tech giant is american and when it comes to artificial intelligence china is the global leader but what about europe where today the european union revealed a blueprint for the future of its digital economy a continent attempting to reprogram itself and alter its high tech d.n.a. tonight going from a europe that regulates to a europe that creates i'm bored golf in berlin this is the day. to vision intelligence is about big data data data and they've gotten data we have to be very careful to understand how it is that the trigger that we created and what can we do with the technology is always new chalk it depends on what we make with it we have strengths when it comes to this specific knowledge and lots of industrial high quality. right now an enormous amount of precious type years of

potential innovations. untapped potential that we have to unleash is it your budget for industry or the tough stuff no. we remain but it. also coming up tonight us justice pardon me and him and him and him yesterday they were disgraced public figures behind bars today they're free and the newest footsoldiers declaring war on the system that put them behind bars i'm not trying to disrupt the will justice system that too often persecute imprison people. who over sentence people show rumors and. who are in positions that have no accountability we wouldn't really want. to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with the european high tech challenge how to be a referee and. our player at the same time today the european union and its plans

to boost its digital economy what does that mean making europe less reliant on the tech giants which are almost all u.s. companies that's what it means now it sounds ironic but in the run up to today's announcement the c.e.o.'s from facebook google and other u.s. tech giants they were in brussels meeting with e.u. leaders they reportedly discussed the future regulation and data privacy protection areas where europe in stark contrast to the u.s. and china is the standard bearer it takes john reman just 10 minutes to find a match in the database. the dutch police have been using facial recognition technology for 4 years and they say they can't do without it in this database of known criminals are 1300000 people with 2200000 pictures so every time you're

arrested for certain fact your picture is taken your fingerprints are taken and your personal details are taken and all these faces and up in these criminal database the system help them to arrest 100 people in the course of just one year despite the obvious advantages for police only half of e.u. countries are making use of some type of facial recognition technology france and germany for instance are already experimenting with real time surveillance but legal regulations across the e.u. are diverse the e.u. commission wants to open the debate and provide guidelines for all member states but their policy paper doesn't address the threat seriously enough according to patrick brier a green party member of the european parliament. i'm sad that the original idea of the commission to consider a moratorium on facial surveillance has just simply been removed because a lot of been the idea to put people's interests 1st and to evaluate technology

properly because before it is being used and employed on the mosque the dutch police on the other hand are satisfied with the results of their system and even plan to create it by the end of this year in some cases this is the only interest of kate that you will have only an image of a birth and nothing else and all these cases end up as cases that we can do in the investigation with to go further data protection laws must be considered and the guts police are convinced that a public debate is long overdue if the full potential of facial recognition is to be explored. more tonight i'm joined by your governor he is the co-founder and chair of the german association for artificial intelligence that is the organization that represents ai companies here in germany you're going to have you on the show before we talk about ai let's look at the entire european tech sector for a moment you today we heard a lot about the problems that europe has but the solutions that we heard they were

really in the minority how did you see. i think in europe we have a good history of research in and and getting value out of data unfortunately we were not able to make benefit out of it to bring these technologies into production as fast as the companies and especially the large companies in the u.s. and even china did so they they have bypassed us and now the challenge is. to catch up and. to get into a status where you peon companies research institutions and governments. to be competitive in this area so when the european commission president of the lie

and when she says we want to european solutions in the digital economy do you understand or what does she mean. i think this is exactly what we are requesting as the german ai association as well so we have to join forces not only in one country but in the whole european union we have to could elect a tie we have to get the data we have to be able to exchange data across the border and use the states to implement and generate new types of applications that innovative and that create the basis for future economic growth and wealth and what you're saying is that. steps should be taken to make more of a leader in high tech and less of a follower do you think that's something that can be achieved top down because when we talk about silicon valley for example we're talking about people in

their garages founding companies but that's not what we're talking about here in europe. on the one hand we need this crust european market so we have to make sure that a company that residing in one country is able to use data from other countries to sell their applications to other countries as well and to grow and. right now we are as you said we are a little bit behind and efforts necessary to get support from the european union and as stated it's. in the papers that have been popular today that we put a huge effort on getting investments getting new companies to grow new start ups in the ai sector that become european and even global global leaders we know that it's difficult to foresee the downsides of technological innovations i mean if

we consider facebook for example all of the data and play there has created enormous challenges for our democracies even for the integrity of our elections how do we avoid that from happening with artificial intelligence. i think it's the same as with any other new technology so we have to be. observing the plus the teeth as well as the potential negative outcomes of such a new technology and if necessary and of really necessary we have to develop new regulations and maybe even laws in order to cope with a totally new situations and challenges do you think before we run out of time the european union wants to promote responsible approaches to artificial intelligence but does that word responsible does that mean you can't be competitive when you're

trying to compete against you know cheap countries or countries like china. i think 1st of all we have to focus on really getting competitive against these with these companies in a global market and secondly we have to look at regulations and to even use these regulations and a way that we provide and develop better applications better and this can be a competitive advantage but it isn't the case that the competitive advantage automatically automatically comes with strict regulations. you're from the german association for artificial intelligence your we appreciate your insights tonight thank you. thanks for having. we have commuted the sentence of. his 8 years in jail that was a tremendously powerful we get careless sentence in my opinion i just pardon bernie

kerik a man who's had many recommendations from a lot of good people we have mike milken who is gone around and done an incredible job for the world with all of his research on cancer and he's done this and he suffered greatly he paid a big price paid a very tough price i think a lot of people have been treated very unfairly. well that was the u.s. president commenting on his latest pardoning frenzy the list of convicts receiving pardons from the president is getting longer my next guest tonight says that this is the latest proof that the independence of the u.s. justice system is under attack james robonaut is an attorney and the author of several books including ballots and bullets as well as january 1983 watergate roe versus wade vietnam and the month that changed america forever james also teaches legal ethics together with john dean who was former president richard nixon's white house counsel i'm happy to welcome back to the day james james it's good to see you

again you and i last spoke and i was looking today was september of 2018 a lot has happened since then with this trump presidency we've had impeachment and impeachment trial the quibble now we've got a frenzy of presidential pardons how do you describe this presidency in your legal ethics symon are. well i think we really say that this is very much like the nixon presidency i do the seminar with john dean who was his white house counsel into eventually was responsible for bringing down the only president in american history nixon resigned before he was impeached in there are a lot of similarities between nixon and trump and the way they run things that are both authoritarians and they both have a way of trying to get around. the perhaps the most famous presidential pardon is gerald ford pardoning richard nixon after the watergate scandal usually u.s.

presidents they use their pardoning power just before they leave office here we've got president trump in the middle of a term heading for reelection campaign and setting white crime white collar crime convicts free that how do you read that. well i think it's a message for roger stone it oh man a for these are all the people that he wants to. pardon so they don't spend time in prison essentially for the motor report and so i think this is a mess these are message hard and that's why he's done this you know presidents have very unlimited power to pardon it goes all the way back to our founders saying that the president should have this unlimited power it's not reviewable in court congress can overdo it it's really one of the broadest powers the president asked it's been used by them over the years for various things like industry after the vietnam war to various other instances but in this case it's clearly

a message these are message barton's. trump is standing behind his attorney general william barr and you are i'm sure aware that there are calls for bard to resign do you have faith in bar protecting the justice department from white house intervention. no i don't because there's been a lot of white house intervention at this point and he has vowed to to it the problem is with the attorney general there's been a policy since watergate that the people in the justice department should not be bothered by the people in the white house when it comes to investigations because it looks like you're them having political reasons for interfering with an investigation it should be independent that policy has been followed since watergate and it's a strong policy currently though there are been several instances where the president has intervened and it is it is

a real problem here in the united states because people who work for the department of justice have asked for bars resignation as a result and it's a crisis moment for you when you say it's a policy but there's no way to enforce this policy is there i mean the president you know he can choose to respect the policy or choose not to but either way he's not doing anything that's outside of the legal realms that he's given by the constitution right. well you're exactly right article 2 gives him very broad power he's they had a law enforcement but there are really 22 ways to rein it in windy is obviously the impeachment our if he goes beyond what people think is appropriate or are proper he could be impeached for it we saw what just happened there the other is if this literally owes into a criminal act an obstruction of justice a president could face criminal charges after he's he or she is out of life as for

perhaps directing john. you know a corrupt purpose. and you interfere in a judicial proceeding that could be obstruction of justice well i mean if i'm hearing you correctly then what we're looking at it's it would be possible even before the election for another impeachment process soon being started if the house of representatives if things yeah go ahead yeah they absolutely could and there's no limit on how often the congress can impeach a president the house has the ability to do it in their sole discretion so they can bring in other impeachment politically it would be suicide to do so and i don't see it happening before the election doesn't mean it couldn't happen after. life you take a listen to what the former governor of illinois today mr bush go you bitch what he said after he was released from prison. and it all the whole bunch of mistakes and

everything all the false no lines and the things that talk about the legal and this is due to politics i'm going to fight it is that right from the justice system that too often the perceptions and precedents of people. who over sentence people show no mercy. i mean this is a man who was convicted for trying to sell a u.s. senate seat and there this is there's no sound of repentance in his voice and do you think that trump's pardons are they going to make white collar crime wrongdoers more likely to shrug off the threat of being arrested and possibly facing conviction. well it certainly could with people who are high enough there and trumps radar screen but for most white collar criminals it's not going to make a difference because they're not they're not going to be up for pardons in any way in which interesting as this debate happened back when ford pardoned nixon there is a supreme court case that suggests very strongly that if you accept

a pardon you are accepting your guilt in so for him for and the former governor to come on and say you know he didn't do anything wrong by accepting that pardon he really is accepting his guilt that's that's part of what the supreme court has said truth to don't want to get your opinion before we run out of time on the report that came out today julian saunders who could be extradited to the united states soon and his attorney today in a london court saying that donald trump offered julian a sonds a pardon in return for julian assange on just saying that russia had nothing to do with the attack on the democratic national committee's e-mail server before the election if that is proven to be true the white house has denied it if it's proven to be true that would be a clear abuse of power wouldn't and a peaceable offense yeah yeah absolutely and the way i describe it to people is the

president has unlimited power to pardon but take for example somebody who literally gave the president bribe to be part and the president except that would be a criminal act whether he's president or not it would be the subject it would be a high crime or misdemeanor for impeachment purposes and once out of wapas if the statute of limitations hasn't run it could be that the reason for prosecuting somebody so it's it's not a limited to the extent they could be done and in blatant violation of law and if somebody like julian assange has been offered a pardon exchange for lying about something that begins to look very much like a bride to be. i think a lot of people would agree with you james pro but as always james it's good to talk with you we appreciate your insights thank you. thank you for. the berlin film festival or the berlin allah as it's better known is the most important cultural event here in the german capital gets underway on thursday

tomorrow after a few significant changes behind the scenes here's a preview of what's in store this year. waiting in the same long lines for film festival fans but something they're all too used to steal this year's spending all it will be unlike any other. as the festival celebrates its 70000 u.s. 3 it's also under new management carlos out to your aunt mary had written back have taken over and they've already started to leave their mark on the ballot not. there to new directors have brought some changes to the festival. including a slim down lineup and up brand new film category. why because cinema is bigger it becomes bigger and bigger is more pervez it is everywhere 3 makers they stretch the sense of the form so i think that. one single screen. very

good one like the one of the 1000000000 dollar is not enough to tell this date versity 800 films are competing for the golden bear the festival's biggest price many of them deal with provoking subjects. for. bellina alexanderplatz bible is a remake by stone the $929.00 novel by are afraid to bring in the new version francis a refugee attempts to start a new life in the german capital that's what we're going to freak out was he has to reconcile himself with reality as a stream of a clear way forward unravels it would be called the word this person. was sally potus from the roads not taken doesn't make life much easier for shut out father leo ok. damn stuff with al fanning and santa how york. retiree's. daughter molly is worried about her father who's hallucinations and

wandering mind have taken up on their relationship. thank you was. and another subject has overshadowed this year's spending on the nazis a german reporter just uncovered a scandal on home turf the film festival inferential 1st director. was a leading light in cinema industry festival organizers want independent researchers to find out the historic facts. this year the worlds biggest festival for cinema go us has plenty of surprises something friends can count on is cinema royalty and the flash of cameras on the red carpet as the berlin wall is celebrating its 70th anniversary a lot has started to move shining a light on the past of the festival is as important as figuring out its future development the new management is addressing these challenges

a new departure for the balance and every respect. well you know when you know there's never a good film festival without a good skin tone but this year the skinner was not about a film but a former festival director and the master of scandal himself. he's here he's always got good dirt so tell me about the new one is it not see revelations about berlin's 1st film director alfred bauer yeah who is a film historian he was the 1st direct the film festival around the festival for 25 years. and was sort of an iconic figure they had a prize named after him and so forth after after he died these are revelations are incredibly serious they suggest for seemed to prove that he was not only a member of the nazi party but he was also a really high ranking member of the film in stunts which was the nazis film propaganda division and so responsible for producing and he's a medic propaganda pro-war but you know going to know this when he was you know

that's the thing it's seems to be he that he covered up a lot of it and that he whitewashed his his own past and it looks apparently again don't need to make allegations but that that maybe people looked away there was supposed to even be a book published about his his life in time for the 70th anniversary that was quickly pulled after some of these well revelations came out because it seems like the book was trying to propagate some of the apparent whitewash version of his life that he presented but yeah obviously a major major scandal and and yeah and a bit in opportune to come out just before the you know i mean it is it's certainly bad p.r. i mean do you think it's going to have a negative impact on the. i think it's not a damper on the new nobody wants to have a 70th anniversary when you find out the guy who started the party doesn't mean it's what i have to say is the response from the new management of the better not has been exemplary they immediately responded immediately suspended this prize it's named after him they've since renamed it and they have started they've commissioned an independent investigation into the history with

a very respectable institute in munich that's going to look in. this history and we'll reporting their findings by the sun you know you know we're talking we've seen many of these film festivals i think you've covered about what 20 years of the interview so i mean when you look at the films this year what are you most excited about well what i really like about berlin about these type of big film festivals is sort of the extremes that you get 2 completely different films there's one huge hollywood film is going to premiere here on board it's a pixar animation movie really excited to see that love pixar you know a film will go around the world series that's great everybody else's film will be well the 1st people to see it 1st and then on the critics the extreme other side extreme art house movies a russian film called dow da you know it's like an art house experiment on if you were the truman show yes of course this is a real life truman show they treat they took big they create a complex in ukraine put people in it hundreds of people for 3 years film for 3 years and during those 3 years they were pretending or acting out roles as if they were in soviet russia for 3 years they filmed it 247 days there and they've created

a film out of it i have no idea what to expect and what it's definitely not going to be something i've ever seen before you have looking forward to hearing your review about that scott roxboro as always thank you for bringing us the scoop as well as the scandals. and we will be bringing you special coverage of the berlin wall of right here on the w. including right here on the day over the next week and a half so stay right here where the day is almost done the conversation continues online you find us on twitter in the news you can follow me brant go off t.v. don't forget to use the hash tag today and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see that everybody.

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