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to get on with it we are currently at a transmission rate of one meaning gone past an infected one of the past and. soon of india that if we get to the point where one person in fact 1 point one office then by october our health care system move each capacity then b.f. it's. like trying to send. the limit in july. by 1300000 it is in june so you can see how little room we have to work with. also coming up tonight a special report from war torn yemen where soldiers and civilians now fear a fever just as much as they fear their phone. officially there's only one case of covert 19 in yemen in reality there may be many more that's bad news for this

troubled country. but to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with a meeting of g 7 leaders and the very different accounts of what was said today the u.s. hosted the video conference of leaders from the g. 7 group of industrialized nations later in a statement the white house in el. that the g 7 is calling for a review and reform of the world health organization and here is part of that statement g 7 nations contribute more than a $1000000000.00 annually to the world health organization much of the conversation centered on a lack of transparency and chronic mismanagement of the pandemic by the w.h.o. the statement goes on with leaders called for a thorough review and reform process of the organization as you see it right there . that does not confirm what other g 7 members are reporting the german

chancellor's office saying that until americal defended the w.h.o. in today's call the european union also issued a statement with no mention of the world health organization for all right are we dealing with some spin here talk about that in a lot more i'm joined tonight by ian bremmer he's president of the global risk assessment group eurasia and jeezy wrote media he joins me from new york city it is good to have you back on the day can be as important i guess to remind our viewers that double trump has accused the w.h.o. this week of failing to warn the world in time about the hand demick he's been accused of scapegoating the w.h.o. trying to deflect blame that he waited too long to prepare for the outbreak is this statement trump white house spin. there's a lot of spin going on and there let's be clear there's

a lot there's more than enough blame to go around for all all of these organizations the world health organization is not perfect it was carrying water for china in the early days when when the chinese government was covering up the human to human transmission the world health organization was passing along chinese data. in an uncritical fashion and they know better but it's hard for them because china is also a major donor to the w.h.o. of course the trumpet ministration has had more than its share of mistakes in the way they've handled this i mean everyone got the same information from china at the same time right but the south korean and german responses to the pandemic or a lot more effective than the american response you want how come you call trump's going to blame obama or he's going to blame the governors or the mayors but he's not going to blame himself you look and let's also keep in mind that this is an

election period and trump has been playing a lot of defense in the last few years in terms of hearings in washington person that most are investigated and then of course the impeachment proceedings the next few months is going to play off and we're going to see hearings against both china and hearings against the world 'd health organization on the help in washington and both of those are much more useful for president trump the trying to flex any blame away from himself i want to pick up on germany for a moment the economy here in germany reopening next monday and i want you to take a listen to how the chancellor has explained her thinking to the public take a look. well the curve has become flatter it must not overload our health system and we have looked a cow collations showing we are currently has a transmission rate of one meaning one person infects one other person that's an average and is true for only one infection chain but it's approximately one

infecting one other person. in the if we get to the point that where every person in fact 1 point one others then by october our health care system or reach capacity with the assumed number of intensive care beds but if we get to 1.2 people so everyone is infecting trying to percent more meaning out of 5 people want to fix 2 others and 4 people in fact one other person then we will reach the limits of our health care system in july. here and if it gets to 1.3 people then we will reach the limits of our health care system in june. so you can see how little room we have to work with you. when you hear that does it strike you have different the german chancellor communicates with her public compared to the way the u.s. president communicates with his public. you mean you mean to say that you don't

think that those are identical slightly different. but there is a big difference right they are think you are very different but it is important to recognize that even though president trump free wheels with facts exaggerates all the time doesn't really have a lot of empathy and certainly isn't oriented toward science he's also not the person that's calling the shots on reopening the economy or closing at the person place that's the governors in the united states and i would argue that if you listen to some of the governors in the united states like new york or ohio or california or washington state that upon a very effective job in responding to this crisis they sound a lot more like the german chancellor but i also think that people like dr fouchier and dr park so open up there on this on the stage before and more importantly have been out there talking to the media and they're certainly not muzzled by the

american president like i would say the average american is even though they're dealing with the craziness of the president directly who are also ultimately getting pretty decent and balanced information about this pandemic in a way that say they weren't about the impeachment and they weren't about russian intervention in the us elections science is actually getting through here look at science through things to the women i want to talk about the ladies for a moment here we've got the german chancellor angela merkel we've got new zealand's prime minister we've got the president of taiwan these are all women members who are being praised for how they've handled this pandemic do you think that it matters that that they're women leaders that is that making the difference. i think it would be better if you had more diversity i think it's

a problem that politics is run by a lot of older white men who tend to be all ready to become president it usually requires a strong level of narcissism a strong level of i'm in charge i'm number one so i mean you're already bringing in personality traits that make it hard to listen to a broader constellation of experts and in dealing with this crisis experts he says what you really need so i mean i don't think it's necessarily just because they're women but i do think that there are a bunch of personality traits that we don't usually find among people that run countries. some of the women that have managed to make it to that to that level have been more effective than a lot of the guys were so yeah that's a good way to put it let's talk about the honesty that because i mean i don't think that i would be out there banging on on how wonderful i am if i was president but i

have no interest in being president so maybe this part of the problem does that's part of the problem exactly what about the united states what happens today we've learned today that 22000000 jobs they've been lost in just the last month and the funding for small business loans funding is one alex are you bracing for another great depression. no but this recession is deeper and will be longer than anything we've had since the great depression and you've seen what marco was discussing in germany i mean when you reopen this economy you're going to start with bakeries and bike shops and then you move the larger stores and malls and eventually into restaurants and who knows when you get things like sporting facilities rated movie theaters this is going to take a very long time you close the economy with a sledgehammer and you open it with a scalpel and if you start it because there's not much room as merkel said with the

health care system you're going to be very careful and that's not a waltz tango you'll take a couple steps one direction you'll have to come back even in china where they have vastly more surveillance and near 100 percent compliance with their directives they open the movie theaters they shut them down you know they open tourist facilities they shut them down right so i mean given that and the lack of political coordination inside countries across the world this is going to take a very long time so i mean i think we can get our hands around the human the direct human cost of the virus and it's very painful but we can deal with it we can get through it i think the economic cost is something that we haven't yet really understood just how much damage when you take 10 percent of the working population out of the economy in advanced industrial countries and you can't bring them bad you can't give them something productive to do poor years how do you pay for that

what does that do to your society what does it do to your politics what it do to the values that you hold as a country i don't think we're close to answering those questions we've been seeing images today of people in the united states protesting for an end to these stay at home orders at the same time we are testing for the virus is nowhere near the levels that it should be do you understand why aren't people protesting and demanding more testing. well testing is getting there i mean right now american tests per 1000000 a population is about where europe is on average better than france in the u.k. it's not as good as germany that's been a significant surge that the americans have done in the last few weeks including tests that are actually can be done very quickly a lot of innovation from abbott laboratories and others that have come on that front and because the americans are one and have 2 weeks behind the europeans in

terms of caseload and where we are in the curve on the pandemic that actually implies that in the weeks and a half times the americans will probably get a better position on testing than europe is so i don't think that that's the demand the americans need to make what they need to make our demands on masks we need and 95 masks we need for every every person and american not just health care workers the ability to ensure that you're not infecting other people and they're not infecting you and if you don't have enough masks for the health care workers you can't tell the average american go and buy those masks because you'll create a panic you'll create a run on them but we're in so we have them it's going to be very hard to get people back to the work place i've actually focused on the mass. i want to ask you let's get beyond the master let's talk about what we're hearing from china but there are more reports about the origin of the corona virus that may be the result of

a lab experiment vets went wrong in one china for example i mean we won't know until we find the viral reservoir or patient 0 in the pandemic so with that in mind what do you think would be the best way forward but so many suspicions and conspiracy theories out there should be china be forced to pay in some way for this pandemic. forced to pay i mean right now. if the americans told the chinese they need to pay the chinese would tell the americans to go scratch i mean you do understand that get into even a limited phase one trade deal but quite an awful lot of back and forth between the 2 countries and the cooperation level was limited i think much more importantly is that this this relationship which has no trust chinese do not trust the americans at all the americans do not trust the chinese at all that was true under obama true it's true under time but at least there was

a lot of interdependence we needed each other and because we need each other we didn't want conflict we didn't want confrontation were very concerned about that well now we already see that in the technology area ai the cloud 5 g. american tech companies can't invest in china like amazon and google chinese companies can't invest in the u.s. and will tell our allies like germany you get to work with huawei right and you're seeing manufacturing you're seeing a services the just in time supply chain got disrupted a lot of companies are going to start pulling that back away from china closer to the customers especially when they get bailouts and the america 1st policy is if we're giving you taxpayer money you better hire americans. and then we're blaming the chinese the chinese are blaming us or it's going to be a mysterious how as many chinese come to american universities in other words what we're doing is we're significantly reducing the interdependence between the united states and china and that means the likelihood of confrontation between the 2

largest economies in the world is going up a lot and i think we should all be very concerned about that especially on the back of a pandemic which is already causing more than its share of volatility uncertainty and risk in the global economy it's actually the great decoupling and the pandemic of the same time in burma it's always good to talk with the appreciate your insights thank you if. well it has to bring about a truce in the war in yemen last week saudi arabia declared a 2 week unilateral ceasefire in yemen citing fears that the. light spread in the country and for the past 5 years. by. government forces backed by. the country has been devastated leaving people dependent on wards which have been repeatedly blocked by a humanitarian disaster no match against the. lining

up to test for the coronavirus anyone who has a fever has to stand outside a checkpoint outside of sanaa it's to protect the metropolis of millions from an outbreak. we transfer people who are suspected to have coronavirus to the hospital or various hotels suitable for quarantine. officially there's only one case of covert 19 in yemen in reality there may be many more that's bad news for this troubled country 5 years of war between the saudi military coalition and the hoody rebels have devastated the country's infrastructure. almost 50 percent of all hospitals have been destroyed saudi arabia has declared a cease fire but it's a fragile one people don't have enough food water electricity or medicine and many people are suffering hardship and hunger washing their hands is almost impossible.

this sajjad hospital in sanaa is still operating. it is one of 2 with intensive care beds for coronavirus patients there are only 6 respirators here there are 12 in total in the whole capital. long the clinic is large and located in a sparsely populated area that's why it was chosen to fight the disease to start nothing more the un has warned that the delivery of urgently needed aid is considerably more difficult because of the sea and air blockade of saudi arabia and supplies which the united nations are trying to bring into the country lifesaving supplies i.c.u. supplies the medicines that are needed it's been difficult to do that because of the blockade. cholera and diphtheria waves have weakened millions of people in

recent years this makes becoming seriously ill with covert 19 even more likely deficiencies also in pharmacies masks and disinfectants are not available or only at extortionate prices will come of not i can't find a mass wherever i look there are not 1st they cost $20.00 variables now it's a 1000. a lot of. shortage and need are already in normal state of affairs in yemen a coronavirus epidemic could dramatically worsen the desperate situation of millions of people. scientists are searching for the source of the corona virus that has infected the entire world the outbreak began to the chinese city of on and the 1st reports lead to a possible peace at 0 with one of the city's wet markets and now with the lifting of people can once again go shopping but many are no longer shopping at the wet markets. unloading the catch of the day and will hand the

city was the epicenter of the corona virus pandemic sweeping the globe experts say the virus originated in this wet market apart from fresh meat and seafood it also sold wild animals such as bats thought to be the source of the disease. while the hunan seafood market remains closed most markets have now reopened to the dismay of international health experts and politicians. many locals are less worried. i sold it all and i think it's ok if you go to the seafood market this virus won't affect our eating habits because it's a special case and there is a lot we don't know for instance we haven't confirmed that it comes from the you nancy food market that we have eaten wild animals for thousands of years you know what they may have had some problems during processing so we should be more careful

with that by cooking them more and checking if they're fresh and different mail to . the markets or a traditional and affordable way of shopping in china and customers are returning. oh where it gets a similar to supermarkets so it's relatively safe there was so go around and if it's unsafe because supermarkets are more expensive still vendors complain that business is slow as many shoppers now prefer more expensive hygienic supermarkets as some return to the markets for affordable food others fear getting more than they've bargained for. if you're watching us from home chances are that is where you have spent most of your time in recent weeks but also means you will have front row seats to a special show this coming saturday the one world together it will be. around the world support for. the world health organization the goal is. boost investments in

global health and it will be a star studded event with lady ga ga j. lo paul mccartney elton john and taylor swift performing from their home. the biggest since the pandemic began and for a very important cause talk about that i'm joined now by colleen operations the germany director of global citizens the organization putting this show together curling is good to have you on the show talk to me i mean you've got a star studded line up here talk to me what are we going to see during this show. thanks so much for having me one well together really be a moment for all of us to come together as a global community to honor and support those people who are currently working on the front lines of this global and that make against corporate 19 but also for all of us to enjoy some great entertainment was still at home marketing social distancing so you've already mentioned some of the names they really excited that well you know it's us have joined us like this lady gaga they got her

a salt has helped us to correct the show and now we'll see that over 100 artists who will be playing from that living brings including. stevie wonder. maybe i highly suspect and many more are and we will also have some know how experts on the show and will tell the stories of how about that's sounds very good you know you represent germany and germany is considered a country that has managed this pandemic better than most others we know that germany will be good we opening its economy on monday is that good or bad the timing for this weekend's show. i think we're still in terms of the timing you know we're only going to have some slow openings next week i think the restrictions and. meeting of the people as they're quite tight so i think actually this is really good timing for our show because i think so many

other feeling like within and this for a really long time but at the same time it's also in marathon right and we realize we are yet a very miss and so what we want to do with the show is to give people the end jamey but also around the world some giant somehow to keep going continued his social distance of us ability but also equally importantly it's a crucial moment in time at the moment to make sure that our response to this and that make will be well be sauced and well funded so what we want to do with one world to get at home is to talk to support both locally as both globally locally who have a range of battered organizations who will support people who need it the most but through child as well as as how karen they were receiving some of the money and globally we are supporting the efforts are about how harmonization you know the world health organization let me pick up on that we know that the u.s. presidency has accused the w.h.o. of lots of mistakes this week so will this show will it be a form of

a rebuttal to those accusations. well we believe that the global how permanent bob hawke in the zation is really best placed to respond to this to it to respond to this crisis they have to reach the public knowledge and what they really need is the pounding so we really want to encourage everybody to get behind them action. and what about the people watching you know we were talking about a back seat we're talking about testing what about the mental health of each and every one of us living in lockdown now for weeks on end. yes i think that's a really important point on mental health and that's actually one of the reasons why we started our regular concert series that she's kind of in the lead up to the concert on this weekend in the 1st place a few weeks. because we really want to get people who might feel very isolated the kind that sense of community and so on and you know then also options to to do

something and to support about how organization and darlene work is really at the unfortunate had to interrupt because we're almost out of time but i wanted to say thank you and we look forward to the show this weekend thanks very much for talking with us tonight. all right the day is almost done the conversation continues online we will see you tomorrow everybody. to.

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