tv Stolen Children Deutsche Welle May 2, 2020 10:15am-11:00am CEST
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19th $39.00 nazi germany invaded poland and for more than 5 years brought terror to much of europe with its ideology of a master race. a central figure in that campaign was rice fair s.s. heinrich himmler. the leading nazi was obsessed with racial purity and came up with a plan to bolster the so-called arion race between 19411945 children were kidnapped from all over eastern europe and forcibly german ised. historians estimate that 20000 of those children came from poland alone. in nazi run children's homes they learned to speak german their identities were falsified the got us for because all i was named a load here vitesse check from that moment on i was the least civet cat.
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those children are now over 80 years old and many of them still know nothing about their roots. nor do buy me alas armies are felt this kind of back and forth also affected my relationships which. much of what happened to them is still a mystery. use of some of our travels as often as he can to the place where his parents are buried . it lies outside chance to hover in southern poland.
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he was just 9 years old when they died. 3 i bet are i feel i'm missing the warmth of the cream rises to our father and mother. who really were brought up by strangers who were something larger than life but all my life i've been missing that warmth that embrace all that. his father usurped was 41. his mother french scieszka 36. when they were murdered by the nazis on this spot. their son user is now 86 years old. but he has never forgotten his childhood home. how. far. followed all of us over there was a village house was 2 rounds it was made of wood and bricks book osama the job there was
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a show you were the stables or and father's workshop in the bunker. during world war 2 use of his family he had used in partisans in the bunker 7 people lived underground here for 2 years is out them both couldn't bear all of the above this bunker was a pipe for the air came in or not and the jews of the polish protestants got their air through this pipe of course my parents also gave them food for sure but look how many upon the show there are just aren't going to go yet. and the whole tragedy got little beauty and torture took place here. and show you how the. germans came to congress soldiers doesn't really care that you. value knock on your door. and ask if they're so frustrated here. that's an invalid it's a sort of smashing the windows with their rifles. all the planes were broke option just my mother was crying and took us children out to the big and we children ran
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behind our mama and papa we were all practically naked under shorts it was 5 o'clock in the morning it was september so it was chilly and the germans were the jews were the partisans but also i only went into the barn they had a pointy metal stick and they stuck it in the straw to see if they would hit a person who would scream and yell more but there was nothing after. the germans hit them with anything they could get their hands on. with a whole bunch of pitchforks. my mother was stabbed in the stomach 3 times with a pitchfork jones or beer while she was pregnant flesh to show their mission under 6 their 7th month. well bhatia mama didn't make any more sense she was pleading sister no. father had. he been hit with a rifle the whole court yard was full of blood they dragged my mother here my
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father there are kids there. and they still found nothing but i shall miss their leisure not know. it's not good news between the workshop and the stables and. i'm not sure. how they got out that maybe 4 or 6 and grades fell in the middle of the courtyard and at that moment the 1st jewish woman came out of. order. and then they said the other side of the house on fire. after that the soldiers shot uses parents dead and threw their bodies into a pit at the spot where their graves is now. the children survived after witnessing the events. then they were taken to germany like thousands of other children from 1941 onwards who were deemed to be worthy of being terminated. use of
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sr yanina still lives in germany. born as she's german to german ice. all i stress that she corresponds to the curio nordic race one blonde hair and like colored i asked that was what the germans wanted to show our sister was lost to us forever. as a pearl but also sister the best one of us is in germany let's others. it was just comes god. get him anything give me a good good game of you maybe you better suited to. your job or come to any god would be kinda $14.20. just there were given what i was doing maybe you don't. wish to.
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come on luther king has lived in bad dear i'm in southwestern germany since he retired. where he originally came from he doesn't know whose you know are you seeking leave everyone feels nice curiosity to know what their parents look i think you have revealed we don't like to know if i have others saw systems on the seas or asked so i just don't know if i switched over i tried everything. to 20 archives but i found nothing you've nothing at all happened before god thinks. this for decades herman has been trying to find out who his parents were and where he was born. he always has the support of his partner. even as a child he felt that there was some mystery he was 6 years old when he was placed
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with maria and her man luther king but he sensed that they were keeping something from him that. this stuff it was part of was hidden in my foster father's concert. and as various 13 or 14 year old i look to see what was in it. for you in this yes i was always curious. and when i saw this i realized more or less what it was a part. of this. this is my that i already knew that i wanted my real parents but i didn't know how it all hung together. and then i read this document that said father dead mother dead. man luther king's birth certificate issued by nazi officials there are dashes where the names of his father and mother should. be. his place of birth is listed as broken invertigo the site of one of the nazi run orphanages where the identities of the
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abducted children were covered up. when the. car was the 1st place i went looking and i spoke to the can take it that he was still alive i asked him if any about this took place here in africa like it said in the document and he said no no buts it ever took place here. near the border step before and this fall and since then harriman has discovered that he was probably called roman russia tough skinned before he was placed with his foster parents was he really born on january 20th 1036 he has his doubts. because i might be a year older or younger maybe i'm just 36 years old. they're just bursting with documents from woods was january the 21st. i don't want to say i know. the central polish city of wood was probably the 1st station in his life.
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still doesn't know who gave him up to this orphanage. but he does know that the nazis took him from here. germany. me that you've been into the cold but you've been going. on all this by a. lot of money out of. but no one. she really was good i was on that and you know what you know i was on order given that. i do not. want i didn't know if you have it all. critical i'm. not going to be appalled by how credible. that. story also has ties to which. she was 5 years old when she was brought to the youth
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detention camp in let's munched as woods was called during the nazi occupation. today she's meeting up with her friend bob barr a bitch. the 2 women have a lot in common. and their paths in life have been very similar. but. they've come to a school located on the site of the camp. the school directory showing them room that commemorates the thousands of children who were interned here. like who was brought here in 1943. 5. i already have a great map. well shall we need to find him really have plotted street it's over here we should turn the map around like this last hour. that means my
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house must have been here. the way you remember everything of course have you ever heard of the children from dr v. tasha screw up i am of. us. father was a resistance fighter executed by the nazis her mother was deported to auschwitz for her husband's actions and ended up in the machinery of the german occupiers oppression people and how long were you in the camp possible. i was probably here for around 8 weeks. before that in the race office in poznan and they had determined that i corresponded to the so called area ski jets and the germans wanted to german allies children of the area and race. are said to one yourself write. 3
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people. 3 life stories. with this in common. all 3 are victims of heinrich humors racist many of. the rights of your s.s. visited occupied poland in 1941 and traveled through the bar to guard history. in 1939 poland had been carved up between the soviets and the germans. sections of the western part of the country including the so-called racecar to lie and were incorporated into the german reich. other regions were placed under german civil administration. himmler's vision was to make sure many of the mightiest nation in the world by bolstering the population with new progeny from abroad mainly. from eastern europe. in the underside sheaf in berlin are hundreds of documents that show the gradual development of humor strategy for the organized abduction of children.
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after his trip through far to go himmler wrote to the go lighter after chrysler. i believe it is right that small children of especially good raise from polish families become lectern brought up by us and special not to large children's nurseries and orphanages. i would advise starting with 2 or 3 such institutions so as to gather experience. isabel hina mine is a professor of contemporary history at the university of minister. she has studied the subject of the stolen children for a number of years. she set up a europe wide research project and with colleagues analyzed $17000.00 files of
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foreign children found by the allies in germany after the war of the partition and when historians want to reconstruct the routes taken by the stolen children and with them. but the fact that the nazis deliberately concealed their identities makes that a formidable task on it. as it would and not did but i did the calculations like down based on the reports of how many children were transported and how many were found after the war and i would estimate the number to be around $20000.00 polish children behind each one of those numbers is an individual story of a life threatening to 10 while and set on a completely different course and then fall off the norm. there are many myths about the forced german ization of foreign children one account is that they were ethnic germans that is children of german ancestry who lived outside the german rightish and that only very few children were brought to germany at all. but
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him or his plan did have a system as the rights commissioner for the consolidation of german nationhood he helped to issue directives 671. it's dated. first all children and formerly polish orphanages are to be taken and placed in accommodations after that operation is concluded chilled. and living with polish foster parents will be examined. the directive was signed by all rich private humors direct subordinate. later at the nuremberg trials he claimed that there had never been a concrete plan. for a directive $6071.00 went to only high ranking leaders of the s.s. and the police and the corresponding s.s. leaders concerned with race and settlement policy so that the s.s. operators would be aware of how it worked it was a part of
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a supposedly rational occupation and gemini ization policy that was imposed mainly on occupied poland but also one other occupied and next to each and said here at all possible. today experts believe that our own 50000 children were abducted from across europe. cases are known from today's ukraine the czech republic and slovenia. but the largest group was from poland because the machinery of the abduction started in the bar to go district. first orphanages were searched then child welfare officials summoned all children living with foster parents for inspection. there were precise guidelines on how a racially suitable child was supposed to look 21 characteristics were examined including growth patterns the back of the head the bridge of the nose and body hair
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the officials were looking for so-called arion types classified as pure nordic purif alien or nordic faily and what the nazis couldn't use were unbalanced hybrid types. and finally children were also taken away from their biological parents like . she was taken for racial examination after her mother was deported then in the autumn of 1943 she was brought to the youth detention camp in litzmannstadt to be germanized. this memorial recalls the thousands of children who lived here and were forced to do hard labor. i knew it. was a book the memories come flooding back when i load your stance here. she was brought to the camp together with her little sister daria. nirvana
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brought some copper told straight away we weren't allowed to speak polish. we'd whisper to each other in polish but of course we couldn't make it obvious that we were speaking. last month in our school. we were punished for every infraction. each couple had a club and they shouted at us very loudly. we were scared of the yelling and of course the severe beating. by layouts of apparel. i think so they work us full roll. the counters off in germany which was hard for us we didn't know the numbers. and that's why the roll call used to take a very long time wash near one of our time a kind of. other in your step but it had to keep going until our supervisor had counted the entire group of children off. to the. south and
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often when they went through the barracks where we slept. they would find dead children in the beds. so. no. then called was the 1st place where all of you were sent. more followed caliche burkle. bad protein. thousands of children were funneled through these nazi run homes. each station represented a further step to conceal the child's real identity. dates of birth were changed names were made more german sounding. became elite civic.
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her friend barbara became bearable. they were forced to forget their origins finally both were placed in german families where paradoxically they experienced the happiest years of their childhood. use of salva lives in the center of chance to hold. even know he can't accept that his sister yanina loves the nation that caused his family so much suffering america has 5 days of her letters from germany from my sister. which she did not want to appear in person in this film or engage with the family's history that's apparent in her letters. it was a line vendor by your society so when you come to see us please please don't talk about politics or about the war and. wars you love and kisses. yeah i
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need to. call her letters are signed with her polish and her german name or no you're stuck. and so german iced that she even writes in her letters that i shouldn't talk about politics or our history show you because she's embarrassed. you can still get on a ship in russia doesn't want to know anything about poland or the memory of her family. or when you know she lives her life there in germany she is for you richard . after the murder of their parents the 5 silver children were brought to court now grown in silly. you know nino was taken from there by a woman from one of or who adopted her her name was changed to anita no official records about this were preserved which is why you know was not found after the war but her siblings never stopped looking it was 20 years before use of saw her again
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since then they've met up regularly. how they all out o. my good day my dear sister. are you would hold out for a walk. here is thought i had lunch and you're probably tired just not sure i'm looking forward so much to seeing you soon as the were for the jets. yeah you look at all but i'll be living a chance to hope for tomorrow or 12 at nohant state. check or by my dear sister. banks. you know for sure because there is so far you've heard her voice. use of sr was carried off to germany shortly before the end of the war she didn't
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undergo a racial examination the longer the war went on the less attention the german officials paid to rules and guidelines. and in his abduction was an act of pure despotism. in the southwestern german city of fribourg hermeneutic king is paying a visit to crystal this is the. charts as a teacher but for years he has been helping him on the 21 the german government to recognize the kidnapped children as victims of the nazi regime so that they can receive compensation. she wants founded an association representing the children's interests and he and harman have filed lawsuits together so far with no success. as a last resort they've approached germany's highest court the constitutional court.
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this is this is nice is the letter i received this. just processing it. now i have to wait for a day to. know how money shortfall just turned and i'd suggest that we write another letter to the constitutional court saying they should speed things up a little in consideration of your. own zone of us who are not. those initial toit i think it's great that at his age he's still prepared to fight for justice even though it's only about the symbolic sums of 2500 euros from really it's a joke it's. according to germany's act regulating compensation for national socialist injustice that is the sum to which non jewish victims are entitled. kemah new dicking considers himself a part of that group. is good for me it's not about the money but about the
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recognition that this was a crime with me that's what gets me mad he used the strategy is to wait until nature takes care of it then it's over. the german government argues that the kidnappings can be seen as general collateral damage of war and that therefore there can be no claim to compensation. and it's often argued that the kidnapped children were well treated in contrast to other victims. that was true in herremans case his german foster parents were wealthy his mother was a teacher and head of the regional association of german girls. the father was a high ranking teacher both were nazi party members. came and graduated from school studied at university and became a mechanical engineer. but the parents never spoke to him about his background. back in
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chains to hoffa. is on duty. for the past 30 years he's been working for an organization for the victims of nazi persecution he campaigns for them to receive compensation. from poland has a number of funds from which the germanized children or the children of mothers who were forced laborers receive small payments. like this woman from now on she'll get 50 euros a month. for her by the not offering dearly on this is excellent. but this letter says you will get at least $212.00 swatches. so we've been able to help here we are here say shared by new probably by about a buyout dark. in the early 1990 s. germany paid $500000000.00 each marks to poland as
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a humanitarian gesture as it was called back then. yousef wanted to apply for money for his siblings but they needed to nina's consent. not by my sister and sorrow no no no i will not steal money from the german people because i am dramatically i said yes. barbara has invited a load here to her home they want to talk about the stories of their lives that wound up taking such a similar course. but they actually asked us we all kind of like sisters. for a long time we didn't know if we were german or pay less. but i feel as though we were both very lucky she changed a ship but that a few russian we ended up in families that treated us like their own children and i said questioning. what. could.
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barbaro was 3 when the nazis examined her and approved her for german ization. in 1902 she was placed with a german foster family and grew up as bearable in limbo. like a lot of years she had to return to poland after the war. she was 10 at the time. yeah that's the movie room lawyer boy actually if i always say that my war started after i went back yes i say the same. my parents were no longer alive there was nothing left. i was an unwanted child he was shunted around here and there you couldn't speak polish and write so i couldn't speak the language anymore i was this hitler go ride german swine for us children our return was disastrous but it was understandable that poland wanted its children back jiechi. after the
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war you mean yes. has extreme she'll think it's extremely complicated and the western allied powers made the child's well being the benchmark on the one hand and on the other hand there was the justifiable demand of the polish states that said give our children back to your thirties found themselves and a complicated legal model in terms of international law. violation to feel. a lot here is back home again she lives in big gosh that's 170 kilometers northwest of roads. for years she's been giving public lectures as a witness of history. in a few days she'll be traveling again to germany to tell the story of her life. now come out of here in the album is the photograph taken with my new german moti pick
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me up. more. mrs luisa. she didn't have any children of her. reason darl took the 6 year old to her home in stendhal in saxony on heart. the little girl started going to school there and lead a comfortable life as a much loved only child. 4 years later came the shock. louise and her husband vilhelm received a letter from the polish red cross which tore the family apart. louisa dahl wrote this in response. if the mother of the child is alive we are prepared in view of the mother's terrible suffering and uncertainty during the years of separation to return the child safe and sound to her. of course the biological mother has the 1st right and with
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a heavy heart i will give up the child whom we have come to love and cherish. 'd polish mother. had survived auschwitz. and with this photograph searched the world for her 2 daughters. and found them. when the news came that i was a stolen polish child and had to go back to my home country. and there my musi began to tell me about my siblings who i had forgotten in the course of the 4 years . october of. leo's so for that reason i was not so reluctant to return to poland. but at one spot of i wasn't afraid of
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a tall skinny a boy or girl. but going back was hard a load you had forgotten her native polish. but she could communicate with her mother who spoke excellent german. alone he was lucky that she maintained contact to her german moti. and the 2 women also became friends. was now daughter to both of them. i had 2 mamas. and these 2 mamas loved each other very much. but they understood each other and we all. believed the dolls when they said they had not known who elites are really was the reason dar wrote to the polish red cross. was born in post 9 and after she became ill in
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a children's home in college was then brought to bad policy. that is where i picked up a little an april 25th 1944 mediated by the former lebanese born association the child was placed with me as a pure german child with a german name as an eastern german orphan for adoption. femen luther king's foster mother must have known that he was not a german child she got him in december 942 from zone and visa eleven's born home in koreans ollie's a village near leipzig. his name then was roman russia tough skiing. living was born was a pet project of heinrich himmler. it provided
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a place for unmarried women to have their babies and leave them to be raised the goal was to boost the area and population. zone and these are also served as an institution for children like airman who were abducted from poland yugoslavia and the soviet union to be taken to germany. harriman was one of the 1st children here to be given away to families loyal to the nazi regime. he remembers how it came about. but. i used to always play with my friend all of us and would eat together and it was. all and then a nurse came and said you 2 have to come along to the head. so we went up there and the headmaster sitting at an elegant lady was standing. there later i
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knew it was my foster mother. she wore a hat with a veil. and the head nurse said. you can pick one of the 2 children. and she said right away take little hammer on the pamp you are fatten him out. and the head nurse said so just sign here and then you can take the child with. you. and she took my hand and we went out and took the train to let him go in the fall and let her. go that's how it went. so one of these other you know like a chicken farmer and i want down chicken that one doesn't look so good was what i like. that's how they did it with the children too or. at the
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time here man was just happy that he had someone to take care of him and he got along well with maria luther king. but once he started to try and find out about his background she broke away from him. when she died in the late 1980 s. he did not attend her funeral. at the nuremberg trials american prosecutors tried to press charges for the kidnapping of alien children for purposes of german ization. but the tribunal contested the charges according the defendants of that crime and describing the libyans born organization as a welfare institution. that don't back up process as all here in this respect the nuremberg trials can be seen to have made a tragic legal mistake to classify living as born which ran these children's homes
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as a purely charitable organization and equipped those involved with the challenges from today's point of view that was that related judicial era class a feel entitled. is on her way to the city of fribourg. she knows germany well. she often visited her foster parents here. today she's giving a talk to students at the catholic university of applied sciences as a living witness. as always she tells her life story in german all that will help and that is what they gave us new 1st and last names. until then i had been. and now i was early to say if i leave it.
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a bit well odio says her lectures have also been a form of therapy for her there's a way of coming to terms with her own past but the biggest. damage to the inside are set your time in germany shaky and yet you still consider yourself polish. would you say that germany is also your homeland in a way on. yes i think that's true it is that for me i love to come back here and comments over it and i always say every country has very good people and very bad people and they should. retire shakes story is also a positive one with lots of understanding on both sides and she hopes to keep telling it for as long as she can.
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today use of salva is setting off to the family get together with his sister yanina . but i'm going to have this about the journey that i didn't sleep for a last night yes pretty spot on. the family history is likely to be a topic at the gathering. use of can't forgive yanina for denying that she's polish but he says she is and will always be his sister. saw jean i'll probably die young everyone in the family loves her yes she's warm and empathetic bonds of our though we call are the princess because she's so sensitive so nice and warm article on our stock of your pocket there because by talk us. that's not.
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the money luther king has received a letter from the german constitutional court another defeat he has lost his fight for compensation. but he will continue to search for his roots for the parts of his life that the nazis hid from him. as he was how i don't think i'll find out anything but i'll keep looking. who knows maybe i'll find a nugget somewhere to live in a month one. even in his mid eighties not knowing who his parents were is a source of unease that hammond says will never leave him going.
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