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i have to me welcome to cover it so thank you for having me you have much to say about the violence that the who feeds and human rights violations that they've committed but you appear to have almost nothing to say about the shocking casualties and bombings by the saudi led coalition that's killed many thousands of your civilians why is there well that's not accurate actually you know. the war is ugly i'm not even going to sugarcoat that for you or for anyone a lot of civilians are dead yes this is this is shocking i mean you hear the news and you know it's a big campaign but there's a difference between having human shields like that who these or some mistakes that happen in every conflict in every campaign and the suit is no difference but you

know that human rights are being massively violated by coalition forces but to look the other way which means going to a certain extent your complicity in this something to well i'm not sure what you mean by looking the other way we have this giant which is an investigation body that has investigated over 170 claims we know that some mistakes we prove that there are some mistakes some of them all i want to talk about the united nations and loads of both but since march 2015 according to human rights watch the coalition has conducted numerous indiscriminate and disproportionate strikes killing thousands of civilians hitting civilian structures in violation of the laws of war but you turn away you left out horrible let me put it on record this is horrible killing of civilians in yemen is horrible we want in this what killing even one life let alone a child which happened even by coalition let me finish so i go on with indiscriminate disproportionate attack it ok this is a big campaign right and there's some mistakes and we approve of we know that some

business more than some wenzel i think the u.n. need to investigate more and we know it's you know this thousands and thousands of circling and dead if there's an airstrike a mistake everybody's reporting a part and they should report a pilot we should hear about it but there's a lot of mistakes that the code is and i'm not here to talk about the who these under coalitions have been mistakes i want in this war i'm from san am from those territories my family says that we're sick of it and we need to end it and just blaming now the coalition for him for all these would not end the war we need to. and did yes we did we want to stop the killing even understand the world but why do so many civilians have to die for the sake of saving a chaotic divided government such as yours which barely has legitimacy with a wintry start with digital service legitimacy is not popularity i'm from a different country than the president but the president is the last effective president 6 and a half 1000000 people elected our president 2012 for 2 years where he will to use

his mandate run on his moments i now go to use it and tell that we have a democratic system that we allow this to elect a new president who is going to give us and who decides what a democratic so yeah. exactly began many people and who would do that those who would like that ok i'm not going to allow you or anyone to tell me you have to choose this leader to get you out of this week ok let me if we choose a leader and we need to get out of it we don't want to be there for life that's why we actually had the revolution back in 2011 minister the worst thing about the bombings is that in all these years they have proved absolutely futile you have won nothing and the who says remain unchanged so the catastrophic injuries and deaths among the civilian population of prisoners are like i haven't spent a change in the way the coalition has been conducting this war there's no more campaign to actually targets other cities they've been sometimes some of the escalations with the who it is and the sudanese renard involve them and then it

didn't happen because we know we need to end this what are we need to part how to end this war we you know everything that happens in yemen is a reaction to the who things actions we could be and so on and one week if they just do the right thing and there i think is not hard to do and why don't we ask them when we actually answer that question more than 17000 civilians killed and injured since 2015 the lives was sacrificed for a stalemate proxy war that created the world's largest humanitarian disaster you really believe your government is worth that her. human i believe our future is worth fighting not about a future without you cargo the future was a cry i could resign even today not tomorrow you know what if you know the who thiis and few know their ideology if you know that they want to have this have the medicaid who the as a figure nobody could that lacked buffer zone and then we'll have a puppet government they want we want not accept that i will not give up the future

of my children and their children so you can sleep better at night you know it is my country my people are dead they are dying every day you expect me to just to saddle for any peace that would explode in our face any time in the future no i'm not going to concede to that with these i'm from their territories under the we don't approve what they do and they have to come and part peace soon and we have to actually send the right signals to do that they have these illusions of power that you and others would feed in but as i say they're called action has to go where the coalition would end if we end the war but not before that if they end if the coalition ends yemen would descend into more chaos it's not about federalism either government or the president have these things in powers or mostly in yemen from the us that you talk about the investigations that have gone on into what you term euphemistically mistakes in most cases you're not going to find the perpetrators and bring them to justice are you we know that 3 attacks on civilians several years ago are being referred by investigators for possible prosecution just 3 out of

countless bombing strikes that have repeatedly this civilian infrastructure shingles or. change or let me put them in should check surely chump change look i let me put it for the record and he said billions are dead those responsible wherever they are they should be hold accountable they should be but they will be and you know it factors previous investigations don't encourage up to when we really want to know about what investigations are when we know what we will some for show up a story that's what mistaken sloan and i so call it many many years to get. started on. we could tell us about what you think the facts i mean yes civilians are dead this is horrible we do the investigations but we need peace we need peace i mean we're talking about having peace and it's not easy you know the thing is you want to get away from the subjects numbers to go to now because they did not let me let me just be a pro national story just it is international justice unfortunately sometimes don't come hand in hand we have to have peace and then we'd have transitional justice

afterwards to get all this done you're the one who's refusing talks with the who through that's what you think of it that's what you've said now your ministry of information said it to no no no i represent the foreign policy if you meant we need to target soon however i'm not going to let the horses get off the hook and the data we went to sweden and we signed the deed they came back one year they haven't done anything to prove it should i just let them go off the hook and then move on i know they have to be responsive obama destroying your country piece by piece child by piece of in those directions i am for a structure that is no wrong and continue with this humanitarian disaster one is a documented asin disaster if you think or case and i report let me let me just jump to that why do you think that these are holding it hostage we're open to any foreign turn of life they're refusing because they want to commit this seizure this aggression against them and to hold on to power which they don't have who gave them the right to speak and for and behalf of me on behalf of millions if you have an

ease and they use our power and they have this illusion of taking us back before 62 will the minister you've dug in your heels the u.n. is seeking unconditional talks unconditional talks between you and the movies you've got to your heels and rejected or not or as didn't i didn't who says stop january the 20th the minister of information said we categorically reject any talk about. what we said is i am willing to go now to peace or if we're going to talk peace however we need to have the right conditions to god are ok you have one son can be. ok i don't want to go for part b. so they could have a good report for the student council i want to go and peace to make sustainable peace for yemen and if the truth is would sign degrees sign and act like what they did in sweden and come back and not implement we should actually hold them accountable for implementing something known going on during them because you won't sit down and know that it is not and you are setting clinician ask around not going

to be met and you're ignoring the advice of these are not innovations we're just we're just saying they have to implement what this site is that it's really hard to ask we cannot just go on by them signing of course and not implementing anything you know what we did back in 2014 we had a peace deal just a few days after the coup 2 days after the call it was the partnership and peace agreement you know what they agreed to be agreed to partnerships but the security measures they never talked about it why aren't you talking about that i mean it is there you want me to try again about would you responsible for most that i understand there are no angels in war but according to international investigators your forces have nothing to be proud of last year the u.n. panel of experts on yemen accused all sides in the war of committing horrific abuses from arbitrary killings to rape and torture with impunity so not only have you not won this war you also lost any claims about moral ground haven't you i'm not going to claim were angels nobody yes we just need to end the 2 and i can tell

you it's a long way from being in this government government especially a to feel says we're not arbitrarily detaining forcibly disappeared schools of pain well we have no respect for the rule of law we do we do but sometimes it's really hard to control everything i can tell you but it's not systematic killing of a yemeni people like you want to show it to be you know you keep just talking about 2 sides have you been to yemen have you been to santa have you been to ireland have you been to her didn't matter if you listen to the people themselves and that you can't just brush everything as as as you know she has in a divided as a rich. countries fighting a poor country that is not the way to end this war and we know there's some atrocities happened i mean we are few you know a few miles from from just that we know what history is like why continue to block a vital goods and fuel from coming into this and this is good this is a good question we're not actually doing so what we did is we're trying to block the oil shipments to come from iran to the who the social rights watch are going to

be wrong have there in the latest report they say that basically the saudi led coalition's restriction on imports have worsened the humanitarian senators were not true and let me tell you why if you were you know what we said is today i was up and we were a few kilometers from the port the humanitarian came in the u.n. says you can't do this we said fine let's go to sweden and we need to change this out of school one year is nothing habit then we go back to the question the questions that we have actually holding for the rest of this is not true we have reports from the u.n. power doesn't say that that you're probably not going to mention that shipments of iranian all you're coming with counterfeit documents today of these were free you know we said by the crease 75 let's just check the papers they're saying let me just give me just finish and then i'll hear you we just said let's just check the papers the paper skein the who he is hold hostage and have every marsh's not to submit the papers so they could get to phony shipments so who's holding that and

then we can see that we never go there right now is that minister human rights watch is saying the coalition has delayed and diverted fuel tankers closed critical ports and stopped goods from entering controlled seaport what is the usual thing i just finished fuel needed to power generators to hospitals and pump water to homes has also been some luck how do you justify preventing the harder if you ask her when i was justifying preventing anything in the past 3 months have been more fuel than that and that in the previous 3 months or so you checked the statistics and we're talking more than 2 years ago the u.n. high commissioner for human rights big both you and the rebels to let splays of food and medicine into the country. all parties to the conflict so the panel of experts on yemen have obstructed the distribution of humanitarian assistance the high commissioner beg you. have mercy on the people of your mum far as this gone when you are actually doing our best to show mercy on your own people we give

you something you know what i don't like something about the un this that they call everyone when they know exactly who is making the problem let me just give you an example a few days ago they had a meeting and brasil about the charter is that the who these are doing to the humanitarian field you know their want to tax your taxpayers' money that comes to yemen so they could steal it and not justified when they went to bias against you is this $1.00 of those nightmare there's one to be in a neutral party you don't want to say ok i am willing to receive any criticism but don't say all the parties tell me what i did wrong and i'll fix it but you have to point fingers also at the truth is point finger at me and also point 4 was that the whole thing you cannot just barely have very kind of bad point to change the things are they going on it was clear to them now i know what i do and we are trying to struggle and as i said to you earlier government affiliated forces arbitrarily deterring forcibly disappeared schools of people when you say mistakes happen in war they fancy excuse no i mean we i mean give me specifics and we would actually

fix them i'm not saying you haven't read the report but i have read their own experts yes yes and there are plenty of service areas repudiates it was handled by as the very 1st reports so it is not you have kids and they were being fired as we're talking about different everybody who violates human rights accuses the ideas of that but mostly by it's just be more specific so we can know what we talk about we have an expert group which is the u.n. and our panel according to that is actually following this recount said that movies are not even never get the sun up we believe whatever they say and whatever that is not biased we will check if we have mistakes to do there is another really axe. to come from the human rights council the 1st really the 1st report was so by it just took exactly from the pentagon propaganda of the who thing and we looked them no we said you can't just have and factual checks you have to check them before you reported and then you can just say you know everyone limit let me give you some

facts 20100 strokes on yemen by the coalition forces since the war began an average of 12 attacks a day these are tax of blown up hospitals school buses markets mosques farms bridges factories where no detention centers coalition air strikes the un human rights commissioner said in 2 of the 17 coalition airstrikes continue to be the leading cause of child casualties as well as overall to civilian casualties so he didn't know what he was talking about as much luck will you isolation of human lives they have no idea what they're saying about happen and i told you before but you have probably a better leader than most you have to be on the report now it's a policy of you can't using civilian infrastructure other pilots so incompetent that they can't tell the difference to him are fed up in them and we've. had habits that we can then that we would continue to years later that if you are half your life you will point out for what they are doing we need to make peace we don't want to continue this war and we have to do it a few just weeks ago

a few days ago they destructed hospitals it's not right but we don't want just to dwell on it we want to know what is now required to make peace and i know what is required to make peace we need to crack the illusions talk that john king is required or it is about talking over this is going to end as a negotiating table otherwise surely it won't be changed and the sooner it gets there the better and the moment you know what it is and prevent those wanting to know men like calling the who these know when needs to be done we debated it for 100 days in kuwait and you know what happened at the end they changed their mind you know why because they know that they would have a better thing if they don't sign. unfortunately the international community especially some parties sending the wrong thing and that maybe if you just hold on to take in yemen hostage you would get a bit of the that's what happened and that's what we need to close the last year as well as fighting the hoofy rebels who became embroiled in another civil war this

time with forces in the south in the nose the transitional council so not only are you failing to beat the who feels you can't even keep your own side together and you cannot ignore the great gratitude about that if you are still a great record now let me talk about that as a precaution what happened is another complication that is not 12 months of course you know and very want to secede determined to succeed on the comp of complication what it is that it won't if it's really hard to discuss something without really proper to those just in of where this is actually happening if the s.t.c. our brothers and the f.c.c. really really represent all sufferance it would be an easy problem to solve the s.t.c. have a problem with south koreans themselves not with the f.c.c. is s.t.c. is just units outside of the control of the government that i've been beefing up with another of m. and s. and then eventually they decided in august to oust the government from our 2nd capital that cannot happen and we made it clear to the un again they were difficult

for and it was only the saudis that patch together and then agree i agree you call the riyadh agreement that's not working either is when it is not working because there's just some intransigence and we believe this with these would be a on all sides no and the s.t.c. sites and we could prove it we have the facts we have the metrics that actually explains what we did but you know we have to pass that you've given away a lot to get the 3 agreement to you've basically given some of these control over major decisions that your government is taking you say no according to the carnegie middle east center several articles of the riyadh agreement emphasize saudi supervision of this new government but very in the u.a.e. will continue to intervene as they wish. in term of there as i found out was the price for your dream and that is not completely out of the price of the riyadh agreement is to get united so we can pick it back and make peace you know you can just have everything perfection is not really a possible way out in yemen and it is actually the enemy of good and that's what we

want at the cellular center for strategic studies says that your president. has to see that something transitional council have accepted that all major government actions become warden noted by saudi arabia so basically you saw you know that is not true i am the form compass of a society governed that's what you think the foreign minister of yemen and i say a word i believe it is for the right to the yemenis now with the sudanese want now what the iraqis want network anyone wants and that's proven yes we really aren't we go back to other but we speak our minds and it is our responsibility and decisions we have in the reality greenman conceded to have some way in actually dealing with the south of the sudanese now that instead of them what are these and we need peace we don't want to fight a war in the northern wall in the south and we know that the ethicists do not represent all the suck the whole southrons and that that's an issue too and they have to know that they cannot just continue being outside the form of the government if we if this government is dissolved you would have more chaos in yemen

then you would think it is not as easy as you think it is that last year the saudis actually expelled one of your government advisors to the move to hire him and because what he'd want to size criticized coalitional out in the sun what are you i don't know is a diplomat with me he actually came and did something against protocol it's not because he still has to do anything they don't expel him his chairman ended and we did it from the office because he actually vitalism of the cause of the diplomatic court now you can't just politicize everything like this i don't think it is right i don't know if i stay for the whole matter how do you know he's a diplomat who actually didn't actually respect the rule of law can conquer about the rape when one but he could go back to yemen you could be anywhere else we could go back to arabia why not but not as a diplomat it ended. talk to me about corruption go on in your state because it's

not enough that there's a huge war the humanitarian disaster seems that the state money is not being siphoned off in corruption scones involving the central boke of yemen where is that going where the central bank i am or the report which you're referring to now we have from the u.n. panel of experts just yes of course that's what you're trying to guess you know is talking about and some paragraph. you know i spoke to the prime minister about it we've sat 2 governors already our books are open anderson youngest coming to i then to actually check the books of the central bank it's open there was so bad having been audited for 6 years i asked the prime minister of this report why don't you just let the panel going check the books you know what he said didn't ask to go and check now or anything young come in to check if we have some mistakes if we have some corruption charges we would be ready to act upon them were transparent comment check them send them in the team you want to do so we need to end this war we don't want to continue yes there's some corruption i'm not going to deny it so we need to end it and we're willing to crack any cases if you if you just fight them i mean

just point them at us and we will do so you keep saying you want to in this war do you really believe that a single unitary state is going to emerge from the turbot destruction that you and the other combatants of inflicting it on something i think we as yemenis need to know what's the difference between a means to approve something and the goal you know i'm talking about the massive divisions in libya and i'm trying to get to that. the goal is to raise up the standards of living of the yemeni people unfortunately some camps would actually create the means which is unity central government that is as actually their goal which is wrong you know so we gave the central government to go it didn't work in the national dialogue everyone including the who thinks the thousands decided on a federal system let's just give it a chance let's just give this for the sun a chance to see. not all of it quite a lot of it no wives are lauded for all of this said so you know the central no

longer the lines going on and the rights of the divisions on your interest and our center that you actually quoted had actually sung paul in the south and not all of them more than 50 percent even 60 percent want to stay in some form of federal government not not everyone in the south want to secede and even if they know you have a civil war within a civil war that's quite an achievement isn't the it's not a civil war than a civil war there were so few skirmishes back in the south and it's over now skirmishes that kicked you out a very yes you know we went through other asylum issues and yes but now that's called a disco who was another no prime minister just came from adam yesterday and he's gone back and i mean it's not like the whole south is turning against the government you check the south shall be and valley and the hedge i mean it is not the case you know the s.t.c. need to known that they have to cooperate to be part of this government they don't they don't have the backing of all the south koreans those in the south opposed them more than those in the new survey need to know they have to cooperate they are

dead set on well known as a session who said so they did know that is not correct ask i'll do as the others who signed the riyadh agreement i mean it is not correct they want to stay and they said so the southron issue for them not what we say would come after we finish the war with the who thing and then we can discuss it that's what they say so you know just the facts. oh peace and human over and world com and we wanted to come but we're not just going to have any peace with the who is you know i'm not going to give the future of a few men to those who believe that they could just you know he have been and have this defined way to all of us like what they do in iraq we're not going to accept that there is need to know that they could share power that they cannot get to do it with guns facing and you know pointing in our face more hollowed out on the that's very much being more thank you so much for this particular discussion.

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