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there voters in 14 states went to the polls to decide who should take on donald trump in the race to the white house. coming up next a documentary about how father lost his diligence of the so-called islamic state the watching remember to visit comp to keep up to date with all the latest news and information time told me a lot of things which. stand for. language courses. video audio. anytime anywhere. w. .
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hy dad it's me there's no future press here i don't have one single dollar. state there's a smuggler who got 10 women out of here yesterday without any problems. but if. it shatters any illusions you might have. your own child would rather go join the terrorists than stay with you. and even things. it's cool if it's on
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a quick glance at some and i thought i was young i guess and want to have it ever evolution as promised sort of. like. this film tells the story of a father i accompanied over a period of 4 years and his daughter. for instance produced it's clear to us the she's not only some little girl who was groomed me to handle i loved it unfold around spot sure i was my name from some of the results of the perpetrator and. the story of 2 vastly different worlds. it was let out of there as quickly as you can go. a story of life and death. sadly i have a i'm waiting please dad please. in march 2015 mike messing's world was turned upside down his daughter had suddenly disappeared without a trace he then started receiving messages on his phone from
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a stranger. was a mere 3 months i couldn't understand what he was telling me a walk. but when i saw that tiny profile photo of him and clicked on it. was all your. concern then saw that flag. that was like final. his daughter leonora was 15 years old at the time her parents had separated some years earlier mike who runs a bakery in a small town in eastern germany had recently remarried was that the reason for leonora's disappearance had she felt like
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a 3rd wheel. to those around her she had seemed like a typical teenager interested in boys and beauty products desperate for clues to help make sense of it all mike searched leonora's room he found her diary and was confronted with a parallel existence one dominated by islam and in which his daughter was wearing a headscarf. he found photos on her computer which showed her hidden transformation. mike hadn't noticed a fing and blamed himself. for tourists if you keep coming back to yourself and ask why for what process or for why for for for for what is old and young girls in germany have been systematically recruited by
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a supporters are searching social media for potential targets it's like diverting off to girls are often married off while they're still minus and push to produce new fighters if they fall out of favor they become slaves so why are girls and young women from across europe choosing to go and live in this stock nice scene. for an agonizing 12 days mike heard nothing from leonora then finally he received a voice message little did the father know that soon he would be keeping his phone by his side at all times it would become the sole source of contact with his daughter. my dad i'm trying to send your voice memo up at least as you quickly only get i'm doing really well we have a really big apartment here. that is over decorated everything in purple of course . you know we don't have couches here but these pillows you sit on. i'm also
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sending you photos of the president he gave me gold because. nora was talking about how wedding aged just 15 she married an islamic state fighter this is the official wedding photo she was one of the man's 3 wives mike's leo was now living in another world in syria in the midst of a civil war. his world had been biking but a village of 200 people in the hearts mountains region of eastern germany. at this point mike approached me. i am a journalist and already had years of on the ground experience covering i-s. and had been to syria and iraq often we immediately had a good report but at that 1st meeting in 2015 we had little idea of how often we would speak and meet over the next years and every time we met one big question loomed why certain suffer consequences shut us out she left us without any
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opportunity to be part of her life. she was a girl who went voluntarily to syria go. and welcome to the talk shop 2 and a half years after the u.s. withdrawal iraq is at risk of being plunged into chaos also here are a mass safe distance we might pinch ourselves as to the pace at which a few 1000 jihadists a terrorizing an entire country designing their militias are over running around one 3rd of iraq and syria and setting up a ruthless regime of terror. and somewhere in the south declared caliphates was later nora gushing with pride over her husband who went by the name of me heard. me heard it was born martin limca and was a welder in a mine in germany before joining i.a.s. where he reportedly came to hold a senior position in ai us intelligence
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a fellow german i asked recruit would later testify that instead of torturing people himself lehmkuhl had others do it for him leonora was getting acquainted with her new home rocca the capital of the i asked califf it she texted her dad about what she'd seen. whoever the roundabout was right outside leonora's home. yes used such violent images as propaganda on the internet in order to recruit new people and intimidate opponents . in the weeks after leonora disappeared the police were informed and visited mike's home where they seized his daughter's computer. but there was little they could do. here mike is heading to berlin to
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a counseling center called high art arabic for life it was set up to help families whose children have signed up to islamist groups. there he met dozens of families in a similarly desperate situation and the center's director cloudier done she advised parents to talk to their children about everyday things in the hope that they'll get homesick. a fetus is and the crucial thing is that you realize you're not alone because you're not the only idiot in germany whose daughter's runaway leonora appeared unaware of exactly what kind of place she was now living in me and i asked in rocca laws and punishment what draconian me listening to western music was punished with whipping me leonora and her fellow wives managed to have their own little parties in secret. like. leonora soon began to lose faith in i.a.s.
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she found her husband disgusting i asked brutal and was unhappy to be one of 3 wives a part time or not after around 2 months she seemed to realize for the 1st time that this wasn't everything she dropped for. but other than she admitted as much i said she wanted to come ome. and wanted us to help her. when you were good and then it helps if you know people who know other people and. the people mike was referring to was our team we knew the other people smugglers some of whom had close ties to i-s. but 1st we want unsure whether journalists should get involved in such a way but after a lengthy discussions we decided we would but under the condition that mike alone would take all decisions our team would accompany him merely as observers a meeting was arranged in turkey when mike arrived we were already there.
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smuggling people out of i asked territory was extremely dangerous especially when a woman was involved. michael met the smuggler in a hotel in southern turkey. we kept our distance while listening in mike to the negotiating. stuff and. i met with this was a smartly dressed guy. he said he had links to the new sort of front. so basically . just. like us by the storm ike from the hamlet of pride and bach was having a cup of tea with 2 guys from al-qaeda. smoking around $100.00 cigarettes. when this incredibly tense what it's like you're talking through interpreters. the smugglers set out a complex secret operation involving 3 cars and forged documents. mike was tempted
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to give them the go ahead straight away i want my kid back. it was kind of that means that afterwards i face prosecution for giving money to a terrorist organization i'd be happy to go to jail as long as my child is back home and. with that go ahead somewhere in syria a group of men set out for rucka they had already smuggled people out of what was now the capital of i asked. that plan to get leonora was potentially a matter of life or death. because rocca the heart of i asked was teeming with militias patrolling the city seemingly at every street corner. shops even often i asked her concretely where she was up to it just just said in her typically casual way sure no problem. leonora sent her father her current location and photos of the surrounding area if doing best buy ins she could be
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sentenced to death. the water that was the plan was to fake up alone or in a car park where she would travel with a cover family as their daughter. that were repeated problems coordinating a pick up with each failure the danger rose. where are they i'm waiting and nobody is here please stop playing it to pull. around a dozen such attempts failed to work out. the of a cog i was there was an hour or an hour and a half each day that were just crushing your nerves having to get the questions rightly repeating answers correctly it was nerve wracking you're so wound up sorry to put into words. but they decided not to give up.
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the boom. boom. boom boom boom boom the gold. dust all of us that was the last thing we heard or read from her directly you live and. then silence for days there wasn't a single word from leonora instead they heard from her husband had. gotten book we were really afraid for layoff was calm kind of madam and then we didn't hear anything nothing for over
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a week you want to go on the one issue. event the 2nd wife of martin alias nihad got in touch. back in brighton bomb mike and the rest of the family needed time before they could start believing the news. slowly it sank in that leonora was dead that she had been killed in a civil war that wasn't hers. 3 weeks after the news of her death we visited mike for the 1st time with the camera again . he told us he was trying to somehow get through the days that he hadn't made it
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through a 90 yet without crying. thank you distort your child is doing. you know you phrased you failed to get her out of there and she shoved your sword. we have got this bomb for going to plant this tree thought we were preparing her but will be saying farewell to our child. we will have a place we can go which is symbolically her last resting place at the border and. we took stock of the last few months going over everything again and again. the family organized a memorial service so that everyone could say goodbye then suddenly a message arrived.
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but was it really her my couldn't be sure so he asked questions to which only leonora would know the answers what had best childhood friend's home looked like inside the names of her grandfather's ponies. the answers were correct leonora was alive. even if she was still living under a terrorist regime islamiyah arabic for islamic state. and he was a tall order man or woman young or old and. even slightly toying with the idea of going off to a doctor in the. desert i should be aware of what they're doing and
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as i stood there making their family go through hell. for leonora's family that held continued every day every week every month mike was haunted by the question of how his daughter was and whether he would ever see her again in winter 20152016 in syria people were being killed on a daily basis on all sides. have. mancow with mr canal for right now there is nothing we can do just wait through the underbrush and assure you of that we were getting experienced in this. not giving up is the most important thing because sometimes you have lows. cura to carry on.
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but mike was permanently on edge the constant flow of messages in use was like being on a hamster wheel that never stopped spinning. leonora contacted him reported that her husband me hot now had a slave a woman he bought. it so he had came home yesterday sometime after midnight and said sorry bought myself a slave for $800.00 when i was like $100.00 is nothing it's how can somebody do that comes from a human being. she's a has a at least 30 years old and has 2 children so i don't know what to say. let's just so sorry for her arms her blue no idea there is not treat her well at all she's really starting for must fix their reports of mass executions of women and girls being raped and sold into prostitution and of children being forcibly recruited for
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fighting for title it seems the displacement of these c.d.'s is deliberate people who are not children slave to driven out of the villages with no water or food. but i said i 1st thought was this poor woman at the bus just 2 kids i think i'm pleased mercy you have a dangerous man. how can a person change like that because your question keeps bothering me mr shifty that he's grown up here and probably happily he went to kindergarten and high school a normal civilized person wouldn't buy himself a slave and. i'm so shocked. i want to help her and it's like i want her to at least have a few ok days that's had a. chance i'm sorry thank god. the woman was called la mia she wouldn't be an issue for leonora for very long because soon after this photo
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was used to offer her for sale back to her family. one year later in 2016 i drove to northern iraq i-s. free territory lammy i had found refuge in a displaced persons camp here might be looking for her for months. i cautiously stepped into the room. i was still severely traumatized. me we communicated with the help of an interpreter. nobody could say how many men had literally owned her she was barely able to talk after a while i showed her a photo of leonora's husband how did he buy her. it. does she remember his name.
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with us how did he treat or. you kissed me. and. then left me alone for the entire time we were there her children likewise barely said a word. llambias husband was still missing she was living and her brother in law's tend. the family had to raise $24000.00 to secure her release money they didn't have. me i would spend another 3 years in this kurdish tent city since 2900 she and her children have been living in safety in canada and we've been told she's doing a little better. suddenly last night fight has begun advancing on the terrace militias unofficial capital back out for the barricades on rocker in the autumn of
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2017. 1. a short time later leonora left rocca and i asked lost control over the city. when mike heard the news he feared the worst for his daughter as so often before. that it's you're sitting here you can't do anything. you feel completely powerless . over to try to distract yourself and not think about it too much and if through fear that will because there's nothing you can do with. the most you just have to accept things as they come. and in.
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the. meanwhile leonora was carrying on with her life she posted m.l.g. celebrating her 1st week of pregnancy. while leonora was still somewhere in syria i traveled to the liberated city of raka now little more than a wasteland of ruins and rubble i found the apartment where she used to live. egypt in the month when she posted photos from morocco back then i spent ages searching the internet to find out exactly which building she was in. this was what was left of the stairwell leading to her apartment.
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leonora spent several months here and evidently made herself at home while just out on the streets people were being locked in cages and i asked was publicly torturing and murdering. leonora and other i asked deaver to use one now on the run and being hunted down by the international coalition led by the united states. 2017. june.
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she was probably somewhere in the vicinity of the euphrates river in eastern syria . and. while my continued to keep his bakery running leonora was trying to find a people smuggler to get her to turkey and out of the war. there is the smuggler who got 10 women out of her yesterday without any problems. ok ok use that chance get out of there as quickly as you can. come and then the day actually arrived when they said they were setting off i was. coming to find out it's me oh i'm at the wing point and praying to allah that was each other soon ok the spaniards and a few minutes time i'll be offline a. month i mean sure like i'm pretty anxious but i guess it has to work out.
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how much data stay strong don't cry. don't come and then there were no more messages maybe they really had set off. and then our smuggler of choice contacted me. and he started this horrible. really nasty she says well game is the wrong word in the things he said there are loads of checkpoints we're having to bribe so many people so we need more money you can write back a 100 times i haven't got any more. i build up this unbelievable pressure so what can you do. you won't go around in circles going out of your mind. just for anything and go. ahead and drinking helps you know. that you're
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a complete wreck because you know the next message they send could be. well i think good as of it's going to. come in gotten to the eventually they had me so desperate that i said fine i'm actually going to have to transfer the $8000.00 he won so that they at least stay alive. but they weren't even able to tell me where to wire it to those of the rooms i do not own vision you realize these guys really have to be nuts and you're just helpless. it was.
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it was so tough it's all those few days were worse than the 4 years before that. it's difficult to describe because in your mind you're up on the ladder and the newest was above you but this is just too much it's not possible to do because not reach a point where you just can't take it anymore i can't do this to anyone anymore. it's so bad that you want to give up through and give yourself up because you want an end to this misery and if i'm no longer alive then ok maybe leo will also die but then my family will have peace. and then that's the point you reach so i actually block out the number i just couldn't go on and fix. look at fix them for.
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what i told myself i wouldn't cry today i was well. it was one of my darkest hours of the northeastern. he 7 contacts knowingly and nora might die. the mental strain from mike and his family back home in pike and it's simply too big. for us going x. day or the day after i don't remember exactly leo contacted me and it didn't work out we didn't even leave both through this how do you not just keep. well over. in autumn 2018 leonora was still on the run with her husband. with the war still raging around them she had a 2nd child maria also born prematurely. at rates artillery and ground offensives
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that seem islamic state reduced to islamic village. hi dad it's me. we're in the last religious left we're surrounded we're on the only street that islamic state still controls itself for. us i don't know he's a lawyer living on top of each other starving children are freezing to death. or going to get out there's no future for us here we don't have one single dollar that can sing us we have absolutely nothing and often have nothing to eat we've decided to give ourselves up. for the soon to be. with the friends we're going to i knew it meant that radio syria was back on the air. after 4 years you build up your own protective armor. with the transponder through as it was
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a voice message from martin limca. didn't sound too happy. least talk to the government i'm willing to do anything and i was never a soldier i never killed anyone i'm willing to pass on any information i have. no there are trials in germany and i'm willing to help the government is a serious issue and it's important for us that the women and children arrive home in good health. i don't want to stay in a jail here in syria things like i have no problem going to jail in germany concerning my sentence there. i'm really afraid so. i don't want to get beaten up the whole time i have a heart condition and picked up an ammonia here we're all really sex and. so the same man who tried to ruin your life 4 years ago is suddenly saying poor me . and please don't tell anyone about this message if someone here finds out that we
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want to get out we might end up getting killed in the recent shoot out the movie to go. take along plenty to drink just get out of there and take care of yourself. in any 2900 more than 40000 people in the last enclave i ask surrendered. in germany all mike could do was wait for leonora to make it out on january 31st 2019 that wait was finally over. hi dad it's me leo just want to say that i've left i yes we're all really happy that we made it. was picked up by the americans but all fine they've been really really good to us. even though i got up as usual at 130 quarter to 2 the same as usual check my phone and i saw i'd missed a whole lot of calls and what's up messages friends had recognized the young woman
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in this video footage as leonora agency reporters had met her in the desert. and because i wanted my my old life a long time ago and now i know that. often makes all but i was on my way to work. all week and then it finally went click. there's a joke in you go back over the last 4 years there were incredible amount of images going through your mind i feel a lot of things you suppressed negative stuff to. cry a little bit as well of course and it's only then that you realize how much pressure you've been under because it became your daily life so you didn't really even register at all and suddenly. you feel yourself getting lighter and lighter
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and free and i got out of my car and i thought yes. this its over. they can't anymore. leonora was detained in this camp a tent city outside al hole in the northern syria together with 70000 others in a fierce debate erupted in germany over whether the country should take back those who had gone to join i.a.s. didn't they pose a threat. we returned to syria in march 21000 it had been 4 years since leonora had run away from home and i wanted to finally meet her. at midnight from her online chats be shooting the ones she last posted you sometimes get the impression that despite how long it's been and how much older she's become she still has this 90 about her and you wonder how that's possible be designed. to feel it can even if it's not she's not 19 and she's been through such
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a loss she's been in a war being bombed out of her home seen all this awful violence and is still so naive and really interesting to see how she is in person that really her just as much of my good eye and. while i was about to meet leonora mike in germany was looking forward to his daughter finally returning home although he did have doubts as at least i'm not really sure who i'll be welcoming our. 4 years of bias and propaganda have to have a look at this and for that she was really young when she left she was seduced sure before but she was happy to be seduced on the phone that's also part of the truth of order to. leonora a willing accomplice. had she now realized what she had done to her family and to people in syria and ultimately to herself too i wanted to know everything including what it was that made islamic states so appealing to her. if land mines
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on then. i'm sort of in a lot of people in germany who are converting to islam and britain to. face and i ended up in this facebook group and i think i was young i guess and i wanted a bit of revolution i wasn't take stream stuff. maybe i was a coward because i ran away from home and thought this is a way to solve all my problems in one go i love my father who. she told us she had distanced herself from i as a long time ago but how did she feel about the things she had done that she really thought about the past 4 years had she confronted her deeds. everything changed you know the marriage wasn't the same life in general in syria was not for me i was no longer happy with my life. there were also a lot of problems within the family there and i just wanted to go home and i when
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that failed things got worse because i understood that i now had to live there whether i wanted to or not. because i try to escape once my own husband. this is her husband me her w.r.c. a born martin limca. german prosecutors are preparing a case against him and have issued an arrest warrant. when we met it seems he was hoping for liberty even for my bio from germany. it's tough you're under huge mental strain i mean a one man cell i don't see or hear anything. he told us he only worked in the technical department of i s intelligence but he never fought never murdered or tortured anyone nor ordered anyone to he insisted he was merely a peripheral figure despite having had a slave why did you buy
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a slave. be talking with my lawyer. but i haven't done anything bad. and she was in very poor health and we helped her but i never talked to her. about why did you buy a human being with 2 children and it is often a sad thing is she was doing really badly. and in islam you're rewarded for treating a slave well because leaders have rights. and going to understand he said the question. is this woman was really ill but as i said we helped her where we could. and i had no other intentions i already had a big family of course if they wanted to make money by her cheap fatten her. look if you want to provoke me no that's not true no no i don't need that money
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just. bought her an order to trade her. we had money problems all the time oh so martin to make money. only to make some money he said that her up nurse her have her take a shower and give her kids food make sure that she puts on weight so she's worth something. like a flattened car right must. leonora's account incriminated her husband but what about her own row german prosecutors are looking into pressing charges against leonora who's now 19 like her husband she suspected of having spied for islamic state intelligence and having supported a terrorist organization. do you ever work for the secret police or pass on information to your husband. i heard that it's just ridiculous. whether she committed a crime will be decided in the german courts in the eyes of her father she needs to
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face up to her moral responsibility for having joined a terrorist group one for the 3rd was that she's not only some little girl who was groomed and. is just as much a perpetrator you just have to face the reality is the. leonora seemed carefree as she talked naive or traumatized it was hard to tell she doesn't seem to have reflected on how her family were fairing kurdish intelligence officers then told us our time was up. thank you for coming thanks. leonora gave interviews to other reporters as well and recited passages from the. oran. it seems she gave little phone to what impression this would make on people back home in her village. most people say she's fully bailed out singing muslims on this although it's not
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a song so this. has learned nothing b. doesn't belong here and see she's dangerous. perhaps it would be more prudent for leonora to stay in a neighboring village away from the media frenzy expected to descend on pike. and there indeed appears to be a solution mike and cloudier done shit from the berlin counseling center met pastor marcus bloomer who's a friend of mike. who has. a look. take a little look around the place off well that's great the pastor knows how people in the area think and he has experience dealing with individuals whose lives have gone through dramatic changes. the 1st thing we want is for them to have contact with their families and been to under from you know paul wellstone and to give leonora a place where she'll feel at home and safe with her children while still being
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independent. the german government still has to decide if and when leonora may come home. will see. omens enough fault and if she does have to go to jail and then for a reason. a few she's definitely going for a beer and a schnitzel with me like an oath of allegiance. clothes that you're going to wear with a clear conscience. the fashion industry is going green a lot of companies right sustainable on their label. what does this clothing really need sustainability standards where you go undercover to find out eco friendly fashion green sheen or the real deal. close up.
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