military solution is not excluded but that people are trying to use military means and we were all at one in saying that the documents we adopted today that you will be will need to be accepted by the security council of the united nations so mona talk to me more now about this weapons in bargo the history of it and where this might go i think overall
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this embargo has been told by many countries the thing is that many countries haven't respected it we have seen. like for example the emirates have introspected it hasn't respected it you have russia you have many countries like turkey turkey they just provide both sides with war with weapons and with troops and when it comes to talking about it publicly they do deny it sometimes like turkey it doesn't deny it at all but you have something like mosque or like france like russia and france they don't they wouldn't say that in public but they are doing this sort of i think until now saying that this embargo should really take it to be taken seriously is not the solution because we have seen what has happened within the last 8 years now we've heard what commitments were made there were a few things that seem to be left maybe. off the table were all pushed down the
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line so there was no announcement of a truce ceasefire here that they did mention the word truce it's not exactly clear how things will be in force as you mention we heard americal saying the issue of oil and oil income is also still up in the air what to you in terms of what it wasn't announced here what wasn't in the deal i think it's also a big role which countries will play what part in this whole peace process because in the end these countries are in that conflict with their own interests and i think they will try to move along with so that they can implement their interests this is the main things but i don't think that in the end. there is a roadmap that is there but i think it also plays a big role who is deciding what this issue coming into the summit of course is being hosted here in berlin by chancellor merkel but there are many other european countries involved we've been talking tonight about the interest that italy has of
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greece other neighboring european countries where do you think europe stands now after the summit is that maybe more united in terms of a solution for libya you know i think that europe is still quite split because of the interest i've been talking about of the very conflicting interests and because i think in the end the only thing that unites europe. in this whole issue is maybe that it wants. to. fight the thing on the issue of migration and to to try to counter part terrorism just stand in front of it so because this is a main issue in the live libyan crisis and this is the only point but who wants to do that in which way and who wants to support which side is completely split there were other countries and other leaders involved here boris johnson of the u.k. pale the secretary of state from the united states was there. as well many of those leaders as we heard actually left earlier where do you think those countries. and
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what sort of message to send we only saw a few leaders 2 of them were german we didn't see any we didn't see the united states of the table we didn't see turkey the table we didn't see russia at the table i think it's very interesting about turkey because also like turkey participating in this is kind of absurd because turkey is a key player in this issue in this conflict and i don't think that turkey is one of the countries that will respect and advance. implementation of the embargo and aragon being there is just i think something just very symbolic to attend the conference but in the end he cannot be a part of the war and try to be a part of the of the peace process if it's obvious that this is not his goal talk to me a bit if you can about these 2 sides in libya want to go back to libya of course because those are the sides of will have to figure out some sort of solution if we do see a lasting at least a cease fire. and the u.n. back to government they're not agreeing on much they worked in the same room even is there anything that they can agree on do you think that there's any sort of
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foundation of they can start on to start to build some sort of process towards a cease fire no i don't think so because the thing is you have in tripoli you have the muslim brotherhood and this is one big issue for the countries that are getting into the whole conflict that some countries the neighboring countries such as egypt for example they really do not want the muslim brotherhood to be in charge and you have turkey on the other hand was supporting the muslim brotherhood so has put a lot of effort into taking over such a huge part of the country and i think if he sets back it will be a big issue because he also stated that he does not want to see. arrogance interference in the country so in the end i don't think he will give up that easily and with the u.n. backed government having so many countries behind it i don't also think that they will give up their standpoint ok mona me with a big no i want to turn to that summit we want to go there where you chief political editor cooper is standing by for us now understand you were standing by
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at the summit you were in the press conference i want to get your impressions what did you think of what we heard there tonight. well in a nutshell what i heard during that press conference is that everybody except the warring parties has agreed on a cease fire and that of course won't mean that this is immediately a fact on the ground this is also something the hosts german chancellor angela merkel stress that she didn't have any illusions about immediate stability in libya at the same time what they did manage to secure from general haftar who is this key force in the country is that he has now nominated 5 delegates to sit down with the other side next week and there's a clear undercurrent here that his supporters namely russia have agreed to exercise some pressure although it wasn't mentioned in his many words but with all sides agreeing on a weapons embargo and which already was agreed through the u.n.
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but actually sticking to it there is now an impetus and there's less room for general haftar to maneuver if he wants to remain the strong man in libya who is after all also depending on at least being tolerated by major international powers will be heard one of the big announcement as you mentioned the arms embargo which in fact has been in place for a long time so we know who will be enforcing that i mean what will this embargoed look like. well that's exactly the question that i put to the german chancellor and she said that what they had agreed to on the table was not a sanctions regime something which was initially floated but that there was a recognition particularly amongst those major powers and in the un security council that the inflow weapons needed to be stopped also with a carry out there because the people already on the ground which she described very
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neutrally as people but of course this means mercenaries soldiers are already being deployed through turkey through russia and also the material as she called it which is nothing nothing else than weapons already that would be subject to the negotiations for that truce which hope will be agreed next week so a lot of ifs still there and then antonio terrace the u.n. secretary general almost jumped in and said he would like to add that there needs to be a recognition that this is a continuous violation of international law after all there is a u.n. resolution on that very weapons embargo and he called on all key actors to stick to what they've already signed on paper. there are a lot of expectations for these peace talks we had seen basically failed peace talks earlier just a few days ago in comparison and maybe this is somewhat of a success i mean do you think that the outcome here is satisfying for everyone who was involved. well germany was the host and the german foreign minister
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also key staff of german chancellor angela merkel in advance wouldn't say what the benchmark would be to call this a success that was a deliberate action but even from critics $101.00 here is that bringing all these sides around one table although the warring parties want in the room but these major powers was a success in itself the question is whether it really will translate into 1st potential political steps on the ground or whether weapons will be continued to be worth a lot more than words or political actions so i think we're a bit it's a bit too early to judge whether this was a potential turning point for libya but the fact that it did take place added some credibility at least to the ability particularly of europeans to do international diplomacy to actually put something on the road that means that peace can
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potentially be negotiated this is particularly important since the iran nuclear deal is seen as pretty much on its last leg and that was seen as the way forward as far as the europeans certainly were concerned in how conflicts should be resolved in the future. our chief political editor thank you very much to have me with arabic thank you both for your analysis. we've been bringing you special coverage of the libya summit here in berlin german chancellor angela merkel has said the summit made a quote important contribution to efforts towards peace she said world leaders in attendance have pledged to uphold an arms embargo which has up to now been repeatedly violated. you watching the news i'm calm as been embroiled in from all of us here thank you for watching we will continue to bring you the latest from that libya the summit until now we'll see the top of the hour.
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