when george ford's neck was pinned down to the street by the knee of a minneapolis policeman 3 other officers stood by and watched they could see bystanders were recording everything in still they did nothing to intervene they now all face charges tonight in america and in europe trust in law enforcement under arrest the men and women in blue have the public seeing red in a world that is anything but color blind i'm burned off in berlin this is the day. it's terrifying i thought it would be bad and the people that are there to protect . us it's been like that and it's like cast good like cast tag that black people die and we still have to deal with racism discrimination trying to for the

skin tired of it i'm tired of just the way it's being treated. my grandmother and her hometown and my grandfather were both civil rights activists and both white and the so i understand what you know needs to be done you know growing up with them and seeing the changes a bit but they. also coming up tonight when the injustices far away serve as a mirror to that which is close to home the echoes of racism in america here in germany. towards jokes floyd the set of george floyd an african american has shaken many people here in germany and around the world it has also shaken the german government this was a horrific and avoidable death and it is defeatist going. to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with the

police the best and the worst the united states in. just the past week has shown the world 2 very different faces of law enforcement in minneapolis we saw the cruel and inhumane come alive as a black man met his death at the hands of police and according to statistics provided by the city of minneapolis this ugliest of behavior is not necessarily an anomaly the city's police use force against black people at 7 times the rate of whites and yet this week we have witnessed inspiring and emotional moments between officers and the protesting public police shaking hands hugging and marching with angry citizens and what about those images of policeman taking a knee to show solidarity with the protesters the identity of law enforcement pulled in all directions at the same time officers have been tasked with keeping the peace a bit violence and looting in cities under curfews more than $9000.00 have been

arrested and numerous police officers have been fired for using excessive force. another standoff between police and protest is. 'd both ends of new york's manhattan bridge temporarily blocked by police after the 8 pm curfew kicks in the defiant crowds trapped until the brooklyn side of the bridge is reopened for the coming out well let's go over. the roof over the top it's a piece of joint u. . s. and. others to defy new york's curfew marching through the city to protest at the death of george floyd an african-american at the hands of police most were peaceful but there were reports of violence including by some police officers.

grabbed innocent people for no reason and just started like a coffin unfortunately the ground this do was abuse a journalist and a press does a press pass and a person to the ground. president trump has threatened to deploy the military and has already called up more than $20000.00 national guard troops. it's a move that angered many including former presidential hopeful elizabeth warren because it's about all this way so here's an opposing ireland one hour more people are here want to go a little protest against the restraining order and even the pope has spoken out condemning racism and violence. we cannot tolerate or turn a blind eye to racism and exclusion in any form and yet claim to defend the sacredness of every human life. and at the heart of all

this a human tragedy. the mother of george floyd stuart or on able to hold back her tears and the full low paid. infamy of yours because they want justice for hill. justice for him because he was. no matter well him about it they should. in this is the group he would go to. those calls for justice ringing out across the united states and beyond. well one of poland tonight's retired police lieutenant charles p. wilson he is chairman of the national association of black law enforcement officers he spent 45 years in law enforcement he joins me tonight from providence rhode

island incident wilson it's good to have you on to the day you know we're learning tonight just like i'm sure you are that all 4 of these officers involved in the death of george floyd they have now been charged eric cho vin the man who needed the neck of george ford he's now been charged with 2nd degree murder now all of this coming knowing days after the event that has rocked the u.s. what's your reaction tonight but i want to say thank you for inviting me on your. detractors were were do. and upgrade the i'm. most likely appropriate. how much of the impact that's going to have on what has been taken place nobody is for sure yet. i end it people need to recognize that they do

is bet having upgraded their charges and charging the other 3 officers will help to curtail some of the more violent parts of the protest it had been going on. lieutenant you said the upgrade from from 3rd degree murder charges to 2nd degree he said it's most likely appropriate do you have any doubts about it no no there was never any doubt. they did action that they took against some mr cloyd was improper. horrendous. if you many. then how many young we can use all all kinds of bad you too stupid to describe it but it was just plain wrong and illegal you're no place in

the long lexicon for that type of activity i want to read from a position paper from your organization. quoting here you know you've condemned police brutality and you've gone on record saying that policing is inherently biased against people of color now that paper that i'm reading from wilton it is from may of 2008 that's 12 years ago and it could have easily been written today what has happened what's been going on the bus ticket last week. it was within the last week and a half. i think the quote is actually down at the institution of policing is inherently biased against people of color and low income and it was designed to be that way. that is the

historical foundation that my counterparts have to understand and accept. only then can we start to move forward with trying to better the services. courts people in the community do you see something positive when you see law enforcement officers now taking a need to show solidarity with the protesters i see it adds as a hopeful. us ability i mean we've. in some respects it may be nothing more than a coup by guy. what people have to recognize.

on the 900000 some odd police officers across the country. it's very few of them that. was engaged in the type of activity that you saw in many hours. unfortunately those are the ones that the media. puts the highlight off they don't highlight those officers who are actually out there doing a good job. taking care of people in the community in hansing the relationships between police and community. we know that the problem is just goes officers that ministrations and managers. have problems getting rid of but these are people who should never have been on the gov't or the us well it's

a let me ask you i'm a visit you're talking about perceptions i'm sure you've seen the images of those police officers tasering those 2 young african-americans in atlanta this week we understand that 2 officers have been fired and both of those officers were african-american now when i heard this story i expected that those officers would be white what does that tell us what does it tell you about our assumptions here when we're talking about police brutality least brutality can exist no matter which side of the fence it is opposition is and always has this we don't care who perpetrate it cracked white or indifferent. we believe that any officer who perpetrate. kalki

or excessive use of force and any officer who simply goes along with it or refuses to call it out should all receive the same odd. charges just saying. no the due process and. so human and everything. and it doesn't matter who it is or ask you about what the british association today the national association of law enforcement it condemned the actions of those 4 officers in minneapolis it also highlighted that law enforcement in the u.k. is policing by consent meaning that the people want the cops to be present can you say the same about us policing at the moment.

if you aren't talking idea of right now i have to tell you no i at least not in communities of color. they don't have a lot of trust in law enforcement and that even extends to doze of us in black lung force. while yes we are typically imbedded in our communities did the vast majority of the members of our it is asian are working in muni's where they live and grew up in . so that they they know the people there the people know their home and they know that they can be trusted to do treat them with respect and dignity. that doesn't always happen let me ask you before we run out of time you know you

have seen almost a half century of law enforcement in the us i mean you've seen so much change. you started the a police officer i think about the same time i was born so i'm wondering is policing in the us now about to say yes 72 here is policing in the u.s. today where you imagined it would be when you became a police officer back in 1971 is changed. you have to look at the way we reach officers are now trained you have to look at the way. they are hired you have to look at the way they are managed hollis's and procedures are a much different now. concepts are much different now and even the patterns of the various chiefs deputy changed in

supervisory personnel a much different than they were in need early 7. all right we're going to have the reparative there were run out of time retired police lieutenant charles wilson chairman of the national association of black low in foresman officers said that it was good talking with you we appreciate your time tonight and we appreciate your wealth of insights and experience thank you thank you be inviting me. these simmering anger and frustration over police brutality and racism it's not an american invention the protests in the u.s. have triggered protests and solidarity across the globe in london thousands of protesters gathered today to honor the life of george floored. matter organize the rally to draw attention to what they say is this is stemming discrimination which harms people of color in the u k. speaker's corner in london's hyde park

a meeting point for demonstrates has over the years. i thought that this time they gathered to draw attention to injustices against black people sparked by the death of george floyd in the u.s. . among the protesters star was actor john boy a prominent voice against racism. who those present were also eager to stress that these problems were not limited to america. the u.k. and the signal he dismissed that's been many got no stop because of a much broader. problem he gave us a possible war but as. i said i would if i thought i had any. interest of race i think i just broke all to see because looks are free for most everyone

and their willingness to change the current situation called for all yet to see this is going to be pulled and into the system of what it was all about. then the crowd marched through the city stopping at the prime minister's office and residence on downing street. was i i did not receive an audience from boris johnson although he addressed the matter and parliament. i think what happened in in the united states was appalling it was inexcusable we all saw it on our screens and i perfectly understand people's right to protest what took place they will basically i will say believe the protests should take place in a a lawful and reasonable way. currently the largest gatherings allowed in the u.k. a limited to 6 people because of the coronavirus threat which has been devastating

for the country that rule was not enforced at this rally although the event comes at a time when britain is easing lockdown restrictions. well the u.k. is not the only european country coming to terms with racism here in germany protesters have also been album the streets moved to action by the death of george floyd racism in germany it is real and in a moment we'll talk to a veteran german anti-racism campaigner about her experiences but 1st take a listen to what is being said about racism in the country at the highest level today german chancellor angela merkel's spokesman was asked is there systemic racism in germany. this racism certainly isn't an american problem it's a problem in many societies and i'm sure there's racism in germany too skipped. zisha to show that people are disadvantaged if they are for example

a black german or a german whose name doesn't sound manifest sight mist of them is simply skin. we all know that because thankfully they say so. so every society including our us is called upon to counter that again and again and to work toward a better society in which people are no longer judged by their skin color. by the origin or whatever features they have. and that was stephens obvious they're the spokesperson for the german chancellor angela merkel let's bring in now aneta kahaani she's chairperson and co-founder of the i'm a day you and tony a foundation here in berlin that's a grassroots group named after a mozambican man who was murdered in a recent attack in germany 30 years ago it works at a grassroots level to combat racism and that it's good to have you on the program

you are an activist it's good to see you you're an activist you're not a government spokes person so i'm going to ask you the same question that was that was posed today to stephanie i mean is there systemic racism in germany. yes well as there is we have a huge problem with right wing extremism and right wing extremism we have a lot of neo nazis in germany and we have a big problem with institutional racism in all forms of the society in education and housing in in jobs in the health system and of course with the police as well so. i think the government should know that because they have very aware of the problem of right wing extremism now right now you know and they do you say that that it exists and yet it took an event in the united states

to move people here in germany to go on the streets and to protest what do you think is motivating people here are they truly anti-racist or do you think there's a bit of anti-americanism mixed in with this. no i think the people on the streets really anti-racists there are a lot of black people on the streets in germany now and but also their friends our we all are on the streets right now but you are right there's some little moment of anti-americanism when people officials in the administration when they are talking about racism and thinking that this is only a problem of the united states you know there is something like nexus between the united states and racism and they always deny that we have a problem with racism here as well they used the word racism out to magically in

communication with the united states and i think there is a little element of anti-americanism because these people probably also can be racist as well but they're not on the streets i think the people whiners on the streets right now they want to show their solidarity they want to show the grief and they want to remember to all the victims of right wing violence that we that we have in germany as well imagine we had more than 200 people killed by neo nazis. in this time since unification so this is a very high number of victims you know back 1998 you set up this foundation and i was wondering why did you feel it was necessary to set up a foundation against racism and you how were you able to to organize. well i'm trying to find people and friends and we had all the

same idea that especially when we started we started in east germany that was just becoming a part of the entire west german system and in east germany they were very very few people of color very few. immigrants are black people and of very high level of racism and so i thought that this can all be only can be stopped by people themselves so we have to encourage people who wanted to build up the civil society of east germany who want to take care wanted to know. bring their protests on the street when there are cases of right wing extremism or racism and so we started to to find people and to give them some money some support and so hyundai ssion grow and now we are quite big organization

dealing with hate speech and anti-semitism and racism and all of this terrible stuff that the society the modern society has and. we're trying to find that money from donors and that's not so easy because this is not really an issue that people like to give money for but me answering our best let me ask you about that and that i mean since 9098 when you when you sort of this foundation. you're comparing then to where we are now in 2020 of me what kind of changes we've got about a minute left what kind of chair you seem positive change. yeah so i you know when when that. last year in the last. 12 months we had a lot of terror attacks and murder cases of people so we had

the ad tag on the synagogue and house and we had an attack and had no way. guy killed 10 people we had a murder case. that was. an official representative of the of a region was killed and so this was a very high this was a big shock for the administration and i have to interrupt unfortunately we're out of time in the but we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us tonight and then to go honey with the mayor antonio foundation thank you and at a. high. well the day is always done the conversation that continues online join us on twitter either at u.w. news you can follow me at brant go off t.v. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody.

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