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beethoven's 9th. for the more stores opening moves on to e.w. . this is deja vu news live from berlin britain's prime minister shuts down the nation boris johnson instructs people to stay at home in a bid to stop the spread of the coronavirus it follows pictures like this here showing that people still haven't gotten the message about social distancing also coming up a glimmer of hope in italy people are still dying from the corona virus but the death toll in the number of confirmed infections have fallen for the 2nd day in
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iraq we'll talk to the deputy health minister. i'm serious so much kind of good to have you with us britain's prime minister has announced a nationwide lockdown to fight the coronavirus for struts and told the british people that the government was shutting down non-essential shops and services and banning gatherings of more than 2 people his government has faced criticism for its perceived failure to act quickly to halt the spread of the virus. it's images like these which make it clear how quickly action is needed in the u.k. mobile phone footage of people crammed into the london on the ground on monday after train services were cut to deter people from using them and experts warn policy must change. and we can't control how virulent viruses we
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can control the rate in the population and that's what we should be doing whether that's by legislation or enforcement or otherwise because at the moment it's not working. when it's because the british prime minister has faced criticism that is wait and see policies were dangerous. now he's decided to follow the lead set by european countries and order a lockdown. we will immediately close all shops selling non-essential goods including clothing electronics stores and other premises including libraries playgrounds and outdoor gyms and places of worship will stop all gatherings of more than 2 people in public a major focus of the response to the outbreak britain's overstretched national health service the n.h.s. here volunteers bring free food for nurses at the frontline of the pandemic johnson
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says the whole country should act in solidarity with the medical professionals. each and every one of us is now obliged to join together to hope the spread of this disease to protect our n.h.s. and to save many many thousands of lives. the government is also moving to get supplies of protective gear to staff treating coronavirus patients the army will be brought in to take gloves masks and overalls to where they're needed. it's happening later in britain and elsewhere but the threat of the virus is emptying streets in the capital london the u.k. like its neighbors is digging in for the fight and let's go right to london is very good massa standing by for us there hi barry get at day one of the lockdown there what do things look like in london today. well where i am so
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me in central london normally the streets would be filled with people on a sunny day like this they would be on their lunch break but all the shops around here and all the offices are closed however there is still quite a lot of construction work going on i can hear the noise of construction work all around me and this has been heavily criticised i spoke to one construction worker this morning he said he was very scared he had to come in on the tube very in the face mosque but obviously not being able to to execute the social distancing of sitting to me to support because the tubes the trains are still very crowded transport for london which is organizing the transport in london has said they could not provide for more carriages because lots of the stuff i actually either ill or they are self isolating so there are is not a lot of short is for people who still feel the need to get into central london however it is critical about the construction there is social media trend to shut the sites because many people don't understand why they are still coming into
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central london whereas other people working for shops restaurants have to stay home because i want to ask you about the government's approach here because the u.k. was slow in clamping down on public life what prompted the government to act now. well yes initially the government explained their strategy that they thought they could somehow stagger the virus to the how people would be exposed to the virus however then they changed that tack because their own modeling had shown that they call and really be effective in that mission that if they continue to people did continue to go outside that the health service would be quickly overwhelmed or they would just wouldn't be enough intensive cabot's enough medical staff enough ventilators to go around so now they are following the european example and within a week they have been pretty stringent and have been stepping up the measures
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almost on a daily basis following the european example critics arguing that well you have the time was lost that they should have been much more stringent much a. speck of moss with the latest from london thank you. now in spain the government is to extend the state of emergency by 2 weeks the number of new coronavirus cases jumped by some 6600 overnight with more than 500 reported to have died pictures taken at a hospital in madrid show patients lying on attended in the forwarder the spanish capital has been particularly affected with nearly 10000 cases an ice rink inside a shopping mall in madrid has been turned into a makeshift morgue to cope with the surge in cases and soldiers helping to fight the virus and they have made shocking discoveries at nursing homes where elderly residents have been found abandoned some dead in their beds prosecutors have
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launched an investigation. while official figures from italy offer a glimmer of hope that lockdown measures introduced 2 weeks ago have slowed the spread of the virus now the registered death toll has dropped for a 2nd consecutive day as has the number of new confirmed infections the crisis has pushed northern italy's health system to the breaking point critical care units are filled to capacity unions in the worst affected region lombardy are demanding even tougher shut down measures to protect the health of workers many factories are still operating in the region but the government says they are essential for the economy and for more on the story we can speak to. me in rome he is the deputy health minister in the italian government mr celerity thank you for joining us here on d w i want to ask you about this report that italy is now seeing a drop in daily deaths and infections for the 2nd day in a row do you think that the worst could be over. i don't know if they were use or
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were not dolls degrees of the number or infection and this is the due to decisional it were made between the 8 and the now of march and then to the after with a lockdown of the entire eatery these means that probably we would see a decrease over the next few days i believe that probably those 2 days yesterday that it before yesterday and probably today we will see this drop and old fully will be ladies for the next few days but when is going to end this is very difficult to predict right now program you will need then 15 more days to you know to be sure that everything is over ok so there is some progress but you have to wait and see how things develop at the same time on your asking about some news that we saw today coming out of barack i'm aware mayor told the press there that actually the death toll in that region could be something like 4 times higher than
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the original figure because there are a lot of people who have died outside of the hospital without being tested so is that true i mean what can you tell us about that. i believe that day 8 that was in the american water air is due mainly to the fact that he's a very very active in loose terraria we do a lot of mormons probably they either eagles. part of their own but where there was the beginning go out and probably does very high number he's reflects the they are nominally infection that probably we didn't detect because the swab were not performed for everyone so be the number of plain fact of the people they didn't know to get the infection even because we know that 80 percent of the infection are without any any symptoms so probably the number are even i of was expected at the show you we know that these say. especially in the north where the age of
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the people is it is very high i mean anybody there is 7 percent of the population of these over 80 years and we know that people who are older and they're more friend john breaux of unfortunately you know they may die with pneumonia from the lives ok so the death toll could be higher than we even know at this moment you know and we didn't go ahead i don't know if they did that is higher i believe that . factional rate is higher and we don't know exactly the number who were infected or a day 15 more into percent 15 times more than what we have seen so that there's a need to. really grow every zazen lower to what it seemed to be mr scenario we've been looking at some pictures of hospitals what is the situation like right now for health care workers who say that they have been overwhelmed by this crisis.
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i mean you can see that a lumber. in the was distressed but responded very well now we need to increase the i.c.u. bed by 60 percent so we pass from $5000.00 there's to more than 8 hours and. when i read it was an increase in a huge increase of beds for a lung disease wards and infectious disease wards and we passed from 6000 beds to over 26. 100. 26000 sorry in this isn't was a huge increase so we are giving their son now and technology 2 to fight these war games to go and i mean it's just mr larry what is your advice to other countries also hearing in europe from your experience there in italy. 2 things should be should be done in the 1st season to lock down you you need to avoid people to google around so you need to close whatever you get close basically
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because if you see at all there is not the cd to pass the virus to somebody else and the other thing sees increase. obviously the number of bad for i.c.u. and infection this is word and this is increasing the number of doctors and increase the. price you bet say the most important thing they either think is their idea that people who. have seen tons they should be admitted they may also be lollies they are sunni or less senior but even if they have. you know. they should be controlled in the territory you know doctors this is a very. very bad disease because you if you are ok for a few days you got just fear and then some cough and then suddenly the you you may you know and this is new manya you may die if you are worse so the most important
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thing say it all and check very well. and it's just larry just quickly one more question you are the deputy health minister how confident are you optimistic are you that italy will make it through this crisis in. no doubt that we will make it i don't know i'll soon be with a few were weeks for sure we need a couple weeks to better understand how under control is the disease. but i'm quite optimistic especially because there right now you know with down the day terry that the you know date center part of either in the south part of either he has been protected so we have more than 63000 people who got the disease and the majority of the look at it in that he still does means that stopping everything used a lot it will c.b.d. to pass the virus to people to people in other parts of legally where there are small outbreaks but everything is under control especially in the center and saddam
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article be there at the very same time ok get power the severity of the deputy health minister me time government thank you so much for joining us here and have you thank you thank you. now to some of the other coronavirus stories making news around the world china's hu bay province is set to lift travel restrictions on wednesday except for the city of one han people there will be subject to limits on movement for another 2 weeks will han was where china's coronavirus epidemic started it's been under lockdown for 2 months. german chancellor angela merkel is tested negative for the coronavirus she's been working from home in berlin since sunday after learning that she had had contact with an infected doctor she will be tested for the virus again before ending her quarantine . telephone use has spiked by a 3rd in germany because of the corona virus telecoms operators say people are making more calls and speaking to each other for longer it is one sign that people
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are maintaining their social connections despite restrictions on meeting in person . all right you're watching news coming up next an update on the corona virus pandemic don't forget you can always get the latest on our website dot com for all of us here in berlin thank you for watching. the global corona crisis you can find more information online at d w dot com and on t w social media channels. how
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a run on coronavirus test kits. i'm sumi someone's gonna thank you for joining me on today's covert 19 special the coronavirus since continuing to spread also in germany convincing chancellor angela merkel that stricter containment measures are necessary until now it had largely been left to the country states and municipalities to curb the contagion an approach that has created a patchwork of rules and guidelines the new measures are to be rolled out nation wide let's hear what the german chancellor and. we have discussed today how all counter measures are working we have no vaccine and we have no drug against the disease all we have firstly the efforts we are making to prepare our health care system especially hospitals for the expected continued high rise in infections. and secondly our own behavior. that is currently most effective measure.
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the new measures medical and state leaders decided to implement ban gatherings of more than 2 individuals with the exception of families and people who live together in one household now restaurants bars and cafes and other non essential service providers must also close businesses offering food delivery and collection will be allowed to remain open commuting to work helping others and exercising alone outside will still be permissible the measures will initially remain in place for 2 weeks the new measures are one step closer to total lockdown but not there yet and germany's the strategy appears to be to ramp up the strictest of measures in a controlled way as it seeks to limit the spread of the virus and keep the numbers of severe cases manageable for the country's health system. now in other european countries there are also ongoing discussions about what measures to introduce and when some countries are focusing on the best ways to reach what's being called herd
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immunity a critical point in a pandemic when the number of people who have grown immune to the virus automatically limit its spread now for weeks the british government for example avoided implementing restrictions on wider society the goal appeared to be to allow members of the community who are considered less vulnerable to be infected in orders to reach the tipping point of herd immunity sooner but after models showed how badly u.k. hospitals would be overwhelmed in such a scenario and the potentially hundreds of thousands of deaths it would cost priorities have shifted nonetheless british prime minister boris johnson remains hesitant about curfews. a point that i think people in 2 g.b. understand about the timing of these measures you've got to impose these interventions in the spread of the epidemic the moment when they can have the maximum effect an awful lot with the editing this is hope he's pretty tall that's
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what i've been to to impose. curfews and provisions on movements and so on as if you will wait until i last until it's the right moment to do it and that's always been probably being god it's right let's bring in our science correspondent derek williams for more on this hi derek so is now the right time for britain to be implementing these measures are they coming too late well i think that most experts would say for us johnson has gotten something very wrong here starting with the use of the word and to explain the thing as epidemics like the one we're seeing don't follow into question or hunches they follow certain statistical projections which is why we're able to model that mathematically the big fallacy with this comment is that from a prevention point of view the time to impose curfews on lock downs is not when large numbers of people are getting the disease it's before arch numbers of people began to get that is that's the only way to slow it down because there's an
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incubation period new infections and deaths are going to continue to rise for at least $2.00 to $3.00 weeks even after strips social distancing measures have been imposed so we'll only see the consequences of what we do today in 2 to 3 weeks that's one of the lessons that we've learned from china and italy if you wait until numbers shoot up to react with measures then ultimately many more people are going to get the infection and it's going to kill a lot more of their convention this concept of herd immunity can you tell us more about what exactly it means and what role that plays in slowing the spread of the virus. well herd immunity is when so many people in a population are immune to an infection that effectively stops the disease from spreading there are 2 different ways that a person acquires immunity that you catch the disease and you build up an immune response that prevent you from being infected by the same bug in the future where you're vaccinated which fools the body into responding like it caught the disease
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even though it didn't but to return immunity it doesn't matter which of those 2 ways people have developed an immune response what's important is that as the number of people who are immune to the bug rises in a population it begins to spread more slowly let's say that at the beginning of an outbreak when no one has an immune and infected person gives it to 2 other people but once 50 percent of the population has acquired immunity an infected person can only give it to one other person rather than 2 that's because the other one would have been they would have given it to is already protected because they're immune so rising immunity and the herd in society as a whole puts the brakes on the spread of the disease so are there ways to actually control the process of reaching herd immunity. well most researchers i've been talking with to say it's an interesting thought experiment one that you know this idea of controlled herd immunity but it's one that has a couple of very serious flaws 1st we still know very little about about immunity
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to the virus or how long it lasts we assume there's going to be an immune to fact of some kind after someone gets over $1000.00 but we still don't know enough about that it's a it's a major risk to just allow the virus to spread when you don't know whether people could quickly get it a 2nd time then there is the question of how controlled it would all remain you know the point behind social distancing measures is to slow the spread of the disease to flatten the curve and so you have medicines and vaccines and place herd immunity can also be reached with vaccines and they don't kill people if you allow people to catch them by receiving in a controlled setting then some of them are going to die and it's far too easy to imagine a scenario where intentionally allowing people to catch the disease could spiral out of control and bring down the health system so the message most researchers are sending as i think of course we want herd immunity but trying to get it by intentionally allowing people to get sick is going to cost lives probably a lot up until we have medications and
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a vaccine as tough as they are lockdowns and social distancing are better choices what is the latest that you're seeing from researchers in the fight against the virus. well there's a story on vaccines that caught my eye and i've actually this weekend's german biotech cure back which we've been hearing a lot about in the news is so confident that its approach is going to were that it announced a few days ago that it's already broken up production of its its or and then a vaccine candidates even though the company is still in very very early testing you know if you recall we've been hearing from top built authorities that it will take at least 18 months for a vaccine that's really been for widespread use and that's because there are a lot of regulatory hoops to jump through starting with safety issues and you have questions about the fact of this it just takes time but if you're confident a product is a good chance of working you can start making doses while testing is going on they don't work out you wasted time and effort but if you do then you save a lot of valuable time who knows maybe they will see an effective vaccine but i
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mean that you're after all that would be an amazing achievement thinkers crossed for your lab and all the other companies out there trying to make it all right that some promising news there are derek williams do you have any sign thank you very much well as we just heard here in germany pharmaceuticals biotech companies are racing to come up with a vaccine for the virus and to think of solutions to take pressure off of the health care system now one german company called key had genius producing diagnostic tests for covered 19 and it's had to overhaul its operation in response to the crisis. start ferric here again can barely keep up with demand the biotech company produces molecular diagnostics equipment now including a rapid test for the novel coronavirus production has been ramped up parrot h.q. name. you know it could start side we've increased our output by more than 70 percent in
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a very short space of time. so on we're increasing production to such an extent that instead of producing $1500000.00 tests per month we'll be making $20000000.00 per month by the end of the yeah and that's one test is needed per patient martin introduced a 3 shift per day system 7 days a week. the company reacted quickly to the new coronavirus outbreak testing equipment that's been on the market since 2018 has been upgraded and can now diagnose a person for corona virus in just one hour. this rapid test is intended for use in hospitals and of our trees and it was approved for use in europe last week as nick lowe bought a house vote on ms in the us do you this is a global challenge and the situation varies from country to country especially in how quickly they recognize the virus and whether or not they acted quickly in our views of asian countries like south korea responded much more quickly than
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countries like the u.s. demand to storing all over the world and so it's a global challenge to make testing facilities available everywhere staring. he again struck recalled has also repeat the interest of other companies hoping to cash in. u.s. lab equipment microphone my fish is now set to buy key again for around 10000000000 euros right in the thick of the current crisis. shareholders have to approve the acquisition before it goes ahead. people across europe are being told to stay indoors many countries have severely restricted freedom of movement from parts of the u.s. to argentina the philippines and some countries have even declared a national lockdown in a bid to slow the spread of the virus it's a very different picture in japan coronavirus infections there have been increasing at a slow rate but experts fear that could suddenly change as the famous cherry blossoms start to appear various festivals are still set to go ahead and authorities fear
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that japan could witness a surge of new cases as people head outdoors to mark the start of spring. right thank you for watching a covert 1900 special here on g.w. we have the latest on the pandemic on our website t.v. dot com we'll be back with you at the top of the hour. after a. brain not sure i'm. john giannone is transforming people's lives by installing solar panels in new to mountain communities he's bringing electricity to places that have never had it before the last part of morocco's energy revolution for the residents of these villages talent is that some king of morocco kusa.
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