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to shape the self-styled islamic state has been defeated militarily but its propaganda videos are still circulating on the internet. many featured child soldiers undergoing training. numberings coerced into killing and dying for the caliphate. in 2015 schoolchildren in the french city of toulouse spotted a classmate in an eye as propaganda video. today should it was or not on march 12th i received a call from the school psychologist. she said we had kids here crying. i quickly realized the children were in shock because of the video they'd watched. fit of

walk. interview. easy they said yeah that's right john in the video. for what years ago most of all never they'd recognize their classmate and his stepfather unmistakeably. it don't call for why and then you see the child taking aim and killing a prisoner yeah and he murders a hostage as you know that. at the time ron was 12 years old the chair for french schoolboy had turned into a cold blooded killer. and it don't get dismissed you don't get drunk for that we could barely believe it but it was true. we were now facing a totally new situation as the children had an endless number of questions. for

us about who said we couldn't deal with something like this on our own so we called in a team of doctors and psychologists she to get. this info to look on the subject of his former friends and classmates all had the same basic question as us adults how could he possibly do such a thing. in their minds he was a nice boy friendly and kind of. they often had fun together laughing and playing football. some of them asked if he can murder a human being is he intrinsically evil. is he a monster the has to do the name for several initial esther he does and. a host. brown was taken out of school in april 2014 and brought to syria by his parents his

stepfather was a friend of the islamist militant mohammed merah he was shot dead by french police after he murdered 7 people including children at a jewish school. french authorities lost all trace of the propaganda video is the last time he was seen alive. videos of this kind designed by islamic state to search in the west by raising the specter of a new generation of merciless forces. recruited and trained by the jihadist group these children say western intelligence agencies pose a serious danger. even after the caliphates to feature in the field tens of thousands of us fighters remain in iraq internment camps. they include some 5000 children and teenagers among them several 100 who came from europe. most were recruited to the islamic state by their own parents.

parts of northern iraq semi autonomous kurdish region were among the longest held i.a.s. territories this is all that remains of cinder. the city was once the center of the years e.d.'s an ethnic minority targeted by ass and a campaign of ethnic cleansing. kurdish troops recaptured send in the autumn of 2015 today it lies in ruins its outskirts littered with dozens of mass graves. in center alone i asked murdered some 10000 years eighty's thousands of women and girls were abducted raped and slaved. i also kidnapped young boys to enlist them as child soldiers.

is from central she managed to flee when i as fighters captured the city in the summer of 2014 but 71 members of her extended family were trapped by troops of the so-called calif it i'm not able to escape most were never heard from again. a diva travels tirelessly from one refugee camp to another to help where she can and in the hope of finding lost relatives. was very different and if into. the front all the family were together. but now it's so difficult because this road here a bit further on. people lost each other. and now our phone line far from my

family my parents my siblings each one of us in a different country. while it. well. how are you i missed you so much are you all well. let's go inside. a lot about. how the 1000. after years of separation idea has managed to track down some of her relatives they were able to escape i was troops after the intervention of kurdish under iraqi forces. how are you are you in good health thank goodness thank god that theater and that

2. funny. are you well. that one of the divas causeless was recruited by ass and trained as a child soldier. will you sit down with me. follow was 13 when he and others he children were abducted and transported to iraq or the erstwhile capital of the i asked counterfeit. father received the type of minute tree drilling displayed in his propaganda video . that asked

have you seen these videos that i had sense to youngsters out of him actually yes they filmed one of them in our camp it shows boys marching in uniform. they're all wearing hats about 70 or 80 kids in total you. can't do it even. one of the people you know. but you know when i was a little boy. that is me there. seen it before. not until that point that's right in front of me. this boy here is a u.c.d. so is this one but him his sister and mother are also with i.a.s. this one's easy to he's dead. as to this.

throughout the duration of his captivity father lived in fear of beatings brutal drills and violence after 5 months in the training camp the children were sent by i asked to the front lines to rocka aleppo. traumatized the teenager is plagued by nightmares and finds it hard to talk about what he went through. all of them little says i feel like my life was ruined by all the violence and hardship. can you get that we were torn from one world and placed in another the 1st world was good but the 2nd is very hard so that. our life is not good time passes and it's like we're paralyzed and either you have to go to jail or to war and leave your mother you have no choice it's no life.

the woman's honor but i've seen a lot of brutality a lot of bad things it doesn't even scare me if i as fighters behead someone right in front of me. were used to it because we have seen such dreadful things it's not hard to kill a human being you shoot and he's dead a little. fella escaped his eye as captives in december 2016 but his freedom was short lived he was taken into custody by iraqi authorities he feared he could conduct terrorist attacks for i asked. to talk formosa's all 4 who turned children into killing. sheens by subjecting them to traumatic experiences that destroyed their moral boundaries. in sierra leone children were forced to rape their mothers or cut off other children's arms. you know their words to do the unthinkable you must get the bubbles you do when the unthinkable is made

possible so it triggers an enormous inner rage that is easy to bring to the fore. of course you all could sort of star yes you are. in flux and once children are psychologically confused it's easy for malevolent adults to groom them into soldiers of oughta be. leading the city if we call them monsters to protect ourselves unfortunately it has to be said that their children like our own. except that they're forced to abandon their moral boundaries as i see it would kill to schools. child soldiers stripped about enormous sums of monetary are not a new phenomenon many extremist groups in the us children for armed combat but i ask this reliance on children to fill its ranks and function as human shields

appears to have reached exceptional levels children are cheaper they cost less food you have to pay them a lesser wage i think is that easier mentally to. engage with and to convince. what was shocking for us was the amount of investment put in children in the past of course recent terrorist organization should never end it such an organized lot of quickly because what they want is this honest interest so. i ask you. mass rape to breed a new culture of fighters terrorizing an entire ethnic group.

was only 14 when like countless u.c.d. women and girls she was abducted and forced into sexual slavery she was raped over and over again ultimately she was forced to marry and i asked fighter. we had to sit on the floor in front of them and the commander said that every soldier should choose a woman so each one of them pointed to one of us and took us away with them. we had to stay with them for 3 days they killed some of us raped us did unspeakable things to us. saying yes but. after about 20 days i realized i was pregnant i tried everything to get rid of the child but nothing worked when the boy was born i wanted nothing to

do with him but they threatened me if i didn't raise the child they take it away and hand me over to another man. i only agreed to take care of the baby so i wouldn't be given to another man. and i was forced to marry her rapist. she tried to commit suicide. after months of slavery she managed to escape leaving her child behind. today as back in school but she is haunted by the past as much as she tries to move on she can't forget her baby. do you think you'll ever see your child again. yes but only when i asked is totally defeated they view the child as their own and they wouldn't give him to me. i know

he is a son of the i.r.s. they've done dreadful things to us but still he is my son and of course i think of him but i have no idea where he is and have you tried to find out. as best i could yes what's his name. i wanted to give him a z.t. name but i wasn't allowed his name is. do you remember what he looks like yes. i can't talk about it anymore it's too hard.

even after the collapse of i asked his self-proclaimed caliphate tens of thousands of women are still raising the children of i asked fighters children conceived to serve the jihad. that's about it historically a lot of aggressive regimes have banked on high birth rates napoleon pursued this strategy so did the nazis before women had to produce a lot of children the same is true of i-s. . but unlike the nazis who were seeking racial purity. yes is pursuing an agenda of ideological and religious purity they'll do good actual thing they were such evil jews i got me and i designed a sunday off going out to fish and chips and this is it doesn't matter to them whether it's a chechen arab or german who's joining the jihad or a smiling blue eyed frenchman from normandy. as long as he it hears to their

religious ideology. in st oh you know madonna is doing a sequel to your kin your thoughts. it was really in the. from the moment they're born these children are raised and indoctrinated with this ideology. it's only known. and they have no choice but to adapt to their social environment. see them push here. it's inevitable every child grows up immersed in the world view of their parents and protectors you know it's on the experience life as.

good as i need them believe that. it's a societal new thing that's easy and awful it's very easy to turn a child into a fanatic because it's forming its 1st memories when synapses are connecting to the brain. and if a child learns to hate it in the name of morality of course. it's surprising how fast these connections are hardwired into the brain of course you don't just learn from books or in school you learn everything from the people you love. not. the self is a child's brain is shaped by those people's words attitudes and series of. what's. the important point here is that violence is systematic everywhere in these children's lives so it's a very very structured program of education. islamic

states extremist ideology isn't shrines in all aspects of daily life. even in baby announcements. props like a kalashnikov or hand grenades hail the new bones jihadist destiny. anti coloring books filled with various types of military equipment turning weapons of war into normal everyday objects for children growing up among i asked for isis . sama and has now left their home in paris in 2014 and were taken by their mother and stepfather and i asked fica to rocka they lived for 2 years on their return to france their mother was arrested. the girls aged 5 and 7

now live with their biological father who fought hard for custody. in his care the children a slowly finding their way back to a normal childhood away from war violence and religious fanaticism but 2 years are a long time for young children. their exposure to eye is indoctrination has impacted the way they think and talk. why did the bad men want to kill you. because they were unbelievers. are very bad evil people they don't pray or read the koran. did you enjoy learning all these things know. the. good the language of totalitarianism always resorts to the same pattern it starts

with the words infidels unbeliever triggering an automatic process that always ends with death. the next level introduces the word blasphemy you ridicule and insult my god there is no greater crime i am indignant and outraged. rage is an emotional process that makes it impossible to think rationally it escalates until killing becomes the morally right thing to do. from an early age i asked children are exposed to rigid briley just doctrine. in kindergarten they would practice beheadings. so it's actually very sophisticated to give a child a teddy bear or a toy and teach him how to behead it because then eventually what that setting the

president forced beheading is ok and it's fun and it's something you do with your friends and you to enjoy it i would venture when you reach a certain age the beheading becomes of a person you are asked to behead people. will see was awful but is he also you how do you think. it what they want to see a pleasure. this is a pen as well i mean all this is all that a very little while in kuala. but school for the cubs of the caliph it ends at the age of 9 and the curriculum is based soley on the principles of the hunt for seeing him as beyond being form. of. simon and just 4 years old when i asked occupy their

village in 2014. like many of the children they were abducted to syria and placed in a village near rocca. oh here is this man and here and i asked i am this is their flag. with that guy. is this your school in syria you know in iraq. what did they teach you that. the qur'an and other stuff. just as if the english 19 he says he once i was in a schoolyard when they chopped a man's head off and they took another man tied his hands up and strung him up.

they shot him from the back and then chopped his head off to. his body fell down as she could have a national healing. jab majnun times they told us if we didn't repeat after them they'd round up everyone close to us so they'd be no one left to take care of a few then we'd have to stay home all alone and they'd come and kill us because i'm a little little. that it is awful 1st the children have to learn who the enemy is. and that the aim is to establish an islamic state that's the core message they firmly believe that they are the good guys their ideology stems directly from god their struggle is divine so all these boys want is to please god and their brothers in arms that we're going to school. it's easier to condition small children if you tell

a 5 or 6 year old that santa claus is armed with a kalashnikov you'll believe you. rather take me with you the others on here yet we have to wait. now as a child becomes older what they're taught in the family that what they're doing is good and justified only becomes awful fired when they go to schools and people they trust such as teachers and nurses and other schoolchildren are all saying the same idea. the 2 boys were freed by kurdish forces in an attack on iran's positions and reunited with their family in iraqi kurdistan. by that time simon and i had forgotten the mother tongue they were highly aggressive pulling insults and unveiled women all men he smoked. showered with their families love and attention the boys needed months before they could begin coping with the horrific experiences and return to school and the life

and freedom. just for the so-called islamic state school is solely a production facility for fanatics many regular teachers went into exile. lena is a teacher threatened by us and syria she fled across the border to the turkish city of gaza on top. leno would have preferred to remain in syria where she secretly instructed her pupils in subjects banned by ass. and i should have i was never afraid something would happen to me until the end we did what we could to oppose these people that found out that i knew they could do dreadful things to me much worse than anything i'd ever heard of any but i made

a very conscious decision to keep on doing what i was doing that have a whole lot. today her syrian peoples are refugees just like herself. under islamic state the children were never allowed to learn the subjects lina teaches. but there's your binary i don't want to do that you don't want me i don't think you know you care. if you're going to have an ok ok. but you know. the i asked curriculum abolished subjects like philosophy and social studies it revised history in geography and reduced math to the simple addition of tanks and hand grenades.

teachers who refused to comply were arrested and executed to serve as a warning. many of lena's colleagues and dead who have gone into exile like a self and her brother gus one who is also a teacher. i was for them it's terrible education was always a ray of hope for us. i taught middle and high school we had about 200 pupils. i fear a portion of those will have joined i guess voluntarily by now either out of ignorance or because they're poor and need money. we had hoped the young generation would build a better country but after i asked his conquests i fear for their future. the fed kids who were weaned on their ideology will find it hard to shake. the children who were little back then are now 15 or 20 and the long term i guess wants to use

them to build sleeper cells. and. many of these here are not the children learn that there is just one truth. they are allowed to decide for themselves what is right because that could give rise to doubt anyone who feels doubt and can make a decision enjoys a degree of freedom these children don't experience that they learn there is just one truth thoroughly. and according to i asked this one single truth can only be found in the qur'an. to prevent doubt from arising in these children i ask cuts off all ties to their previous lives. they are not allowed to have a family or home outside of the training camps. for large camps have been known to exist. and i saw in syria and in mosul and telephone

in iraq. from a young age children are put through rigorous physical training. at the age of 7 they begin their basic training and weapons and military tactics at last several months. to don't but they're being forced to be vigilant at all times which is highly stressful. they're never allowed to relax us both a peaceable position. at the end of the training

there is a graduation party of sorts but amid growing eye is losses all the children have really become it's cheap cannon fodder. to eat. the south proclaimed i asked counterfeits began losing ground in iraq in syria after the battle of mosul in late 2016 i. lete. i asked commanders then increasingly began to send children to the front a truly perfidious tactic. with us on the phone you see a kid with a machine gun just like before you realize what you're saying your dad was this it's a type of terror seeing children in such unimaginable situations of assault. on

the ground i asked was declared defeated in march 2019. but underground it still plots terror attacks some with the help of children this propaganda video shows a boy steering a vehicle to overtake a military convoy before he blows himself up. even small children are used for suicide missions as documented here by iraqi soldiers in mosul. obviously it was a way that. i asked has nothing to lose by using and abusing children if their mission a successful the group achieves its goal. but even if it isn't the images of young suicide bombers attract international attention. so they use young children who have committed suicide bombings or who died in the frontlines of war and they were

these photos of them and make them into little celebrities so like a young child that would worship a football there for example is young kids are worshipping other kids who have killed themselves in war and it's seen as an exciting thing that deserves to be rewarded so that's a very sophisticated idea of martyrdom as well. ali was 10 when he received his eye as training like thousands of other boys he was being groomed as a cover of the comfort. them he was freed by opposition fighters and reunited with his family. he now lives in turkey with his mother and sister. his friend mohamad didn't make it out alive. that they took his friend with them the next day he blew itself up. his body exploded there was nothing left. it was

ripped into small pieces totally shredded. many joined i asked they had no idea that he made to die as martyrs they told me you can meet my hamad in paradise if you become a martyr analysts had. wanted to reply to i said no i'd like to go to paradise but not through a suicide bombing they asked if i wanted to attack a school. national do you know why our us uses young children. it's easier to brainwash them. it's like they have a remote control that's how much power they have the kids go wherever they're sent i saw with my own eyes how they strap explosives on to kids and sent them on a mission or made them drive a vehicle with a car bomb this and that's why i didn't like them it was too much for me i don't

trust them anymore and if they come again for me i won't join them. as the family escaped and his father stepped on a landmine. on the end as younger sister wants to medina. another horrific shock for these deeply traumatized children just 6 days with this. if you can you tell me what you're drawing hundreds and i ask i joking someone's head off and a person has been crucified had chopped off head and attacking planes. in time do you dream about stuff like this. and yes i do we all have nightmares.

the children who have undergone indoctrination and i as training camps include about 1500 from western european countries. almost 300 from germany and more than 500 from france. intelligence and security experts warn of the threat they pose should they return and of cool for precautionary measures should now we have a 2 fold problem we've got former extremists former terrorists and foreign fighters so we have individuals that are going to fight in countries like iraq and syria who are coming back not just as former terrorists but foreign fighters which makes it even more difficult to deal with. how do you deal with

children who have undergone military training and experienced brutal violence. can maybe read integrated into society is that a poem human rights freedom and the rule of law. the courthouse in between a paris houses the files of all the children who have returned to france from previously held i asked territories. about 20 come back each year most of them are not yet 12. on their return french authorities immediately arrest the parents and place the children in state care. as. we don't ask these children what did you do what did you see or hear we don't ask questions we just observe them they have to learn to adjust

naturally they feel somewhat lost they've been separated from their parents suddenly they're alone it's brutal to see your mom and dad handcuffed and taken away by police. we give them time to process it all then we let them tell us their story. our primary focus is finding the best conditions for their reintegration and protecting them suggestion. every child is treated as an individual case and is given a chance even of some politicians or prosecutors cooed former child soldiers a security risk and describe them as ticking time bombs. select just chores maybe some children really are ticking time bombs but if we say

they can't be saved then we are in the wrong line of work that would mean there is no point trying to protect children and juvenile delinquents. am i as a prosecutor supposed to say they cannot be saved in my opinion we need to do everything we possibly can to save them and avert the worst case scenario of europe's you ringback. admit it is that they are we help them cope with their experiences and put them into perspective in their heads everything is upside down may need to sort through their experiences put them in boxes put the banks's in cupboards and the cupboards into the cellar then they can live in the house and they know the bad things are in the server.

no one knows just how many children and teenagers have returned to europe a survivors of i asked manipulation and terror. of origins on both sides of the atlantic to develop strategies to deal with the situation. we're dealing with an adversary that has no end. this will never stop i'll never forget bin laden in an interview saying i working on a 2000 year continuum if i don't do it my son will do it his son will do it his son will do it it will happen i will never see it but it will happen that's the problem with western thinking we think problem resources problem solved that's not how they think that's not how it works we underestimate their longevity underestimate their ability to sustain they may go away for a few years but they're never gone. pete. i asked once the west to fear child soldiers and its new generation of jihadists

and it wants us to forget that these children are above all victims not puppetry of so. many also hail from europe which makes the authorities there legally and morally obligated to take them back they matter how brainwashed if you. should cross the political stuff was such call. yourself was not even 10 when his family took him to syria in the summer of 2014 and turned him over to us as seen in this facebook video. is it just something. or just. limited to a certain way out of policy. there's been no sign of use of since.

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