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her. until now you see so you got that emotion has a meaning or soul. an exclusive report from a destroyed city. philippines in the sights of i.a.s. starts may 20th on d w. this week for the 1st time since the coronavirus pandemic began some countries such as austria will begin easing restrictions others such as france and britain are extending theirs into may tonight a world weighing its options commerce contagion health or well where's the balance is there about. this is the day.
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just. ignored that. if we keep priority unconditionally to. while neglecting the environment it would virtually mean the death of the paris of cool. i'm pleased to report we do see all the indicators moving in the right direction moving down together but we've got a lot more to do to keep that progress going to get to the point where we might be able to ease some of the restrictions to encourage everyone to work together and this. is the problem. also coming up it's spreading and it's dangerous i'm talking about fake news and faults information about the corona. moment there was a belief that. would be able to get rid of the virus people started to say that you
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should start taking the drinking. and that's going to help. so they prescribe the drug. effect and that was completely false information. viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we be. in the day with a question if you observed it how was your easter weekend we now know what a major holiday looks like in the shutdown lockdown coronavirus world we live in at the moment there was silence from san francisco dissolves burg on sunday and an easy a natural law and now comes the clamoring calls for an end to travel and work restrictions this week some countries will begin leaving the walk down austria will become the 1st european union member to start reopening nonessential businesses in shops it is
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a different story however in france and in the u.k. with new cases and deaths from the coronavirus in both countries some of the highest in the world paris and london say it is simply too early to ease up at all here in berlin chancellor angela merkel she is weighing the options for germany the current lockdown is scheduled to end this coming sunday should it be extended well today the country's national academy of sciences said no not completely in its report the academy recommends gradually reopening primary and secondary schools across the country the report says that schools could soon be followed by shops and restaurants with one important condition table should be positioned to comply with social distancing the academy also recommends that people wear face masks in public places for additional protection and the economy warns that these reductions in restrictions should only occur in conjunction with nationwide testing for the virus
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they give a big yes to testing and they give a nod to some data surveillance the academy says g.p.s. data collected from our mobile phones could be used for that very important contact trace. earlier we spoke with claudia these and one of the academics who contributed to today's report. it's not just a health problem it is an economic of that we can't ignore that we do have to. deepen our efforts to to to work together to to try to solve this particular situation we have to better eisley for example. people who are infected for that when i need it but it datta so we need a doctor scientist to model these particular situations we need the support of the public who voluntarily give. for the smiles and well
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to encourage each and every one to work together on this problem we can't just treat it is as a problem of the health care system it is much more than that it was claudia these i'm on speaking with us earlier that report will be one of the considerations this week is german chancellor angela merkel begins consultations on whether or not to extend the current walked out restrictions to talk about that i'm joined tonight from stuttgart by dr stefan caliph when he is a german politician member of chancellor angela merkel's c.d.u. party mr hellman it's good to have you on the program what do you say should these even want down restrictions should they be loosened here in germany. yes everybody of us are curious waiting floppies we call it and see it's a very balanced report of the national academy of. suggestions are very nice
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it's a science based. science based. of good politics and i think the suggestions are route to start and into the lock down the restrictions and starting to report it into schools for example into the secondary school not into kindergartens because it's more difficult there to keep distance between the children so to start primary and secondary school and also not in the higher school level because they can do it by themselves for digital learning and that's one of the one of to this day give to us and chancellor on wednesday to get to be just 8 presidents of the states will take the decision stand what to do but i think it's a very good basis for the further development in tony mr government do you think that the decision made this week will it be made solely on the science the data that you're talking about or or what about the attitude and the feeling of the
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people of the german people do you think that they are growing tired and fatigued of this lockdown. the polls say something different 80 to 90 percent. this is a lock down and all of what we decide to do so do i think it's a necessary florida protection of to help the people so we started to discussion about economical. particularly the consequences of to look down to most of the people of the. government and all that they decided to get out and now we have to see what we can losing in. pollen sent i think it's very good don't you have a very strong scientific advice if it's times and it also shows that it's very important to have researchers that have liked it well enough to give us a good advice from those of the chancellor and to execute the port they came out
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today mr calvert also advocates using. our data from our smartphones to try to track people are germans concerned about this type of surveillance do you think that this is maybe opening the door into a surveillance state of the future. yes we have a debate and for true if you look on h.b.o. and south korea for example had a lot of success with don't miss it but we have to discuss it in chumley a little bit different and so we say it can be a duty to use the system to use these apps but it can be. you can be. on a. yes and then i think it can book also in show we developed a good at. least. yes the controlling you know being but it would be
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a duty i think that surprised. also a political field mr come you know the entire world has been looking to germany in this pandemic because the mortality rate is so low compared to your neighbors compared also to the united states and asia but also the adherents to the restrictions of this lockdown has also been high how do you explain that why are germans willing to obey a the lockdown in comparison maybe more so than their neighbors here in europe why is that. yes i think people will see that all what we decided to do a lot of a lot of those. things we do for the health system. successfully we have around $3000.00 deaths that's a lot less than in other countries and i think we started to lead to test and also to protect people. that we are not quite the at the moment you know the
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countries vice death rate higher there but. you can see the population in germany in accordance with the government did a lot all right mr funk have been a member of the german parliament joining us tonight from stuttgart mr governor we appreciate your time tonight thank you very much. the united states is the country with the most confirmed corona virus cases and deaths it took less than 2 months for the corona epicenter to migrate from china to italy to new york in that time u.s. president donald trump repeatedly downplayed the severity of the outbreak despite being warned several times in january of a potential pandemic now trump is taking responsibility for leading what he calls america's best response to the virus and he does that on live television every
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evening when his coronavirus task force holds a press briefing at the white house now the conservative wall street journal has criticized trump for turning the deaths of thousands into a campaign rally during those press briefings i want you to take a listen to what happens when reporters pose critical questions that do not fit trump's narrative of the pandemic. i'm really happy with the job we're doing and i'm glad that this team and me are here for this horrible thing i mean it's a number of people have said it but and i feel it actually i'm a wartime president this is a war where you say you americans are watching you right now who are scared i say that you're a terrible reporter that's what i say. it was it were just a it's a very nasty question and i think it's a very bad signal that you're putting out to the american people i have a big decision coming up. and i only hope to god that it's the right decision but
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it will be based on. the input from a lot of very talented talented people very smart people and people that love our country thank you all very much thank you well much has been written about the u.s. president's combative cantankerous character and his penchant for profane insults of others the president's mental health has also become the subject of concern 27 americans like high interests have even offered a book entitled the dangerous case of donald trump in which they ask does trump's malicious narcissism make it impossible for him to distinguish between right and wrong well for more on that subject i'm joined tonight by professor isabella whores or callers she's director of psychiatry and psychotherapy at the charedi hospital here in berlin dr hoy's it's good to have you back on the day we should let our viewers know that there is a rule known as the goldwater rule which prohibits psychiatry's from giving
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opinions about public figures without personally examining that public figure with that in mind how significant is this book by 27 of your american colleagues. well i have read that book and i thought it was very insightful and of course it's significant if 27 of very well known very respected a psychiatry has a strong 1st rate medical schools and university put together a book like that this is food for thought food for thought and you know we want to say we're not trying to get a diagnosis here but we want we are seeking an understanding of what we see and hear from truong you specialize in narcissistic personality disorder long before he became president don't trump was labeled a narcissist what do you see and hear when he speaks country we're going to be
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meeting with. everybody. can just tick the boxes on the d.s.m. i.v. criteria for a narcissistic personality which is order and then count how many of these 9 great here we have trump fulfills and it's actually an pretty easy exercise now of course. nobody has. as i know of has actually examined him and so you should not make a diagnosis and i think that's a very valid statement and i wanted it here to to to the goal of what a rule of course we bought. said that said is that we know a lot of trouble i mean he is probably where arguably one of the most outspoken open presidents there is he displays every aspect of his personality so we don't really have to examine him in person if you will we can
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just watch his. public appearances and just from reading the books those people who have. it says with experienced. those who have lived together with him those who have worked together with him with him so we have so much nation about him that it is probably. down in middle high able to say that there is some problem with his personality. i mean it does make a difference when we're talking about a private figure or even a pop culture figure compared to the u.s. president the most powerful person in the world and if we accept that trump is a narcissist in the white house does that change the calculus for mental health experts in the u.s. do you think do they have a duty to speak out about this. well let me 1st
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clarify i mean if a narcissist many people are narcissistic they're benign our system we all might have a narcissistic streak in us that aren't people who are on t.v. or have to go in front of cameras every day so that is nothing bad that is that is that it's all right that is fine but when you are talking about a narcissist with that you know a personality disorder that is that is not so fine and that is a mental disease or whatever which isn't that obvious. for all a persons it is difficult to grasp that that concept that there is a mental disorder in somebody who is sole noxious estate but. when it when you're asking me. does it make a difference weathers you or i are not resist or whether it is trouble i bet it
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does. you know the president has tweeted about how good the t.v. ratings of his press briefings have been you know at the same time thousands of americans are dying from the coronavirus this this whack of empathy you're insensitivity does that play into a narcissistic personality disorder if it does that it's one of the criteria and it's one of this kerry wants and one thing that we should all really be worried about really worried about i mean i was shocked when i heard him say that his ratings are better and what the bachelor are football game or something i mean that is really such a. such just. lacked a tendency that is. horrible. we're going to have to leave it there dr isabella hoyer collier joining us tonight from berlin as always for your we
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appreciate your time and your valuable insights thank you you're welcome. with the corona virus is dangerous to our health but so too is faulty information about the virus as part of the w. social media series on living in a locked down we look at ways to identify and stop the spread of false information on 19. we have not just fighting and we're fighting i mean for demi what she's talking about is a rapid global spread of false information during my research i came across 3 types of fake news and misinformation regarding the coronavirus number one was wrong health which was to be honest sometimes pretty weird for a moment there was a belief that eating garlic would be able to get rid of the virus people started to say that you should start taking into drinking mortar and that's going to
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help you kill the virus so they prescribe a drug. take effect and that was completely false information number 2 was false information about the origin or the spread of the virus. was. thought that the europeans brought it into the country and that it was not going to affect anyone other than white people at 1st and the 3rd one was general false rumors about the severity of the crisis so many of these are real photos and videos but they're taken completely out of context this video claims to be taken in the us this year but it's actually a move to mexico in 2017 some of them are just so outlandish but then this go on a crisis situation it's sometimes really hard to distinguish between something that's true and something that's false so how can we detect and stop the spread of fake news and misinformation a former cia analyst and
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a fact checker from buzz feed will tell us. what we know about this and this information is that it works because. fear monger. it really plays on people's instincts to pass a law that you know all the media. are sort of in a situation where our brains are sort of shut off that critical thinking. part that makes us stop when we see information stead of having that instinct i have to tell everybody in my life but i just learn to say ok maybe instead of searching. and see if there is correct information available misinformation me accidentally wrong information this is a mission a fake it's intentionally wrong information meant to manipulate 1st can be found on social media or on fake news sites or passed on by a group chat by family or friends.
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simply ask questions of your friends where did you get it and then you'll start to see you know that person got it from someone else who probably got it from somebody else and probably you know got it from somebody out you know quickly realize ok that's a brimmer that's not fairly accurate information a lot of the times you get the sort of authority referenced in there seen before passing and you just go to the website of the authority and if it's not available on there who channels you should just take a step back and say you can even this is not good health. what you think about mean so. that style of sharing information and. text on an image is probably the most hazardous we share information that there is and that's because there's just absolutely no we you're getting the full picture you're
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completely lacking context you're completely lacking sources and so i would say that if you're seeing it i mean trying to pass on information about a brother is in any way just don't. factor him are going to reasons are a great source of information and they're an unbiased 3rd party of the most part person that we're called the international. accredited obra. a good fact checker around the world to be able to look at these fools who think. differently which is in different regions. so that if you super easy online tools you can use to detect fake news my favorite is google reverse image search the person posting these pictures claims they were taken in italy you just right click on one and go to search google for image it already says venezuela bowling balls on the streets and you can see
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a lot of fact checking sites have deep this picture done this so many tools but just to name 2 others as examples there is a bottom of top or the bottom meter where you can check whether a twitter account is a bottle out and then there is news gardner which is an extension where you can see whether a website is trustworthy are not. the baskets of advice really is like do not insta share anything just take a breath stop you now because it is that sort of like emotional reaction that is obviously you know it's very very understandable that we are feeling it but that's what gets us into trouble obviously passing on bad health advice can have direct and dangerous consequences but spreading other types of wrong information about the virus can have less immediate but broader implications a lot of the most of this information that we see. has spawned
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a lot of research. and a lot of heat and that's a global phenomenon. the exact perfect time for a country that wants to leverage something like high emotions tracks and a lot of conflicting information out there to push a particular political agenda. your grandma like my grandma is telling you to. you know a lot of early you can say yes. but this will lead to serious were it can be carried even if you have no symptoms which girl it is not going to help it and be really patient and trying to explain to the best of your ability maybe providing somebody a fact check saying hey this isn't actually true you might not convince everybody but it might stop it from spreading just a little bit more and that's where if you feel like i'm going to take out the other episodes of half time in this together. valuable
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information of the day is always done the conversation continues online to find us on twitter either of you news you can follow me at brant go off t.v. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we're going to leave you tonight with the italian tenor untrainable cheli and his unique voice from inside milan's closed because the role yesterday on easter sunday. seeing. a. cause.
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this is g.w. news winds from berlin tonight the question before much of the world is now the time to start lifting the coronavirus walked down here in germany with the easter holiday weekend now over the country's most prestigious science academies recommending a start to lifting restrictions also coming up no lifting of the walk down in france french president emanuel macro and extends his country's restrictions for another month and he tells the french they'll have to.

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