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been warned the death toll this week will be so high the trauma so deep that it will rival pearl harbor and the 911 attacks on this side of the atlantic the coronavirus rages on germany's chancellor angela merkel today saying that the pandemic is the biggest crisis that the european union has ever faced berlin this is the day. students are going to us right now i would like to see that in my opinion year at the european union is facing its biggest test since its foundation regardless of that is our populations are also facing a huge health challenge the e.u. member states are being affected in various ways we're all in the fact it's. it's a system that has shown as you might call it in some technical terms in other words everyone is equally affected and so it must be in everyone's and chants and it is
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in germany's and chest that year itch to marriage strongly and that's chess that's a whole bunch of things up of the. also coming up warnings that this week could become the deadliest in the u.s. since the pandemic began new york state governor andrew cuomo saying now is not the time for anyone to let down their guard if we are a plateau we we're proud towing at a very high level and there's tremendous stress on the health care system this is a hospital system where we have our foot to the floor and the engine is that red line and you can't go any faster because the system will blow. to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day as a week of the death begins in the united states. it's those are the words u.s.
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president double trump used to warn the country of what is expected to be the deadliest week since the coronavirus pandemic began today the death toll in the u.s. crossed the 10000 more and tonight the number of confirmed cases in the u.s. is expected to surpass the numbers in italy and spain combined here in europe it's a mixed picture spain's death toll fell today and for the 4th day in a row but in france just across the border the rate of death is accelerating and from london to berlin reporters are pressing leaders for clues as to when restrictions in lockdowns will be lifted and those leaders they are answering in unison with the message it's too early to even talk about an exit strategy. back in the chancellery after 2 weeks in quarantine and 3 negative colonel virus tests german chancellor angela merkel made her return. yeah these are students
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aren't of my not in my opinion europe the european union is facing its biggest test since its foundation populations are also facing a huge health challenge with all the e.u. member states of being affected on varying levels we're all affected. and so it must be in everyone's interest and it is in germany's interest that europe should emerge strongly from this test is up of the ablest. as merkel voiced her concerns for europe on monday how governments crisis group agree to institute a 2 week quarantine for people returning to germany from a full 10th all german nationals e.u. citizens and other longtime residents who return after several days of broad will have to quarantine themselves for 14 days there are however exceptions. including seasonal workers in agriculture. commute travelling to walk truck drivers
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delivering goods and of course medical professionals. germany also announced on monday the latest extension to its $1.00 trillion euros coronavirus crisis package a guarantee of 100 percent loans to small and medium sized businesses up 280-0000 euro rice. these middle stand companies are widely seen as the hot of the german economy i would be inside without it anyone who was economically active last year those who register turnover those who recorded normal economic activity and made a profit they can get 3 months turnover as a loan from the bank which in this case will be 100 percent financially underwritten by us that means the banks will not have to do double financial risk assessments this 100 percent guarantee means the process will be completed very
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quickly as the guns. that come. now germany's european neighbors to looking to berlin to see where the macas concerns but also turn into financial support for them are those pulling our chief political correspondent melinda crane good evening to you bill and you know we've heard the chancellor the day calling this this pandemic the biggest crisis that the european union has faced italy and spain they're struggling with that we know that there is a lot of insight you sentiment we've seen what viktor orban has done in hungary is pressure increasing on germany now to do more to help more than it normally would. absolutely it is and the chancellor's remarks this afternoon sensually amounted to an attempt to prepare germans for the idea that they will need to support other e.u. member countries even while their own economy is taking a hit as she put it germany only does well when the e.u.
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it does well and she said that we will need to see more european solidarity coming out of this crisis she outlined a couple of different mechanisms by which the e.u. can provide exceptional assistance in times of crisis that compare a century to a natural catastrophe but what she did not mention was the particular instrument that spain and italy have been pushing hardest namely the so-called corona bonds they would amount to a mutualization of debt in which stronger northern economies essentially would become partly responsible for the debt of weaker member states but that was quite noticeable in the fact that she omitted that instrument there's a taboo that remains a taboo there is a lot of talk about a possible exit strategy from the walk downs that we're seeing across europe reporters were asking about that again today in london and also here in berlin and the german chancellor she's not giving reporters what they wanted to hear is she.
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well she said she absolutely would be remiss the entire government would be remiss if they were not thinking day and night about how to lift the very tough restrictions that they have imposed and she said you can be assured that we are doing that and yet with all concern for the economic consequences public health must come 1st and will continue to come 1st and she said that while germany has made some progress in reducing the rate of reproduction of the virus the rate at which the new infections occur she said we're not where we need to be and we will not be lifting the restrictions until we are so she basically let germans know those restrictions will remain in place at least until the middle of next week and she said when they are lifted it will be a step by step process and we will be saying for some time that we are still living in the midst of a pandemic and for the time being we're still worried about the nurses and doctors
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having enough protective equipment these mass for example was a situation in germany tonight absolutely and she had a couple of things to say about that 1st of all she said we need to see greater european self-sufficiency in the production of personal productive protective equipment she also said that while germany had improved its procurement of masks and other such goods it still wasn't where it wanted to be and of course we have seen diversions of shipments of masks to this country and then finally she said that with all due consideration for the wearing of masks the fact is the key measure to take remains social distancing and she said if you do decide to use a mask be aware that it's very important to keep it clean that it's very important to change it so some very detailed instructions from the chancellor on that point is a scientist after all lindgren our chief political correspondent on the story for us
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tonight melinda thank you. well one of the most effective means of slowing in the help break is tracing the mobile phones of suspected virus carriers people who have been near that carrier could that be notified by phone that they should be tested for the virus south korea used this method to successfully flatten the curve of this level of surveillance would have been unthinkable here in europe and in the u.s. just a few weeks ago but life and death choices often result in reductions in our rights i want you to consider hungary last week parliament there citing the pandemic emergency gave prime minister viktor orbán the power to govern by decree a move away from the rule of wall it drew this comment from the european union's commission president then the member states may need. to address the immediate help. but i'm concerned certain moves
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too far and i'm particularly concerned. we will take action if necessary as we have already done in the past. and my next guest tonight says that obama's power grab is shocking but not surprising then bear was u.s. ambassador to the organization for security and cooperation in europe under u.s. president obama he is now with the carnegie endowment for international peace he joins me tonight from denver colorado it's good to have you back on the day i want to get to your piece in foreign policy about the coronavirus crew in hungary in just a moment but 1st i'd like to get your thoughts on the coronavirus situation in the u.s. right now we've got more than 10000 people who have died in the u.s. from the virus the surgeon general comparing this week to the 911 and pearl harbor attacks how bad is it where you are. well i think
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as you know there are a number of hot spots around the around the country colorado like some places in europe has a lot of ski resorts and we saw the 1st hot spots in our state develop around those ski resorts but i think all of us are trying to do a few things right now one is to support the front line workers who are you know dealing with the crisis day in and day out long hours trying to help patients trying to help people survive this obviously thinking of the victims and their families and listening to the scientists in the public health experts who give us guidance about what we can do to keep keep everybody else on ourselves safe and i think this is not a moment for coming together and people are as you said bracing themselves for one public health experts tell us will be an incredibly painful week that follows an incredibly painful week last week as we saw the death toll spike in the united states we were struck when we heard the comparison being made with 911 in the pearl harbor attacks and what struck me is that those attacks were surprise attacks this
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pandemic is an al break that gave us weeks if not months to prepare for how do you see it. i think that's right and you know there will be a time when it is appropriate and important for us to learn the lessons that can be learned from the mismanagement of the trumpet ministration in january february and even into early march this pandemic which has enhanced increased not only the human toll that obviously the economic consequences if they had taken action responsible action sooner we know that much of what we are going through could have been averted but right now i think the focus is on dealing with the crisis at hand making sure that we're getting medical equipment to the front line workers making sure that we're getting ventilators to the patients that need them etc and we will have time later to examine the failures of the trumpet ministration let's talk about your article in foreign policy you write into that the power grab or the coronavirus to as you call it in hungary last week you say it was
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a wake up call to europe and the u.s. the european union must really be sleepwalking b. because if this is a wake up call we haven't heard anything it's been rather silent about or buds are you worried about that. i am worried and i'm worried on a couple levels 1st of all you may have seen that there was an fact an e.u. statement that was signed onto initially by 13 e.u. states that it was so mealy mouth that didn't even mention the word hungary and indeed or bunz government in an effort to trolling the e.u. joined the statement because it didn't mention them and claim that it was about other folks you know the e.u. is failure to speak out in a moment like this concerns me because of the human rights consequences of what oregon has done which you've been laying the groundwork for for years now because what he's done on the cover under the cover of this crisis is it is a big setback for human rights and democracy in europe and i would hope that the e.u. and others including the united states which also hasn't spoken out would speak out
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on the human rights level the other reason it concerns me is that i think this is a moment in general that is testing the solidarity of the e.u. and as an american who believes very much that it's strong e.u. a strong europe is good for a strong america i hope that europeans are able to find the solidarity that they need to meet this moment together they need to have a solidarity on values they need to have solidarity on and confronting the medical challenge of this crisis and solidarity and confronting the economic consequences which obviously will be with us for quite a while you know you know europe you know the o.e.c.d. as you know the european union and you know that the e.u. can't kick hungary out for example even if it does things like you know get rid of rule of law replace it with a prime minister or who's governing by decree what response should europe be preparing in your opinion and when should we see that response. well they care to
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convery out but they can suspend hungary and they can impose sanctions and the e.u. has threatened and used things in the past and obviously they are appropriate in this case and they were appropriate before i think one of the points that i tried to make in my article is that well understandably there's a lot of hand hand-wringing that orbán has used the cover of this crisis to make this power into this is something that's been in the making for a long time and there have been many many folks who have spoken out particularly in civil society in hungary over the last 10 years and said look this is this is going in a disastrous directions that this was not a surprise it was a shocking power grab but not a surprise and now is the time i mean it would have been appropriate for the e.u. to take action sooner we can't go back in time but it certainly is appropriate for the e.u. to take action now and taking action is a way of demonstrating solidarity and undergoing commitment to the european values on which the e.u. is founded nato should also look at taking action in the united states should take action these power grab moves aren't happening in
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a vacuum or bonn is also and his cronies are also indulging in corruption rampant scale there are reasons for there to be the imposition of consequences where his bad behavior and for the bad behavior of the cronies around him this pandemic it's certainly it's taking up all of our attention it seems it's getting all of the oxygen in the room and some people would say it shows that democracies are not very good at multi tasking you talk about corruption should these big stimulus packages that are being passed now should they come with strings attached to prevent destruction that you're worried about. well i think there's a un to levels one domestically you know european countries and the united states are trying to figure out how to meet the enormous economic need domestically to keep our economies to mitigate as much as possible the damage that's been done to our economy and my concern is that on both sides of the atlantic there are too many people who are worrying about doing too much and too few people who are worrying
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about doing too little i think it's going to take more than what has been done on either side of the atlantic and so there will be a need for more more injection of stimulus into the economies on both sides that land it and as we do that obviously we went to a fast as we can and as well as we can make sure that the money that we are using to try to mitigate the economic damage is going to the purposes we allocate it to and isn't being used to line the pockets of cronies and you know there are there are a number of ways to do that you have to do that domestically i think the next phase of this is likely to be the enormous need for industrialized countries to come up with the kind of assistance that the developing market is going to need in order to this crisis and its aftermath and as we do that we should certainly be paying attention to the fact that injecting you know one economy creates rampant opportunities for her option especially where corruption already exists then i'm going after the program we should put. out of time dan baird joining us tonight
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from denver colorado dan we appreciate your insights thank you. one of the most effective or if you are in a city or country under lockdown restrictions you know it changes everything especially at home our relationships can suffer especially those relationships with the people closest to us in the w.'s social media series on living in la we take a look at how to make ourselves comfortable when everything's too close for comfort . last week i had. it with my flatmate because greening that i was about talking about the salad bowl and i'm not the only one having problems wristbands published ration is all well in walls in the long run it's not a health food we were. just lashing out on me. i like to take it out on him and we were to have been hearing a lot being cooped up together the potential for conflict is high very high you've
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probably heard about the divorce number of biking in china so if isolation can lead to challenging and in some places a big stream situation so i took a couple of the families around the globe about how they are handling with tuition and then offer a couple's therapist how to best go with being boxed in with other people on the ground it's featured in a doc is the reason appropriately named couples therapy. one force happening right now is that we are confronted with differences and they see couples kind of falling into very kind of intense fight about difference and difference in coping style or difference in view i think respecting difference respecting boundaries is key. so i'm advising people to. really create very artificial boundaries
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and stick to them like dogmatically play. set a timer if you need to be if you can't literally be in separately i'm sorry hold on one second guys. for example someone intrudes you say that now. your family was like you're a family member and i told them you cannot grow up in. you're really rigid about it and the rules can be very simple like what my friend ellery does you've got to set an hour and we have a rule that one person has their head around them and like to talk to me more. like simple it's an emergency does not mean that it's you you know your husband is not spending time with your deal but you should not spending time with you but you don't love you as much and just. that. space is luxury i'm going to because i live in a big apartment with my flatmates but
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a lot of people all across the world don't have that luxury they have to be imaginative and creative. if you are for example in a particular mood or you're struggling with a particular issue it's very easy to call your partner in to play a role in your own internal drama and now it's kind of prime time for those kind of dynamics so the 1st week i felt very cooped up and was very restless and. i would like take it out on camera and we were kind of figuring a lot because i felt super and happy to kind of listen to the music of that and not buying into your own story and kind of pull back from that and move into like the melody of like we're in this together i had tried to channel that in
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a more healthy way so i've taken up a lot of hobby. i realized i just need things to occupy right i was lashing out online i was known. to leave some sense to build and now there's a rhythm to everything that you're doing. but it is also true that during stressful times underlying conflict can boil over and turn violent domestic violence rates have gone up not only in china but also in europe and elsewhere greater williams as a domestic abuse survivor herself and a women's rights campaigner in the u.k. i can just put myself back in the league with a domestic terrorist because that's what they are. you know at least 10 no i could get 8 now some breathing space but none of these victims i was no in luck to him so they are in a prison and there's a massive terrorist so when is it going to hike. to
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a massive mark which few feet perhaps your neighbor might be experiencing massive violence next door you know perhaps or not the door you know with the with it into need to distance you know and ask in 17 are right too many victims i was watching this is a moment to help please make the call you should be able to dial in and report a message instead. each country has different help hotlines and organizations many of which are trying to ramp up their capacities during the crisis is calling is too risky you can also contact many of them digitally. but thankfully this situation could also be a new opportunity for relationships i think people also have the capacity to work through things that otherwise they wouldn't want to it's a particular moment in time where we're not embedded in our everyday lives that we have the capacity to think bigger and to understand things on
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a bigger scale this is the reason why it's going great. yeah because we have time to talk more about stuff so i think that this will be this will help us. to understand it try to better. yet i have i have no situation where on day 3 of the call with my flatmate. i got in a screaming match. for the 1st time in my life. can she just predict with you what happened tell me you probably had like a screaming match you were each like shocked at the state you got into and then you came out of it better than ever. went back. it was an overreaction for.
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humanity is in a moment where it's being tested and it's our chance to show our best selves to each other the option to go through something together is is huge being able to see that rather than just take it for granted is profound i think we've come close it is not spending so much time with. your lives. but i'm happy with my family even i am happy that these are the people pointing the way i can best be . going like we're there just to get it together and. most of the time. there's almost on the conversation continues online and we will see you tomorrow.
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