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security expert and counterterrorism advisor and i began by asking him whether there was more information about the letter and the video that the alleged perpetrator posted on social media the important part of the letter as well as the video is not the the ramblings about really outrageous. conspiracy theories but rather the alignment with a much broader conspiracy theory which is the idea of great the great replacements which is an idea that spawn in the seventy's and grain to gain even more traction with it was more developed in more detail in 2011 in france and this is the theory that advocates that there is a conspiracy at work to replace western populations with migrant populations and since 2015 a lot of the proponents of these and supporters of this theory i feel vindicated through i get america's policy back then and it's prompted
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a lot of the fart rights. extremists and terrorists to act upon those ideas and what we saw in the manifesto as well as the video published by yesterday's attack or is that very much is thoughts in this frame of mind is framed within this theory . can you expand a little bit more on this notion of sparking a race war. yes well the this is in line again with the the great replacement theory is that in the end in order to avoid being replaced. the local populations need to rise up need to take arms and there found their own countries defend their nations the notion of nation is very important defender of the civilization and as such very much as we see in religious extremism and terrorism the idea of an upcoming war the idea of a race war religious war between righteous and none righteous is very much at work here and as such it's a has prompted
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a lot of militias and far right activists an extremist to trains with weapons to try to cumulate weapons set up militias in order to defend their country how prevalent are these philosophies this put it that way. they're extremely prevalent and that's what's a very often underestimated is that we lot of security analysts and even those working for governments very often will use outdated templates for to idolise that the risk related to them. underestimating the power of digital lies ations that one attacker can be inspired by events in new zealand or in chile. in spain and that this network of people online strengthen and each other and spread the ideas and this is where it's really dangerous is that these ideas are far well spread they gain traction every time something happens and this is where we see the real
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potency of these ideas is that it is shared online and it's very easy to share as well. let's talk about this particular perpetrator what do you think went into preparing this type of attack do you think he received help or was this a lone wolf action. well the if history is anything to go by is that although the perpetrators themselves will add hacked acted on their own we saw it in hull and we saw it in christchurch in el paso in quebec city a few years ago however they have online support we know in the case of christ church that the attacker received some money from austria for example and so although it looks on paper at 1st looking at the 1st images of the attack that the modus operandi it does look like a single perpetrator say a lone wolf however again the digital community provides a lot of support for this would it be logistical financial does they get that this
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is why. one of the priorities of the investigation is to determine how deep the rabbit hole goes what type of wedding. what in what type of wedding was this attacker caught in and this is the biggest issue. what is so worrying about of course what percent what happens is that this comes just after this country conducted raids against potential far right militia just last week. indeed and that's again the fact that he was unknown to authorities we would talk a lot about the so-called defend us all the people already on the on the wanted list on dangerous list and that is a major issue because they are there already known but what we don't know are the ones that seem appear normal in their everyday life keep to themselves but nonetheless have a very active online life a social life and put into this context with with all that's going on the polarization of societies over the last few years it does work that some will
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organize themselves as militias where others more discrete then are social relationships classically speaking will act on their own and this is where even if there were a raid last week it sometimes it's and incitement actually an incentive for those lone actors to act because they feel they're somehow under pressure even if it's not directly related to them oh it's a young some p.r. security expert and a counterterrorism advisor so thank you for weighing in. now the german president it is at the scene of the terrorist attack in qana right now as we speak earlier jimmie's interior minister her say hoffer went to the crime scene he said interior ministers from jimmy 16 states would meet to discuss ways to improve security in response to the activities of the extreme right take a listen to what he said. in the middle to be coleman ladies and gentlemen
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we've come here to pay our respects. to express our condolences to the families of the victims in the face of this the magine of all crime. ordered flags from all public buildings in germany to be flown at half mast today. after this act of violence. we want to demonstrate here in the city of have now. our concern and condolences to the public and the entire german state of hessen. that is why we have come here. we have learned about what happened in detail. we must remember that this is an ongoing investigation. however it appears to be the case that there was a racist motive behind this act. racism is
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poisonous. poison that causes confusion in the mind and allows evil to step forward. before the. all right we're showing you a live pictures in this split screen split screen from right here in berlin where people are gathering at the brandenburg gate where moments ago the german the president of franklin to steinmeyer visited the scene of the terror attack in qana he laid flowers and observed a moment of silence and we expect that he is going to attend an address a commemoration a service that will be held at. how know what any moment now but to right right now what you see are pictures from berlin where a memorial event will take place at the brandenburg gate in the center of city
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people are already gathered this country is rattled by this latest hate crime and people are turning out to show their solidarity with the victims and to say that they condemn this particular hate crime all right so the vigil taking place i have here with me in the studio as we're showing you these live pictures did you chief political correspondent mikaela kirshner this is really rattled the political establishment also germans absolutely and people we're seeing gathering there. the ones who simply won't stand for it they don't want to see anything like this happening in many of their bases saying this isn't me this is not the kind of community not the kind of open society that they are experiencing also in the daily lives and also showing solidarity with people who may feel that terribly welcome particularly this evening if they have a background from
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a different country several generations down the line that will germans and everyone's standing together under the mantle put it no matter what the background of people is it's horrible to stand in for all of them and there is really. a lot of people particularly hano but also across germany who feel very insecure this evening about the very society they live in and if someone can just pop out out of nowhere and into. this people feel very vulnerable tonight we've seen dozens of calls for people to come out onto the streets across political party lines from civil society and now we can watch those people gathering here. what do we expect will there be speeches by political representatives of what's happening or is this more kind of a popular gathering i think it will be different in different places i would expect someone to actually say something down at the brandenburg gate this evening we know that. is just so much to. see in. going right
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into the heart of where people have been shaken to the cool the streets they want every single day now becoming a crime scene and actually not a crime scene to scene of terrorism right wing extremist terrorism just right at the doorstep. of course who is the highest representative of the german state who in recent weeks in relation to anti semitism has come out and really taken a very critical view at where germany stands today saying that he wished he could say that and have learned from their history but that what we're seeing today doesn't allow him to say that that's what he said. with respect to the holocaust to germany's nazi past but here we are this also translates into a new effectively a neo nazi targeting people from all sorts of background and of course the crux of
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everything makes this such a sensitive case it is horrible wherever it happens and there has been a rise of populism across the world in europe also but it's because of that history and because. there is a group of people dedicated to not stigmatize people but then something like this happens and it has them scratching their heads i think populism is actually too soft the word we heard from the head of the biggest muslim organization here in germany the council of muslims saying that this was an attack on democracy and it really goes at the haas of what an open society is made of a free society it's how we you stand up for your minorities that is actually seen as an indication crossed the globe as to what the state of a democracy is and now the onus is on politicians tonight and we dems interior minister. actually recognize this to take on responsibility and to assess
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what they can do not just in the immediate aftermath of this but also to address the political climate here already seen a very very tough exchange between big 10 parties like the social democrats actually directly accusing the far right if the party of spreading this venom of hate in society the far right if you rejecting this saying that this was a lone attack that this was a way of the other party is trying to instill mental eyes these events so we'll see a lot of tough exchanges ahead but this evening is all about solidarity for the victims and it will be very interesting to see how many far right politicians actually turn out for this there's a sizable crowd growing there so a lot of people are responding to the call to come and come out tonight in and condemn these attacks so it's it's very i mean it's very symbolic we just had
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another one of those after the holiday was also very poignant where people just gathered around in spontaneously went and paid their respects yes absolutely and also it was one individual who had recorded a video who. you know at the sus sufis of it you would say this was a crazy guy who did something crazy in his motivations were absolutely disgusting but frankly there's just too many of these incidents something must have changed in the climate here and i think we're just the beginning of the of that debate we have learnt in the recent years that intelligence domestic intelligence here has learned from its path mistakes to certain degree where looking at the far right extremists and terrorists motives was simply not on their radar this was the end as you mudda series the span of about a decade 10 people were killed at point blank range in the middle of daylight we saw a huge trial here in germany making the headlines but although we saw
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a much swift a reaction here we've seen the prosecutor general take on this case immediately was they were fostered to recognize the gravity of this the head of this hate aren't for now we're going to leave it there thank you so much mchale as ever great to have your input and for viewers who are just joining us i want to recap our top story today a suspected foreign terrorist has shot dead 10 people near frankfurt's here in germany the suspect opened fire at 2 bars in the town of qana he's reported to have later killed himself and his mother in their apartment 9 of the people he killed were of. foreign descent they were germans writer for foreign descent all right the suspect a 43 year old german national left a letter admitting to the killings he also posted a video on you tube expressing racist and other extremist views federal prosecutors are treating the attacks as acts of terrorism.
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almost of the victims in the attack are set to be of kurdish or turkish origin germany is home to about 3000000 people with a turkish heritage and organization representing them has demanded that the authorities ensure a comprehensive and permanent focus on right wing extremism turkey's president's friendship type one at this. i express my condolences to our expert trades who lost their lives in the german city of han our last night a lot of our minute. i wish patients for their families and friends. i wish you a speedy recovery for our wounded. our embassy and other relevant institutions are following the process with sensitivity. and we are offering the
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