he cried out for his mom foreshadowing his own death pleading for what it's everything that we need to live the air around us and the mothers who bring us into the world which today mr floyd was buried in houston texas next to his mother and the air the air that was denied him by the knee of a police officer it is now electric charged with anger about a racist past hope for a non-racist future and charged with a justifiable suspension that the president will simply repeat itself again and again and again i'm pretty often berlin this is the day. george ward knocked expendible this is why we're here. would have fallen. badly is named now being mentioned in south africa

canada ropey further south korea europe because they changed the tone of this country not only the amount of space the change the world george florey things the world. and their voice and even if we shall begin the work but it's not just knocking. also coming up tonight his anger and his hope have come to life many times on the big screen the activists in film director spike lee tells d.w. news why his hope is now attached to one day in november where you see hope for the future hope i see it of millions of americans take it is streets saying enough is enough i see hope and. it was hopeful on november 4th. that's at the at the president elect.

and to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day as one man is laid to rest leaving behind a world that is in unrest today george floyd was buried in his hometown of houston texas it has been 16 days since this african-american man was pinned down to the ground by a police officer and killed his death captured on video and seen around the globe ignited protests against racism and police brutality at 1st in the u.s. and now here in europe those protests continue uninterrupted and unabated today george floyd's coffin was lowered into the ground to rest forever beside the place where his mother was buried and just before his life ended mr floyd was heard calling out for his deceased mother a call for his mom

a call that every man and woman has made a call immediately understood by every human being it was that call for humanity that was touched upon today at the funeral of george florey. map that we thank you fellow race we thank you for that live joy it's got that at a moment when he caught up very. badly it let me let dr. let. them run. with that. man i'm fine this is where i'll become the right. thing. well the reach of george void will undoubtedly be far in water consider the black lives matter protests in the

united states that have resonated around the world the protests they have people talking and thinking here in germany it has triggered many to reexamine their own attitudes towards racism later this month for the 1st time in germany a nationwide survey will ask black people about the discrimination they face in their every day well. that's what i would backstrom is one of about a 1000000 black people in germany but nobody knows that for sure as there are no official figures is she grew up in leipzig is the daughter of sudanese exchange students after the fall of the old life in east germany in the ninety's was difficult for people many of them felt left alone. when a right to in most circles around us affair and there's a policeman standing around who just lets it happen as 15 people shout the and what . memories like this often make you doubt whether you really welcome in this

country. my philosophy. that's why the organizations each one teach one and citizens of europe are conducting a survey the affray census the 1st one on black people's lives in germany daniel jama hopes it will fill the gaps. fortunately there has been far too little research in recent decades on the situation of black people and on black racism in germany that's what explains why politicians keep asking as well what's the problem . they find it difficult to talk about black people and that's why we've decided to take matters into our own hands and walk in his endurance hopeful she some from some what is a teacher and then she's upset at the lack of sensitivity even amongst. well meaning white people. in my class in my prepared. kids were super super motivated they were doing well and then they got stage fright the principal

of the school turn around to the whole assembly and state i just love black music. and their large group interesting but the real problem in the real question is like how can we say no more members. recording and no one talking about it the average census wants to facilitate precisely this discussion and to better capture every day racism in german society but it also has another effect to see and poems ultimately it's also very empowering for those who are black and i think that's great. there's never been a survey like the afro census before germany is reluctant to collect statistics on citizens according to ethnic criteria. there's always a reluctance to ask communities about their situation about whether they are discriminated against people are afraid that this kind of research will create

these communities that we are here we are part of the society we won't be denied the right to exist and we can all speak about black people african people calmly without being afraid of it and. it's hoped it could be a step towards change for. change so my 1st guest tonight says she looks at the entire world with a mixture of optimism and pessimism when it comes to ending racism i'm happy to welcome to 92 me to the show miss it you me is a professor of law at u.c.l.a. she is the united nations special rocket chair on racism racial discrimination seen a phobia and related intolerance and she joins me tonight from los angeles tonight it's good to have you on the program you know we've seen a lot in the last 2 weeks when when you consider the protests that we've seen in the u.s. and here in europe you also have to include the scenes of peaceful protesters who were cleared out by armed police near the white house last week i mean there have

been scenes of looting and violence as well where does all of this leave you as you look towards the future for our plan to. thanks so much for having me brant and i think it's very important that you're covering this really important topic i think the thing that stands out the most to me right now is that we're at an important turning point nationally in the united states but even globally in terms of how we talk about and even understand systemic racism as a general matter and then specifically in encounters with law enforcement so what you're seeing is a shift in the debate away from thinking that the issue is a few bad apples to really examining policing structure you know immunity against police expanded by jets that mean that police in the u.s. are involved in providing mental health and social services and the debate that we're seeing playing out and what the protesters are pushing for is

a reform of the entire system and it's been a very long journey to get here even just having worked on issues in los angeles you see a very real shift in the local and in the national conversation around how we understand systemic racism and how we understand police brutality in that context and i think this applies outside of the u.s. as well so some of your earlier coverage mentioned the protests that we're seeing in europe and other parts of the world and i would say that these protests also are about solidarity on the one hand but marking shifts and how race is understood and talked about and how racial discrimination is understood and talked about in the different parts of the world and in germany in the u.k. and he knelt and just to name a few examples so on my end i think the most powerful thing to focus on right now and the most hopeful thing is a very genuine shift in how we understand the nature of the problem and you know

this is happening at the same time that the entire world finds itself in the corona virus pandemic and just this past weekend the number of new infections i'm hit a record high talk to me about how the pandemic and the fight against racism how are they linked. you know they're very closely intertwined and i think doesn't a number of points of intersection i think one is that the pandemic has amplified just how bad preexisting structures of racial discrimination and inequality had become in many parts of the world including the united states which is one of the wealthiest nations in the world and studies are showing us that black people in the united states racial ethnic minorities in different parts of the world are hardest hit by this pandemic so they're facing the threat if that is it is but then they are also facing the existential threat of racism which means that they are move on

to dying from the disease so i think they are very closely intertwined you see how racism is an existential threat it can affect whether you live or die you see that in the context of the pandemic and then in the u.s. you also see it in the context of you know police brutality that doesn't poor as just because you have a pandemic in effect and so i think there is a lot of intertwining happening here in the pandemic opens up the possibility of really engaging with things that people have been complaining about through a really long time you and i were talking about both of these things but i think if you were to look at the the media coverage in the last 2 weeks i think you would agree with me that coverage of the pandemic has really dropped off people are now surprised that we're seeing these high numbers of new infections what responsibility do you think the media have to ensure that these 2 stories of the century are being reported. i think the media has massive

responsibility that the media really shapes how we understand so much in this world including racism and racial discrimination and i think part of the reason why the trans national solidarity has been as powerful as because need has been because media coverage has really shown attention on what's happening in the u.s. and in other parts of the law and i think the challenge here is to ensure that the media wields that responsibility to wield the power that it has in ways that continue to reinforce the call for equality and that i think requires maintaining attention on issues to do with racism whether it's in the context of the pandemic or and in the context of policing and to ensure that that coverage is is responsible and that it that it really reflects the circumstances of the people who are most marginalized one thing that i've been wondering is whether the issue of racial injustice in general is going to fall off the front page newspapers in the next 2 weeks in the way that the news cycles change and i think that would be

a real disservice to the movements if the media didn't remain engaged on an issue that's going to take a really long time to solve yeah it's a very good point and it's a justifiable worry as well racism and xenophobia they have a lot to do with that and with legislation that deals with migration immigrants and refugees it's been a big story here and in europe about if you take a listen to what italy's foreign minister said this week about the pandemic migration and asylum laws in europe take a listen if their mother limits your theme of immigration is another one where we are working side by side with greece its management is of fundamental importance for us and italy shares with grace an extremely delicate geographical position given that it is a border from the e.u. to the outside force coming from africa supervision if you tell africa limit. it's any pandemic and public health crisis in europe has had

a strong impact on the reform of the european asylum system delaying the commission's publication of the new patent office and slowing down the negotiation process migration flows continue to represent a challenge for 1st entry member states. you know you hear there the pandemic has had an impact there has been no reform to speak of i know that you have proposed that we re conceive international migration you write about a quote here the root of international law as dysfunctional relationship with international mobility is this whole steadfast protection of the right of a state to exclude non-citizens so you're talking about changing international law and migration and you say should be changed or did you address the colonialism or to address what colonialism calls talk to me about that what would that look like. so i think the most important thing is fundamentally shifting the way that we

understand borders and the work that would as do and i think the clip that you played is a useful place to start to do that and so in that clip it sounds as though the one of the outcomes is framing african migration to europe as per se a threat which i think is a dangerous and false way of understanding the borders that exists between europe and the african continent and i think you see that in the context of the cove in 1000 pandemic where in actual fact europe was an epi center long before africa was in a way that makes it i think disingenuous to speak about the pandemic and then migration from africa as though there is a kind of need a line of thread between those things for too long i think racist and xenophobic or ethno nationalist ways of understanding what borders can be have been allowed to really dictate how we understand the governance and again in the pandemic context we've seen that that's been costly so racial profiling where people who look like

they might be coming from china being stopped at borders in ways that people who are coming from europe aren't being stopped at you know borders has resulted in all kinds of public health concerns and so if you go back to the question that you're asking me i think we need a historic sized and a justice oriented perspective when we think about how borders work and we should be understanding how borders can be faithful to the interconnection that exists between europe and africa so we've seen in the last few weeks european governments concerned about migrant labor in order to serve the agricultural industry which is absolutely vital to europe and some of that labor is coming from the african continent and so rather than insisting that migration is fundamentally a threat i think local leaders and national leaders should really be more honest about how much reliance there is across borders how much and just as in the past. it has taken place across for ages and how. the goal should be ensure that it's

funded and discrimination don't have to arise the way we make decisions about how people move ok unfortunately we're out of time fascinating talking with die and sumi professor of law at u.c.l.a. and the un special on racism racial discrimination xenophobia and related in tolerance i hope you come back and talk with us again thank you. for the shocking images of george ford's death came as no surprise to film director spike lee his movies including black klansman malcolm x. and do the right thing focus on police brutality and the plight of african-americans in the u.s. his latest work is a short film drawing a connection between george ford's death and what he sees as institutionalized violence and racism among american police forces but spike lee remains hopeful the oscar winning director tells my colleague scott ross for why he thinks real change

is now within reach like never before spike lee's response to the death of george floyd was to make this film editing footage of floyd's killing with the chokehold death of our karner and 2014 and with scenes from his own 1989 film do the right thing to write it was based upon the real live show murder. might was and that anything about. the simple and brutal message is this is happened before if nothing changes this will happen again. but lee does see a difference this time in the broad group of americans whose response to george floyd's death was to take to the streets just black and brown. white americans or white sister or brother take in the streets and join is insane this has to stop. and there's

a national crowd or these police departments across america got to do some with them you know they got out they got to be reform change asked and how polices done in the ninety's states of america black t.-i for decades spike lee has been making movies about us racism and the forgotten history of african-americans amid the shooter action of his new film the 5 bloods about black vietnam that's least slips in social and political commentary. about the current resident of the white house leaders of mince words his nickname for president donald trump says it all agent orange is going to go down as the worst president in history of the united states in america . and it's funny now this see his allies

these generals and politicians are slowly starting to move away from him because they can read right into a wall and they don't want to go down in history attached to this guy being on the beat on a written down history is on the wrong side of history with a capital w. for the 1st time in decades one of america's loudest critics sees hope for real change hope i see it a 1000000 americans taking to the streets saying enough is enough i see hope in oh you feel more hopeful on november 4th that's the day after president elect. we will see where you'll find my next guest tonight on stage or on line being what she calls a professional troublemaker who calls out the people who refuse to do better she

has put her words and thoughts to paper and is the author of the new york times bestseller i'm judging you the do better manual book of essays is a guide to modern manners and he attempts to inject some act right into our culture social media and other parts of life she is also followed by hundreds of thousands on her humor blog awesomely loving and loving and jai jones the self-proclaimed shady nigerian joins me tonight on the day it's good to have you here it's good to see someone smiling on the show for it shea about 2 years ago if you haven't always good to it's good to have you here about 2 years ago i think you said in order for change to take place a domino needs to fall in the rest of us have to fall like dominos to was george for you to a domino absolutely i think george floyd was an inadvertent domino let's talk

about being a domino it means one person taking one action that reverberated through the world and makes other people who i don't think george wanted to be the domino that he was in being murdered on video by a police officer he's an inadvertent domino and because of the fact that he ended up losing his life in such an unjust way the rest of us have been addicted to call to action to make sure that there are no law there george floyd no other i got a stanley jones no other wikia boy trayvon martin's people who lose their lives ought to be white supremacists find them it to me datings thank you for this. love you say you're the person who says what others think but dare not speak so tell me what are black and white americans what are they thinking right now. you know i can't speak for everybody but just judging from the news from my friends my family how everybody feeling like americans are frustrated deeply frustrated he

said your centuries of denigration of prejudice of racism for sure that's not a new feeling george floyd is what the catalyst for this sparkplug white americans i'm not sure how they're feeling but i hope what they're feeling right now is the complete like being compelled to be a part of the solution it's not enough to not be the person who is doing the harm you have to be the person who's actively working against the system that caused something like the murder of george floyd so right now i think we are all being called to figure out what our role is in making this world better than we found it and i think anybody of privilege whatever that is whatever your privilege is whatever power you have you have to step up and spend that privilege in the words of rebecca custody which i heard from that kind of ham and i think right now everybody's been all it to figure out what can you do in whatever space sure in

whatever power that you have to make the world better and hopefully prevent some tragedies because of the work you're doing oh i want to ask you about the n.f.l. player drew brees he posted a black square on his instagram page to show solidarity with black people and i mean he's had and the transformation in a pity but in response to that someone posted an old photo of breeze with donald and melania trump and it just had the caption this year with a question mark you know this mean this new stance for a lot what do you say about that. here's the thing i don't want people to think they've done the work of anti racism because it was a black square and instagram i think it's time for people to actually start doing something of note to fight it and maybe the comment that he got about his old. pictures is because people don't see what drew brees is doing that's actually

fighting against the race of society that he lives in that he profits from so it's up to drew to figure out what he can be doing every single day to do anti racist words and for me right now we're actually mill the campaign we just launched the mike now what we're asking people to give up their instagram accounts what powerful people who are white women have every tomorrow 50 of them have agreed to give up their race come account of a tall black woman stories unfortunately and fortunately we were out of time but but please come back again because we want to talk with you again and specially when we have more time lovey joy joan take it like very much thank you. well the day is almost done the conversation continues online you can find us on twitter and you knew you should follow me for golf t.v. will see the market but.

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