since the global financial crisis germany is now in recession but if the rest of europe is fairing even worse then how bad are things for germany really spider of the us that's still pretty bad i'm really in berlin and this is the day. the pandemic has that the german economy hard the 2.2 percent quarterly loss was by far the biggest drop since the global recession of 2008 and 9 point it'll be very very important for the revival of the german economy that europe recovers fully. i'm not expecting a profit in 2020 we'll be happy if we can absorb the losses even just a little. also coming up but germany's top football league the blunders league it resumes this weekend inside empty stadiums

so for fans used to making a day of it the experience won't be the say you look forward to the game for weeks and you go there. and drink a beer. and now nothing without fans is like having sex on your own. i'm fogle welcome to the day the economic cost of the coronavirus crisis is becoming clear on the news of course is not a good basis figures show the german economy has taken its hardest hit since the 2008 financial crisis shrinking by 2.2 percent in the 1st quarter of the year coronavirus measures clothes shops and restaurants wiped out tourism and sent manufacturing into a tailspin and the government says things will get worse before they get better. germany's g.d.p. data is due me even if slowly but surely the lights of the economy are being turned on again. folks like the country's biggest carmaker opened its main vosburgh plant

a few weeks ago and despite distancing measures is edging towards full capacity. as well as manufacturing the services sector is returning to normal hairdressers opened last week well it's even possible now to meet friends for beer again some cafes and bars open their outdoors areas. while that suggests some hope a lot of damage has been done the german g.d.p. 1st quarter fall of 2.2 percent is a dramatic drop after years of relative stability it also means germany has now officially entered recession with 2 successive quarterly falls and the 3rd quarter will be much worse although the drop is sharp it's not as bad as analysts feared and it's better than most eurozone countries where lock downs have been longer and deeper although that is not necessarily a consolation for the german government given the state of the european economy as a whole. i believe that it will be very very important for the revival of the

german economy that the european economy is recovering to its full capacity. because we are all dependent on suppliers all over europe we're dependent on exports from all over europe it's in our best interests that we do that as it does with this open. with berlin's tourist hot spots still eerily quiet due to travel restrictions it's a reminder that things won't fully get better anywhere in europe until they get better everywhere. well let's take a closer look at this particularly bleak picture we stephen beardsley from a d. to do business so welcome stephen. germany traditionally one of budget surplus has always been plenty of cash in the bank so if these figures do get worse as we've been told to expect what will a recession hit germany in the time of coronavirus look like well it will look like a recession for many other nations for every other nation in many of the same way

as germany will fear for unemployment it will fear that consumers will stop spending and that businesses will stop investing including in labor forces and that will include that will then precipitate more unemployment and that's a cycle that happens during recessions of course germany to this point has cushions unemployment a bit with this program which is the wage subsidies but that can't last forever so it does have many of the same fears as other nations but it also lacks some of the same fears as you mentioned its financial position is very strong it's in a good position to borrow people like german debt and that means that it can fund to help businesses that are in dire straits and they can also make investments that could pay off in the future the key question is really going to be consumer demands and even if the economy's doing well here people look around and they look and they see the e.u. and they may see what's going on in the community that germany is linked to so it's not just about germany spreading these wider than we're talking about 2 percent

contraction for the german economy how does that compare to what other countries are going through because that will get pretty bad yeah i mean it's better than what germany's neighbors are doing for example france italy both believe around 5 percent for france from 4.7 percent 1st quarter minus in both cases for italy. in many ways germany has had a better it has done better in the sense that it's kept factories running it has. it has been able to cushion more of its employees has been able to spend more out coming out construction. actually increased in the month of march and so it has seen a number of things go much better than in other countries it's also not as depended on tourism as countries like italy and france and spain for example has other sectors that come through so in many ways it has been cushions it has done a bit better i mean to get worse because these this this 1st quarter just took in the 1st bit of the of the next set of figures though those are going to be even

worse presumably well yes but that's also what we're living through right now so it's not necessarily going to be a surprise we are seeing around us what's happening it just gives us a way of putting what we're going through in perspective really ok a sort of it's the show with a slightly tongue in cheek question germany's economy is bad but the rest of europe and lots of places around the world even are even wood so relatively speaking it does not mean the kind of doing ok. i mean i suppose so but really you know that's that's really cold comfort for someone who's lost their job in germany writes about economy is still about economy even if it's less bad than perhaps it's neighboring countries it's relative to each economy what they go through perhaps one country can withstand less unemployment in another country also and what's really important here is that germany is very interlinked with the countries around it as i believe was one of those sound bites we had how the single market works here in europe that is going to dictate the german economy the future especially the fate of the euro

that in the long term is very important to germany's future prospects and that's why what's going to happen in the stages ahead as we look at the debt loads that countries like italy and spain countries that are traditionally a lot weaker that can't borrow as well as we look at them being buried potentially under the money that they need to borrow to get things going again then that threatens the euro itself and then that is a long term threat to germany which is a is a job not for national governments but for a super national body like the european central bank what is its track record. board in terms of handling financial crises well if you look at the 2012 the debt crisis that's really well where the e.c.b. has stopped and before that was where former president mario draghi made the famous comment whatever it takes within the mandate is what we will do to secure the position of the euro to preserve the euro and that works markets rallied and they sort of they were able to member states that couldn't borrow as well were able to

borrow well again and so it eased the flow of money and this is coming to another point where people are saying is there going to be another whatever it takes moment for the e.c.b. now the e.c.b. under current president christine legarde is actually seen as doing a pretty good job right now it's increased its debt borrowing it's expected to increase its debt borrowing even more that helps by the way that does help countries borrow a little bit more it takes a bit off their plate and it makes it easier for investors to give that money but there is this question of whether that's palatable to conservatives in germany for example as we've seen i just want to try and not a bright nerd is. there any bright spots on this gloomy economic horizon no. a lot of course we can always say yeah i mean there's going to be there's great ingenuity we see firms that are turning around that are making medical devices things like that but look i mean we talk about a lot of livelihoods here we're talking about a lot of economic disruption we saw what happened during the recession in terms of the political earthquakes that it unleashed well this economy is now worse than the recession so it doesn't take much imagination to see that there could be

earthquakes that come from this is well. tried steven beardsley from creativity business thank you. around the world off facing on a new challenges linked to the coronavirus pandemic parents have to juggle keeping kids fed and to tap into educated and safe often while working from home and their families on the pressure of not getting the support they need. reporters around the world a report now on how covered and in family life. in south africa. is to leave the house the morning for 3 hours to exercise or to take the kids out to play everybody has to wear a smile you have to be home with their kids' school preschools remain clueless and the feet of the day is expected to be

a july and september. here in germany we didn't have nearly as tough restrictions as other countries around the world i would take our 2 small children to the park whenever i wanted for example or you could even buy ice cream over the counter because café stayed open but the pandemic showed german families that the country is not nearly as advanced as it thought it was the sudden closure of schools and daycare centers forced parents to juggle homeschooling and working from home and that meant that inequalities group because most schools lack the technology and training to provide digital classrooms and not every family could fill the learning gap the lockdown has affected how many families function especially in metropolitan cities since most of the households a thing or call in their households family members have been trying to divide the sponsibility of the chills amongst themselves for example and some families i know off men have taken up the responsibility of cooking one whole new family every day

at the same time working mothers are trying to divide their time between work their children and other responsibilities since all the schools and the daycare's continue to remain shut the locked on has hit people in france's poorest suburbs particularly hard 8 associations have been telling me that the number of families in the suburbs asking them for help has increased 10 fold and that might be only the beginning if he beats you he loves you so the saying goes in russia domestic violence was already a huge issue in the country it's considered an administrative rather than a criminal offense but like in many countries things have gotten worse and lockdown one well known n.g.o.s reporting that the telephones of its domestic abuse hotline are ringing off the hook and many people just have nowhere to go because shelters have gone into quarantine as well in this region ventured a young baby with the captain of the family huge a case in houses just like the ones you see behind me but after the libyan government it was

a total not down due to the rising numbers of karuna by steve this reunion. become virtually indeed i have known you think you need to be connected to that they are but now they are using this technology just to be able to be in conflict coming in and be residing in the outbreak of the corona virus has profoundly affected many american families with millions of low wage workers income getting sick and struggling to put food on the table putting on display all this crisis is exacerbated long existing inequalities in american society. health minister has resigned after just 4 weeks in the job health ministry spokesman said nelson was incompatible but present gyre both an arms approach to dealing with the coronavirus crisis as the taj was sworn in less than a month ago after his predecessor also quit in protest the president's coronavirus

process brazil is one of the country's hardest hit by the pandemic with more than $14000.00 deaths of present both and are strongly resisted issuing stay at home. or some calories are british journalists are based in brazil he joins us from sao paulo well welcome to the president has lost 2 health ministers in less than 2 months what is the problem there. well i'm sure if lost is quite the correct. to health ministers have essentially been left dead in. you know little more than a month a century because of disagreements with president bowles and all rove who from the start of this pandemic has always sought to downplay aids and put the economy and you know describe it as a lethal flu and then off with saying that it only affects all of the people and

that you want to be as you know it's important to keep the economy going at the same time the latest disagreement it's understood this hasn't yet been admitted by the minister himself it's understood that the foreign minister left due to disagreements with the president over the use of the drug war a key in. which it's very studies approved doesn't necessary doesn't have doesn't it isn't a cure all isn't it positive i have a positive effect for people who are infected with corona virus and secondly disagreements we look down measures and social isolation across the country specifically. one of the most poignant examples of this was on monday when the president decided by decree that he would allow open bucy palos ball and

james across brazil even though this is actually the responsibility of state governors he sounded to decrease that's effect and in the middle of a press conference the health minister all full. well it. was also about peace and he didn't know about it basically so that your step was probably the most poignant example all the disagreement between the foreign minister and the president. yet let's say let's say for a form a brazilian president on giant balls and autos handling of this crisis. i mean. as a catholic and as a man who believes in god. i keep praying for the brazilian people. if that they were skate this genocide of the responsibility that has been caused by boston r.-o. . some cabbie no surprise i suppose alluded to silva is not a fan of president bowles on araa but how popular is this president's determination

to keep the economy open. well it's understood that mr both noro on saturday and announcements on a national t.v. and radio that the economy should go back to well basically the people should go back to me should open again and that has seen at least 14000 deaths more than 14000 deaths now in fact had been reported and crossed brazil. you know who's the boss and all right he had a meeting with several big business tycoons just the other week in the capital brasilia and they marched across to the supreme court for a spoiler of the moment meeting with the president over the coals basically to pressure paid to reopen the economy and to resist lockdown measures excess roe so again like i say it's the folks at all rove has consistently soules from the beginning to downplay the pandemic and say that it only affects old people and that

basically get caught in the is just as important you know many of these critics basically say that without people the economy's not going so well with this huge looming recession across the globe it's going to hit let's you know america specifically very hard what's the point in opening. the pointy opening restaurants and i and opening up the economy nobody's going to consume it's expected in brazil that it's going to be at least a 5 percent contraction of g.d.p. . and possibly a 20 percent unemployment by the end of the year so you know most critics would say that's not really the ideal conditions for people to go back to consuming and you know consumption is the most of the brazilian economy so base brazil we facing. a triple crisis here a crisis all the pandemic bruce who recession and

a crisis of leadership here quite frankly to thank you for the. insight power. thank you. for germany's bundesliga kicks off again this weekend the 1st major european football league to resume play since covered 19 restrictions cause a suspension of the season in mid march but matches will be played in front of empty stands one of the weekend's games is between 2 of the fiercest rivals in german football dortmund and shocker d.w. asked fans how they felt about being kept out of the stadium. this time everything is different the dormant stadium an empty cell section no faith in the emotions the prestigious darby between top minshull has turned into a ghost. not a 4 nor did you fear for i know hundreds of people there in the south section and you miss them you look forward to the game for weeks and you go there meet him and her and drink a beer. and now nothing without fans is like having sex on your own 6 along.

in his life time bruno records has only missed 4 home games of his beloved made he experienced his 1st top minshull to darby 51 years ago so missing out now especially hurts. my concern for me and the money is you just can't change it i'm sad and i don't know what i'll do on saturday if the weather's good i'll probably go for a walk this season is over for mange with domains opponent show everything is also different the shelter fan club this stilla has only a few guests and to prevent fans from cheering too closely to one another at a shelter the goal the pubs owner might not show the darby on t.v. but there is still a bit of anticipation. tsunami obvious always highly emotional i don't sleep leading up to it and then what happens on saturday at 330 i don't

known well freak out anyway but we have to keep our distance it's very important. to. the fans are looking forward to the 1st ghost darby in football history with mixed feelings but they all agree on one thing a darby without fans has no real value. what is going to be a big weekend whichever way it goes from day to useful what they say welcome thank you how would a football boss is that able to persuade authorities to allow the league to restart when so many other sports have been stopped while their had a very methodical approach and since day one when the pause you know happened they were working closely with doctors as well as politicians and then they when they presented their plan to the state the authorities gave in the green light you know but i i must add that you know fans were polled should the but as they can resume a lot of fans are against it but the authorities gave it the green light and now the entire world is watching i believe the bundesliga will be the benchmark but we

can't deny there's a sense of trepidation out there because one team better braman just reported that not a player but a family member tested positive for cocaine 1000 this player is quarantined for 14 days so this player will miss out on the upcoming match but you know in terms of the church the. other leagues around europe they're all going to be watching to make sure and see you know if this blueprint will prove successful and not only in europe but also across the pond in the in the united states as well a lot of sports leagues the major leagues baseball that and others are all watching the but as they go estimations are billions will be tuned in because it's the biggest show in town right now ok well obviously complying with quarantine policies is going to be difficult and this is already proving difficult for coach wright heiko hale if he hadn't made his debut yet and part of the this agreement is that teams will be quarantined about

a week before they play well this particular coach decided to leave his hotel to buy toothpaste in skin cream now you know i think when you look at the time this happened this was after a player had already acted up you know and disobeyed you know the social distancing rules for a club in berlin now you fast forward you see this coach doing it he admitted it really wasn't the best movie shot himself in the foot he really wasn't being the role model not only for his players but also you know for the league itself so he excepts all responsibility and he will not be present not the way you want to start off campaigning coach so these matches that going to be played behind closed doors but when the lockdown started there were there were there were 5 of those who gathered still outside some stadium seating is going to happen again yeah i think one fixture in particular there will be some warnings even though and potential gatherings this is dormant in shock and you know this was a match that we saw you know featured in the report typically this draws 80000 spectators you know and the police union in that particular state they're opposed

to having matches behind closed doors for the particular reason because it's such an emotional game and fans cannot stay away we have some sound from the active the acting chief of the police union let's take a listen. we as the police are strongly against the plain of these ghost games from our point of view there is a large potential for trouble and we assume not all fans will stay at home and we have assumed that there will be places where there is a possibility that there will be violence and then my colleagues will have to intervene there is a significant health risk in these corona times and these are situations that we don't want. so in this state in particular i think you can expect a police presence at least to deter you know fans from gathering ok and there were reports of some players expressing their reservations about such an early return has not changed yet you know initially the comments were you know there are more

important things in football you had some players expressing concern because their family members have preexisting health conditions and that would expose him obviously to a greater danger if they were to acquire the you know the virus you know but i think the players have backpedaled a bit and i think they just all fall in company a lot and you know right now i believe the coaches got those warnings and they counseled their players and gave players an opportunity to not play without any consequences but the players you know for all accounts that i've gathered so far are will suit up and play because it's important i think about this whole role model idea that they do obey all the rules and then get on with their skin just a quick word about the sort of game to expect that it's a come talk sport in a in a world where we don't do contact so what are we expecting you know i think that that's the $1000000.00 question phil i think the intensity will not be at the level we are accustomed to seeing because the players have not had the opportunity to

fully train and then you know they have a new policy where they have 5 substitutes now to give the players a little more time to rest obviously but this might not even you know prove affective and then one thing i did find out that there's some teams are really working closely with their sports psychologists because they have to figure out how to really perform and play at a high level with no fans because it's such an electric environment the players feed off you know the intensity of the fans and all of these things that will be there so we'll have to wait and see i mean i'm a popcorn ready i'm really dissipating you know what ok out of action plan you and the rest of the world for the. back here ok. that was a day as ever of a conversation continues online you'll find us on twitter i've asked you this don't forget to use iraq a verdict of. fun

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