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in the livelihoods of many who survived in the last 7 weeks it has turned the united states into the deadliest place in this pandemic and at the same time it has turned the u.s. economy upside down tonight unemployment in the world's largest economy is that 20 percent in the u.s. but also in asia and here in europe the virus leaves us poorer than we imagine it stealing our paychecks our health and if we're not careful it will also take our shared humanity i'm burnt off in berlin this is the day. to ask about that at 1st i thought i was imagining. people look at my face and then sit somewhere else. when i see a bunch of people outside a bar i cross to the other side of the street to avoid being hassled.
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i'm glad to be working from home these days because i have the sense that even though i live in berlin people don't see me as german and. also coming up tonight on this evening 75 years ago nazi germany was preparing to surrender it would mark the beginning of a new era that the coronavirus may be bringing to an end history once again waiting to be written or waiting to be repeated in the hip we're seeing a shift to the rights in germany poland and many other european countries the resurgence of nationalism and the new radicalization it's smoldering everywhere you've got a show like this. to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with all that could be lost if we allow the pandemic to win. consider our money and our jobs
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in february unemployment in the united states was at an historic low of just 3.5 percent practically everyone wanting to work had work tonight one in 5 americans is without a job in the span of just 2 months the shutdown to stop the coronavirus has also shut down the engine of the world's largest economy unemployment now at 20 percent almost on par with the great depression and this is not just an american story europe is also in are in an unprecedented recession but the virus is claiming much more it's also claiming that which makes us humane across the globe reports of races of discrimination and violence have increased almost in sync with new infections tonight the disturbing diagnosis what the virus is doing to our eyes and what we now see when we look at each other. it all
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started in early march victoria noticed something that shifted when she rode public transportation skeptical glances from passengers others who had moved to different parts of the train. at 1st i thought i was imagining things then i noticed people would look at my face and then sit somewhere else i followed 3 of them just to make sure they didn't simply get off the train and went to other compartments or sat in the bicycle section of. victoria corriveau who is german her parents moved here long before she was born she's used to experiencing discrimination for being a visible minority but once the 1st cases of coronavirus appeared here such incidents became more frequent although berlin is widely seen as a tolerant diversity there's an undercurrent of hatred one man even told her she should spray herself with disinfectant. i've been keeping
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a low profile because i'm afraid of more attacks like that one. i have to admit when i see a bunch of people outside a bar i cross to the other side of the street to avoid being asked. i'm glad to be working from home these days because i have the sense that even though i live in berlin people don't see me as german and. victoria tried to talk to her friends about it but they shied away from the subject she doesn't think they're taking the problem seriously. then through facebook she made contact with people across the country who were having the same kind of experience since the pandemic began they have reported almost daily occurrences of hostility just because they look asian hi nice to see you. on who's from china also lives in berlin he's filmed in city. of racial abuse he's experienced on the subway. and
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a friend told me you should you should totally report it even though i don't have much hope on the. police but because i want to at least to show people that i have this evidence and i'm not going to being silenced all of the tools of the. city time. victoria court of who says it's been helpful to compare notes with others in the same boat that prompted her to create a website that helps bring people together and offer support. this it's important for people to be connected this way in times of social distancing to share their experience so others know what's going on. racism is nothing new in germany and victoria curtis who fears it will be around a long time after the pandemic is over but she's determined to make a difference so people like her feel less alone. over more tonight i'm joined by
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professor alexander white using sociologist who teaches the history of epidemics at johns hopkins university in baltimore professor white it's good to have you on the day we just heard in that report that prejudice is a discrimination that they're enjoying somewhat of a rebirth is that what pandemics do they claim lives and they also take some of our 1 humanity at the same time. i would say that's that's very well put unfortunately the rise of racism and xenophobia can comment when an epidemic is not a new phenomenon historically those who are perceived as others within society and blame for the spread of disease which in turn has been used to justify oppressive policies against marginalized groups it was the same in the 14th century as jews were blamed for spreading plague in europe and burned at the state and a host of racially and sort of phobic we motivated quarantines of occurred you know really from that period up until the 20th century in response to the bondage plague
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and other diseases largely blaming marginalized groups for the spread of this disease and it's important to note that you know this behavior that we're seeing now not only scapegoats people who needed to send but the unfolding pandemic and causes great physical and emotional harm but also waters down the message that everyone's daily decisions from social distancing to voting you know will shape how quickly this disease spreads you know that's a very good point yesterday i interviewed the founder of one shared world which is a movement that's calling for global solutions to our biggest problems but you know i can't help but think that this movement is also a cry for help because the pandemic has shown that the state the governments the institutions that we've known for decades they've sailed us in the pandemic has laid all of that bare what do you say to that. and i think in many ways that's that's right and you know as as we see in the center of this of this pandemic move to the united states we're seeing all sorts of ways you know i myself in baltimore
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are seeing all sorts of ways in which the federal state is not coming through and supporting. the people in ways that that it must and we're seeing the way in which pandemics really exacerbate and show that the gaping holes that are produced by social inequality across the board you know there's a lot of media attention given to the idea that. once we have a vaccine then society will be able to return to normality if you study the history of epidemics do we have good reasons to believe that life after coronavirus will will be better. i think it's hard to say frankly you know i hope that we after this take seriously the fact that you know existing social inequalities economic political racial inequalities have very very real effect on our health care and we're seeing that in this pandemic but
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also there's there's a lot of history suggesting that you know after a pandemic episode things kind of go back to the way they were before and we don't necessarily learn the lessons we we need to learn from these sort of events i hope it's a moment for us to embrace our shared humanity and bring some humanity back to the planet and what about the generation coming of age i was thinking this evening preparing for this talk with you we've got climate change we've got coded 19 the young people today who are becoming adults can they find anything other than crises to divine themselves. i mean that it's an interesting question you ask and you know we're finishing up our semester johns hopkins and i have some brilliant students who are all suggesting you know they're not asking questions about how this will change their lives but they're asking really what's next and what we have to do to make sure this doesn't happen again i think we've seen waves and waves of crises for for generations eat but foundationally there's also you know
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a significant motivation to make sure we don't repeat the mistakes the past and i hope but that's the message that gets carried through after this. you know you are a professor you deal with the leaders of the future what is this pandemic doing to the generation that will be in power or mid century when for example climate change will be full blown yeah i mean i think it is causing a great deal of anxiety certainly amongst them and they're mourning what they've lost they're losing you know the time to be out and about when when they're young and i think that since since i've very disappointing but i also think there's a move to understand these crises you know as you mentioned climate change as a make a list of framework to approach problems like the cohen 1900 endemic not just in terms of an acute medical issue but also in the grip broader context of geopolitics climate change and
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a host of other issues let me close by speaking to the historian in your 75 years ago tomorrow was when nazi germany surrendered that was the beginning of what we know is our times and the pandemic could be the finale of our times do you agree with that. i think much like much like the holocaust and world war 2 in general there were you know the the moment after that war was a time to look back and see what sort of practices got us to such a barbaric in our frank situation and similarly when we look at it even even as we're currently undergoing the pandemic i think it's an important time for us to take a very sobering look at the policies and practices that got us to such a devastating situation and hopefully you know find new international cooperation
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and coordination so that we can prevent this in the future because once only really with with major international collaboration that we can all up and down that's going forward you know that's what we've been hearing since since the pandemic began professor alexander white of johns hopkins university in baltimore professor white it's fascinating talking with you thank you very much and come back and talk with us again thanks so much take care. of china is reporting almost no new cases of covert 19 and the government is pushing for full readmission of the economy but help confident are people that they can safely return to what they used to know was normal we visited one family in beijing to see how they're weighing the risks a bit of normality for 8 year old mono and his parents as restrictions in china have largely been east people slowly return to that pretty epidemic routines
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playgrounds and streets fill up shops have reopened even as official propaganda constantly reminds people to stay vigilant despond reminds the residents be responsible. yeah i mean i don't. you know on the surface the epidemic's influence on our lives is weakening. but i have the feeling that this isn't over yet it still affects our lives our movements. i've just bought an electric scooter so i won't have to use public transport anymore. this young queen manages an art gallery husbanding house young is an artist even before the epidemic took hold he used to work from home while momo spent his days in school and so young we came home for dinner but for the last 3 months the 3 of them had been confined to their apartment. there was
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a lot of friction between the 2 of us in the beginning but after a short while we became a lot friendlier with each other. that's gone quite well you're. just what your. schools are still closed most classes are taught online homework is handed in on a chat up. but most mother is back at work with no more than a handful of daily new cases reported nationwide the government is pushing for businesses to return to normal. or general musharraf. i feel the situation is under control now are i feel safe. and that has a lot to do with the government's response. to the i feel that in such an extreme situation china's system is able to respond better than those of western countries but young is more skeptical of confidence has been shaken during the last few
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months. well. i try not to watch the news too often so i worry less and if i have to i prefer to rely on people i know friends who work in the media and whom i trust as well as people in chat groups who i feel are reliable that's how i try to stay up to date. i avoid state media. says. she does not want to elaborate further she feels censorship is too sensitive to discuss in public the family is now figuring out how to deal with the uncertainties that lie ahead. so morrow is the 75th anniversary of nazi germany's surrender victory in europe day the moment when the 2nd world war came to an end here in europe if you could go back in time to this day 75 years ago you would find berlin like much of europe in
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ash in ruins the contrast is stark but i dare say the empty streets of berlin in the walk down the 2020 seem almost haunted by what went before in 1945 in a moment we'll discuss how the pandemic of the present impacts how we remember the past but 1st a look into berlin's past with technology that's taking the city into the future. all you need is a smartphone to get a glimpse of 1000000000 in may 945 and compare the scenes of destruction to what it looks like today thanks to the virtual exhibition to berlin and beyond book gate and the adjacent square. today alex on the plats is a lively downtown shopping area back then it was an ensemble of charred ruins. the creators of the online exhibition and the app that goes with it say nowadays
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it's more important than ever not to forget the horrors of the nazi era and the 2nd world war. we're seeing a shift to the riots in germany poland and many other european countries a resurgence of nationalism and a new radicalization it's smoldering everywhere. the exhibition which runs until september features people who experienced the war firsthand. as the bombs fell we sort children's bodies shatter that severed hand. culture and gone off the next generation os tao we can't let that happen and the generation that did let it happen had no sense of guilt they did not acknowledge their responsibility. should see. photos taken in berlin at the very end of the war in europe that aren't many people left who lived through the horrors of the nazi regime the 2nd world war and can tell us about it now that makes preserving
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historical memory in the digital realm all the mall and that he cut the war showed how terrible conflict can be and that we should never wish for anything like it again but in order to fight with it when there are still so many conflicts nowadays it's important to point out the value of peace through and it's been fleeting and i think it's germany's responsibility to make sure such mistakes a never made again because of the corona pandemic all major events to mock the 75th anniversary of the end of wanted not to have been cancelled digital commemorative projects go at least some way to offset their absence. well on this eve of the 75th anniversary of nazi germany surrender i'm joined by aren't. he is a history professor at the free university here in berlin professor it's good to have you back on the day you know we just heard in that report there will be no commemorations tomorrow because of the pandemic berlin is still in somewhat of
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paralysis mode from the walk down of the past weeks what has all of this done to this very important anniversary in your opinion. i think ben downey has reminded at least of the elderly germans of the end of the war my parents are about 90 and they talk they've talked a lot of all the end of the war because it's seems to be similar at least at 1st glance i mean. it's a state of emergency it's it's a profound transformation of public life so at least at 1st glance i mean there are similarities and of course it's sad because we cannot read commemorate the end of the. war the collapse of the nazi dictatorship
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which had been which was a major turning point in european history and would history and of course it would have been nice to have least some of the surviving contemporaries. which suffered at the time you say it is because of the pandemic before the pandemic if i had asked you to compare the 50th and 75th anniversary s. and how germany's commemorations have changed what would you have told. i think we now have a 3rd generation. many of those who witnessed the of ends of a prude i'm a night 45. they are. all they will die very soon. so 25 years ago we had a lot of contemporary still in
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a lot of eye witnesses. to us now we have of course the problem to convey the meaning of end of the war because of the dictators who a new generation to the 3rd and even 4th generation which. will of course which does not know a lot about this you know they grandfathers usually have seized. so we need new means to. convey to the meaning. of this profound transformation of this profound russia of the 8 the 9th of may to them. which is a challenge you know you and i spoke earlier this year old the 75th anniversary of the liberation of the auschwitz death camp and you told me that that was the last major anniversary that will include eyewitnesses to to that dark chapter of history
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and we were in the same situation with the anniversary tomorrow so what what is the solution then how do we preserve the memory and the history for the next generation that will only know it as history and not as a memory. i think we have to take up you know contemporary experiences in our present day you know we do have wars we still have. and of course we can relate the experience of the big temple was present day was. to the 2nd world war and we can relate the experience of the victims of dictatorships to the experience of the victims of the nazi dictators. and the perpetrators of all was at the same time and this is. new to. the lamb or
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we have to relate present day events to this to the end of the war and the collapse of the dictatorship at the same time we have to tell people well i mean quick and the allergies are certainly not advisable the pasta was different to some extent so . conveying the in the message but the pos was different but at the same time to some extent at least similar to present day you beds this is really i mean this is a it's very hard to strike this down yet you touched on something i think is is fascinating and we have got about one minute left let me ask you do you think that we tend to almost fetishizing this history of the 2nd world war because it is seemed like the world then was good versus evil it was everything was black and white do we simplify the history of this era too much.
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by this history although if you look at more recent historical studies i mean the gray shades have come out and every emerged i mean for instance the insult you know that you cannot clearly buy perpetrators from victims because in some consolations we have clearly visible perpetrators and victims but at the same times of calls. for traders became victims victims at least at times became perpetrators so i mean in the gray shades and the if you like the differences going beyond black and white without giving up of course our norms professor of our camera as always fascinating talking with you we appreciate your time and your insights tonight on the eve of this 75th anniversary thank you you're most like i'm about.
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