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so it is really that has to be done it's not a matter of child the families making decisions it's about health or it is protecting them good to talk to you thank you for joining us guy ryder from the international labor organization. today to get. in between of course as always the web site. project. stands for. language courses. video audio. anytime anywhere. w. a center.
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terrorist is preparing an attack there was terrorists don't just aim to kill a lot of people here but also to attract a big audience. the threat to germany has changed in recent years. war is torturous the day terrorism is all about small operations with little logistical effort. in the traditional of course islam is terrorism remains the dangers but there's also the growing threat of right wing terrorism. they intervene when no one else can help you 9 gemini's police unit. i would like people to be less afraid because they know that we're here. right
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now. does not make germany safe we all follow these men on their daily routine you know kind of machine they're not machines they have feelings. so i have written this for my family. no t.v. crew has ever got so close to g s g 9. near bonn the former german capital. losses of carports and freshly trimmed front garden. this is also the headquarters of a special unit of germany's federal police the border protection group g s g
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9. more around the world standards and always i was hired here at the one i've seen the chance chain 9 guys through the fence and wondered what kind of people they were. you see them in movies videos and documentaries. but then you see them at lunch or driving to shooting practice and you think that's cool. meanwhile the commander arrives at the side gate. for me this is how the day usually start and it's a pleasant retain a minimal okok on. it gives you a chance to gather your thoughts and think about what you can expect over the next few hours and then. but lots of people started their work like this. we followed the 3rd squad of g.s.t.
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9 for an entire summer and got to know them well. most of their work is top secret it's the nature of their mission and that's why dearest you 9 insisted on prior approval of all the videos shown in this report. of an iraq war take the case on to . stop filming place in the. except for the commander we cannot reveal the identities of any other g s g 9 members. to. you're getting a real insight into what we do here. the way beyond how we live. but i think that everyone will understand why we can't show our faces from. 8 am roll call for the 3rd squad. point. we can't reveal exactly how many men are in this unit. g s g 9 takes on about
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30 missions a year during downtime they train. today they'll be using practice every nation. of. 3 102234 the tango. plus 30223 f. x. x. and 309 millimeter f.x. almost a 1000 rounds enough to eliminate a large number of terrorists yet months someone to. go. clink has just an alias the men of g.s.t. 90 have nicknames. you know. people get a nickname during training. might be linked to something that's happened to them or to their real name. and they'll keep that nickname the entire time they. did used to 9 members have aliases like granny all neat and well then the squad
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leader is called mopsy. commanders are home folks is also taking part in the exercise he's been the head of g.m. for 5 years he spends most of his time in meetings but today he's right in the thick of things. we have a heavily armed perpetrator in a building that can only be reached from the air. the entrances are barricaded and possibly booby trapped. so we'll have to get in through the roof. for the choppers to make our approach. meanwhile somewhere in berlin. a terrorist is planning an attack.
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he gets his instructions from the member of the so-called islamic state his plan an attack that involves the use of the powerful toxin rice and. the terrorist wants to use a homemade explosive to spread the rice and this is only an exercise but it has similarities with the real case we've seen farland an attack in which russell is you should have a devastating effect. we're not talking about the deaths of several people just pushing binged for it would be much more serious than that which me from guns i don't see in all your movie scenes at langham was an operation with long known from intelligence reports that terrorist groups are trying to carry out attacks with nuclear biological and chemical weapons i'm still can tell and we know from the russian case that it can be
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a fairly simple operation and for offices. anyone can legally order the ingredients with this kind of biological weapon on the internet raisen is extracted from plant seeds in 2018 a terrorist in cologne was preparing a rice an attack but police managed to prevent it. below the middle do you skip many of these substances including nitrogen and other fertilisers are used as part of a completely legal activity. this is so the authorities can't ban them outright our job is to find out whether these materials are going to be. used illegally. germany's interior ministry believes that coordinated simultaneous terrorist attacks such as took place in paris and 2015 or in brussels a year later unlikely right now.
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for a long time we don't with terrorists who try to organize attacks that would kill as many people as possible. those attacks also involved elaborate planning. but then they switched to what we call low threshold operations which are less complex and target a smaller number of people. that was what happened in 2016 in central berlin when a nice unreplied a stolen truck into the christmas market killing 12 people. although the so-called islamic states has been defeated militarily they are almost $300.00 islamists in germany alone and police believe that they could attack at any time let's. move. all that i ask and try to do now is to hurt us in our own countries that
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includes small individual attacks and individual murders to xining germany faces a number of threats not only the danger of islamist terrorism but also an increased risk of right wing attacks was. the magnitude of that danger was brought into focus by the october 2900 synagogue attack and the murder of. a few months. they have problems of right wing extremism and terrorism have been ignored for a long time. doesn't we've learned nothing from the n.s.u. scam. just a minute. in fact i believe that we're seeing just the tip of the iceberg. we don't know yet how great the threat really is. is to destroy 9 squad leader mopsy and his men train every day to deal with these situations.
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in this drill gunmen have dug in at an industrial park and are shooting at innocent civilians it's just a training exercise but the tension is still real the g.s.t. you know and squad doesn't know the terrain they're under extreme time pressure and they know that the assailants will stop at nothing you mean obviously if my men have no idea what they're getting into they face a lot of risks in similar situations. things are tense. in training missions we do things that you can't prepare for. you create conditions that put the squad under simulated pressure. there's a lot of psychological stress. these men can dive dropping by parachute or of hell from a helicopter in seconds while carrying 35 kilos of equipment on their backs. there
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are about 400 men in g s g 9 their job is to deal effectively with terrorists hostage takers or heavily armed criminals. you know we do a lot of training and shooting a few so we can avoid the latter as possible and real martin. g.s.t. 9 reports directly to the interior ministry and can be deployed at home and abroad its mission is to secure as much evidence as possible while keeping collateral damage to a minimum or most fish card you can easily learn the skills necessary for this job you've got to have a high level of social competence the psychological strength to deal with. us wished this person above all the ability to work very well in a team in team a down the not so are by. we don't want to be rambo. we have to be cautions we can't just rush in and blow everything up as from this is that no one's
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going to open fire unless they're in an immediate threat situation as a scorched operations. since it was founded in the early 1970 s. g.s.t. 9 has carried out almost 2000 missions they claim to have fired their weapons just 8 times. just to 9 functions like a well coached sports team they work out of rough strategy in advance but can adapt to situations they encounter in the field. to maximize the sense of trust in the squad they run drills like this one. it also helps them to subdue the human instinctively when facing deponents you have to be aware of what's out there especially when you're being shot at. but if we weren't afraid we'd be the wrong people for the job. but in the end of course we feel fear but we train a lot to counteract the training exercises help us to control that fear when things
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start happening can we go through or not if i think you communicated well we covered you it worked fine for us but how was it for you before going to know. mopsy is 421 of the oldest members in the unit he joined what was then the federal border police 24 years ago and then pass the entrance exam for t s g night. he's been on 50 missions including operations in mali iraq so for a number. of months i'm for and i probably could have been a firefighter or another medic inflicting withouten or mentioned so if i just enjoy helping people remind us often i can do that with these units at a very high level and that's very satisfying or. it was a nice job really means a lot to me as a baby daughter does her feel. here a terrorist is scouting locations he wants to kill as many people as possible and
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he wants to attract attention to. those who says i'm a good while terrorism is an act of violence abortion its main aim is to use symbolic highly visible dramatic acts of violence to spread fear among the public well 1st off it's all done for effect it's a communicational strategy that sends a message to a target audience and supercool it on what it's designed to affect people use a public space for public transport go to work so. the terrorist wants to launch his rice attack in berlin because of the city symbolic importance as germany's capital of. the north who are in parliament and cities like berlin that are hometown. parliament and many other institutions of places with lots going on are attractive vault of 20 seconds
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institutes who want to hear but exactly that makes them a prime target for terrorists offer tourist not hochtief i know i'm tellin hasn't had a counterterrorism unit up to now and that's something we're having to change. in the car it was of g.s.t. and 9 squads 3 no one suspects that an attack is imminent so you've been practicing in secret all this time. a little. every member of g.s.t. 9 has its own bunk in the sun barracks although most live with their families nearby only a few actually sleep here. it smells of homemade curry the men spend more time in the barracks than anywhere else. how many banks are. in the ocean from probably 5. to morrow zorro's going to the
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u.k. for 3 weeks training exercise. is part of. the and also i'm packing for an assignment in britain's got talent. i'm going to take an easy m e course with the british army you more equal time in. hospitals what is that me. as he stands for explosive methods of entry. which if the course deals with all the different ways that you could open up a target location and get into it you shove it into the wrong. like almost everyone in the squad and zorro are married and have children and their wife will look after the kids. yeah as usual. they're good people
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talk a lot about work life balance but all we do is work it's tough to find a balance. to move on. and these men usually share the most intense moments of their lives with their colleagues not with their families sometimes wives and children feel left out. you can't talk to them about a lot of the work you do here. sometimes they wouldn't understand anyway. it's an entirely different world. i'd rather talk about it with a colleague they're sort of like a 2nd family because of course this can cause problems because your real family says that you're shutting them out of. the way. that you do yesterday 9 men this great example can't really stay at home to look after a sick child and the men enjoy their work so much that the commander sometimes has
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to order them to stop this. i tell them to careful not to mess up their family life . and if your wife's having a baby stay home with a. plug in extreme cases i've had men call up and ask whether they should come into . my job as a supervisor is easy i don't have to motivate my team the hard part is to slow them down and sometimes to protect them from themselves. i mean. this is monday. morning. she worked as a key. cheers to 9 for 13 years and retired a couple of years ago. but she still stops by often to visit once a team member always a team member. i change question is some of these guys are young enough to be our
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son or do happen the way i see it anyway are busy and yes i might have to tell them move those trying racks out of the courtyard we have to clean the floors now that's the time when the you also develop a certain level of trust. the guys would leave their stuff lying around. and if you've been working on the same floor for years like me. or you others. there's a guy start to trust you. there are no women engineers to 9 operational units just a few workers desk clocks others are employed as cleaners. let's put it like this another woman showed up on my floor and i said is that really necessary in your life i'm the only woman on the floor that was
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that's what it would be strange corners i guess we won't allow it. the visionary i would like it i'm the mother to these boys and that's all there is to it other women just don't belong here you know she's my answer as you might be dusty but that doesn't mean women couldn't do the job. why not if they're sure to be one or 2 out there. do you know the mission of course they'd have to meet the criteria excellent. i think that they might struggle with some of the physical demands. on top men do women really want to live among men or suffer. partly because of all the locker room talk which i what. i personally wouldn't have a problem with having women as colleagues they haven't even tried to join since i've been here. so i have
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a wife says the so i don't mind being around the guys or one day. but what if the come a rather a among the team members turns into an exaggerated. there have been some alarming incidents in special units of both the german armed forces and the police. but i know also i don't think that the presence of a team spirit or an elite attitude is the main problem at least not in the units that i know. the units that we supervise. divya but these men have to trust each other and that often means that they try to sort things out among themselves who does money sometimes that can go too far and we respond too late and as much right as we have to prevent that forward. for example the german armed forces elite units special forces command or k s k failed to report several incidents of right wing
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extremism in its ranks. but the bundeswehr as elite units are not the only ones that have got into trouble. a raid on members of a right wing group in the northeastern german states of mecklenburg for a man in 2017 they feel that officers from an elite police unit had allegedly hoarded weapons and boxes of ammunition. the german government is also concerned about possible right wing extremist tendencies in special ops units . this is not to lucian bizarre nor was of do before you go on of course allegations of such tendencies and the very government institutions that are supposed to protect the public are a definite cause for concern and disease should since. if i were to see an extreme case for example someone wearing a swastika on his uniform something so clear i'd be very worried no question but
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we're just a cross-section of society i assume that there are some supporters in g s g 9 as me but i can't confirm that. bush really kind it's still i see no serious trends in that direction and we've all sworn an oath to protect germany's liberal democratic system and we do that. meanwhile the terrorist has ordered the materials for his biological quite legally on the internet. where someone who. can't intervene because the actions at that stage i'm not in themselves against the law on the site not to english this case is fairly recent and it shows that today such attacks are to be expected.
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it is often difficult for investigators to track down such perpetrators. if they do speak is of the essence. this situation has completely changed the way that carries out its counterterrorism operations. we're now aware of the possibility of a number of different terrorist attacks and areas. but our claw for example the butter clan attack in paris and somebody 15 or response time was a decisive factor there. it could take too long for us to fly or drive from santa augustine in response to an incident in northern germany. far in order to flee. that's why g s g 9 is
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establishing a new base in berlin and is expanding the number of personnel about one 3rd. reich now commander fox is on her flight. after another brandenburg gate. we found. optimal landing site. or several others. are. seeing big cities have become targets but there have been attacks in berlin paris oslo russel's that's why we need g s g 9 here. in berlin not our aim was to expand our presence and berlin just started not at the expense of our base inside august. we can only do that by bringing in new people.
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otherwise i'd have to transfer personnel from our headquarters to provide for. the decision has been made to move past of the g.s.t. 92000000000 but it's taking time one reason is that it's hard to find sites where the rigorous training program can be carried out so for the time being the men are being temporarily housed in the city and spend only a few weeks here. and i assume we'll have our personnel permanently stationed in berlin by the end of 20 or 20 and. also be reinforced by an exchange with people from salt augustine and what he's doing that. story. here commander fixes at the bundestag to meet the german parliament's police command they're going to have a look at the facility security layout. of his blue suit google this is the largest
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buddhist talk office building 800 offices. fox is particularly interested in the service entrance in the buildings. in this process we review the situation building by building although we can't analyze every possible detail. and the situation changes all the time. the main points for us are the location of the buildings was in deployment options for our units and the buildings and access points and we leave the rest to the specialists who work there every day it's a little to talk to this stuff but. it's good i love to have a look over there it's a mom or. most parliament house or this is the heart of parliament you can see the ministers down there because it's there they are. and.
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this is a joint training exercise intel of the. oh. by the g.s.t. 9 works with a number of foreign special ops units particularly israel's counterterrorist team called to. get the clue to organizations regularly exchange intelligence data and train together. for you so in the fields there are also this kind you will also only. organize. a 3rd in new york so we are more than happy to share of our world experience in this field with. colleagues with. brothers in arms.
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right now the german israeli team is preparing to confront a group of terrorists who have taken over a kibbutz all just part of a normal days where. before you trade. you know people would you know would not give you a lot about a little bit more a lot and it's oh yeah well sceptically places. yes you know it's we do it once a month. if you. look at. the work of the with the with the police all that talk at all but even there. it's normal for us almost all the dreams we do in a civilian place is there people the civilians are recruited for their cause ok for the cause of this one because to find it in the end to keep them safe. young man's mission is to do whatever it takes to stop terrorists.
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the israeli unit doesn't always collect as much evidence as g.s.t. 9 does but overall the german and the israeli methods are so similar that they can work together easily. no one here seems to have a problem with germans in combat gear running around any israeli housing estates in which the moneyed elite this i've never heard anyone say what are they doing here going on for that as it is and it makes no difference whether i'm training in germany israel or somewhere else. that's not is a very interesting model i don't think anyone here is wired to john adams walking around with guns but it is in all of today's a different era just it's normal for me to practice with you just you know a. little. bit and after work the germans and israelis relax and get to know each other better after hours in the garden we have
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to keep that clean that is and i'm talking about sayed it's my of my hobbies and my family but that's i spend most of the time when i'm at home with my family. we all have family. will know it's a dangerous job and we know why we do it. where they're fighting terror we're fighting fair it's probably the same. it's the same goals eventually maybe we do it that way and they do it this way but the the same ball. bobbing manley's the retired you know mom returns 0000 you well see saw in my eyes it was. not my sweetheart. you know i would. yes have
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a seat. and. want to talk and that is that malise worked here she and moxie saw each other more often than they did this spouses. but. then yes i have known him for 13 years. and i say. he watched me grow up here. and that is such a vicious fall i can say is that he's like a son to me a condom as old as i and this is also i love him that much. if i was having a tough time i'd ask her opinion and it was important to me that sometimes she'd set me straight she'd say young man life is not always fair when it comes to relationships you sometimes just have to deal with it but never even get.
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clean is also worry about the squad member they never know exactly when their missions are going to be for real. only for men have been killed in action into history nines history one of them was real named to b.s. that. he was shot by snipers in iraq in 2004 and he was in mopsy squad as i felt it was incredibly difficult for me to deal with because it's again he just wasn't there anymore he wasn't coming back and. he was just terrible. to have one of you worry about all the guys in the unit would sign kind to you know as a video for the media if i see on the news that g s g 9 is on a mission i keep a close eye on it that's just the way i am i've been going down that monday maybe and you find yourself thinking that you might wonder could. i hope they all come
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back safe and. fast i wrote a letter and addressed it to my family and colleagues. of come of autumn. and in that letter right mind what should happen if i were killed in the line of duty. i just wanted to put my affairs in order. then that good a good example i wanted to specify who would tell my wife what had happened to me out of one. is really an issue. i don't want to die you know vince and so that's something that i have to be prepared for. and i just put it all down on paper like a shopping list of the say. because i was trying to look at the situation without any emotion in the calls this an it was miles of open i sealed the envelope and wrote on it who should be allowed to open the letter obviously when often enough.
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when. you're a good listener. it's a terrorist bomb it's ready to go it's now a race against time. later report to the command post. he was brought on this is where all g s g 9 operations are coordinated to be available intelligence and other information is collected and then distributed to the appropriate officer in this case to me the squad leader. i've been instructed to intercept a suspect believed to be preparing to use hazardous materials to carry out an
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attack i'm sure. the german criminal police has identified the terrorist and the interior ministry has called in to us tonight because this is everyone will be in the tactical vehicle will follow this route and enter the underground car park and. it was realized i have to make sure that we apprehend the suspect in a way that prevents him from destroying any evidence of getting away or palming members of the unit and that's. the reason of my 1st priority is always the mission then protecting the matter of. the terrorist as apparently working with the highly potent talks and so the members of the unit are wearing protective suits. to sit tight and it gets hot and sticky inside.
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there's no point worrying. if you know it and stay alert pay attention to details. rely on your training and things will turn out fine in. the 1st case the mysterious and worst case for me right now would be for the suspect to shoot and wound one of my men and the object non-news contaminated with hazardous materials. i mean the everyone has to be prepared for that possibility if that sign but i'm not going to waste time worrying about it over that and someone who must have a vent. to strike team. strike team here. forgive
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me update i thought it was. you know the teams in the car park now. good. move in let's go let's go or something. roger that i don't. know what. brightest. to. carry. but. what about the order. i forgot i forgot that
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there are a lot of the operation takes less than 30 seconds. and we're inside. i don't casualties. that was amazingly fast yeah that's why i didn't say anything before as a government wants me movin things can go quickly. but that's also when the tensions are greatest you're waiting for your men to tell you that the suspect has been apprehended and the building is clear. local is you're the one who was going on you do not want to hear that something's gone wrong and the next been things are most tense they were medical. taking over now the suspects in custody. and. just take off your handcuffs and. as i said the sanctions size was intended to simulate tactical deployment and arrest procedures you know overpowered so that's
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all for you today. a real terrorist wouldn't be this relaxed. at the very clearly i didn't have a chat and i didn't have to when they showed up it was all over the obvious then so good then we've achieved our goal. and the other training exercise successfully completed the perpetrator has been caught and we will never know the identities of the g.s.t. 9 members who took part in this is because and that's when i hear people talk about g s g 9 without knowing that i mean it's on its of this and that is where you find myself saying to myself that's me that's what i do for a living. i can't deny that. therefore in your office he will be a bit hypocritical to demand anonymity on the one hand and at the same time to go around bragging about my work. my reward is
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a successful mission where we catch the perpetrators is a mission that i took part in and maybe even save to people's lives and some concerts of war and. welfare only. the 2 men who came into contact with the terrorist and his talks and still have to be chemically disinfected the other squad members can take the rest of the day off. g s g 9 may be able to fight terrorism better than any other organization in germany but they'll never be able to eliminate it is it's only 9 cannot in itself make us safe if security services don't get wind of an attack and it takes place and i'm special ops unit can solve the problem and it. has a free democratic and constitutional society. well just have to live with the fact
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that we'll never have 100 percent security. individual terrorist campaigns do come to an end but terrorism has been used throughout history and especially in modern times. we can defeat terrorist groups and individuals but terrorism strategic use of violence will not go away. despite the danger of coronavirus people who shop at weekly markets and zimbabwe may be risking their lot by our alternative. no commitment 1st food and vegetable right here door especially. if you save.
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