we feel the fear of everybody and the worries and and on the day that we left of course my parents could tell us that we were fleeing. we never thought we would survive the trip. we went to montreal to meet. and despite the chilly weather we couldn't have wished for a wilma welcome. to the russia has been living in canada for over 40 years now how much you claim to draw on her own experiences and memories.

you were 10 when your family fled saigon. don't ever remember anything what happened in saigon was how was your life that when i left i was all that off to a member and then all that not all the enough to understand everything so when you sit down to write you can you have the freedom to reinvent you know the stories between the little dots that you have of the memories but this saw visit images and children i think you have a very tunnel vision of things right and so i remember the smell of the kitchen and the room and how they would dress have they moved around and you also have images of those tanks coming into town we only feel the fear of everybody and the worries and and on the day that we fled of course my parents couldn't tell us that we were fleeing right but the. tension was so dense that you can you know you know

without anybody say anything and to have certainly all of the at the in the house to the room or you know to whisper they never talk anymore. came to his childhood in saigon ended in 1975 when south vietnam fell to the communist north after a 20 year war the home city was renamed the main city. the 1500000 people who fled across the south china sea would dubbed the boat people hundreds of thousands died the despair that drove the more board and the survivors relief are hard to imagine. we never thought we would survive the boat trip so already when we arrived in malaysia. it was a bonus you know a 2nd chance to life and as we got off the boat and the boat broke up 50 minutes after we got off so when you standing on the beach and you see that boat break up.

you have no more complaint if anything goes after that. 'd kim and her family lived in a refugee camp in malaysia until her parents secured entry to canada the start of a new life today she's one of the country's most celebrated authors her 3 best selling novels have been translated into 25 languages. it must have been a clash of cultures when you came to canada what was your. most difficult challenge we have arrived not from our home we arrive from a refitted camp so basically you we became subhuman you know we lived in places that were not places and under citizenship we were stateless right and so you we arrived here and we couldn't compare with anything else we compare with 0 rights or anything after 0. it was great gift and the beauty was that we

arrived in a small city where my impression was the whole city was there waiting for us someone pick me up and help me an ounce of his arms or her arms but everybody was being held and that was the 1st moment where we we came to me it was not 2 years later with the paperwork and all that we became canadian on that 1st moment because you fall you fall in love with these people who didn't hesitate to pick up a dirty refugee and i mean dirty you know we had infection everywhere we had lies and how have and and even today you know i wonder if i would pick up myself when i was 10 when i arrived here can trace family had been affluent and well educated her parents valued tradition as refugees they lost everything. going to canada was a decline for your parents for your father was

a philosopher professor and both of your parents worked in factories in kenya where did save see their state the start of their new life in canada as unread in richmond or as a loss because my parents could already speak french and english so they couldn't follow courses in have a salary from the government for learning the language the hotel where we were we landed where we stay the rector. gave him a job to clean the stairs the the emergency stairs meaning he didn't meet anybody he created this job for my dad and i still remember my dad gathering all of us in the room and he said and he started a sentence by say rios on. the director he could have just given that money but he wanted to create a job so that that 1st job would lead to another job and also to. give us back our

dignity and so giving is a very difficult gesture and him near exactly how to give but with dignity you know that not only a means of living in terms of money but dignity and dignity is everything from their own wants and you you you have that back there you really consider as a full human person. you can do anything. so how can we complain. kim and her 2 brothers didn't just have to learn english and french upon arriving in quebec i had to learn how to trust again. and then have a voice you know vietnam felt really into silence after the end of the war in 75 you could no longer speak really or as much as possible to not speak it so that you don't make your the people around you bad information because we were all forced

to the nouns any jesters of our actions which were considered to be anti-revolutionary are anti cultural as you know you know in a communist contacts and so as much as possible that you don't you no longer speak you no longer you try not to hear it try not to see and so that's how we lived it to me years after the end of the war and before that because i was such a shy kid i didn't speak at all all of her very little all i did was crying i was very good at crying canada and our space if i could back because we arrived here and go back and that's why french is now my 2nd mother tongue i would say québec gave me a voice a voice that i didn't know that i had and that i was now looking for. with this voice came to me become an author eventually. her 1st book ruth was published in

french in 2009 the novel is full of memories of her childhood in saigon of the city smells and food of being forced to flee and the refugee camp the language remains poetic even when dealing with despair. if a choreographer had been underneath the plastic sheet on a rainy day or night he would certainly have reproduced the same $25.00 people shortened tour on their feast each holding a tin can to collect the water the dripped off the roof sometimes in torrents sometimes drop by drop if a musician had been there he would have heard the orchestration of all that moved or striking the sides of the chains if a filmmaker had been there he would have captured the beauty of the silent and spontaneous complicity between richard people but there was only us standing on a floor that was slowly sinking into the cloud.

finally the family was permitted to immigrate to canada a new life between 2 cultures came to a 2nd book man was published in 2013 it tells the story of a woman from viet nam who meets her great love in canada similar to that or the herself who has 2 children with her canadian husband her next novel is also somewhat autobiographical published in 2016 its protagonist is a vietnamese woman living in exile in canada who gets relocated to hanoi for work. and i had the chance to go back to work as a lawyer i was sent to and i want to protect and that that's when i had the chance to meet vietnam vet you know to learn to norway. as an adult and what more than that not only as an adult but as a comedian but hung noise was not cells we know it was enemy islam. and yes it was

a different country. to me hanoi words totally unknown and i think you know i would have adopted at that myself better in germany then in hanoi simply because i thought i knew hanoi was germany i accept but i don't know anything or gonna learn the language i'm going to learn the culture was when i went in as of yet that means it was totally me stabilized because it was not the same vietnam that i had in mind but i've discovered you know. so many stories that all of us there were no winners and we were all victims of a war for from one side or the other and that's why today i would never call the north of vietnam as the enemy land we were just victims you know of the same war standing on both sides of the fences but it's the same it's the same suffering

it was the same sadness it was the same last nobody won in a war. i don't think so. millions died in that war which also drove the other one and a half 1000000 people to flee their home country 60000 vietnamese went to canada in the 1970 s. alone where they received a warm welcome. and when in 2015 the world was asked to grant asylum to syrians canada once again opened its doors prime minister justin trudeau even came to greet the 1st syrian refugees but there isn't a phobia in canada to him 20 hopes her own story could help counter anti immigrant sentiment but when you came to canada you're received a warm welcome what about today's canada it's not really saying you know when we left vietnam the international community community was waiting for us. at the air.

but he was opening their arms in you know taking us in today it's not the same. it's not the same situation and that's why i just want to remind all of us that we have already been so generous and so good we have this and that we are capable of this goodness we can be great which is forget sometimes. canada's hospitality it's breathtaking scenery can make us forget the darkest chapters of this country's history its banning of the cultural practices and languages of its indigenous peoples the so-called 1st nations even in the 1990 s. it was still being relocated repressed and disenfranchised they continue to suffer the economic and psychological consequences to this day only now is the state taking responsibility for those terrible acts. we always forget that they were here before all of us but in books images very

often we have one image right one portrait of the typical can but today canada and specially canada has set a new country. but they have been for many many layers of of migration of people coming in. so i think we are more. color multicultural multi you know that we have that kind of country we live together in order to live well together we need to know each other before we can love each other right so if we don't know the story of our 1st nations then we will never be able to connect and live together and saw their stories have to be told we asked canadians need to know it's our responsibility to know like a family we need to know our brothers and sisters and stories and lives and their.

love break ups so it's all for so i think thought for a nation is so important to have conversation and as you know as soon as we have the communication is broken and that's where the misunderstanding start and the war you know and hatred right so we need to have this conversation. a conciliatory attitude means that kim tunis influence extends far beyond the literary world and she doesn't shy away from to abuse one of her sons has autism the author says he has changed her perceptions and her writing. and i always think that around 10 years late because i arrived here at when i was 10 so i'm always running to catch up the 10 years that i have lost well that i'm late on everybody else rationally and normal ok you know at the same pace than everybody but i don't know instinctively i'm always running and my son who's artistic cannot go with that

pace he goes at his own wisdom and he forces me to slow down like a desk you know like at his speed and so for him when he walks into a room it takes him time to examine the room and because of that i also have to stop and examine the room understand why he prefers one room to the to the other is of the right is it the shape of the lamp is it the number of people is it the the texture of there's the so far or you know i have to analyze all of the senses and because of him at become since oriel i become aware of all the little details that i would have never seen if i was just me i would just going to go to war or whatever and there they are and then me and would not have even seen that there was a soulful kim 20 turns challenges into opportunities for optimism has helped her

succeed and it seems both literary critics and the public are impressed in 2018 she was shortlisted for the alternative nobel literature prize. there are only a handful of canadian writers in the world why this man will walk with edward young . michael and that may be you where where do you see yourself in canadian literature i don't know. i don't see myself as a writer because a writer has to be. mr they they think more you know and i don't think so what i only enjoy what you know what i am the way. to me it's such a privilege to sit down and find the right word that it i can spend the whole day just to try to find one word and that would be an accomplishment for me and so i'm on i don't know a writer has to be like this you know i don't know in my ever watch him to he isn't

troubled by what others think of her she enjoys trying out new things she's been a lawyer and a restaurant and become a bestselling novelist she's even written a cookbook which she also presented in berlin with a cooking class. with you this is great cuisine just roasting flour. well there was more than roasted flour that would be to me stylebook meatballs. and the air was thick with the smell of spices roasted nuts and kim trees delicious homemade sources. she didn't just make it look easy it really was easy and the results were delicious kim to a has received several awards for her cookbook which also contain stories from her family life in class 2 she showed how cooking and eating can bring people together

there was chatter and laughter and occasionally explanations from kim to a didn't amaze food also plays a large role in her novels where it's use. to seduce to comfort and to celebrate she says to vietnamese people eating is about much more than sustenance it's an attitude to life as she learned in her early childhood in saigon. my cousin's parents would base their choice of what to buy on the color of a fruit or the perfume of a spice or simply according to the whim of the moment the food they brought home was always surrounded by a festive or a sense of decadence and thrill they didn't fresh out of the empty rice jar in the kitchen or the palms we were supposed to learn by heart they just wanted us to stuff ourselves on mangoes to bite into fruition make the juice for it boss spinning around and around like tops to the music of the dolls and still be fantastic michel sardou the beatles or cat stevens.

you write that you like a family or lie on foot to express your feelings what do you cook for friend who is really suffering and what do you call when you're happy oh i think the same. it's the fresh rolls because in vietnamese food is really. a particular for its. and romas where we eat a lot of fresh herbs just really yeah you don't cook before they're just put on the table and for the fresh rolls you put their leaves in the roll and generally you have maybe 6 or 7 kinds of different kinds in there so every bite is different the 1st the 1st by the 1st perfume perfume that you you have is at the level of the lips right and then when you chew you have a different cocktail and when you swallow you have a whole opening up and everybody is different because you can never have this the

same intensity in each leaf and the same amount of leaves and now so each by is a new experience greater at the end. i think it's almost like a garden in your mouth so if you sat that will make you happy and if you're happy then you it's brought to you floated. always in food just canadian food and have a similar effect not yes yes i know that you will laugh but it's called but they should know what and the 3rd layer of memes means being corn and mashed potatoes it seems very simple but it's more comforting it's something i hear a lot of over and over and it's quite heavy because it was invented for the people who work on the railroad when you eat that you know yours you stay strong for a long time so i don't need that much strength from food. but when i eat pettish

you know it's always like a huge piece i can never stop. came to me very much at home in canada but vietnam is also an integral part of her. if you ask me if i was a comedian all of the music i would say i am both i don't have to choose in the same so-called you know 30 percent of either me 70 no i'm 100 percent on both especially because i would say i've even too much cheese and bacon now i'm big enough to sit on 2 chairs and not in the crack of the chairs you know and so i would say that i understand the immigrant. poster of position because i have been one but i've also become fully to me when you know i i don't know i consider myself a very often i forget that you can tell that i'm not

a white person of the. readings of your books if people actually about your path. asked about the experiences as a refugee does your success happy to raise awareness about the reality of free we have a referee trees i hope i hope i have had the chance to be invited to many events where i speak and now and i'm always you know happy when there's one person in the room who would come up to me and say you've changed my view on on the refrigerator you know on how we see with fiji's and that that's the whole purpose you know of yeah of me speaking because very you know when do you give a microphone to a refreshing never very rarely or when we talk about immigrants or refrigerate we talk as a about them as a group there's no story there's no name there's no age there's nothing right

there's no history to each of them it's like a big group and as a human person you know as our brain we cannot relate to a whole group we have to relate to one person at a time so i guess i am that person that you know who has the microphone and so i try to speak for all of us. i hope that the way you know the job fairly well. so yeah i tried to take responsibility basically of this privilege to have a chip you know where i can speak about that experience for life insight on a flight from viet nam her marriage to a canadian came to his personal experience to serve as a basis for characters in all 3 of her novels can you imagine to write a novel that has no connection to your personal life. right now i can't i

have so much to say still about the people that i've met and really my only objective when i write is to share what i find beautiful and this humans be gentle around me and so i don't even have enough time to write about the things i know so . maybe once the better i finish that than our will imagine you know science science fiction on some different planets but right now just the people around me are already so fascinating and amazing i don't need to go anywhere really and so maybe that's why it's so close to me you've changed your profession so often is there any challenge you still want to achieve i hope i hope there are more out there and there are many things i haven't done i'm so yes absolutely i've just last friday i've just accepted. a mandate that was way beyond my you

know abilities and it was outside of my comfort zone but i accepted it for that very reason that i would learn something so absolutely this was much i would love to be an astronaut. but i think i'm too old. oh model i think i'm too short i'll never get to be able. thank you very much it wasn't my pleasure it was a better idea but. it seems unlikely they came to even run out of material anytime soon and through her storytelling she will continue to act as a voice for abo's.

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