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become followers who stay behind and simply my husband went to peru because of the crisis. if he hadn't gone there we would have died of hunger. lansana knowledge down to. just this week trying to. get out of the. a ceasefire in libya made in berlin on sunday german chancellor angela merkel invited practically everyone with a stake in libya's civil war to come to berlin and talk peace they said yes to a cease fire tonight germany the soft power peace broker how much of this is policy how much is the personality of uncle americal i'm burned off in berlin this is the day.
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as collision and there. was averted in the lead in the. town hall piece missing must provide the basis to turn a truce into a solid fees fire. that your stomach of the community the countries that have influence on the ground in libya have pledged not to take any actions that will encourage the warring libyan parties to resume fighting. there's still a lot of work to do it's a complicated battlefield ceasefire that. requires someone to take a look at it and not say this is a cease fire and i'm. also coming up tonight the elite of business politics and climate change are meeting this week in the swiss alps that includes donald trump and gratitude in the same place but not on the same page its leader sure things the president proposed coming because.
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it's a global. meetings so we see him involved in global issues on the other hand it's crazy or suring to have create that back. to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with the birth in berlin of a cease fire in. tripoli and beyond on sunday german chancellor angela merkel hosted a conference aimed at bringing an end to the finding in libya a civil war that has become a proxy war for countries such as russia turkey egypt and the u.a.e. and all of those countries and more had a place at the negotiating table yesterday just a few days earlier peace talks sponsored by turkey and russia had collapsed but that did not happen during the talks under the stewardship of uncle americal and it's important to remember for years europe has tried to look a way to ignore the power vacuum in libya this time germany's chancellor apparently
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saw a chance and took it how should the world read that german soft power at work germany stepping in when the european union can't find its feet or was it until america her style her personality that made the worrying generals talk peace. the mighty gathered in berlin on a sunday afternoon world powers united in a mission of hope german chancellor angela merkel invited representatives of more than 10 countries to press for a solution to the long running conflict in libya it was only a few hours before they announced a breakthrough no more arms shipments to the war torn country. whom we can confirm that we have all agreed to respect the arms of. these and we'll also monitor it more closely than we have in the past.
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if. however they haven't gets built up consequences for breaking the embargo instead the conference pledged not to offer military support to the warring parties much is its stake for the international players here libya has oil and gas and is a key transit point for refugees there are 2 parties facing each other on the one signed is internationally recognized government leader sauron who now only controls a few regions near the capital of tripoli on the other side is self-proclaimed general how he controls large areas of the country the un oh germany and other western countries as well as tricky stand behind surat. allies are russia egypt and the united arab emirates the rival leaders themselves refused to sit down at the bargaining table libyan premier fire has also raj met with his ally turkish
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president rich of tie affair to one while warlords. join talks with france's and manuel mccrone among others the conference insisted that a new political process is necessary to address the country's crisis. and today. but leading member states along with regional and international denies ations if sent a strong signal that we are fully committed to supporting a peaceful resolution of the libyan crisis the real marker of the conference is success or failure come until it's clear of the promises made here are being kept and that could take several weeks. if more of this we want to bring in our chief political correspondent melinda creme melinda's good to see you so 1st things 1st does the german government view the results from this conference yesterday as a success well the chancellor was the 1st one to do some expectation management she
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said that this is a small step and she also said she herself is harboring no illusions about how quickly a peaceful outcome can be achieved that said the conference did do at least 2 things that count 1st one is it brought all of the interested parties to the table and got them to agree to respect the u.n. arms embargo that's actually been in place for quite some time now that counts because this is a proxy war and there are many international players involved from russia and turkey to the united arab emirates italy france and they are providing an ongoing constant supply of arms and material support that keeps this conflict alive so getting all of them seated at one table and agreeing on where to go from here agreeing on that u.n. arms embargo that is the very basic 1st step for a change 2nd thing it did it set up something that could become
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a message mechanism for to for essentially transforming a very fragile cease fire into a long running truce and that is a military commission that will be include 5 members of each of the 2 warring parties 10 all together and they are supposed to come up with steps toward a truce now clearly the chancellor is banking on the idea that both of these things . will set a day now mic in motion that could eventually reinvigorate a political process and who knows perhaps will be proven right i mean this is definitely an achievement and i'm wondering is this policy here or is it personality i mean are we looking at a new role for germany you know as a peace broker as a mediator or did what we just see was it a one off for america's ability to network in. i think it's both both things count but the fact is that german leaders and by no means only the chancellor have been saying for a almost 5 years now that germany can and must take
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a stronger international role now why are they doing that well for one thing because they've been under a lot of pressure including from the u.s. and not only from donald trump also from his predecessor barack obama to contribute much more strongly for example to nato and the fact is military engagement is always a challenge for germany because of its history during world war 2 but there is real consensus here that the country needs to take a stronger diplomatic role and it's been doing that for example these a v the conflict in eastern ukraine through the minsk process as it's called and libya is in the natural 2nd place to try to take that kind of a role 2 reasons one libya if it remains unstable or becomes more so will become the gateway for vastly increased flows of refugees and migrants and the german foreign minister said we have to prevent libya from becoming the next syria
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secondly germany has some real political capital in libya because it didn't take part in the regime change in 2011 i guess that toppled khadafi so for that reason this is a real chance for germany to try to exercise its influence and i think we've seen the. all sides really do see it here as a trustworthy broker very briefly iran can we play anything we saw here with these libyan talks to the talks to save the iran nuclear deal well certainly germany has been partnering with the u.k. and france to do exactly that to stay with the diplomatic process now it says it's going to invoke the dispute resolution mechanism of the iran nuclear agreement that could eventually lead to sanctions but actually the 3 are doing this because they want to save the agreement and by invoking that process and get they get iran to the table theoretically the u.s.
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could even come back to the table on that on that point i think the thing that we're seeing here is that it's not germany alone germany can only be effective internationally if it's acting within the context of the e.u. with its partners and or the united nations and that is i think what the germans are aiming to do but it's slow steps for now are the chief political correspondent bickering that is always think you. would do the europeans want to be independent or be bullied by donald trump that was the question posed today by iran is it threatened to move closer to exiting the nuclear deal now that is just one of the nightmare scenarios involving iran for pakistan in an exclusive interview with w.'s editor in chief pakistani prime minister iran khan warns that a military conflict between iran and u.s. backed saudi arabia would also be
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a disaster for his country. in the wide ranging interview with d w editor in chief enos poll can spelled out his position on 2 places currently experiencing significant turmoil pakistan's neighbor iran is vying for influence in the gulf with saudi arabia tensions between the 2 have been simmering for years the assassination of the top iranian commander cassim saw the money this month by the us brought the region to the brink of conflict conses pakistan would be caught between the $2.00 countries if iran in saudi arabia went to war. we live in a tough neighborhood we have issues balancing act because. we have for instance saudi arabia which is one of pakistan's greatest friends always been a friend in need for us and then we have iran which is a neighbor and we have always had good relationship with iran so the conflict
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between saudi arabia and iran is something which. which for for pakistan would be disastrous if it if it went into some sort of military conflict. khan also spoke about pakistan's relations with india which of worsened over the past year because of the himalayan region of kashmir kashmir is claimed by both countries and has a muslim majority population both pakistan and india control large parts of the region islam about in delhi have gone to war of kashmir twice in the past last year india revoked the autonomous stars of the party it controls it should turn communications ramped up security and imposed curfews critics say the goal was to suppress the areas separatist movement india said it was securing its territorial integrity. both parts of kashmir to hold a referendum on their future let them decide what they want to do budgets that is
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all ready to give them the right of through a referendum or a plebiscite let them decide whether they want to remain with the buggiest on whether they want to be independent we're all for it. and kashmir 2 potential flashpoints that looks set to overshadow pakistan and so their nature in the coming months. are you sorry there now she's with me here in the studio our editor in chief just poke freshly back from pakistan where she conducted that interview with the pakistani prime minister it is good to see you don't even hear you know even that jet lag. we just heard khan talking about having i guess it did to carry out a balancing act between saudi arabia and iran now that is a nice idea yes but did he go into details i mean can he can he walk the talk. it's crucial for him obviously right he's talking very candidly about this in the interview that it's a big threat. deep a conflict between saudi arabia and iran would be
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a catastrophe not only for pakistan for the whole region and so it's as you said he tries to balance. act or the egg but it is very hard. because in the one hand like 20 percent or so focused on is living in pakistan who support around 20 percent of a country with 210000000 people it's that 45 something 1000000 people this is the one side the other side who really depends on saudi arabia and when it comes to military conflict you rather stay with. saudi arabia than it's iran so he tries to balance the conflict but no he didn't offer any deeper into it i mean what about the geography i mean it pakistan is in a tough neighborhood we know that it's got afghanistan as a as you know a problematic neighbor of the what kind of role does concept for his country in that region throughout he wants peace as peaceful as possible
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and you know that pakistan is pretty close bonds to the taliban so he wants the taliban to be a played a role bigger role therefore he held the u.s. conducting the so-called peace talks with the taliban having in his head or in his mind of the taliban have some pollard that would be good for him and you could you feel like he was when he is legitimate the. open up about that the taliban or people we can do business with and trust i mean sure. he wanted to step back a little bit and i asked him directly so how close are you with the taliban and i don't want to get out of this and said well we did all a deal with the americans but i mean i think this is pretty obviously and he wouldn't deny that he still has close bonds to the taliban or the kashmir i mean do you think that pakistan would really let kashmir go it's a referendum that you know that people basically want to be independent he offered that in this interview i was quite surprised by that is that he would not 1st of
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all it's really not his call it's the call of the military that is absolutely clear now doug has said in the military would never agree to that why because that's kind of the reason why they exist that's why they get so much money. so nice try i would say it's politics talk but it's not really a political action and what did you say about working with india's government i mean you know that's the big the big elephant in the room there relations between these 2 countries you know they are anything but easy and he was talking very critical about prime minister modi and his policy he actually compared the policy even to the non-si regime so it was really dense there. but you also have to be honest the indians prime minister motives also talking really not nicely of pakistan honestly and i talked also to many many experts and people on the ground is little hope that india and pakistan will find a peaceful commitment to work with each other that is said because pakistan is such
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a beautiful country you know there's such a potential for tourism the same in this it's everybody in this whole region so but regarding that topic i came home not with a lot of hope in my luggage you get about 30 seconds of the b.s.u. the human rights situation in pakistan controlled kashmir diddy's anything about well he said the pakistani politician is doing much better but we all know that for example there are no demonstrations allowed so freedom of speech is not happening this well so a lot of things to do you know in this poll as always we appreciate you coming in and sharing the interview with us good to see you great being with you thank you you can watch the full interview with pakistan's prime minister in wrong on online dot com. the world's business and policy elites are gathering this week at the world economic forum in
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switzerland and there are shocking numbers about gender inequality the charity oxfam says that the world's billionaires have more wealth than the poorest 4 and to have 1000000000 people combined a chasm between and have nots and it is women often than men pay the price. it doesn't pay much but this is how ect helps to support $4.00 with siblings and to mother like many 21 year olds she has big plans. to take to has already finished a course in sewing technology and she's been attending training sessions with this youth and employability service to help her get a better paid job. and that was that i am determined to work i've had a very difficult life i've had problems with my family and other problems too but
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i've never accepted defeat i want to help my siblings build their careers if i get a good job my mother doesn't need to work as a maid and other people's homes anymore i know i will succeed. many more women across india are pursuing further education but less than a quarter of those eligible to what have jobs or are even seeking employment concerns about safety and transport some of the reasons why families as well as employers don't want women working men is easy for one thing bosses don't have to worry about them getting home before it's dark that's been a problem pinky kemarre has faced she travels nearly 2 hours from have village just to get to work and sometimes she has to leave early in order to get home while it's still light but she's already broken it to prove by becoming the 1st woman in her
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family to have an office job even if she had to fight to get it so i've struggled a lot i wasn't allowed to work i had problems with the family but i feel very good about my 1st job i'm learning a lot i'm enjoying it having. many women like pinky also struggle to walk. or she's got them from wonder woman tries to work the family stops or they don't let her progress so they think she'll go out she could do anything don't let her out she'll dishonor us they don't trust her. it's nothing to worry about their safety when they go places will be returned safely will someone harass them on the way will they be in danger we have to worry about all these things. so many barriers for women including ekta but still they persevere. your resilience and perseverance in joining me now from toronto is allison holder she is the director of advocacy organization equal measures 2030 it
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focuses on gender issues or why else is going to have on the show these numbers are staggering we just saw in that report there are 2 women who are bucking the trend to me and it's to women if you will against all odds i mean what has to change to stop this growing inequality huge inequality for women around the world. yeah great thanks for having me well what i think are really interesting is we looked at 2 women from india but what equal measures 2030 found we released an index back in june and we found that no country has reached gender equality and so this problem of the burden of unpaid or low paid care work is something that we should all recognize from every single one of our countries women are propping up families they're propping up companies and they're propping up countries and i think that's something really profound to reflect every country struggles and what we found is that every country even those that we would think of as being gender
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equal so even including germany for example have more to do getting women into power getting women into those top tech and science research jobs ensuring women's health all of those things are challenges every country faces and we see that when it comes to women's unpaid care but in your report says 40 percent of the world's women live in countries that have sailed in gender equality and what does that mean with the that these countries have sailed. so we've assessed on $129.00 countries around the world at all different levels of gender equality and we found that if huge number of countries including those that inhabit 40 percent of women and girls inhabit are failing on gender equality we measured a huge range of issues health education violence climate change and countries all have more to do we found particularly countries that are facing conflict and fragility have a lot more to do on gender equality and we found similarly that the richest
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countries have more to do and i think when we look at the oxfam report and the fact that women are pushed into the lowest paid jobs women are consigned to the sectors that are least valued that is underlying gender discrimination behind that and that's what our index showed. you know this week the world's public policy elites are meeting in davos switzerland for the world economic forum if you could meet with the top level they are and they could grant your wish what would be the 1st thing on your list for them to do to improve the situation. so with that question i want them to think differently about care work so we think of care work as being a cost and we can't afford it we can't invest in social care because we have to construct bridges and buildings but in fact research shows that actually if you spent 2 percent of g.d.p. on the care sector you create twice as many jobs as you would in construction that is a crucial thing for both the governments and the private sector in davos to consider
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this year think of care as an investment and investment in decent jobs particularly for women i also like them to tomorrow commit to bring in place quotas to get women in positions of power because we know when they are that they're more likely to legislate and come up with policies that solve these kind of problems and i want them to talk to women get women's organizations around the table they know the problems that the women on the frontlines are most facing and it's just hard to imagine that the lawmakers and policy makers are not aware of this i mean wherever you go around the world you have the same thing people are living longer the role of care takers is growing and most of the characters in the world are women and they're not being paid or they get low pay for that i mean this is a huge problem that's getting bigger by the day well just look at the way we count whether our countries are succeeding or failing we can't g.d.p. do we take into account that unpaid care work the thing that makes everything else work that keeps people healthy that gets them educated that makes the whole system function but we don't even count it and so i think there's
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a very basic starting point which is let's get the data so we know how much they care work women are doing and the burden they think they face and it's a great start to see this but we don't have that data across the board for both countries and we need it and then let's get people not talking about care as a cost or a drain or a negative aspect but in a real investment in making people happier and healthier and in creating decent well paid jobs yeah good advice maybe a recalibration of some moral compass is would help as well allison holder of equal measures 2030 allison we appreciate your time tonight thank you thanks for having me. well the day is almost done but the conversation it continues online you'll find us on twitter either at d.w. news or you can follow me a golf t.v. and don't forget to include the hash tag for the day when you're watching me and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see the never bought.
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an exclusive interview on con sciacca stance prime minister speak. with d.w. editor in chief events pulled it that's what's khan's perspective on the kashmir crisis and what does he hope results from the peace negotiations are going to get a stand why has he remained silent about the plight of the we curse in china and what our interview with iran contra. and 30 minutes on d w was to. the highway to heaven. after decades of negotiations
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the new path to peace between india and pakistan has been open. d.w. a company in india who sees a pilgrimage it was his 1st time in the land of his forefathers between india and pakistan deceived on that. close up equal 90 minutes on d w. can i am better can. stick closest names to helms used in the. evening in more than few. nations and he didn't want a new. i wanted our story nikos a. must. is what starts january 27th on d w. this
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