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they were an abducted by the nazis until you can do germany to be raised as citizens of the. during world war 2 thousands of polish children suffered this fate . many of. whom their real names were. children kidnapped. april 28th.
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then you know it was on but when people say that's so touching i always think what exactly did i do. use my stuff to do what is needed most was what. film director called you know link has been making highly successful films for decades her 1st feature beyond silence was nominated for an academy award her 3rd nowhere in africa one of the oscar for best foreign language film i don't know what makes motivation has always been 1st and foremost to tell stories that interest her and these are often about family dynamics. you know. we're going to archive on either we construct our own. in his wonderful cinema.
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before we talk about your films let's do a little q. and a. do you prefer to work with child actors or adult professionals whose. like working with children because i like telling stories about childhood. that doesn't mean every moment is a satisfying is the work with well trained actors from whom you get a lot but i need kids to tell the stories i want to tell. them. in the editing suite or on set for answers a month. at the start i sit alone at my desk at home and write my script then i have lots of fun on location with the crew really making the story come to life on the 1st and leave and then at 1st the editing is always hell but at some point it's
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fun to rest before it's what would you prefer being invited to the film festival and. unfortunately neither one has ever invited me but i'd really like one of my films to screen in khan. was the last time you cried at the movies as of us the last thing i enjoyed was joker but i didn't cry what would make you walk out of a movie. then especially when i'm bored if i feel i have better things to do i'm too busy i can't sit here anymore then i'm at least kind of them but if i thought for westerns or science fiction. or one. let me show you a photo for. you and it can discard what a shame she's no longer with us. sadly she died last may before we finished making the film when hitler still pink rabbit. style and if i really would like to show it to her it's like that's what was it about carr's book that moved you so much that
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you wanted to tell the story on film. and the effect it's like to see what won me over was that the perspective is quite unique and that this very difficult time is told from a child's point of view in that she didn't feel it was only terrible and. you don't see the horrors of the nazi era in all their enormity thank goodness. because the story judith cartels was also an adventure for her that's the way she described it it was actually a nice time inside. the premiere in berlin of links latest production when hitler stole pink rabbit the film adaptation of judith carr's bestselling autobiographical novel. that tells how cars family fled germany when the nazis ceased power in 1933 despite its title the book's not really about hitler. it's about her father theatre critic
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alfred carr her mother and her brother about how they flee to switzerland. not long afterwards the nazis burned alfred cars books in berlin. and the german jewish family was dispossessed judith carr never lived in germany again she worked as an author and illustrator in london until her death at the age of 95 her books sold millions of copies worldwide. link's film shows her family's flight through several countries and captures the fears and uncertainties of the time it seems to a child's eyes. that. anti-semitism is still an issue in germany today. in our country with the reemergence of anti-semitism with a climate of intolerance and xenophobia stories such as this one are essential and
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important these issues need to be discussed time and again with children and young people to. believe in god we live in a country where jew has once again become a curse word in schoolyards for jews are attacked and i know jewish families who no longer dare to tell people they're jewish for fear of being ostracized so it's a highly charged topic on the. sex in the body but. if there were no another photo. tufted mother and daughter they had a very close relationship. i think they were soul mates who communicated with each other as equals even when she was still a little girl. that really touched me. and this was a. system clock. as she simply. because
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like you said. it's just the surest way. it's fixed if i just had no could just hope for mine. just because. this is michigan's offense still sounds to my. little look like this will sound. so it's kind. of a specious. right it was the war a topic in your family. my nicole smith avanza to push my grandmother was one of those typical wartime women who saw her family through under difficult circumstances he met the men were always absent on the streets and in daily life you still saw men who had clearly been wounded in the war. that still infiltrated
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our childhood. but only as an adult did i realize how recent world war 2 still was then we nod outside of it. for your film show things from a child's perspective. what are your favorite childhood memories of. growing up in a small or mid-size town gave me a great sense of security. we also had an incredible amount of freedom. my parents worked a lot they ran a restaurant in but now i'm mine and what my mother always went back to the restaurant in the evenings the nights when i saw that little slip of light under my bedroom door and someone was in the hallway of the living room and i fell asleep feeling secure because mama was home. because most of the time she wasn't there i had a very independent life. even as a young child and it was leaving from there for you kid.
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well how did you get to know cinema in a small town and have you know it's like you know that i'm there were 2 movie theaters one show a soft porn films for the spa guests things like the erotic adventures of heidi unlike the other show mainstream movies weeks after their release. they certainly weren't art films nothing where you could say well that's really. the door that a lot as a person i like to show you another photo. that's from beyond silence another close father daughter relationship you could say that's my theme my dad once asked me darling do we have an issue where you always talking about fathers and daughters so i don't have any deep psychological justification for it but daughters relationships to their fathers interests me and faith and it'll fit me.
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is that it's just use. that against issues that i should. feel. lucky as parents are both deaf mute so she hears and interprets the world for them . the film was a hit with critics and audiences alike. link was just 32 when beyond silence was nominated for the oscar for best foreign language film. though she loves her family love a feels trapped music is her escape. so far as much of the.
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us gone beyond silence was a milestone. in the mid ninety's comedies were big in german cinema and then you came along with your 1st major film. was it a big risk starting out with a film like that. through. sometimes i've wondered why i'm quite intransigent in a certain way and i think that's because i had no expectations as far as my success was concerned. folk maybe it's because my parents and the world i come from didn't
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have any either so ultimately if not many people see my film or nobody sees it and it doesn't matter. what kind of i get it it's all i got helps i thought the main thing is i got to make it and that's always given me a sense of freedom in my opinion that's the most important thing for a movie to be successful it needs to have interesting and complex characters. no matter how great the story around them is the core is always the person the character. and those they're confronted with can. defeat them states again. and that i as a viewer follow this character whom i find authentic and truthful. after this. and it was a lie which is what i always have in mind that you put a lot of yourself into the story even though the framework doesn't have to come from your own world. i conveyed commonwealth's but at heart when it's about family about family relationships about conflicts but also about the great bonds love and affection within a family. then that has something to do with me with me it's on and through my
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characters i relate something i'm intimately familiar with you know this can not just leave my head he doesn't even. know here goes. what shall i say it's slowly starting to bore me i don't know what more i can say there's nothing that i haven't said before or that i haven't said a 100 times already but i'm glad i'm still glad it went over to the oscar is still being used as a doorstop in my living room after all these years nothing has changed. and they are sort of ghosts to. germany for no where in the. epic film set in africa was a revelation and brought her an oscar the 1st ever to go to
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a german female director it's the tale of a jewish family fleeing the nazis and almost breaking apart while living in exile in kenya the relief of having survived is marred by the pain of being uprooted. only the daughter finds contentment in their new home. one reason to his pocket. so yes this is what it seems to be. given how is it that some of those occasions mentioned. that these kind of this you tell my spy you going to get the idea was that she was taking care of it all what do you say that. was winning the oscar liberating or did it feel like
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a burden yes. i can honestly say it was a burden for me but at the time i had a little baby which i'd wanted for a long time. i'd finally gotten pregnant and given birth to this wonderful child and just at that time she'd fallen ill taught and done to win an oscar right then and to celebrated the way that was expected of me it completely overwhelmed me and i couldn't cope despite the oscar you never worked in hollywood was hollywood never an option for you is maybe only see it's not that interesting to me because i can make the films i like to make in europe in germany i don't need more money in order to make good films. and go through so much and i imagine i might not have the same freedom in the us that i have in europe in germany. so you've made about 10 films in 30 years. but i'll take your films made a long gestation period. the other says it's mine and since i write my own script that usually takes quite a while. and also because i like to live my life see my friends and do other things
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apart from shooting films i'm probably not the quickest director i was quick now though i made 2 films back to back indeed. and usually is what can i say those 2 really liked each other so i'm often when they met in the studio in berlin it was quite beautiful. couple looked at him and said you're me now. in your use look back at him and said yes i mean you know. look this is something that i speak to it's a feeling. and advice rather be that i'm not have i'm far too much to start on but you got to stop just. because of. who. bittersweet comedy set me industrial war region in the 1970 s.
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an emotional journey through west german history. couple you know links film is based on the autobiography of. one of germany's best loved comedians over the years with a portrait of a sheltered childhood that's been touched by trauma. really it's the tale of a boy fighting a battle against his mother's mental health problems with the force of his a purely in personality and joyce flamboyance. ellicott. stated on.
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it's a whole timidly it's a battle he loses but thanks to a sprawling supportive family life goes on. so. you're not too bothered about success but you're successful nonetheless the this was the most successful german film in 2018 and had audiences in tears myself included how do you do it. when people say that's so touching i always think what exactly did i do. this is it's always a fine line between kids and real deep emotion so you need the ability to judge of course what's corny and what's good. got a knack for finding appropriate actors especially for the children is there
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a moment where you go yes that's the one. saying that's the one puts a lot of pressure on the kid it's more like i think ok i'll be able to work with him or her oh i know how it works really well with children but how do they view working with her. i thought it was super right reba yes she was so helpful if there was something i didn't know she told me what i had to say and i could just repeat it that made it much easier and she was so nice. but when was the 1st film they're still pretty open minded and when i say walk over there they walk over there when they don't question anything. actors usually try to convey something or feel something that's why i like working with children who've never acted before because they're not as self-conscious they don't think about the effect they're having. fostered over. the screen down the line i. just now. we want to.
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let's talk a little bit about making films in germany there are great film schools support for emerging talent millions of euros and grounds does it not hurt as a woman that there are relatively few female directors in germany. and you prefer. ok what's absolutely not ok is the fact that 50 percent of all students are female and then we end up with maybe $10.00 to $15.00 directors in total it's an acceptable. and it's also boring. we want to see a female perspective in cinema too we want to see how women see our society. there are many reasons for this who calls the shots who gets the opportunities do producers editors and sponsors support women in cinema but as i always tell female students in film school you've got to want it to really want it and it comes at a price. and one does have to
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a certain extent you can't always be nice. and leave us made for you don't support having a quota at film festivals. if it entirely fits i wouldn't want there to be a fixed number but there could be more pressure to give women a platform to say hello have a look at what we've got here the fall off on its own i have lots and there's a lot more where that came from fear what do you think of development since hashtag me to has anything changed in the german film business as if it is as good as it's definitely good that there is no where in a sea of these issues my daughter is 17 years old. i can now talk to her about how it's definitely not ok when some guy just touches her behind because he thinks he's so great and powerful and goes come with me day. we've all experienced this i've even had some guy knocking on my hotel room door while his wife is sitting in the lobby downstairs who does he think he is why does he think it's ok to offer
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so far you are primarily made feature films many of your colleagues also do t.v. or work for streaming platforms what about you do you have any interest in making a t.v. series or you know. i'm doing a series next it's about a children's psychotherapy practice and specifically children who display behavioral problems. it said more or less against one backdrop it's very stripped down i would speak it's almost a bit experimental what we've got a plan to get as fast as an experiment for. or another with children. yes children are somehow always involved. although what i definitely don't want is to make children's movies not because i don't enjoy them but because i feel like now my daughter is 17 i've moved on. and i don't want to keep doing the same thing . but talking about society through children's eyes that's something i really enjoy and. i just do you just learn i mean it involved a fun one doesn't. come to know that you just become vanished because i.
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feel my call. to us to see off the unimpeachable income. is the source also for these over the parts of your. we've covered a lot of ground but we haven't talked about the city that's been your home for a long time. but we go outside with. a sort of we're going to do their. part to. munich germany. home to the various studios in the bavaria film.
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many successful films have been produced here including. expertly made films for the global market. munich was the center of german film for a long time with most german oscar winners like a link based here they all studied at the city's university of television and film the high fat a huge number of its graduates have gone on to stellar careers. to go through as one of germany's film is munich the place to be for movie makers and primark the place to be. as you might have amazon and we've got some serious competition and that's berlin of course young people go to berlin partly because it's much more affordable to live there. but i like being in munich. munich is a good base to start off from it's a good city to come home to. when you travel around the world and see all kinds of exciting things but also get a bit stressed out from it all then munich is
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a lovely place to return to it's a sheltered unstructured world and i find it's a very orderly city. if indeed this and. i'm for you started out studying documentary filmmaking when did you make the transition to feature films. it helped as i've said and i realised fairly quickly to be honest i sneaked my way into film school via documentary films because the entry requirements for documentary filmmaking were more up my street. and so that's what i applied for and once i was unrolled i wanted to work with actors shops negative and it's ok but i realised pretty early on that i didn't like just following people with a camera but rather including them in the story that i'm shaping by infelicitous diet. you grew up in a small town and have been living in munich for over 30 years are you a local now. is 12 a dozen i don't know that i can ever be a local i definitely don't sound very and when i try it's embarrassing. but yes
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munich is my home now as if i shall it's manageable and it's not as challenging and tiring as a big city like berlin. is on the list everybody. up. to see either through yeah thanks and goodbye it's been a pleasure really for. the
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