tv Arts.21 Deutsche Welle April 5, 2020 9:30am-10:01am CEST
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together have zogby is a film legend the german director has made over 70 felt it's ranging from art house to big hollywood productions he's traveled to the ends of the earth and peered into the depths of the human soul. he mentions that movie the most. he's created iconic characters to images in feature films and documentaries. always searching for a deeper truth his perspective is investigative and radically subjective van i have song of the adventurer. we met up with this great cinematic storyteller in munich where his story began.
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when did it become clear to you that you had to and could make films. when i was around 14 or 15 years old when various things happened at the same time which made my fate apparent to me. among them was that i would make films. that i was also a kind of poet. the. and it was always clear to me that i would do this better than others. it was also clear that since i knew little about film and had seen almost nothing i would have to invent the cinema myself. if i was.
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missing. very 1st feature film was a declaration of war on the triviality of post-war german cinema. and this anarchic surreal and disturbing drama about towards raising a riot at a correctional facility caused controversy upon its release in 1970. showing the point of view of outsiders and people on society it's fringes became helps logs trademark. in 1979 released nosferatu his all mushed f. w. moore now silent film classic much more than a remake it was his 1st big international production ignited suit and could be dirty. it could give you personally. please let me do it it's you. forget it it's hardly worth mentioning just
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a little cut. even yes i feel you've lived in los angeles in the heart of the dream factory for many years. you've said you don't really feel part of the german film scene but in the us you enjoy a cult status as a bavarian in hollywood hollywood serious or 1st. since fastens it in because if not cult status is a term you should only touch with pincers but it gets really wild when i show up in brazil for example or in russia poland ireland or algeria all hell breaks loose when i show up there with films. you say i'm part of the city with the dream factory but no i'm not part of it and i don't really belong to a german film either. i actually belong to something more regional to the very end films from the baroque and the world weary so that's why i sometimes say that apart from me. the 2nd would have been the only person able to make its car although it's
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going to do more who couldn't. fitzcarraldo is the story of an eccentric adventurer aiming to build an opera house in the amazon rain forest. fitzcarraldo was a visionary with a mission. but before that can think what. someone who is prepared to defy gravity to realize his life's dream pushing boundaries is a constant theme and hertz all this work. is indeed if you get in an extreme environments extreme situations what drives you to this day to seek out these extremes. makes they don't actually see context.
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rather i consider what i do to be normal people are always saying shooting in the amazon rain forest is so extreme. but look it's just a forest. this is more involved. katsav return to the jungle again for the vietnam war drama rescue dawn. that was a big american production but headstrong is also a nonconformist in hollywood. with the will of it's out. there. and a passion for on hinged characters. yes. you've called bad lieutenant of a very in film there so it's a wild and baroque. wilder than the wildest drinkers at october fest really goes to
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extremes and. back to the big. surely guess what full soul still dancing. you never went to film school thank goodness you don't think much of film schools why. the dissidents. i think they're completely misconceived. and basically for film students are cooped up there for way too long. for 3 or 4 years. in 3 or 4 years they could shoot 3 features instead of sitting around they're learning film theory or other such nonsense so. they can learn everything they need to know in a week. and everything else is technical. could be left to the technicians.
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here you can learn about filmmaking from veron or hertz online. storyboard. instrument of the cowards. but there's more. i found at the road film school. it was designed to be the exact opposite of everything you'd normally learn in film school. there are only 2 things i tell people they're really learned. the 1st time or pick a safety lock using a surgical instrument. and 2nd how to fake a filming permit and not get caught. in let's. switch to doing more workshops. are just as something in the amazon rain forest in peru. and in the 1st minute of the 1st meeting i said the topic of
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your film. the framework is delirium in the jungle. see what you can come up with and deliver the results in 9 days' time and some great films came out of it. again or the wrath of god was also shot in the south american jungle if the tale of the 16th century spanish comes he said or searching for. this feverish drama tackles imperialism greed and meddling mania shot in documentary style it follows a good day on its historical suicide mission. thanks. in the end klaus kinski goes mad in a scene that wrote film history. ott . well it's. a good day and later
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fitzcarraldo r.t. made headlines during shooting largely due to the unpredictable lead actor klaus kinski he made 5 films with hats on the works through their productive love hate relationship in a documentary. they don't want to talk about your new friends are or is not going to talk about it with me. it was in the 1st half of your members don't mom how did your to getting tackled by such a document but ended up was that you know. enough or was it smart enough with 0. 00 and looking to add more so i thought if you don't want to join the sport committee and i'm interested in kentucky a modern family circle so i'm going to think with these in the 2nd i know you've got this feeling. some green the last of me and dustin your star they're still actors as extreme as class kinski was. infin didn't. consider him extreme you can see he was kinski and in a certain sense he was a singular figure but he wasn't the best actor i worked with. the deepest and best
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one was bruno s. who played the title roles in costume house. i've worked with the world's best with christian bale. nicolas cage nicole nicole kidman. tom cruise it is then no one. not any one of them. ever came close to porno as is the charisma. or his ability to convey isolation and ferocity. to write this blog that was likely due to his real life as a musician she practically 23 years after starting from his childhood onwards he kept getting put away in correctional institutions and later in jail and in other places where he didn't belong. i mean my. view
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in this didn't start with that little subtly efik if he did lose a little. bit on the side it didn't mind me to think this. listening to stuff actually does least. listening to the listener sitting in. the family. there are others who have similar biographies but who don't have the depth and presence on screen that porno i stated. pales in comparison. as does nicholas cage nicolas cage and tom cruise to the top. then i had thought worked with tom cruise on the action thriller jack reacher but this time had songs did in front of the camera playing an evil gang leader. and my 1st winter. coat.
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but kept. for the frostbite could turn to dream. the housing to how did you manage to be that evil. or was it was ever lists so totally effortless work. so i didn't have to do a screen test and i knew that i could do it with come to us i earn good money for being terrifying on screen if you want to see him. but it's how many other states not. that i have saw has his own unique perspective on the world and people his documentaries also focus on eccentric obsessive types like fanatical animal rights activist timothy treadwell. i'm here with one of my favorite pairs expressed
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a chocolate iris chocolate has been with me for the grizzly man spent his summers in alaska and lost all sense of distance between himself and the bears. i will die for these animals that are. now that are all in the end he was himself killed by a bear. my mind. during after treadwell's death in 2003 hertz og followed his trail right to the bitter and . skipped and. taught film to movie traitor and so there's an audio recording of the death of timothy treadwell and his girlfriend and. you both of them were eaten by a bear eaten alive piece by bees a la you would say and the distributors and producers absolutely want to destroy cording to be in the film and so i said ok i'll listen to it. and i listened to it
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and it was so incredibly horrifying that i said only over my dead body will this make it into the film and he come to see me in film and turn it up. to must never listen to this i never heard her ever go into. i think you know you should not keep it you should destroy it yeah. it's anything she can see it since ethical boundary individually toward because the dignity and the privacy surrounding an individual's death must not be violated period period poked. yet haired zog didn't shy away from interviewing condemned prisoners
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awaiting execution for as many series on death row. as a german coming from a different historical background and being a guest in the united states i respectfully disagree with the practice of capital punishment and help me metaphor i've watched several episodes of your series on death row what boundaries were you confronted with there. when c. it's. told it's going you talk with and film people on death row with people who know that they're going to be executed in 8 days and that there's no escaping that . then of course there are certain boundaries their. respect respect dignity. due to respect the condemned person's human dignity.
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james barnes is one of them. in order to film a death row inmate you have to be invited by him in writing. i was behind the camera you only ever hear my voice and behind the camera i wore a formal suit and tie which i almost never do it was a sign i respect you with. they were always very open with you. from the very 1st moment. and that's a question of how you work as a director. you can only do that if you know the heart of men are. if you can look deep into their souls then it works. and looking at your films the boundaries between documentary and feature film are really fluid. do you still differentiate between them. sure there's a big difference which i also recognize. but i don't worry about it for me they're
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all films as film as there was ever. for you once said facts do not constitute truth per se. in this age of the internet and fake news what's the truth beyond the facts that you seek. facts can be misleading the truth is created or certain layers deeper layers are created through stylization through invention through imagination. the supposedly realistic picture often seen in documentaries is a misconception. which is why i say i invent things too because they serve the truth better than the facts. back in south america again in the impenetrable tropical rain forest of guyana against the spectacular backdrop of chi to a falls
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a mythical location for the indigenous population. this is where hats on made the white diamond a documentary about dreams and the limitations of technology. the dream of flying a floating above the earth here to help zogby dared to experiment. case we had the music 1st. so in the rain forest the camera man asked me how are you going to do it with the rhythm in the shooting center my gave him headphones and said listen. this is how we'll do it would be understood immediately. answer i think as music evokes the beauty of nature and its vulnerability. the
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scene on the type me all there were one and a half 1000000 swifts which came out of the sky in a huge swarm and flew in circular movements into their nests behind a huge waterfall. goodness and it was overwhelming. and the music is equally overwhelming. is this one sorry grace to the singers were sardinians who almost all have prehistoric voices. and they started singing with far too much energy and the meter was far too clear. so i stood up and made flying movements for them and they understood. and suddenly the movement became that of an eagle gliding from
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sri. 6 enhance og's films music itself is often a performer such as in the show of a case where else dreiser goes music brings the prehistoric paintings to life. in 2019 the vendor had thought foundation awarded a prize to reisa he was praised for creating spaces with his music that were larger than what could be seen on the screen. that is so homesick you don't dismiss your new idea he's an extraordinary visionary . 2 in the log he admitted he's able to transform an entire world with music and to transform a world of images and suddenly the combination of music and images gives rise to
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something new and different that the audience can perceive and experience in a different way. than i have socks relationship with music is a story of its own. he has also staged many operas going back to wagner again and again his 1st time was knowing playing at the by a white festival in 1907. to get a film course many of your colleagues vendors last frontier were also supposed to direct and buy rights but they shied away from doing it what's so difficult about staging wagner is that he can help operates according to different rules. from directors can't expect to use the same criteria and the same working methods as they do in the cinema that was always clear so i told the singers and the others
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that we had to forget that i were controlling i said that we had a task and that there would only be an opera when the whole world transformed into music and in music from the adult. so that some fear back to film you've been in some very extreme places in the mountains in the amazon underwater in the desert on the ice caps is there anything else that you're still seeking or that you'd like to explore more. i'd like to go to the space station or to the moon. or i'd like to make a short visit to mars if that ever becomes possible in this and from. this is
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bavaria still your home even though you haven't lived here for 20 years you're leaving soon many of my cultural roots are here my 1st language was very and i miss it actually and when i'm travelling around the world i miss the fact that i never hear bavarian dialect being spoken. ish i defend it isn't it if it. is a talk list consensus and. yes it's a cinch to its own country as it. was sunk to make this the tumbling of the earth apocalyptic imagery more than 50 years after launching his career paths august
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still seeks soul schemes on the edges of the planets. he says they plans to burst forth you can't miss what you're doing. is middle of you have been winning prizes for your lifetime achievement for 10 years now this time it's from the european film academy. how does that feel differently. so next time i mean if you distances go taste well to begin with i think it's grotesque. and of course it's a little strange because i'm still in the middle of my work and now my output is higher than it was 30 or 40 years ago but i think. last year i made 3 films. others need 6 to 8 years to do that yeah but day before yesterday i was still shooting in norway on a new film and in less than a week i'll be in mexico to continue it if you like that city. oh so much you get
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is deja news live from berlin a summer warning from the u.s. president. will be probably the toughest week between this week and next week then they'll be a lot of deaths unfortunately a lot less this as the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the u.s. tops 300000 really look at how the country is coping. with living in self isolation is one thing but life on lockdown with kids one of whom.
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