but became public but including in the irish county where you are from this garage looking back do you see your own experience in a different light i do because i was at a boarding school where a good number of the priests ended up in jail and so i think if you're a novelist but if you're anybody but just said knowledge and you're looking at think i know when that happened and how it happened but at the time i missed it i didn't realize what was going on right in front of me and i think for a novelist it's a tremendously interesting idea that all the time perhaps in all of our lives in our characters lives there's something going on that's maybe obvious except if they don't notice us. in a landmark referendum of 2015 a majority of irish citizens voted in favor of recognizing same sex marriage calling to be openly gay i played an important role in the campaign and is proud of

ireland's development. you were brought up in a kind of dark time were certainly saw homosexuality had no name in the country which doesn't didn't recognize gay rights. it was it was being gay was seen as a form of perversion and suffering when did this when did you realize you were gay and when did you decide to go public. probably realize that early on and i think it was a very common thing in our lives or you would tell one or 2 people one or 2 people would guess and then no one else would know so you would compartmentalize everything so that you know he lived it felt easy it felt natural but when i went to live in spraying when i was 2975. boston i was wild i thought time. there were no gay bars which meant that the street certain streets were

just filled up not with gay men wandering about and it might have seemed there was repression but it didn't feel like that in spain felt much more open people were much more ready to enjoy their lives and arlen there was always guilt or. to be described as skilled very well. honors his characters in their struggles many of which are universal. alias for instance fled poverty and suffered emotional turmoil as did millions of immigrants. to be in thinks it's important to get the setting right e.q. to pitch the times in which is characters are living. i almost think if you know in

a painting or portray the work done behind the brushwork just make it color behind often does a great deal of work even though it seems like background i think if you're writing a novel set in time no matter what you do what going on in that in the either background or deep background of the society has to make its way into the novel even if you try to keep it out it will come in somewhere other doesn't meet the foreground this project to know it if you know what year because it matters enormously. the characters in tobin's novels tend to be ordinary men and women teachers accountants merchants all from rural ireland are the heroes and heroines of his novels also his readers yes how did this become a good it's become a good audience. they buy books and you get a sense that a book a novel a new novel isn't it is some sort of intervention. imagine

a sort of imaginatively in the society that somehow or other book clubs or women who for example haven't had a greater chances or education will take a book open to the out of the book and up meaning a lot of them to this because they're in a way i think this is obvious so filled with still i think silences with things are just not mentioned much that it's it's if you don't talk often about things that really matter to you. so that for example if there's if you lose somebody even after death people often just go quiet about it just because that's where a book that deals with that becomes a way of breaking assad. was tobin's most successful novel to do. it was adapted to a screenplay too though he didn't write it he did however write the screenplay for return to montauk together with german jew better focus she learned. the screenplay

of brooklyn was written by many kong the after that german director for castle and of asked you to to help them to be the cove writer for the screenplay of return to montauk. how did that happen and can you imagine today. writing the screenplay for one of your own novels no i think it's if you've written a novel but you don't want to do that is go back and make changes in it that you would never have made when you were writing it and find with a producer or a new producer or group of people telling you on oh we don't want her to go you know we want her to go to not go home or you know go to brooklyn much earlier so we had said and you're suddenly actually you know. destroying your own work so i didn't want to do that i liked what nick did but i didn't want to do one for the book or stronger of a. i was ready i'd probably i've just written

a novel too i was sort of free and the idea of working with him and learning something and actually looking at the form of screenplay and thinking about actors and we had a very good time both of us doing this a lot of the time we wrote together i mean literally together i mean we would be opposite one another to talk or no not listen to this he said no no no you're actually right this right this to try this and i was just like that for hours people were stranded. people were staying with me saying she was mad is to trust their how you're not even listen to each other. so far returned to montauk has been tobin's only foray into the world of film he's currently working on a new novel cut. one of the 1st also if you've read when you were young was too much money and now he told me that you're writing a novel about too much money can you tell me a little bit more about it you know when i was a teenager you were nobody in my world if you know you've heard watching grant's films and reading the magic mountain then you know that they were the sort of

necessary things part of that world of being you know an art student or literature student. in the early 19th seventies and he's been on my mind as a figure of great time to get here but nothing about him is fully clear from his sexuality to his relationship to his family to his political beliefs to his response to various public things that occurred to the great difference between his life in the 1st world war and the life of the 2nd world war his relation to his brother to his mother to his sons to his daughters as there's nothing stable that in all that there's nothing everything has to be investigators and dramatize so it's so it's a very interesting story a lot of it centers on the writing of dr faustus. so they're looking at us and show. you know but having

a rich time really trying to invoke him not as a power for much but try to put him fully as a character in the whole. to be was hardly able to write for almost 2 years he was diagnosed with cancer in 20 underwent chemotherapy with prolonged stays in the hospital it left him exhausted. in an essay for the london review of books you've wrote about you dealing with the diagnosis and the treatment of cancer why did you feel the need to write about it look i promised i wouldn't you know i hate people writing about their illnesses and i just it's awful and i really said i wouldn't do it and also no one asked me to do there was no demand for this and then one day i just a sentence came into my head and the sentence was it all started with my balls it's like the sentence you know all of baltimore start and then once i wrote that i just

for a month or so just what had to is regularly. other things that happened. that i had you know but a 1000 words and i thought well you know i read it over again and i just laughed at it and thought i've actually almost got rid of some of the anguish around you know some of it was just off. task because of all that you've writing both balls yeah the experience was grotesque and i thought if i published this sort of. free me in some way that would be really over and it didn't work so i sent it to the lugger of you remember the note to say i'm not sure this is any use. and then they they said it publishers and then of course everybody you know because i hadn't told people i went back to teach without telling everybody i was trying to have like a normal i was really sick we had like a normal person i was doing all my work and i was coming to be meetings but we had

no reason. so the policy of the piece was sort of father you know i also thought i was trying not to feel sorry for myself. even during his cancer treatment tobin continued to shuttle between ireland and the us he continued teaching at new york's columbia university. i love columbia university i love having a big library i love the upper west side of new york where nothing ever happens people talk about the city the doesn't sleep everything close about 9930 up there i mean it really has sleeping at the place. it's you know it looks like a university village you know and i teach on monday and tuesday and give a graduate seminar on oscar wilde and to do an undergraduate 7 are on the to say that people talk about things changing and young people not being like they were on the internet that's all just rubbish it's all just rubbish. that someone 18 year

old reading a book can actually find that in the book is that lit a fire in her or in him and i see that and i witness or. books continue to light a fire in toby and he brings that passion to his work as a writer and as a teacher. calling to bean is a man who can forever lose himself in literature even if he never forgets his irish roots. 6 feet.

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