tv Made in Germany Deutsche Welle April 16, 2020 8:30am-9:00am CEST
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we're going to come straight hard thanks to our c.e.o. you recorded the money dealers in the marsh who are injured on. the move to belong to their final resting place the russians d.w. documentary. i. want to take to be successful let's see a good education for sure good not pleasing looks it can do any harm if you're well spoken to ideally in more than just one language yes i think those things could lead to success but there is one major hurdle hugh have very little influence over and that's your social and ethnic background an equal opportunity that's our topic
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today on made in germany don't fool yourself the old fashioned class system still exists in germany it might not be as evident as an england where the elites can easily be spotted by sending their kids to eton but trust me money and pedigree counts for a lot in germany too kids from wealthy families have better career opportunities if only because they have better contacts to people who matter people who can pave the way into company boardrooms of course there are exceptions to the rules they're few and far between but we met someone who made it despite not fitting the elitist bill . it doesn't but there are 1000 people taking the big decisions in this country. sociologist michiru hartman has conducted extensive research into elites and more specifically germany's business elites the captains of the dax listed corporations lots of men just
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a single woman most come from upper or middle class backgrounds. for almost half a century 4 out of 5 c.e.o.'s and supervisory board chairman have come from the top 4 percent of society nothing has changed but there is one or 2 percent from decade to decade. why is background and upbringing still so important. to me i was 8 when his family came to germany from turkey he was best of his year in high school and with the help of scholarships became the 1st in his family to go to college most of his fellow students were the sons and daughters of german a snappish meant families. and they have no end of advantages by comparison financially they tend to be much better off their careers profit from their families networks and they grow up with the hobbies and interests of their respective classes. but what if you come from another place.
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i don't see it as a weakness i think that's the main danger for a lot of people believing they're not good enough or can't keep up. as i try to stress no one is better or worse just different thought of. the stop the trick is to stay true to yourself and find your own way of getting on in the system. but getting on in the system isn't always easy for children who come from a working class background or an ethnic minority. experts say becoming an executor . it has less to do with merit than the so-called similarity principle. similarity means that for decades these are actual populated by men from the top 4 percent of society they speak the same language and watch their grama they recognize each other by their confident presence and body language so when making appointments the
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boards are basically looking for someone similar only 20 years younger. so is similar enough to the elite. that's recently a friend of mine said from your achievements and the things you talk about i know you're super smart. but some people who don't know you might 1st think who is this guy. from the kind of background where a university degree and a doctorate or if they were young usual but saddest is determined to get ahead. fastest and would incorporate upward mobility. so that people who have the impression on the draw you have the opportunity to have access to all those things in their lifetime. the chances of going far still unevenly distributed across europe and elsewhere and the elites are often far
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removed from the everyday concerns of most people. many of them have never faced the problem of finding an apartment to rent nor that parents have a different appreciation of standards of living for them as normal is a luxury for others and we did a study a few years ago which showed that the rich and wealthy a member of the elite as i don't know fair they consider the disparities in society will give back to the finns i do wonder if he did because there are. people who have a lot are therefore more likely to be happy with the status quo in the ivory towers that they inhabit. some born with a silver spoon in their mouth with top jobs falling into their laps others who are equally as clever can get a foot on the career ladder apart from your social background ethnic origin can also influence your career opportunities what's it take to still get a fair chance it'll be used on the chin the loo has
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a very personal interest in this topic and here's what he found. and now. here is the information a german employer would get about me. i'm a journalist the dortch of ela in berlin and i'm black and african in case you're wondering. after 12 years in germany i'm still surprised that data on ethnic origin and race isn't something german employers normally record but race and ethnicity can still play a role in whether you get hired. a foreign sounding name can already be a barrier and german employers typically expect a photo along with a job application so what you look like and your perceived race or ethnicity influences your chances of getting a job. german companies recognize that there's a problem with just what are they doing to reduce bias in recruitment. one of the
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country's largest employers says it's made diversity part of its core strategy. parader georgia baan employs more than $200000.00 people across germany the company's diversity managers says they only recruitment system helps them to be more objective. but what happens when humans are not computers are involved. up next of all. where to start testing a new measure that will run during our diversity week. test it will be a kind of blind audition process blind auditions become once the 1st will remove all personal data from the job application s. it's. for the blind auditions the recruiters will sit in one video conference room and sits in the candidates will sit in a different conference room or the recruiters will only be able to hear the candidates not see them. but the candidates will be able to see the recruiters.
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zied the always fair and oh well that's a bit like the voice. yeah. but you can still tell a lot from a voice and an accent several major german corporations have adopted diverse we try to do when we think here and that has helped them hire people from different nationalities and different cultural backgrounds but race and ethnicity remain a major problem when it comes to workplace discrimination. a survey by germany's anti-discrimination agency shows that one in 3 people who reported workplace discrimination said it was because of their ethnicity or race the berlin based citizens for europe says more needs to be done to understand how race and ethnic origin affect people in the labor market here in the u.k. is a step ahead 2 years ago the british government published its 1st race disparity audit the report revealed significant pay differences among various ethnic and racial groups and their white british p.s. according to official u.k. statistics in 2018 month nordic groups burnt nearly 22 percent less on average than
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their white peers in london by the country's ethnicity pick up as widest. that's why calls to require companies to report ethnicity paid a growing louder. wage. truth is that. watching me. they should could. they could huge. guy. thank you. all right thank you very much things are moving far too slowly when it comes to
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diversity just 29000 and discrimination based on ethnicity or race is still very much a reality in the u.k. germany and elsewhere and it also affects us in the workplace. i have learned a lot while working on this report but i'm not convinced employers are doing enough to prevent discrimination based on that and race if your ethnic background and the color of his skin determine the opportunities how migrants fairing germany is the most popular destination for migrants here in europe that should be good news for a country which struggles with a massive shortage of skilled workers so who are the people who come to germany in search of a new life and how are they getting on in their new home here are some facts and figures. migrants in gemini the facts. is gemini the most popular european destination for immigrants yes it is one in 4
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german residents has what austerities here and immigrant background that means at least one parent was born a foreigner. how does germany rank internationally in terms of numbers of migrants in 2nd place behind the u.s. traditional immigration countries like canada australia and switzerland all lag behind germany and most of the migrants refugees you know in 2017 most migrants in germany came from romania poland and bulgaria syrians were in 4th place the most common motive for the move better economic opportunities do they all find work you know of the roughly 2300000 unemployed in germany almost half have a migrant background their unemployment rate is twice as high as that of nonimmigrant why is that 6 the most common reason lack of german
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language skills the other reason is discrimination applicants with turkish and arabic names have a worse chance of landing a job candidates with the same skills but with german names have a much higher chance according to studies on migrants welcoming germany yes and no 52 percent of germans think there are too many migrants. but 65 percent say that migration brings economic benefits. is the term immigrant backgrounds problematic yes the definition is inconsistent in german statistics it generally includes 2nd generation immigrants in other countries such as britain and poland it's usually only foreign born that is 1st generation residents who are classified as migrants.
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here it you i have many colleagues with a migrant background cultural diversity is viewed as a big advantage an international media but in many other sectors employers are more cautious to hire and promote someone who appears to be different now my colleague milty edition it caught up with an educational research to find out more about the factors that keep people from going up the social ladder here in germany. yes i am a model for and my father was a janitor my mother a social worker both born in greece i've become a journalist i'm here at arsenal book university to ask why some people climb the ladder some don't. i'm about to hear how difficult it is for children from disadvantaged backgrounds to advance in germany the expert i've come to meet as. an education professor here who studies social mobility. when you look at how children are
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encouraged starting in the family you find all kinds of extra curricular activities like music lessons or language tutoring and the like are used to very different extents the more privileged the parents are the more they take part in search activities while disadvantaged families make less use of them. i was lucky that my mother encouraged my talents outside school until i graduated from high school with . the university qualification more and more working class children are attaining that these days but often that's the pinnacle of their education and. when working class children manage to finish high school with an a b. tour a university entrance qualification chances are they won't go to university for 2 reasons 1st they don't have enough confidence in themselves it's too uncertain or they've already gone further than someone from their background might be expected to so then they're more likely to feel that's enough it also depends on how
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ambitious they are. graduated from university but back in the 1990 s. there were fewer graduates than there are now that was good for my career there wasn't as much competition. currently nearly half of all college aged children go to university. so it's hard. have young people have a bachelor's degree. it's not worth much anymore it's worth something of course but it doesn't necessarily help career wise because there are so many people who have one so what do you need if you need a helping hand you need good social connections. in germany we have gender quotas to ensure more equality should we also introduce quotas for children from socially disadvantaged families to enable them to advance socially what do you think. it's not
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a bad idea if you want to guide things that way then what would be good would be a hybrid not a quota but a combination of distributive justice and rewarding merit that's long been a way of promoting women for the same qualifications the female candidate should get the job. if. you are what your parents have given you that seems to apply worldwide parental influence is decisive for children's future careers. hundreds of force come out as you see that everywhere where studies of being carried out here in germany there's a lot of inequality in terms of education and also when it comes to the job market and top posts. in the scandinavian countries there's much more per me ability and then there are a couple of interesting cases in countries such as vietnam or china where it's tradition that positions are not because we thought but it's ability that counts license aren't going to amount to gobble if you want to recognize talent and
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potential it takes time more than the classroom situation can offer. our educational institutions here are not well adapted for that instant so one mistake would offer. to give all children a fair chance as the educational experts there have to be more full time schools with tutors and social workers where talents can be discovered and nurtured deficits compensated and social behavior improved no matter what i mean if my mother hadn't pushed me maybe i'd be a waiter or have a low paying job in a factory so thanks mom. germany office high living standards and attracts immigrants from all over the world but these can be tough for foreigners to settle here deal with all the red tape find a home and get a job and then there's the language and customs and figuring out what makes germans tick but some manage to overcome such obstacles like maliki just mati who fled
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syria and started a new life here in germany or. who came from mexico and now runs a bar here in germany and there are more such examples take a look. i studied automotive design and i wanted to work for walks for. you my grades because you're looking for a better opportunity. to put you can't tell me you learned so whether it's. i will make everything for this place as it's my home. edward comes from south korea from costa rica cleo from mexico i'm like a from syria. they each came to germany for different reasons but overall major life for themselves here. at the beginning it was tough the most pressing issue was to find a job. was
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a bit. different but i suspect that no one takes you seriously at the beginning right and especially if you said i came with this background and i work here and we're there you can have your contacts back home but here you don't know anybody and it's hard for your rivals to get a vote in the door of the german labor market at woodbury has a work visa for professionals he studied automotive design in the united states and always dreamed of working for a german all to make and he did indeed get a job at folks. but the job didn't turn out quite as he typed my vision for. design and where the company was kind of going was. it was a little bit different so trying to. adjust to that was kind of difficult i was just doing my thing and hoping that being would be accepted but so many times i was
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not the case and eventually he started over and opened an asian meal kid's store and balin each kid contains a recipe and all the ingredients for a tasty dish which you just have to cook at home. i was living in a kind of a bubble but since i started my business. the local people i mean i know many of my customers by name. and feeling a lot more integrated to to to the community here. do you foreigners who want to live in germany need a work visa or residency there are various pieces depending on country of origin education and personal situation in germany provides a lot of opportunities in terms of bees are for people to talk to get a job here. and them area alvarez man hey came to germany 3 and a half years ago she was married to a german so getting a visa wasn't a problem she studied law and worked for the finance ministry and public relations
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firms in costa rica but here she couldn't find a job. so she set up a platform called migration hope it provides support for migrants asylum seekers and refugees. what we want and what we aim is basically to support their livelihoods whether in the patient or employment and entering our ship most importantly is that microphone have an opportunity. the entrepreneur wants to change what she sees as a widespread perception that migrants are not just competent astronomers even when they're just as qualified. we need to change this narrative on that we are whatever we are doing. because we're my friends we're not doing that in the germans are we are even harder because we have to do even the be from language and get support. because we need to make sure that that works. moving to
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a new country involves finding somewhere to live and making a higher. many challenges. me on my baby and my has been. really been one group i'm looking for. the civil war in syria where she had studied political science and literature. she started cooking more or less by chunks. of this place it's like syrian home to put lots of. culture. in a touch and might. she 1st. and meanwhile her own restaurant. nothing in my life. nothing and also nothing it's impossible. along with work founding a company and finding
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a flat there's also the language to. me my german is totally. forgotten it all so international and everybody speaks english and mark job doesn't help either because even the germans here speak spanish. it's love. from mexico city he's a graphic designer but his career here without having mastered the language is hard if not downright impossible. my job consisted of talking to clients and developing ideas with the moment here because i don't speak german. my talents were of no use. but are not. as anyone who's ever moved to a new country soon finds out things don't always go to plan expecting the unexpected is a good rule of thumb. or one thing however surely translates
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across various cultures you can only make one 1st impression when applying for a job for instance make sure you dress the part that means wearing the right outfits now some have what tasted than others granted but whenever in doubt just ask our very own head if us. there comes a day in the life of every young man and when his father takes him to the side and says you want to have your 1st job interview. you need a suit. but so many boys these days grow up without their fathers playing a role in their lives so my producer said go tell them what to do 1st of all don't let your mom buy it. put some of your own money into it it's an investment in your career it will pay off. i know you're thinking about buying a black suit don't do that you're not going to
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a funeral go navy not that navy blue dark blue like this one the style easy single breasted 2 buttons low about don't button your shirt will be white or blue no stripes no patent no discussion shoes are very important you're at least 18 years old now also by decent pair of shoes and get a haircut for crying out loud. and unless you're interviewing at an internet start up do not go without a tie let it be plain that the stripey not as crazy as this one you can go crazy once you have the job. all right i won't go crazy until i. derive sydell from the show just to play it safe that's all for mate this week on of the next time and remember you can watch the show again on our website and check us out on concert with me in the team thanks
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