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. under to welcome somebody extraordinary nursing professionals as we celebrate their tional nurses they especially cation in the white house national nurses day is a moment to one of the people on the frontlines of the pandemic. don't trump is here to say thank you and sign a declaration well the necessary a look here laurie as he turns to the press a reporter asks a question about the economy in his answer trump turns his fire on china framing the spread of the coronavirus like a military attack this is where the worst attack we've ever had this is worse than pearl harbor this is worse than the world trade center it's never been an effect like this. and it should have never happened could have been stopped at the source could have been stopped and show that it should've been stepped right at the source . and it was of course we're all used to donald trump mouthing off that's his
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trademark but this is important this matters to all of us whether you live here in europe or anywhere in the world the 2 most powerful countries on earth slipping deeper and deeper into a profound form of conflict some are even calling it a new cold war and just like the coronaviruses self this has the power to define our age. from the military to technology the economy to political influence to bribery between the us and china is intensifying in just about every well a few minutes distant now the outbreak of the corona virus in china and it spread around the world has taken tensions to a new extreme. i think the charm of us relation to this. 'd historical sense try and. stop these diplomatic ties in the last 4 decades because state is
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very serious. and very dire i think we're at a point where tensions bilateral tensions are really really high i think it's going to be a very dangerous year and the world is going to have to face up to some very important choices the european friends to decide what they stand we are allies with. well. look we just follow. open in cuba like person like sheep it will be all of us to realize. where our heart is in a way as it were the business interests or is it towards your values and at some point will have to make a choice now one thing in this story that's so important to emphasize is that this clash between the united states and china isn't just about the coronavirus to pandemic we're living through right. now concedes all of a.c.f.
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misses if it's a reset and everything but these tensions between the u.s. and china have much deeper roots so this video we're not just going to ask what's going on now we're going to dig down and find out what lies beneath and finally we're going to ask what's coming next all we are about to enter into a new cold war. january 2020 is just a few months ago but it feels like another era donald trump went to davos and hailed his relations with his chinese counterpart she jim thank you very much a relationship with china right now has probably never been better we went through a very rough patch but it's never ever been better my relationship with president xi is an extraordinary one he's for china and for the u.s. but other than that we love each other. trump was buoyant tough to sign in what was
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being called a phase one trade deal with china easing tensions have made a long running trade war the trump himself had started even as the cove in 1000 outbreaks prating february trump was still flattering xi jinping rather for being very hard late last night out of character for president he. would drop devoutly about the coronavirus there were really hard. i think they're doing a very professional. but soon the outbreak hit the united states with full force new york became one of the worst hot spots in the world and the trumpet ministration came under massive fire for failing in its response. at the same time evidence was mounting that china hadn't been open about the early days of the outbreak losing crucial time that could have saved lives and speculation even crew about whether. a special laboratory in blue heart was the source of the virus so as
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the political pressure has intensified on the trumpet ministration donald trump has seized on china as the true villain of the coronavirus crisis china should be held responsible for what they've done they have hurt the world very very badly they've hurt themselves also but they've hurt the world very very badly for 47 years and with the election campaign looming pro trump groups who put out ads attacking china and linking it to his opponent joe biden the message don't blame us for what's going on blame china the data suggest that it might be effective 2 thirds of americans have a negative view of china a figure that's risen higher and higher in recent years all this is the backdrop to those comments we making when meeting those nurses at the white house. this is worse than pearl harbor this is worse than the world trade center it's never been
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attacked like this china for its part has been firing back. all the fendi that make all. easier quite as she thought of being too showy and when he changes back property that yoko you'll see 2 thing sure that is turning into a bitter blame game played by both sides one thing that i do think is interesting between us in this whole blame china strategy is that the chinese also have a plain u.s. strategy. melissa chan reported from china for al-jazeera for several years before her credentials for a vote she now works for a number of outlets including d.w. news asia and some of their diplomats have come out to say and blame the united states as being the ones who created this virus during a military game international military games that was held in china they are accusing. the americans of having brought the bars to china to hand and so you have
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this geopolitical spat where both sides are 8 arguing sometimes based on what appears to be unsubstantiated conspiracy theory we've been speaking to analysts in both china and the u.s. about this and of course they have very different perspectives but there's one thing that they do agree on relations have never been this bad but i think the u.s. relation is. historical sense try and us as the established diplomatic ties. for decades when her young heads the center for china and globalization think tank in beijing and has close ties to the chinese government there is a wide. consensus 'd among. the vicious here in china and got more among business community that somehow us on a more. it's back on china and the current state is they're very serious and it's
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very dire i think we're at a point where tensions bilateral tensions are really really high. now there's a lot of views us china relations from a transatlantic perspective she spent 20 years as a china expert at the french ministry of defense now she's based at a us think tank she points out that the coronavirus crisis isn't just putting the trumpet ministration under political pressure but beijing too and that adds to the danger if there is a prospect a recession in the next few months and then there's always the possibility that the regime will want to deflect the pressure the internal pressure on something else and the possibility of conflict is not at to be dismissed unfortunately that would be of course various cattery and their risks will be enormous all this tension already goes way beyond angry statements and tweets this has real
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consequences right now things that could matter in the fight against the coronavirus the u.s. pulled funding from the world health organization accusing it of being too cozy with beijing it was a dramatic move for an example of how the trumpet ministration has broken with america's previous global approach to crises like this the last handling that we are. told in africa and at that time the united states to reaping the role internationally to gouda made efforts to push back to fight against a bull. high and hard booty call for is a veteran german member of the european parliament and leads the parliament's delegation on china. today there is no not even at that an attempt to show leadership of the united states china's. everybody sees and china tries to
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exploit that meanwhile the pandemic has exposed america's dependence on china for essential medical supplies this is fueled talk of a major we think decoupling of america's economy from its deep ties with china. and donald trump has egg this on one of his most striking comments so far he's even raised the prospect of a complete detachment between the u.s. and chinese economies. in an interview with the fox business channel he said we could cut off the whole relationship now if you did what would happen we'd say $500000000000.00 made no explanation of that figure but even by his standards this was a radical thing to suggest that the u.s. really cut all ties with china well we'll get to that question later on in the video 1st there is dig down to the roots of the current crisis. 'd 'd
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'd 'd 'd the story begins 40 years ago with this man done show pain he took power in beijing after the death of mao to dung in the late 1970 s. began to develop an economy that had been crippled by decades of communist experiments throughout dung stuck to a modest approach to china's role in the world outside effectively don't stick your neck out only don't shopping history is one of the extraordinary figures of the history of the 20th century foremost and prime minister kevin rudd remembers that time he worked at the australian embassy in beijing. in the 1980 s. it took this maoist rick otherwise called china in the courtroom illusion and threw a internal party coup took out the maoist ideologues and instead inserted what's known as a pretty magic economic program domestically or internationally which turbocharged
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china's economic growth economic development didn't mean an end to oppression potential and square massacre in the end of dunc's time in 1909 brought the condemnation of the world but under dung successes china's economic growth continues and with the return of hong kong from british rule in 1970 it gained a significant new stepping stone into the world economy. and you could see the 21st century so far as the incredible story of china's rise to become a global power but what's really striking if you look at a timeline of the last 20 years is milestone after milestone where china took a step forward and the united states stumbled. in december 2001 china joined the world trade organization it was the key moment in
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becoming part of the world economy joining the w t o provided a massive boost to growth in investment and triggered a boom in low cost manufacturing as firms from around the world turn to china so what was happening in america at the end of 2001 it was reeling from the $911.00 attacks and launching into 2 decades of war that still haven't fully ended today. fast forward to orcus 2008 in china was in the limelight as never before the beijing olympics were like a coming out party. for an ever more confident power. just 3 weeks later lehman brothers went bankrupt intensifying the worst financial crisis since the great depression the world economy took a huge hit but the impact was deepest in the west and for the 1st time china's
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economy played a significant role in powering the world back to recovery so you can see these years in the aftermath of the financial crisis is the time when the balance of power between the u.s. and china was shifting quietly but significantly. the american economy was in deep trouble and the federal government was borrowing massive amounts of money to keep it afloat here to china played an active role within 3 years of the lehman crash china more than doubled its holdings of u.s. federal government debt becoming the biggest foreign lender to the united states at well over one trillion dollars even some of america's success stories have chinese d.n.a. the i pod an i phone for instance when manufactured in china is ever more sophisticated factories.
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so things were looking pretty good for china when this man became its new lead in 25 to chichi. boast to power just as china's economy was overtaking america it's a key measure of purchasing power. teaching thing is an absolutely pivotal figure in this story because accession to power marked the moment that china really shifted up a gear from that primarily economic development that began a generation earlier and done show paying something much more assertive and much more consequential for the rest of the world in one of his 1st big speeches he spoke of chinese dream. very very you want. to run. would you prefer. to jewish. woman. be for. this was a confidence to say that china success was no accident that it didn't happen
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despite being thorough tarion power but because of it going to vi's in beijing wang who says that china's track record against democratic neighbor india proves the point. now china's of 5 pounds or so so. far they just want to work to a. more. acceptable a bit more tolerant just a few months into xi jinping is time in office there was another of those moments where you saw america's stumbling just as china moved ahead. for a time in autumn 2013 the us didn't even have a functioning government american politics had become so divided the congress couldn't agree on how to fund basic services they simply shot. down american
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political system was breaking under intense polarization the fallout from a decade of war and financial crisis. around the same time she chimping was in jakarta where he announced china's most ambitious project ever he called it one built one road evocatively named after the historic silk trading route. built and wrote was a monumental plan to connect the infrastructure china's rest of asia and beyond just europe and africa the message look at what we've built in china it's bringing it in. the project let loose hundreds of billions of dollars worth of chinese investment particularly into bella ping countries it was especially attractive to governments with patchy records on governments and human rights with the signal funding would come without western strings attached that meant that china wasn't just exporting infrastructure it was exporting its way doing things to what they're
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saying is you know it works for us so you don't have to choose a liberal democracy for your own countries if you don't want to because our own example proves that you can. somehow like us. and be successful too and not only that but through the belt and read initiative. we china are going to be able to help you grow economically through the distribution of loans or investments and and we're not going to look at. your political records or your human rights records or your transparency or your anti corruption levels in your own country where we were not interested in that and that message has found a huge number of takers over the past 7 years with more than $100.00 countries joining belsen bros in one way or another it's creating
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a growing bloc of nations many of which have become highly dependent on china for economic growth and development what you could call the global sphere of influence china wants to poor smaller and weaker countries into its own orbit. and create some sort of saying no centric sphere of influence what train now wants out of those countries is a level of. a level of respect a level of deference. but this deference and respect is not just symbolic i think it's it has real concrete implications those implications can be onerous and sri lanka discovered it's been a hot spot of bill to break investment with this debts to beijing manty ceded control of a key seaport to china for 99 years their fear is that similar fates could wake
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governments in other parts of the world and what's more that sphere of influence doesn't just have financial implications they're political too. because of this enormous. leverage our economies leverage that china has over other countries none of these countries will or governments will want to go against china's well you see it's it's it's not just a symbolic deference it's also a very it has a very concrete application to how china is one you know acting and behaving and other countries are basically paralyzed because they don't have any ways to go against. to go against it so belsen road is substantially huge source of power and influence for china around the developing world but let's take a look at the map again this is not just developing countries that are joining in
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just last year in europe italy greece and portugal all signed up to the project xi jinping has received a great fanfare as he toured his new partners capitals place is still feeling the aftereffects of the 2008 financial crisis and now the economic crash caused by the pandemic has made them more desperate than ever for sources of growth these countries are in the european union there are nato 2 core members of the western alliance now are forging closer ties with china china's for a z. into europe don't stop there as we saw in a recent video it's made highly publicized deliveries of supplies to many european countries during the coronavirus crisis seen as an attempt to patch up its image of the outbreak began on its soil. and in another initiative called 17 plus one china has created a platform for cooperation with
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a swathe of central and eastern european countries from the baltics to the balkans most of them young democracies tempted by the prospect of chinese investment. on the military front. china's been a financing rapidly to it's been strengthening its foothold in the strategically central south china sea here the united states has been pushing back frequently sending warships through the region to assert its freedom to use the waterways but in every realm of military power china continues to advance the fundamentals of china's economic power who pushes for now extraordinary military breech. in conventional military capabilities and cyber capabilities now before what about political development at any signs that china is opening up politically as it has done economically well here the answer is a very clear. pro-democracy protests in hong kong have only seen beijing tighten
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its grip on the territory raising concerns that it won't on of the agreement signed when it regained control of the former british colony. and in the western region of shin jang the muslim minority we go population is undergoing repression on an epic scale this many as a 1000000 people subjected to reach education camps d.w. has reported on systematic abuses revealed in leaked documents far from opening china's politics up xi jinping has tightened its authoritarian system and his consolidated his own power removing limits so that he could potentially rule for life since she didn't bring are taken control of well all things chinese in charlotte on the mainland. china house seen what could be described as amounting to
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a kind of change collective leadership term limits for the top decision as certain small never of well i don't want to say liberty but allowing civil society to to find neat churches in which it could play an active role. at least addressing human rights issues all about how fast than ishtar. and has china's global ambitions grow that commitment to its or for a terrier model has more and more implications for the rest of the world xi jinping doesn't only try to be a global leader it tries to be a global bully this leadership obviously problems that if they push harder they can establish a worse china centric order. would have been inconceivable 1520
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years ago or so what was happening in the us since we last checked in well those political divisions that we saw forcing a government shutdown back in 2030 have only got deeper and deeper. the election of donald trump in 2016 protests to its logical conclusion and past so much attention has focused on either russia helped him to win you could argue that actual or his victory was all about china. i covered that 2016 election as one of the w.'s u.s. correspondents and i went to a lot of donald trump rallies and everywhere he went every time he spoke he always talks about china his views on this deeply held trump has been remarkably consistent about china or someone who's known for being fairly inconsistent if you look at his rhetoric in the 1980 s. it wasn't china that was the man it was japan but it's clear that he has
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a certain view on trade where he believes that certain countries take advantage of the united states and are takers are exporters to the united states and have really benefited from american consumers and what he's done in terms of his rhetoric with china is essentially transferred his point of view in 1980 s. when he was talking about japan and made it a china issue and you could see that when he was on the campaign trail in 26 so he can quite in a historical past and say i have been warning you guys about china all a lot we need to be tough. so little wonder trance trade war with china has been one of the defining features of his presidency so far. so let's take stock for a moment of where things stood when the coronavirus hit. in the last 7 years under xi jinping china has become an undisputed economic superpower and has rolled out who global sphere of economic and political influence its military power is rapidly
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growing and far from backing down on its belief in authority tarion government it thinks it's been proven right and offers it success as a model to the world a model that says you don't need democracy to get ahead. meanwhile in the us years of war the financial meltdown and political dysfunction culminated in the election of donald trump a man who's made it his mission to take the fight to china we've ended up with 2 leaders in the united states and china which are now the stupidly nationalist. president trump make america great again. and president xi jinping who has discarded dones helpings cautionary advice about your strength by your time so therefore the dynamics of these 2 leaderships has made the structural factors at
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work even sharper if you look to some people in the truck administration of. all shook their parkville for instance it's tending towards all out confrontation so what now this is all pointing to a new cold war. it's november 28th seen an attack is underway in karate pakistan. to target the chinese consulate in a city. police blamed separatists from the state of village stan. there down on the coast china is developing one of the most important projects in the belton road initiative the giant port complex at the city of quad on the site itself has been the target of attacks to. what is an absolutely crucial piece of
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infrastructure for china a direct foothold in the arabian sea connected all the way to cash in china's shin jiang region why are militant attacks in pakistan even relevant to our story well think about it so far we've been talking about belt and roads is an economic political initiative but the more assets china has out in far flung parts of the world the more it's going to want to keep them safe and that's where beltre row takes on more of a military dimension nowadays holo explains they're looking at different ways to deal with their security risks some of it is for example what happened in pakistan which is subcontracting the pakistani army and the military pakistani military forces and specific create your protect the china pakistan
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economy corridor and so you have several thousands of pakistani soldiers who are devoted to the protection of the workers the chinese workers and the projects along that corridor so you already have china's subcontracting a special division of pakistan's army looking to the future former prime minister of australia kevin rudd foresees a more active role for china's own military in protecting belts and road will be our right short i think one of the things we have to be very careful monitoring is what now happens with b r i'm interested in the extent to which trying to move 'd to militarize those relationships for example both in south east asia. and across the so called string of pearls that is. maritime bases in the in the indian ocean straits politically in sri lanka in bangladesh but also in pakistan and now prospective in iran and
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already in djibouti in the red sea where china is beginning to form deploy naval and air assets and piece of the source of assets where belton road could turn into a staging ground for a cold war style confrontation with united states. so under those circumstances if we begin to see the american push back in those 3rd countries says then it's not a large gap between what we now have which is an emerging as it were a diplomatic chasm for that to become a chasm of assuming more military characteristics it seems to have so many echoes of the last cold war between the united states and the soviet union there is one fundamental difference between then and now in the 20th century cold war the american and russian economies have virtually no ties with each other in the 21st century between the u.s.
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and china that is very different they do a lot of business together and the characterization of given the u.s. 'd china relationship in the future of the post curve in order is cold war 1.5 and the reason i choose that term is because 'd the one differential between. the previous cold war with the soviet union and the current the strength of the people's republic of china is a degree of it economic it of connectedness between china and the us. that interconnectedness wetterling i phones with him as any kinds of goods and services has been a key economic story of the past 2 decades decoupling as the expression goes would involve massive disruption on both sides the 70000 us stop in china and john root is someone who the last 100000000000 us dan rather europe china for example. sells more cars in china than in the u.s.
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and china's largest market also at u.s. so so the economy is not that easy but some decoupling is already happening the u.s. has banned american firms from working but the chinese 5 g. mobile networks giant whey and there's the pandemic drags on more and more sectors might bring that. supply chains back home if finance gets hit by the decoupling trying to that could mean a much bigger break that is starting to unravel not just in trade through the trade was not just through technology but where the united states is trade union creasing the restrictive approach not just in 5 g. but prospectively in financial markets as well and if the economic ties and bind unravel then you begin to look at the characteristics of the cold war we've been through once before they were dark and donald trump is threatening to push down that road to economic decoupling remember the interview with fox business that we
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flashed up earlier where he talked about cutting off the whole relationship with china and said it would even save hundreds of billions of dollars you can just imagine that becoming a centerpiece of trump's reelection campaign this year bring back all that business from china to rebuild the u.s. economy post coronavirus and make america great again as for china well over in beijing wang who says it's ready fan of. us use force in. the couple in it's going to 1st hurt us companies 2nd they're going to help china it's going to help john through. all china venture we develop our knowledge you and system you may slow down some but the country you overcome this is what a new cold war could look like with the u.s. and china severing more and more toys economic and political and they're treating
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into their own spheres of influence the u.s. and its western allies on one side and china and belsen rhodes on the other and just like the last cold war this could mean that the rest of the world has to decide which side what this is a night message. rio for europe in particular its economy has become even more into links with china than america's had the level of economic and. huge germany although it's worth more to china the u.k. for it's always been the global combined. to some on the outside europe has just been coasting along. where european friends did to decide what they stand for. europe's historical policy with. integration with china has been. periodic we complained about human rights
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make as much money as you can and consign any security policy concerns to the united states and its pacific allies the european union has started to toughen its tone on china a year ago it came out with a new strategy paper that they described as 3 part relationship with china one based on partnership competition but also systemic rivalry the 2 sides have been preparing for a major summit on investment between europe and china later this year one way europe wanted to demand a more level playing field for european companies doing business in china. that summit has been thrown up in the air by the pandemic and there are questions about just how tough europe will be on huawei for example the e.u. has not followed america's lead with a ban has just recommended that member states limit while ways access to the most
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sensitive parts of the 5 g. network. individual european countries are free to take a harder line if they want to see the german m.e.p. gritty call for says that germany should do so let's check whether all the basis of national security to serve the logical dependency concerns it's a screwed approach to a lot always into the private unit and i have long come to the conclusion that this would not be. but while way is now trying to sweeten the deal saying it will build a 5 g. equipment factory in france and is beijing continues to nurture relationships with european stakes there are doubts that europe will be able to unite around tough decisions involving china. this is a way for maging to be able to make sure that and europe is they
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rioted. and some and because in europe and in the u.s. based on on the need for a consensus speak before you take in the decision and the level you need just one country not to agree on this consensus to be able to. to discard or to disregard a joint posture in societies and and countries where we still haven't fully emerged from the aftermath of their financial crisis of 20082000 i i mean these economy go for 3 key is that china's putting on the table on the table can be quite vital in this is the next enormous leverage that beijing has on of the station of these countries so you don't want to. upset or to anger or trying now by voting against or
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by voting for a measure that with our limits the chinese investments in europe and his the same public opinion here in europe is also pretty divided a new opinion poll in germany shows that germans are almost equally split between those who want closer ties with america and those wanting to put china 1st. that's an extraordinary result when you consider the depth of the historic relationship between the u.s. and germany but it could get even worse donald trump has made repeated threats to open up a new trade between the u.s. and the european union. so that's why a europe finds itself right now. facing the possibility of a new cold war between a difficult america and an encroaching china what should he do as europeans
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in aware of. i think we're very interested in in free trade and we're very interested in keeping all the lines open and transparent. but how is that going to be. still possible in the years to come f china continues to keep going the same direction that here it has taken for the last 5 years. where you see and increasing. closing down including repression and increased aggression. so. i don't know if we will be all of us to to realize. where our heart is in there is it still worth business interests or is it tourism values. at some point will have to make a choice i really believe so we are allies with them now but that does not
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imply that we just follow the lead of them incapable leader like person from my cheap we don't believe in. restructuring international government of wanting to be a jolt holds a big power consultations we insist as europeans to save international relations based on the rule of law international rules law and most of our commission so and and of course we give much more relevancy to international challenges. benefit a lot from chinese contributions president trump has never thought about the chinese contribution to the fight against climate change because in his mind why would changes with chinese folks and speaking out from australia former prime minister kevin rudd says it's time for like minded nations to get to. and try at
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least to limit the fallout of whatever us to come i would if i were the mainstream europeans team up with comparable countries or of parallel clout in the international system to support financially and diplomatically these essential institutional pieces of machinery of the system of global governance now while the elephants continue to rampaging the living. this is partly started happening already the e.u. led an online fundraising effort to coordinate to find a coronavirus vaccine china only scented genia delegate and the u.s. didn't even take part but kevin rudd says it is essential to keep multilateral cooperation at life or at least on life support. keeping the institutions of global governance afloat and functioning to the greatest extent possible until we reach
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a very formal strategic librium with china united states or alternatively a new era of detente is arranged and which defines the areas in which a cold war will be conducted and not conducted. this is the new world that's a pairing on the horizon of well remains not just by the coronavirus of by a new type of cold war. weeks living beings ensure the wellbeing of their progeny. communicate with others of don't. feel pain and are neither she nor animal. trainers. join scientists on an exciting expedition into the world.
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