nowhere is the human cost of the corona pandemic more painfully evident than in italy more than 13000 deaths the most in the world tonight italian lawmakers are asking their neighbors for help and if the european union doesn't get this right they warn that the e.u. itself could also become a victim of the. berlin this is the day. europe has to show whether or not it's a common european house we need something close to normal economic activity we have to face and overcome and the public will challenge and the militancy that's having a destructive impact on our health systems our economies and our social systems not only will we have thousands of coronavirus. but we will also have millions of

unemployed and. we are not writing pages of a business handbook here we are writing the pages of a history book. also coming up the coronavirus has already appended daily life around the globe when the pandemic is over what kind of world will we live in will europe keep its promise to protect your data privacy these the plot from this platform is the european city ssion it conforms to data protection regulations and respects society our values and can contribute to have protection. were to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with the health crisis that has become a human crisis today the head of the united nations declared the coronavirus pandemic the greatest test that the world has faced since the 2nd world war and so

far the solutions appear bigger than any one country this is. not news to the people in italy the death toll from the virus is the highest in the world their hospitals are at their limits along with the country's entire economy unemployment is rising and more people are facing hunger the government is now distributing food but no one is kidding themselves tonight the gap between desperation and social unrest is getting smaller by the day italy's streets empty like they have been for the past 3 weeks. police are on patrol to ensure citizens only leave their homes when strictly necessary. the lockdown has altered daily life in italy and brought the country's economy to a halt all non-essential businesses have had to shut down many people have lost

their jobs or have seen their salaries cut some are now unable to afford even the basics authorities and individual citizens have stepped in handing out meals to those in need but these initiatives are hardly enough and the risk of social unrest in italy is growing the mayor of naples has warned that the lockdown can't continue indefinitely. but we will soon need something close to normal economic activity. otherwise not only will we have thousands of coronavirus duchesse but we will also have millions of unemployed it will be only. organized crime will stop and it can spend money and it can spend it faster than the government. will stop in sicily police are patrolling supermarkets after reports of shoppers refusing to pay italy isn't the only nation with a lockdown is hitting the poor hardest it might again prove to be an example of

what's to come in other countries paralyzed by the coronavirus crisis. for more now we want to bring in thomas own on the cine he's a member of the italian senate for the center left democratic party which is one of the parties in the italian government he's also a political economist mr nunn in cheeni welcome to the day our condolences to your country and all those who have lost loved ones due to the virus your country is now in its 4th week of this lockdown the economy is shut down does everyone in italy tonight have enough to eat how do you think your tax for every meal. it's really the situation is still dramatic is to say. yes to let it be. that imagines it and he has mentioned and the governments just extend the long. recessions there is. 2

days until easter until a very interesting. confident thanks to. this one over where it can see shine out. will be very evil in that we have to be. continually you know the transition after the lockdown the you tweeted earlier today that after the coronavirus pandemic there will be a new world whether we like it or not and it will depend on the choices being made today what are those choices. well we should be or be aware of that of the huge responsibility the italians and i would say european leadership is facing this morning because the effect of the choices that

you were gonna make in those difficult times will last. their fruit has. at the moment that we should be aware of the transition out of the log out of the medicines out of them and then. this doesn't mean that we can afford the eminent lock down or. a lot of moments of magic means that we have to plan in advance the cause of the. lemmings. my surprise this issue leaders but the transition that we have to plan cannot take us by surprise we have to take this engine. will. continue their work force receptor groups they stacked evenly.

with their right and when there are exceptions is that mr knowledge only i want you to take a listen to what your prime minister said about italy and the european union in this crisis take a listen. but i would like to take the opportunity to tell the people of germany that we are not writing pages of a business handbook here. we are writing the pages of a history book. when i see that we have to face and overcome and they pop culture out and in order to master an emergency that's having a destructive impact on our health systems our economies and our social systems europe has to show whether or not it's a common european house a house capable of offering a response to this apocalypse challenge whether europe is up to its tasks as envisaged by schumann adenauer to gas buddy on the now and the death. i want to

ask you this your prime minister there he is implying that something like euro bonds or corona bonds are needed moving forward are you getting any indications from the netherlands from germany that they would be willing to to change their rules and the taboos and say yes to some type of shared debt burden. my lawyer i think that was a change of the discretion and it's not up to him and sharon's instead i'll answer that again spend years which was and is difficult times we should let this discussion as a europeans i wish to discuss with different views of course because you may have on this matter more conservative or more progressive views about

a kind of europe that you have vision but we should the really had this discussion is europeans or not carrying on our common policy we need to face this crisis to address common problems with common to us. i mean to the least of european leaderships of the past i would that you just mentioned there were dead held in france from that era when those leadership decided to have a common currency 2 of the euro they didn't listen just a chorus talking. optima monetary yes they view within the. euro. piece our political structure we should do the same and this boy and a 1000000000 ask ourselves as europeans where we needed if he's got

a union that complimented him on the union which was never managed. that would be a big that would be a big change mr nala seanie you wrote yesterday in the online newspaper link yesterday you wrote that the fact that we have talian said often been masters of bad debt does not matter now or that we should own up to it how do you convince though the german government the dutch government that your past behavior is not an indicator of italy's future behavior when it comes to debt. well it interests them less while of the one you mention we should them knowledge that even though today as utopians we need to do that that too for social investment is that as it alan's in the past we've done a lot of bets that. shoot them out of that the 2nd thing is that they knew

that should be this i don't buy european institutions i'm not asking for a knockout just to pay for it and that i am asking all of the european countries to the. new bar as i do european level one to solve all together. to face together paris which will decide to get their work of the graveyard we should decide to get there what are the areas and it was that we use to face unemployment and the really in the province of our firms as are the europeans oh yeah that was my main. well i am certain that this discussion well continue mr not to say anything to moscow about

a senior member of the italian senate with the center left democratic party mr nonis jenny we appreciate you talking with us tonight thank you. and. is your smartphone helping the government train every step of the german government is about to launch a smartphone that would alert people if they come in contact with someone who has tested positive for the corona virus no studies show that this contact tracing method is highly effective against epidemics it was used in south korea successfully but will it force people to decide between public health and data privacy so far the signs are all for public help. using mobile phones to tackle the corona virus without a massive increase in state surveillance for weeks over 100 experts from 8 countries have been working to achieve this goal now they've come up with an app

that uses bluetooth technology to anonymously monitor whether other users on nearby for a certain period of time. if a user has tested positive for the corona virus other pieces who were in contact received a warning. as a free app works on a voluntary basis privacy will be strictly respected because we will on no account to use personal data or location data neither will data be saved over a long period but rather just the 21 days. germany's business friendly free democratic party is among those to back the idea. the the plot from here this platform is the european city sion it conforms to data protection regulations and respects society our values and can contribute to health protection from the finnish tap isn't ready yet and the german government says the newly announced project is just one of many options it is considering which can you know shouldn't

have to split cunts i can tell you now that the head of the chancellor's office thinks the app is promising and welcomes the fact that a cross border solution is being worked on god if it's the end. from sin yet. the project's developer say an app may be ready after easter. when my next guest tonight is olof groat he is the c.e.o. of cambrian futures and a professor at the business school at the university of california berkeley he's also the author of solomon's code humanity in a world of thinking machines it's a look into the future of a society changed by artificial intelligence there's a great welcome back to the day when you and i 1st spoke here back in may 2018 you told me that the european union passing its new data protection wall would go down in history as a game changing event is the coronavirus pandemic also

a game changing event. it's nice to be with you brant and yes coronavirus will push the e.u. to come to terms with a key tension in many ways decisions on corona seem to mirror those on additional economy in europe they seem to mostly get made locally but the cost is borne regionally as infection spread but this shows that we can't truly act as one so what we really need is one regional smart meaning you know digitally integrated health net across europe that helps track and mitigate these types of endemic says brussels proposes regulation toward a idea and accommodates all market but then decisions on execution procedures for implementation get make made locally right and those local realities are very different as we all know right so the region is too fragmented it really needs to start to look to to act as one homogenizing local rules and procedures and creating one common infrastructure you you have said that data big data is the new all it's

also a matter of life and death when we're trying to plot a course to contain this virus governments in the united states and europe they acted on the data late and now we're talking about hundreds of thousands possibly die isn't this a clear case of ignore the data at your own peril. well i think that's correct the e.u. is very advanced in regulating and protecting and debating and perfecting for a long time before acting but the time for acting has come regulation isn't a problem creating privacy enabled data pools and then building in scaling solutions really is right in terms of quickly building and scaling those solutions meanwhile thousands will be dying because europe lacks an up to date well governed and well protected in of course privacy assured digital infrastructure so europe just can't seem to make decisions fast enough to really implement these things as

quickly as change happens in the world we pass legislation and then very little else happens that we we have to stop talking and we have to start acting yeah i mean it's it's a good point but i just spoke with a member of the italian senate and he's pushing for euro bonds and getting the northern europeans to get on board with that is it's proving to be impossible for him at least at this stage one of the biggest changes in this pandemic is that many people have been sent home to work the home office concept it's really flourishing and after this pandemic many people may never go back to the office outside of their home how is our notion of work being impacted by this pandemic. well you know on one hand working from home can create more reflection time if you have the luxury of space you know you you then have possibly a greater yield of ideas and potentially even hate ovation maybe even higher productivity you know that's that's a positive however there's also downsides right for one work from home is it is

really a highly privileged thing to do many people don't have a home of their own or do you think about the hundreds of millions of people in developing countries around the world who don't or if they do they don't really have a lot of space in that space to share and then also if you work at home then there is no more room for relaxation for switching off and that too is not good for productivity and for creativity and innovation so my hope is that we're going to see new innovations come out of this around communication around collaboration there will speak to that tension enabling us and also safeguarding you know us to be human sent to to relax and to refuel when we need to in order to be more productive and that's one of my great hopes for change coming out is so you know probably you're probably not the type who does home office in his pajamas but that would be a different show here let me ask you about. about surveillance and the

the state once this pandemic is behind as you know south korea used cell phone data to successfully contain the virus we know that china is using artificial intelligence and draconian surveillance and it's being praised for breaking the speed of the spread now there's a push on europe and the united states to tap this data for public health i mean does the push like we've never seen before what do you see happening. well look as you know i am very concerned but also hopeful right. so so i'm very concerned about potentially fostering pushing what we call the surveillance economy or surveillance capitalism where we can literally get observed and measured and sensed every minute of our days and clearly we can't let that happen on the other side or on the other hand i should say surveilling when very well defined very narrow ways when it comes to public health house very tangible very material tradeoffs and benefits i

should say so we need to design solutions that give us those benefits and also respect our privacy so that for instance our movement patterns war the nature of our social relationships cannot be tracked and then handed through networks to the wrong people that requires delivered safeguards and regulations and again that's where the e.u. excels but it also requires that we give entrepreneurs and business people some guidance on how to design these use cases and how they get the benefit but also respect the human being in that germany and incidentally singapore with these new apps are taking 1st steps and i commend them but again we need to see what actually remains after we've talked about it can we actually execute in scale this. you know throughout germany and really the european union with the appropriate safeguards quickly as a safe to safeguards us the word right i mean you're assuming that the public is

going to trust the government some public institutions and that's been that's a problem right now. that's a problem and i think we do need you know some kind of certification by governance by governments that they are putting on top of these applications governance mechanisms meaning privacy safeguard audit right where experts you know under n.d.a. nondisclosure agreements can actually monitor what kind of data gets collected what kind of identifiers are in the data and whether these privacy of course is actually being respected all of that can be done we've done it elsewhere and it needs to be done here if we want the public to accept it because it's no good to have these apps if we can't scale them throughout the public through the population that's very true what good is anything if you don't have trust to go with it all off growth c.e.o. at cambridge in futures this approach is good seeing you again we appreciate your insights thank you thanks for having me but.

what should we all be wearing face masks to protect ourselves and others from the spread of the corona virus for months public health officials have said that for healthy people there's no need but that stance may be changing public health authorities here in europe and in the u.s. may soon encourage more people to wear masks and it comes when protective equipment for doctors and nurses is in short supply w.'s young philip schultz reports tonight from spain. it takes just minutes to produce the plastic brake it's needed for protective masts engineer francis could put out oh it's a 3 d. printer at home when an initiative in his hometown of seville was set up to produce masks for medical personnel he joined and right away for safety reasons we met francisco outside his apartment his family from the video inside the home he proudly showed us the model that the members of the initiative designs together the emphasis is on simplicity so that the mouth can be produced quickly. i know the

people need. the money but the air force forced social security. because of my you know my wife. she was. nothing and. i'm the world's. francisco 100 participants princeps more than 5000 masks in the last few days local police officers then distribute that the lack of basic protective gear at spanish medical facilities is getting worse about one in 10 people newly infected with the coronavirus work in health care according to official statistics. inside us describe the senate terry situation in many hospitals and clinics as shocking and why the creativity of private initiatives is impressive some. questions about the responsibility of the government why does the state seem to be so prepared for

a crisis like this and the government not to stockpile protective. while the pandemic is limiting our social lives with lockdowns forcing the temporary closure of bars restaurants and cinemas well almost all the german city of essen has a notable exception but you'll need a car to see it with a few blankets for the cold evening nicole and her daughter get ready to watch a film at the drive in cinema they're also taking some ice cream and candy along tonight a german comedy is playing. you can you understand we can go to a normal cinema and there's nothing else city in the car we don't have to worry about john's life so to go said let's go to the cinema. like nicole many people are making their 1st trip to the drive in. it's by the unique we'd never be here to get

food we would have gone to a normal cinema but this was suitable sense stead of sitting at home on the couch we decided to come here i want to maintain again well most of germany's drive in cinemas are closed the city of essen has issued a special permit allowing this one to remain open amid tight restrictions each car is limited to 2 people and their children and tickets are only available online chat please if you don't wind up and hold out the ticket in. the tickets are only charged when the window is up the stock bar and heat around to remain closed the drive in is open during all kinds of weather regardless of how cold it is. almost trying to put everything was sold out. in the midst of the pandemic movie fans are looking for a bit of normality as long as they can get a ticket. some is like back to the future when the day is almost done the conversation continues online to find us on twitter you know big news follow me a broadcast t.v. remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see

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