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are. in their own destruction is a bit complicated especially for quest folk music does so many talented young musicians. but they're not just so many possibilities tool rather to perform work to watch live concerts and as i have looked at from live musicians and my father is a composer who told me if it's what you want to do with it and you need to leave. what i heard about that gentleman i that really was. such opportunity and i have

always wanted to to do something else you know to study some literature to study always always and when i saw that. you know visit what and and it was no question that i'm not going there. i've been on stage for 64 years now i played my 1st concert in 150. i hope art learned something in all those years and i'd like to pass that on my.

machine it's one step in a vision i have long held. here to have this center where musicians from all over the middle east can learn to communicate with one another through music common you can see your. jesus i mean this academy in slightly different with a program to counter specialize ancient in the 0. he said what used to say a specialist is someone who knows more and more about less and less. and i believe that this problem is not limited to musicians it affects all of society.

thank . the idea started for having an academy where musicians would also study philosophy that was the that was the idea and that was how i heard of it shortly thereafter i met with mr barron boy and immediately it was clear that we share these ideas that it's a terrible shame that classical musicians nowadays specialize so much and don't get to reflect more broadly about what they do and ground themselves in the broader culture so it was clear that we could work together trying to remedy that

and it was clear that that this was going to work. it was very interesting because it was the 1st time seeing a program. more broad than just music and i was always interested in more things but never had really time to expand or. you know to really learn them. and that's it they just they apply and in berlin and i got accepted for their. if.

you murder. for. it has always been daniel barenboim streams or have an academy where students are educated his way. for that he challenges every musician to require a universal education to be one to keep on learning and to see the bigger picture to say. thank. you greg thank you very. heartening and that makes me happy that he's responding that i can i say since i don't play mr reich and. it feels good. i'm surprised

how how much how nice the windows are i was worried about them it feels like a connection to the city which is right because this is not. an out next period concert hall on the floor morning here to say hall or something. every academy needs a home. but this is the only academy with a hole like this one that we were lucky because frank gehry turned out to be a fan of the west east and devalued history with eastern ok when i told him that this idea was becoming reality he said. to me i really want to do this he said and i said mr careless because we weren't friends yet again mr gary you are probably the world's greatest architect we can't afford to lose. he replied how could he say that for you to be able to walk through the west east and give an orchestra and for

this academy he used to be i'm the one who should pay me as much sense if he did everything for free it was an amazing gift this persecution. the 1st model so i did were like a smaller version of a big concert hall and daniel was lying on his back and he was in pain and he said but frank why are you doing that what happened to those other sketches you did and i said well they're not for seen him they're not normal they go here. you don't ask frank gehry. a conventional concert or they no point in doing that because no point in doing that. and they were the overalls. that was kind of intuitive thing i intuitively made him i didn't know why it felt right for the room but it was dismissing them because i didn't have enough experience to know

that the musicians could you know could make it work. johnny or to diagnose at that frank gehry spur strapped to the concert hall was to traditional for his liking so it was a kind of box dolphin finger gary and then gary started drawing that big bang spiral which became the 1st draft of the of lip tickle concert hall of the barenboim saeed academy. so it's hard to believe but it's true. i was all for it and ripped the page straight out of his nose at the guy because i. i.

the 1st year was in just across in the parlance street we were living people students from. the region and it was very exciting because we were like a small family very fast we became really good friends. yeah and then one year after we moved here of course $25.00 more students arrived and it started to feel more like an academy with many people all and busier and around 20 something people so now it's a real functioning academy so it's really nice to see how it feels to

such an institution. to travel to israel palestine lebanon jordan and egypt to recruit to find students to hold auditions to tell them about the academy. and we have about now i think close to 80 percent of our student body is all from the middle east from middle eastern africa which is something i'm very proud of because that is the. bribery. the sort of remit of this institution it's one of our primary objectives. it.

certainly. very hard. to. watch my. mind has been endless and then one banner met by accident at the hotel in london i believe it was 992 history and he came up to me and said you don't know me mr barenboim i'm edward saeed. i replied with never met but i know very well who you are. so he laughed and we talked for

a while and then i said i'm sorry but i have to go i have a rehearsal yes he said can i wait for you certainly i replied i would love to continue our conversation so. that's why i believe that was in june 1902 if i'm not mistaken. we spoke almost every day almost every day until his death. whether he was in japan and i was in berlin or he was in the us and i was him one is obviously didn't matter. they got that connection meant a lot to both of us with. it was only a couple of years later that they began to discuss this out 1st actually edward was very keen that then he had visit the west bank he said why don't you visit it why don't you see how it is on

the other side. that man always was thinking we have to do something for our people and of course and with that. the opportunity came for the west to become a reality. was . i mean it's not often that you find scholars that are so deeply interested in music and musicians that are so deeply interested in philadelphia and so they had an immediate connection at that level and of course because of their backgrounds one

being by identity palestinian of course educated in an anglo-american environment in in egypt and then. on the united states for edward sayed and for bound by most of his life he did not live in israel but he had a clear jewish and israeli. strands in his background and both of them are humanists so both of them see the concerns. of the contemporary middle east through their own lens as well as through the lens of a broader a broader perspective i think they wanted others to be able to enjoy this type of this type of encounter in this type of can. actually they had this shouldn't be a privilege of the few live everyone should be able to connect with that good at. the beginning and. one of the things ever said about this project

is. through this project the language of music with with teach these young students and the sand musicians to think differently they will be thinking in alternative ways and trying to break that impasse we are in now if not their generation that they will pass it on to their children this experience and maybe. so that's how i see it looking beyond seeing the situation we're in always in all the time in 2 ways. if i told you that goal from the beginning i went there one of the conversations for the dialogue it would be a life of course i went for the special musical experience but then once there i am damned proud to ask myself the questions the good questions. or the bad questions

also about the situation there and then restarted to talk with friends or started to know so many things about others about the differences about and how to how to connect i hope you understand the differences of the other. the westminster. dam program which i grew dim also as a musician and watching so closely with. myself and one and with such an amazing musicians. the experience is unbelievable it's it is the highest level love of music making. and when you're sharing tweets such an amazing musicians that truly become such good friends of yours and people that in other situation you will never meet i will never have their option to play

nick klein a section we dang iranian trying at the sandman and cranny and. meeting one of the most pain france and experiences. it's now the orchestra goes on to wars from the salzburg festival to the lucerne festival the mother promised to the souls of albion and from there it wasn't like that before things were still developing. steele. you sucked in i was already playing with the divine in 2000 when edward site was still a long night and he came by and talked to the musicians through them within the relationship between him and my father was the roots of the west eastern divine father says that's how it came about and the academy is basically a continuation of that idea it is a view. we

are looking at a world that has a lot of discontinuity its problems with building up walls and shutting people off and a lot of unfortunate a kind of under taking any kind of. subversion of the critical and philosophically dia's that the western intellectual world had inherited from the enlightenment on heard that music is a universal language that means the same thing to everybody or fortunately speak to everybody. what better way to figure out what music needs them to do it in a project such as one has the worst use of the broadcaster and eventually the backbone so you become. bottom. i

swear to make music has to become one all come together and stay permanently connected. i want to from the start. that's why there's the philosophy i call it the thinking here is thinking there or. we created this curriculum linking the music that they playing to. other aspects of context and content but the original subject was music and also. but as soon as we developed it into a larger program we realised that that philosophy was one angle of humanities. plato where i asked you are such a smart philosopher plato student i want to learn what is the human being and i want to learn is there such a thing as truth and if plato were not plato but someone else he might say well let

me tell you after you die this is what happens to yourself and there is such a thing called truth and i the philosopher know it and these are the things you need to know if you come to my school 5 times a week i will teach you the truth he could do that but instead he says there was a cave imagine imagine this cave why do you think. he takes this route why would a philosopher take the time to write so many so many details when he could just tell us we're in the dark. in terms of what the musical world demands it doesn't seem to be necessary to have this broader education why is it that they should care about her colliders or or marx or simone de beauvoir. instead of just. playing for another hour but the potential of music is kind of limited when

musicians limit themselves to technical skill and performance we want to correct a tendency and to say you're missing the point if you're just playing it. for for for music sake so to speak there's a whole there mention that is that is lost. thanks so much pascal. thinking is fun it's like exercise for the brain and i'll through these texts and the philosophers we learn on an emotional level sort of america we get to know ourselves better because we ask ourselves more questions that we have of was when to have asked. and we get to know each other because we express our views in class and on my own time.

because it's hugely enriching for a musician because when you play you often have to recreate various emotions but you also need your brain to understand and analyze the pieces in coffee pot understood suffice to announce on a. man for instance let's say i've never felt lonely because i've always been around people. to find a bit of peace speaks of deep loneliness then i can recreate that because i've read about it in books or i can imagine it was fashion.

thank. you 2. i've come from a nonmusical family so i don't know how actually i got it probably i saw it on t.v. or something and i was really interested invited and i just said to my parents i want to study the violin and they are in of course they say try to find the teacher then and here we are in berlin. 2. no.

yes. the bow of the fingers. first time i met by swam the more. he came to another earth the cause of ottery and and i played for him a small piece then then off there feeling was i met him again in dresden festival he was incredibly charming he's very young and very lively for you are never initials and he said to me after me and my stroke and i play in the in the orchestra i would truly love to a. few feel me to be there he said but you're too young you're still 11 and that's a bit out of that he said if it helps i can also say i'm 20 i was obviously and so

on to. dance when i knew that this is an element for the imagery and the next summer i was there. v hard not to demand of course most of our students are from the region regular

middle east palestinians israelis syrians egyptians. hands like the west east and given it is not a project for peace fully one bring pigs this is a humanitarian project money is where you can it is not a political project and we're not trying to push any political opinion reefers opened. for us we rush to east does he what we want is for them to learn to listen to other people's views. and maybe even understand them without necessarily agreeing with them and for standards.

and exact was. working with these students who come from the middle east who would not be able to study together in the middle east you could not have. a person from tel aviv and a person from syria sitting in the same classroom anywhere over there. working with these people has really allows me to feel like i'm in some way connected to the realities of the region even though i'm not there. and that. i find a channel through which i feel i'm doing something even if it's not necessarily immediately visible and even if it's not political activism it feels like in some

way. my work is relevant to that reality. there's so much to say about. the hitler youth books and bring them here in the middle of the square authors who are writing in ways that were seen as anti german or degenerate yeah this is the term the nazis used to generate art it's a bit stuffy the surface it's hard to see inside but i invite you to take a look down there in the inside the hall there and see what you see. this is something that occupies me a lot. well in today and in jewish history and the current conflict in the middle east and how these things somehow. aren't in one going conversation these particular identities and you know the jerusalem is now the place where the wall is now there is a wall in jerusalem we are here now taking our students through berlin and talking

about how walls don't last. just this image seeing students from the middle east here in berlin where survival is not an issue where identities can be negotiated where you feel free to connect with another through music and through sad. is just liberating. and beautiful yeah

c. when and what died and with that suddenly they came to me and they said if you want this project to continue you have to be involved as a family. because it wouldn't work at that price. they were like you know if i if we did not. participate. that the essence of the project the idea of both sides coming together that we're

not to be there with daniel by himself. and then the project would become something else completely. so i thought it's better that they continue their way it is because the message is far from. nothing. that i would like to formally introduce you to your audience i think it is the rid of that which. so i need and is the name sake of the building here so the barenboim say each academy you all remember who edwards are you the traitor so when we think of others what do you think that means as an idea. what is an up. there so. the others side. with this. the other was 1st used in homer's iliad to describe the true sions who are the non greeks they

were the other we are the greatest we are the center of civilization we are handsome and we smelled good which was the basic sort of tenets of morality mentioned greece and the traditions are just these barbarians who live across the sea and that's where the true others entered into the lexicon of western intellectual history and this is how it works i need uses the term other game the context of his work in his work humanism takes on a particular. relation and they mention. and not simply. give an ism in the sense of developing my potential. my skills my knowledge but human isn't in the sense of allowing a connection where previously they may not have been or. you know the question of of different human difference. and whether that notion of

difference can extend to very large collectivity such as west or east to orient an author. is something about which i'm very doubtful there's nobody for example who doesn't believe in the idea of human freedom or human dignity or compassion or human for eternity or love or whatever you want to call i mean to me it's much more interesting and impressive how cultures you know concept be feed each other across what are supposed to be lines of demarcation and to me are fact lines of code existence and complementarity and and camera point which is the word i use from almost from you know.

i mean we're trying to break down swirls we're trying to look at the walls of ideologies and political systems build find a way to bulldoze right through them to. to bring them down to through music and art and and expression i mean this is actually a fantastic story in the old testament about the wall of jericho being brought down by the by the blaring horns of trumpets i mean that's a great analogy for trying to accomplish. what you just learned it is how much you are similar and that sam there is no monster on the outer science. they want what you want.

we mainly are humans and we speak about are they nice here and we create friendships doesn't have anything to do we fit the place you were born in the thing the fact that we are all coming to do it means that already there is one thing that is common for all of us and not only music which is a big coming field. shorts was. just seeing how in the orchestra in the t.-bone when an israeli plays

a solo for the bow or clarinet or whatever everyone is happy and wants them to do well or news does or says mark these people under there is no other moment in life right now when an israeli wants the best for a palestinian over. there. was political.

he finds a time when i some lessons for the students gifts that all of them he has for them it's something that i really see as a role model in especially in the love for music that he it's reflecting from him. i don't want to give a book that will give you have a good combination here and now you have to reduce the volume by 30 percent so that he doesn't have to play for. the same and i'm surprised that someone who isn't a cellist could teach me in such detail. in the orchestra he can comment on each

instrument so it's rare for a conductor to be familiar with every instrument and able to solve any problem and people problem and just leave you must really take their harmonic bases very seriously for this is the most powerful element of harmony. melafix. the most powerful for is the harmony. and that's not a matter of opinion it is. almost. scientific. and then you'd better more have in common the way of challenging their students to think for themselves there is an american expression that says you stand on the the giant's shoulders and look beyond and that's what he did he looked beyond all its teachers all those people who came before him and tried to see something new in

and that's how he could end in students then yell does the same music a. huge vice least i don't know how successful we can be but i'm combination of music and philosophy with his image shows musical figures or feet. it's too early to say because at the end of the day it's still a musical academy. so how it's going to work out it's an

experiment and you know as long as an experiment is not finished just as in medicine you can't use a. well and we have to make sure that as it grows not how you teach has joined us they support our ideas he says and that teaching goes well beyond fingering and bowing technique saying is it so we all do this we thank you. thank you. thank.

the humanity defeat also for the poor it the musician and a conductor i was like why so i will hide how do you switch between all these languages without getting lost in your mind how do you know that it was on the stairs of the academy he was referring to you think too much just just switch and that's it don't don't think too much about it with him or you think too much to do more u. boats which just construct and not letting it be there naturally. and with a good education with a good with

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