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it's finally out of the european union trade hall it is just waiting to leave the e.u. i'm to get my ass in london and i'm. in brussels join us as we read travel the long and bumpy road that. just today she thinks. leave all remain deceptively simple choice for u.k. voters but a choice with complex repercussions of the bitter and divisive campaigns decision day came on june 23rd 2016 polling showed the results would be close but tipped a narrow win for remain how wrong these polls turn out to be from a d.-w. studio in berlin my colleagues brant gulf and christopher spring day and all life protocols of the food that rule the e.u. sadly christopher has since passed away this is how we remember him and the
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historic night more than 46000000 people in the united kingdom have been asked a simple question do you want your country to remain in the european union calling in a few hours time will know the answer remain is leading but of course you know at the moment we still have every have to take everything with a pinch of salt it seemed almost like we had a little sigh of relief from the commission and i thought i could hear it over here earlier today when those 1st opinion polls came over and i actually compliment. any referendum where there was a yes or no question that will deliver so little clarity about what happens the next day is this one about it we've got some results coming to christopher well that's a victory for the leave camp just over 60 percent voting to leave the european union just under 40 percent voting to remain we expected that but that is the 1st victory for the leave camp so those 2 northern cities. so far have been much more
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solid for believe can believe him than anyone had expected we feel that we have on course but we feel that he's very much on a knife i'd say we were to be surprise and if the numbers are wrong and there is a brags that the euro skeptic genie is out of the bottle and it will now not be put back i think that many of the populist activists don't care you know even if it's a messy breck said they don't care just imagine what if your family were divided on this here's one voter saying the referendum is split the household so much that my dad is sleeping on the sofa we now have 64 voting areas who have declared in the trend seems to be moving back towards the remain campaign so i'm not quite sure that the people who really said they would go to sleep are or really went to sleep at the moment this is such a nail biter when we get to the finishing line which ever saw my crosses that line it'll be only a very small margin you can see up here on the wall it looks as though the leave
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camp is beginning to pull ahead so far what we're seeing is a shock it is a shock yes and i think what's happened is that david cameron is completely official he thought cable could hold this referendum because what will walk it will be easy will be able to convince britain to stay in and it's backfired very badly at that since it's now getting frightening i think we're coming up on about 21 minutes after 5 o'clock in the morning for does germany and the rest of europe wake up sid. well i guess very soon to a prime minister called boris johnson and then the u.s. president might be done in a tram and then you think you're in a nightmare. that's ready to go down you know it is during. the broadcasters now the b.b.c. and i.t.v. now are both declaring a win for the leave camp in this referendum and again just wanted to repeat that
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the b.b.c. is now forecasting the u.k. has voted to leave the european union david cameron is he going to wake up and have to resign. well i just went to bed frankly that's even worse than resigning and then suddenly he's been the leader of the remain campaign and if leaf wins he has to leave the uncertainty is continuing to grow and that is playing out 1st and foremost on markets always today seen the biggest intraday moves of the pound against the dollar in history it's quite is story day and it's only just started how do you see the day developing in brussels which is of course is also waking up to this news and certainly not going to be a calm day here in brussels either i mean this is. a colossal earthquake this is a this is a decision is going to affect everybody in the u.k.
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for years and years to come a result that most of us frankly did not see coming the united kingdom has voted to leave the european union that's the outcome of the referendum held on thursday. this sudden reality of bragg's that was acutely fails you know the knowledge that threatens to undermine the peace process the prospect of a holiday i wish i had many feeling every tell you the sectarian strife of the past . the memories never fade memories of the troubles in northern ireland. mcroy witnessed the 993 shankill road bombing which claimed 10 lives. it was one of the most devastating attacks perpetrated by the iranian the years of the northern ireland conflict. 25 years on that memory is still in people's remain the
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hurt and the loss of people who have lost loved ones just builder. the former member of the ira alex maskey is an honorary speaker at this memorial event for fallen irate fighters. he has turned his back on the ira a politician who belongs to sion fame a party dedicated to the reunification of violent he supports peace building work and flatow rejects the prospect of an irish border as a result of breaks that. we see as an attack on the peace process we certainly see it at the prospect of undermining the peace process and our house made the presence of trying to reestablish our institutions here all the more difficult so people here of are angry about drugs and they will not take a break that sitting on a. hard border is a red flag for many here. for a great needs to be our little respect that that takes away the hard part of what
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that people felt as if they were part of the island part of all our land tipped out away from us and then things on every television for all the years has been about the top but i'm not comfortable being an alpha mcroy in this protestant friends want to remain in the united kingdom and don't want the special status for northern ireland that the e.u. is backing. mcroy desperately hopes that northern irish peace will not be undermined by brags that for now it seems all too likely the conflict will return to the region. at the height of the so-called troubles the irish border was dotted with roadblocks watchtowers and checkpoints today it's an all but invisible from tear and people on both sides could cross it freely we met one of many people who wanted to stay that way. she takes the freedom of movement in the literally a leg stunning
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a fine arts graduate from northern ireland has run the length of the irish border 360 kilometers in 7 days. for me as an artist and as a runner and as a young person there's something to be said for the fact that i can just i could do this and over the course of a week i can go on this crazy run you know it's something of crazy travel but i'm free to enter and exit different countries. stomach is originally from poland and has been living in northern ireland since she was 11 her aim is to highlight the invisible border separating northern ireland in the u.k. and the republic of ireland her partner hopes that the return of border checkpoints can be avoided. the way in which that border on us. means there's divisions halfway through a road or through a favor it's not a traditional border in terms of rivers and things like that makes it extremely difficult if a hard border was to come into place on the run alex has been crossing the border
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numerous times and without any difficulty it's a completely open border and mostly they're not even signs that tell you that you're crossing an actual border from the republic of ireland over here to northern ireland in the u.k. northern ireland voted against bracks it with 56 percent of the population in opposition alex now hopes that more people will follow her footsteps and make their voices heard. they want to know more about northern ireland i'm joined by quentin senior fellow at the think tank chatham house on european affairs thanks for coming quentin say no law and was a major roadblock for 2 reason may and how withdrawal agreement is it all solved now on the bus johnson no i don't think it is i don't think it's over the toll it's been fun the big changes that boris johnson has agreed in effect to have some sort of border in the middle of the irish sea that infuriated the irish the
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northern irish unionists and really he lost their votes but he no longer needs votes and he's pushed it through the trouble is i think that it's not just the unionists in northern ireland who mistrust the whole deal it's also on the other side of the channel i was talking to somebody from paris yesterday and they were saying well when i was a talk show that the brits won't try and smuggle stuff into the european union through all the nile and we're going to check everything that comes from that island and some say actually it's an opportunity for another island that it gets effectively the best of both worlds would you say to that well it was always the case that if northern ireland could remain both inside the european single market and inside the u.k. single market it would be a fan. stick opportunity and that may well be said i think the danger is that actually this whole fudge has reignited the debate in northern
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ireland about irish unification and that's the destabilizing factor this is not just about economics this is about the political world and if there is a big surge in anti brics it feeling on the nationalist side in northern ireland and not a lot of support for bret's it's on the unionists side we may see northern ireland coming to have a some sort of referendum or decision on reunification of our land and some people might be prepared to actually fight for that do you see that it would reignite may maybe any sectarian strife and all them all and nobody wants to go back to the slimness of the 30 years of terrorism that we saw in all the knowledge at least no ordinary people want to there is a small minority that might but i think the danger of this whole process is that those people who pushed bricks it through never thought through the consequences and it's not just northern ireland it's also scotland to night the scots vote for
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scottish independence i think that the coherence of the entire united kingdom is called into question by this breaks it process quentin peel thank you very much ok thank you. one of the main battles for bret's that was fought off shore. quotas has long been a sore point in the u.k. with leavers and bowing to take back control of britain's waters so has the fishing industry on both sides been left at sea. for hundreds of years paul joyce family has set out on the north sea to catch fish. there one of the few remaining families a fisherman in hastings in southern england my brother is fishing and cousins are fishing. but for my family this looks like the last generation. saved
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is just not viable for them to fish. but that's not because of depleted north sea fish stocks. in fact stocks have recovered ses joy instead the problem is that british fishermen face a limit on how much fish they're allowed to catch with fish in british waters which was british territorial waters and have to fro back fish because counterparts a european fisherman they do not they do not have to from. that's why nearly all british fishermen voted for breaks it they want to regain control over their own waters and decide how much to fish they also want to banish the european fisherman from british waters like this dutch vessel dutch captain get a bit senior spends 80 percent of the year pushing exclusively british parts of general see if i can no longer fish there i'll have to find other areas i'd have to
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compete with my dodge colleagues and share a tiny fishing area why fish never. breaks it puts about 50 percent of the dutch fishing fleet in peril. he represents the dutch fishing industry he thinks this is unnecessary because strict e.u. regulations now ensure there's enough. the rule mr thinks the british government is a real problem for distributing only a tiny fraction of its e.u. fishing quota to british small scale fisherman in the english channel. they have blamed you for the internal problems the smaller boats have no quota that is a problem look that's not a problem created by brussels that's a problem created by. after 8 hours at sea paul joy small fishing boat returns to hastings. once back on land the days entire catch is sold to europe of all places and that's the problem britain's fishermen export the fish they caught and import their favorite fish caught which is
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a classic main ingredient in fish and chips but joyce worried that the price of free trade in fish would be high europe is likely to demand precisely what he and other breaks of his wanted control over british waters. as a full member of the e.u. single market britain joined the free movement of goods to and from europe but with threats it can be almost as warnings predictions of lonely lays at ports and even shortages of food. that had some people preparing for a customs gridlock. kissling who moved to britain from germany takes advantage of every sale and special offer he can find he lives in milton keynes north west of london and he's afraid price rises and shortages will be rampant post it. kissling is a prep someone who prepared. to
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go to the people who got money don't care they can afford everything. you can always get anything for money. but the rest of us will suffer. preppers are afraid nothing will work properly including customs processing at the ports of dover the islands busiest harbor. currently it takes a minute and a half to get a lorry through but once britain's out of the e.u. it'll take about 4 minutes they're projecting 5 mile tailbacks within 24 hours and within the 1st week the traffic jam will reach london. at the weekly market in milton keynes. expects there will be less products. but he seems to be one of the few people here who worry about it. people will be foolish and they will start stockpiling that may cause
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a problem but i think it's something necessary saying we've got to get on and do it now we've got to claim back. we can be ruled by brussels anymore. michaud kissling isn't leaving anything up to chance. i must say here montreal what i've got on my shelves here are to last 2 months in parts one. in my have got enough in my freezer to get me through another 3 months of on sunday so that's no problem. michelle questioning things anyone who isn't taking precautions is naive he's even got a plan b. worked out if the worst comes to the worst he can always return to germany after almost 30 years in prison. now for more on the future relationship between the u.k. and the european union i'm joined by a leading expert when it comes to breaks it member of the european parliament and member of the so-called steering group where do you think other greatest challenges in forming this new relationship 1st of all it's the most important thing is the
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future and then i think we are absolutely clear today that we see that that the u.k. will to stay there the most important partner for the closest for the european union so we will have to have a good economic partnership where f.d.a. will be the basis and where so-called level playing field which is all the measures which ensure of for all of us that the competition is on equal footing this will be icing the most challenging the most important and the 2nd issue will be security both internal and external are there concessions where you would say you should not make in these in these negotiations for free trade agreement i think this negotiations are not at all about concessions it's about really finding the proper balance between the rights and obligations and we are very clear the u.k. also knows how good a peon union functions you can also knows that to enter the market to which they now export more than 44 percent of their exports goes comes here they know that
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they have to respect norms and standards of the rules which are typical for the european single market so you're optimistic that there will be a close close relationship i think we act. surely we should have other choices in force both both for you kate said an important issue and for us it's an important issue so i still hope that this will be an unprecedented close relationship based on a good free trade agreement and fortunately we also know that the british prime minister would like to reduce it to the so-called barebone free trade agreement we don't have much time we just will have 8 months for the negotiations so it's going to be extremely challenging steamy difficult but we really should understand that it's important for our businesses for our citizens now you're a member of parliament from poland and poland has vested interests in a close relationship other member states less so how concerned are you about the unity of the e.u. in those negotiations no i would disagree with you because they simply comic
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interest a much stronger here in this part of europe or france for germany even for benelux countries to markets to the car industry for example for poland with measures the citizens to do ation for citizens but also for example officially we don't officially don't catch in the british waters but we have the capacity to proceed process all the fish which is being caught in the british waters so we are interested as what everybody is single member states some more some less for us relations matters in different areas so i hope that the unity of member states will be kept for these very difficult challenging negotiations with your brother you very much. e.u. citizens are free to live anywhere they want in the dark and more than $3000000.00 non brits decided to settle in the united kingdom the bread said they would use the collective over their future in the country and their rights we spoke to
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a polish national about that sounds. like you must but i thought it was a tribute on some bottles or but they're certainly going to die for us and as well the idea of your opinion you know was that you can move from one city to another that would be from country to country like you moving in just you know your your country internally and suddenly someone to sort of we don't like you you have to go by my limits when these 3 have skied i came to you kerry in 2006 and i do run accountancy firm and company in middle and. after the break one of the on the 1st week we lost many clients because they actually panicked they called on the company came back to poland and they feel no need for a roof welcome do you feel unsafe as a business. this is not that why you would choose to go back if i'm already here i live and yes i've been paying for all the time my tax
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in here why i cannot stage. a lot of guys saying they still feel. this underlying current of animosity. and they no longer feel that they have a future here the only thing that british government can always end up and say ok we've got the freemium back ripping in union city isn't it that we need to gain a new kerry if you do not accept something like we can keep them out. and you know we feel like like a like a bargaining chip for. for the negotiation it's very slow but it's pretty. good most of a nice feeling either for x. but brits living in europe or in germany the young son triggered a flood of applications for drum and citizenship in a race to beat the brits a deadline. elizabeth wood it's back to her school time studying
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habits a british national she's learning about the german constitution for her upcoming german citizenship test she's determined to keep the e.u. rights that allowed her to move to berlin on a whim 8 years ago. i'm just trying to do all i can and should the bust happen so i'm trying to apply for a german passport as well is it going to keep my push possible. elizabeth good as one of over 100000 brits living in germany. they now face a 3 month waiting list if they want to apply for german citizenship here. if applicants meet the requirements at the moment they can still get a german passport and keep their british one but when britain leaves the e.u. things could get more complicated they may have to give up one to get the other. in these uncertain times britons abroad can find comfort at broken english dale carr opened the berlin food and gift store over 20 years ago and she has all the british
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favorites now after 38 years of living in berlin britain's decision to leave the e.u. has pushed dale carr to apply for german citizenship and i feel so sorry that you know people like me you could change drink nice to lager black currents in a pub in leicester make a decision to just go to berlin why not national going to like attending more and that's a shame. but not every brit has been in germany long enough to apply for citizenship and gain peace of mind for them the advice is clear. so they were just some of the stops on the rights of bragg's it but of course the journey carries on so as brought so then long begin to forge a new relationship for the u.k. we say doesn't all of what see you later but definitely not to part. more room. with.
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