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saying they cannot do their job because the u.s. president is getting in the way they say this is a 5 alarm fire for us democracy and these 2 men they are now the front runner firefighters democratic presidential candidate bertie sanders and pete after yesterday's new hampshire primary both are neck and neck value to defeat donald trump the president accused now of political arson i'm burnt off in berlin this is the day. and i'm voting for bernie at pictures of me and if you submit to the job i admired senator sanders when i was a high school student this victory. is the beginning of the end for donald trump were 2 states in with $55.00 states and territories to go
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99.9 percent. that's the percentage of rough bird voters brooke not yet had chance to vote i love america i mean. and i will feed donald trump in a no remand word as far as. our votes count through. also coming up they were stripped of their german citizenship when they fled the nazis their grandchildren are trying now to reclaim what was lost troy and he told me that it was he had left her alone terribly it was appalling to hear something like that it was yes. we were angry but yes we knew that they are fighting for our right cause it just. went to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with american justice by the book american justice by donald trump the events in
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washington d.c. in the past 24 hours have suddenly left the independence of the u.s. justice system in del for us prosecutors have resigned accusing donald trump of undercutting their authority they say that convicted ally roger stone should go to prison for up to 9 years for lying to congress yesterday that recommendation was reduced after trump posted a tweet. calling the recommendation horrible and unfair now this came as voters in the state of new hampshire gave democratic candidate bernie sanders a win in that state's presidential primary he and former mayor. are now front runners in their party's contests to determine who will oppose donald trump in november selection a poll released yesterday showed that more than 80 percent of new hampshire voters say that they were motivated to cast their ballot out of anger over president wrong
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. the 1st clear win in the democratic party's nomination fight and new hampshire chose fairmont senator bernie sanders. and let me say it's a night. that this victory here is the beginning of the end but donald. sanders betov a strong challenge from p.p. to be triumphed in iowa caucus he congratulated sanders and called for unity. so many of you turned out die hard democrats independents unwilling to stay on the side on the sidelines and even some newly former republicans and we can't defeat the most divisive president in modern american history by tearing down anybody who doesn't agree with us 100 percent of the time. president trying to twist here to slam the democratic candidates describing sanders as crazy berni and mocking
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prestigious star name in this primary amy club a trial was a surprise 3rd place with elizabeth warren and forward of the former vice president joe biden and say he is adamant that the race for the nomination has barely started so i think. we just heard from the 1st 2 of the states. all right come from us the opening bell. not the closing bell. the fly and dollars from president is just big. victories behind those popular vote in iowa we're in the victory for night we're going to nevada we're going to south carolina we're going to windows started was the democratic contest is shaping up to be a battle between betty sanders and pete you say created by for decades and clashing
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political ideologies but united in one shared goal post president trump was. for more on this political firestorm in new hampshire and in washington d.c. i'm joined here at the big table by us political analyst and bosch fellow rachel reza rachael's good to have you back on the show let's talk about bernie sanders and the digits after iowa and new hampshire we've got these 2 men neck and neck they're separated by age in the geography where they come from on the u.s. map and the geography of their position on the west of the political spectrum if you will how do you explain this dual wing dichotomy that we've got going on right now well i think it goes to show that the democratic party is not ready to coalesce behind one candidate and the fact that bernie sanders and pete but a judge are the 2 leading contenders so that there really is a divide within the democratic party right now some that are on the lean to the
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left and there on the far left really want someone like a bernie sanders or an elizabeth warren an office some on the other side would like to see someone more like an a.v. club ashara biotin more people to judge the question is you know one of those people is going to end up being the nominee and well the other side come out and vote for that candidate that might be on the opposite side is them we're not sure about that yet you know when you did not mention there is the former u.s. vice president joe biden now he came in 5th place in. new hampshire almost as bad as he did in iowa he was already campaigning yesterday in south carolina so he left him sure i mean he seems convinced that the african-american vote is going to change his fortunes is well we're not sure about that i mean there's no denying the fact that he did not have a good night in iowa and he had an even worse night in new hampshire but it's also true that those populations in both of those states are not necessarily representative of the larger population of the of the united states so i think we
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really do have to see what happens in south carolina we also have to see what happens in nevada which has a large population of latino voters and if biden can really come out ahead in those 2 states and on super tuesday then there might still be a chance there but if he continues coming in 4th and 5th then we're really going to have he's really can have a problem and especially for someone like vice president biden former vice president biden who's been running on a platform of electability who can beat trump this doesn't really bode well for that message does not elizabeth warren today she called for u.s. attorney general william bore to resign and it comes after the result is for u.s. prosecutors resigned yesterday to talk to me about how serious this is for the u.s. justice system i mean i think it's just a continuation of. the pretty much disaster that has been the trump presidency i mean we've seen
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a miscarriage of justice over and over again this president has really taken taken this office and and used it to his own advantage and what happened yesterday just goes to show that he can he literally can move the democratic system with a single tweet right and i think that's problematic for the united states i think that's problematic for democracy in general and that really sends a bad message to allies and partners across the globe as well you know he survived the impeachment trial. he appears to be seeking revenge and even trying to reshape the rule of law and he seems to think that he can do it with impunity well and the question is can he i mean so far it seems as though that might be the case and we just saw last week he removed lieutenant colonel van men from his position at the national security council saying his services are an urn are no longer needed and the military can take care of him that sounds sort of like unveiled threat to me and to many people in the national security community the question is what's going
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to happen between now and the election you know what other issues are going to pop up how how is trump going to maybe react to those who you know were against him in the impeachment trial are there other more moves like this coming we don't know but we do know that this doesn't really bode well for the u.s. justice system how do you see this. the. for the white tells if you've got a president who appears to be going. sure i mean i think this is going to be a big topic especially for the nominee i mean i think the impeachment trial is going to be a topic of discussion from now until november even though it's already over whoever i think the democratic candidate will be is going to talk about president trump they're going to talk about you know a return to normalcy or you know in case of you know sanders or warren they're going to talk about you know we need a complete revamp of the united states political system and you know i'm going to
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bring it to the united states people but i think no matter what whoever you know ends up being the nominee this june they are going to run on a campaign of we need to get donald trump out of office for the betterment of the united states for the future of this country just a little bit as they said today of a warm sawyer absolutely is democracy which will result as always rich we appreciate your insights thank you thanks. when the coronavirus in china began one of the biggest fears among doctors and politicians around the world was simply what are the chinese not telling us they zings radical containment plan including a lot of major cities with millions and millions of people all of them has been praised by the world health organization but china's efforts to silence any and all criticism well those efforts have also moved at a feverish pace since years have been
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a racing on favorable content on social media and their cranky independent reporting at least 2 outspoken journalists have disappeared these images the chinese government doesn't want you to see a medical center in the epicenter of the corona virus outbreak under stress short on supplies overwhelmed with patients the video is from. a lawyer by training who made the risky choice to become a citizen journalist and defy government efforts to control information. in front of be is the virus and behind me is the legal and administrative power of china as long as i live in the city i will continue to report i only report what i see what i hear. you what i'm not even scared of death you think i'm afraid of the communist party now chen is gone he disappeared last week and has not responded to messages so far authorities will only say he's under control amnesty
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international reports he's been forcibly quarantined he's not the only one to pay the price for defying state authority the blogger thing bin took this video from a hospital and it seems to show bodybags victims of the virus. then he received a menacing knock on his door what did you want to know. what do you intend song when you. do you will know you'll be you know what do you want. you do you know this and other that will have a lot easier like the other night that. you would you go 5 you to hell if you don't have a view about. the. email times in the crew that will you know when it's. fung had been posting videos daily proof that he was free those upload stops on monday and he's been on reachable by phone fueling speculation of arrest this political
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culture of control may have contributed to the outbreak in the 1st place and when laying a doctor and warned of the virus in december authorities accused him and several others of severely disturbing the social order now he's dead one of the more than 1000 people in china to succumb to corona virus mourning in anger have marked his passing online and off in defiance of the state's threats pressure is mounting on chinese authorities to come clean on what's happening and will. and that includes wanting to know what's happened to people like she and fang been before more now i'm joined by sarah cook she is senior research analyst for china at freedom house series good to have you on the show you know china has been saying that it's been completely open about the extent of this al break about its attempts to control it it also says that anyone who tries to cover up the extent of the outbreak will be punished where's the truth here. well i think the truth is mixed
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i think there certainly going to be some officials and we've seen some examples already of local officials in ohio on who may be punished for the initial cover up and find their careers and their perhaps worse but at the same time you absolutely do see a very real it tends to block information from unofficial sources from not only reaching chinese people but reaching the rest of the world and the detention of chen in finding this is the latest example but not the only ones the recent death of the doctor who 1st sounded the alarm about this virus just this week on this program a chinese researcher told me that the reaction to the news of his death could have turned into another tiananmen square in china do you agree with that assessment. i think it's tricky it's certainly seemed to be. a shift in the sense of the communist party's legitimacy coming into question on
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a massive scale i mean i think you know so many people are saying my reach out pete is just is just filled with comments about this stuff they're expressing support and hashtags like i want free speech and you know trending on seeing a wave on the micro blogging platform in china i think the real tricky thing is this question does that translate into you know mobilization on the streets does it translate into internal competitions for power because of the xi jinping and that's what we don't know i mean i think given the situation of the virus even if only for health reasons people may be reluctant to go to the streets but i think in terms of the sense that there's latent lack. limits on the coming presidency and that that starting that there are large numbers of people that's not only about a particular official or a particular issue but getting to systemic questions and systemic demands for change that is something we've seen not only unseen away bob but from professors
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writing open letters asking for provisions of the constitution that guarantee free speech to be implemented whether that will actually happen and they'll get there their request what we'll have to see but i think it in chipping away at the communist party for gentleness in xi jinping is personal and mysie and there is a real shift. and we were definitely watching to see how far that shift. sarah cook with freedom house joining us tonight with you know the politics surrounding this viral outbreak so thank you. they escaped the death camps of the nazis but they did not escape the nazis hateful policies thousands of people fled germany during the 12 years of germany's 3rd reich the punishment for that many were stripped of their citizenship on political racial or religious grounds were to redress those wrongs the country's post-war
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constitution promises former german citizens you see right here who and their descendants shall on application have their citizenship restored now despite that very clear language lots of applicants are rejected germany received about 4600 citizenship applications in 2018 of these in his surprise only about 1400 were approved so so most that's about 2 thirds were believe it or not rejected many applicants whose claims were rejected they believe that they didn't get a fair hearing well now a british lawyer is taking up their cause and he says the german government is violating the constitution. my sentiment was born in sao paolo brazil thousands of kilometers away from her ancestry in germany. my grandfather a left turn many fled actually in 1937 he was only 21 years old
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when he left and he fled to brazil this was thanks to his mother's foresight because she kind of knew that something was coming he was already not allowed to stay at university where he was studying at that time so in a way he wasn't anymore a full sits and under the nazi regime tens of thousands of jews were stripped of their rights and german citizenship now masala is fighting to get it back my brother and i felt very close to the german culture since a very young age was studied in a water school in brazil with german school and we always had this references from germany and european culture present in our houses article 116 of the german constitution enables germans persecuted by the nazis as well as the descendents to have their citizenship are stored but marcellas application was rejected on the
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grounds her grandfather left germany voluntarily. and he told me that it was he had left her alone terribly it was appalling to hear something like that it was yes so we were angry but yes we we knew that they are fighting for a right cause a just cause muscle as soon learned that she wasn't alone and joined forces with a lobby group exclusions group article 116 which helps hundreds of people who have been rejected. in january the group brought the debate to the bundestag felix coachmen and his wife isabelle founded the group in 2018 they want to see a new more general law to prevent exclusions from article 116 this time the motion was narrowly rejected the majority of pie. the mint believes that to decrease passed last august to ease restrictions are enough but some descendants are still
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excluded or facing bureaucratic hurdles. back in london felix coachmen isn't giving up. the decrees all discretionary. relief effectively but 116 is a fundamental basic right and people pretty well they can't get back their loved ones who they lost in many cases their property become get back jobs that they've lost but they can't get back one thing and that's german citizenship my seller has now applied a 2nd time. it's something that i have to do to honor the ones that are not here anymore and i think by germany allowing in acknowledging us as citizens this is only going to contribute to have a more fair just and a more diverse. germany in the future almost 3 years since applying again
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marcella is still waiting for of reply. so is my next guest here nick orton and he joins me now at the big table he is from the lobby group 116 which represents people hit by these current rules it's good to have you on the show that you're personally affected. by this what was your family's connection here to germany and the 3rd reich the nazis sure my grandma was born in berlin in 1023 as a german citizen 2 parents who were not religious in any way but were classified as jews by the nazi regime they fled for england in 136 and in 1039 the nazis published their names and it did not arise ation list stripping them of their german citizenship and since then my grandma remained in england married to british man in 1049 and i'm the only descendent who's actually moved back to germany ok so you've been back to germany and you. would you like to are you trying to reclaim
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the citizenship for yourself as well yeah i've been trying that for a while and how is that going well for me it's coming along slowly i mean we just sort of a bit about in that report is now the government is that the decrees which got rid of some of the exclusions there existing in in the legislation we already had one gap to those decrees they only apply for people who are living outside of germany. some members of my family went able to apply before wouldn't be able to be naturalized they can now my sister and my father actually applied in september and they picked up the naturalization certificate on friday but they don't leave they don't later live in germany you live in and you live in germany and i up till now have been able to apply there's been some new legally known binding instructions that came out around 2 weeks ago it's really up to the individual understand it whether they want to implement them elin is saying they will has and is saying they're not really sure other states are also unsure whether they're going to do it
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i mean it's almost like a jungle of red tape here that you're you're trying to get through or you know as i was telling you it's like a cost novel here how do you explain the fact that it's so complicated do something that should actually be rather simple. well i think some of the complications are the result of the kind of form of solution which the government chose the government chose to go for this decree solution they think that's the best way to do it fast to implement which is true they could implement almost immediately it's flexible they say as well but it was a has a number of drawbacks it doesn't actually have any legally binding effect for people who live in germany and the government also decided to exclude a number of groups from this decree people who were adopted before 977 and think looted and also the descendants of jews who were born and lived in germany before the nazis came to power without possessing the german citizenship they've also been excluded from it so why is the red tape. i think part of it's accidental right they
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thought the decree would come in most cases but sadly they can't use a decree to change the guidelines in germany and some of its purposeful purpose let me because the state is the willingness of the state to correct these wrongs as they are definitely but it seems like the bureaucrats are getting in the way of my understanding that correctly and i don't think the bureaucrats are getting in the way i think it's down to the matter of which legislation which solution the politicians actually opted to go for and they've gone from which they thought was the best possible solution but i think that the grounds on which they made that decision may be one of the most reliable they've kind of avoided speaking to the people who are actually affected by the problem especially politicians in the c.d.u. the maliciousness of the message haven't been open for discussions why do you argue that it's. i think that they think they've already solved the problem and don't really want to listen to arguments in the house an ok interesting point we've got 30 seconds here let me ask you about the in the in the role of breaks it here is this playing in to the motivation of people seeking german citizenship i think it's
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definitely playing with role motivating people who are coming from the u.k. i mean you see a huge increase in them about the case and that but i think the interior ministry yesterday said since the decrees have come into force the greatest number of people who are interested are actually from israel i would be quite surprised if it was the driving just to join people it's like in israel that i think is really the reason that we're talking about this issue it's created media interest but it didn't create the problem itself all right absolutely talking with you keep us up to date on your progress i think. well the day is always done the conversation is online and find us on twitter either you can follow me aboard off t.v. you can use the hash tag the date i remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see that among.
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