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their own destruction is a bit complicated especially for using someone to tell them to your musicians. but they're not just so many possibilities to look at perform or to watch live concerts and as i have looked at from a live musicians and my father is a composer who told me if it's what you want to do with and you need to leave. when i heard about it i get it i don't really. such opportunity and i always wanted

to to do something else it was to study some literature to study bowlers always and when i saw that you think you know is it work and there and it was no question that i'm not going there. i mean on stage for 64 years now i played my 1st concert in 150-5050. i hope are to learn something in all those years and i'd like to pass that on i

think. it's one step in a vision i have long held. here i need to have this center where musicians from all over the middle east can learn to communicate with one another through music tony curtis your. yeah i mean this academy is slightly different with a program to counter specializing in the. you. the truth is that what saeed used to say a specialist is someone who knows more and more about less and less. and i believe that this problem is not limited to musicians but affects all of society essential .

thank . the idea started for having an academy where musicians would also study philosophy that was the that was the idea and that was how i heard of it shortly thereafter i met with mr barron boy and immediately it was clear that we share these ideas that it's a terrible shame that classical musicians nowadays specialize so much and get to reflect more broadly about what they do in ground themselves in the broader culture so it was clear that we could work together trying to to remedy that and it was

clear that that this was going to work. it was very interesting because it was the 1st time seeing a program. more broad than just music and i was always interested in more things but i never had really the time to expand or you know to really learn them. and that if they just. barely and i got excepted for their ear. if there.

this is what the murder course of one for. it has always been daniel barenboim stream to have an academy where students are educated his way that. fall that view he challenges every musician to acquire a universal education to be one to keep on learning and to see the bigger picture to say. thank. you greg you are. going through a very very. heartening and makes me happy that he's responding that i can i since i don't play an instrument i can't. it feels good. i'm surprised how how

much how nice the windows are i was worried about that it feels like a connection to the city which is right because this is not it and out next year a concert hall on the floor morning here to sing hall or something. is that every academy needs a home. but this is the only academy with a hole like this one that we were lucky because frank gehry turned out to be a fan of the west east and devalued his truck with ease ok when i told him that this idea was becoming reality he said. i really want to do this he said and i said mr careless because we want friends yet again mr gary you are probably the world's greatest architect we can't afford. i think he replied how could you say that for you to be able to walk through the west east and give an orchestra and for

this academy he used to be i'm the one who should bankers minds if he did everything for free it was an amazing gift as persecution. the 1st models i did were like a smaller version of a big concert hall and daniel's lying on his back he was in pain and he said but frank why are you doing that what happened to those other sketches you. and i said well they're not for seen him they're not normal they don't get. you done fast and carry. a conventional concert or a no point in doing that because no point in doing that. and they were the overalls . that was kind of intuitive thing i intuitively made them i didn't know why it felt right for the room but i was dismissing them because i

didn't have enough experience to know that the musicians could you know could make it work. time your son daniel said that frank gehry its 1st draft of the concert hall was to traditional for his liking so it was a kind of box. office finger gary and then gary started drawing that big bang spiral which became the 1st draft for the of lip tickle concert hall of the barenboim saeed academy so it's hard to believe but it's true. i was all for it and ripped the page straight out of his note the god i. found.

the 1st year was in just across in their perilous strait more living people students from. the region and it was very exciting because we were like a small family very fast we became really good friends. yeah and then one year after we moved here of course $25.00 more students arrived and it started to feel more like an academy week many people and the syria and iran 20 something people so now it's a real functioning academy so it's really nice to see how it feels to

such an institution. to travel to israel palestine lebanon jordan and egypt to recruit to find students to hold auditions to tell them about the academy. and we have about now i think close to 80 percent of our student body and soul from the middle east from the middle east and north africa which is something i'm very proud of because that is the. bribery. is sort of our remit of this institution but one of our primary objectives. it.

certainly. right to hurt you. eat. like my. thanks. my husband every saturday and then you invent him what i'm meant by accident at the hotel in london i believe it was 992 history and he came up to me and said you don't know me mr barenboim i'm edward saeed. i replied we've never met but i know very well who you walk with. he laughed and we talked for

a while and then i said i'm sorry that i have to go have a rehearsal yes he said can i wait for you certainly i replied i would love to continue our conversation so proud that's why i believe that was in june 1902 if i'm not mistaken. we spoke almost every day almost every day until his death. whether he was in japan and i was in berlin or he was in the us and i was in one his eyes didn't matter there was a god that connection meant a lot to both of us everything. it was only a couple of years later that they began to discuss projects out 1st actually and would was very keen that that me and visit the west bank he said why don't you visit it why don't you see

how it is on the other side. than here all the way this was thinking we have to do something for our people and of course and with a good with that. the opportunity came for the west is the land to become a reality. was . i mean it's not often that you find scholars that are so deeply interested in music and musicians that are so deeply interested in fantasy and so they had an immediate connection at that level and of course because of their backgrounds one being the

bad entity palestinian of course educated in an anglo-american environment in in egypt and then. on the united states for edward sayed and for bound by most of his life he did not live in israel but he had a clear jewish and israeli. strands in his background and both of them are humanist so both of them see the concerns. of the contemporary middle east through their own lens as well as through the lens of a broader a broader perspective i think they wanted others to be able to enjoy this type of this type of encounter in this type of can. and that they had this shouldn't be a privilege of the few lives everyone should be able to connect like that to. the as one of the things at that said about this project.

through this project the language of music with with teach these young students and the sand musicians to think differently they will be thinking in alternative ways and trying to break that impasse we are in now if not their generation that they will pass it on to their children this experience and maybe. so that's how i see it looking beyond seeing the situation we're in always in all the time in 2 ways. if i told you that goal from the beginning i wonder why the conversations drove the dialogue it would be like of course i went for the special musical experience but then once there i am done proud to ask myself the questions are good questions. or the bad questions also about the situation there and then they restarted to talk

with friends who started to know so many things about others about the differences about and how to how to connect and how to understand the differences of the other . the west uncertainty finally it is damn program which i grew the most as a musician and watching so closely with day. one and with such an amazing musicians. experience is unbelievable it's it is the highest level love of music making. and when you share it with such an amazing musicians it truly become such good friends of yours and people that in other situation you will never meet i will never have

a day option to play mankind i section we day running and trying to send me ample astin. and it's meeting one of the most pain france and experiences. now the orchestra goes on to words from the salzburg festival to the lucerne festival the mother promised to the souls of albion in berlin it wasn't like that before things were still developing. steele. you sucked in i was already playing with the divine in 2000 when edward site was still a long night when he came by and talked to the musicians through them with the relationship between him and my father was the roots of the west eastern divide us that's how it came about and the academy is basically a continuation of that idea if you say.

we are looking at a world that has a lot of discontinuity its problems with building up walls and shutting people off and a lot of unfortunate a kind of under che king and a kind of. subversion of the critical and philosophical a dia's that the western intellectual world had inherited from the enlightenment on court that music is a universal language that means the same thing to everybody or fortunately speak to everybody. what better way to figure out what music needs than to do it in a project such as one has the words used in the broadcaster and eventually the background so you're. welcome. i

swear to make music is to become one all come together and stay permanently connected. i want to die from the start. that's why there's the philosophy of i call it the thinking here or. we created this curricula linking the music that they play to. other aspects of context and content but the original thought was music and philosophy. but as soon as we developed it into a larger program we realized that that philosophy was one angle of humanities. plato where i ask you are such a smart philosopher plato students i want to learn what is the human being and i want to learn is there such a thing as truth and if plato were not plato but someone else he might say well let

me tell you after you die this is what happens to yourself and there is such a thing called truth and i have a philosopher know it and these are the things you need to know if you come to my school 5 times a week i will teach you the truth he could do that but instead he says there was a cave imagine imagine this cave why do you think. he takes this route why would a philosopher take the time to write so many so many details when he could just tell us we're in the dark. in terms of what the musical world demands it doesn't seem to be necessary to have this broader education why is it that they should care about her clitoris or can't or marks or. instead of just. playing for another hour but the potential of music is kind of limited when

musicians limit themselves to technical skill and performance we want to correct a tendency and to say you're missing the point if you're just playing it. for for for music sake so to speak there's a whole they mention that is that is lost. thanks so much pascal. thinking is fun it's like exercise for the brain in animals and i'll through these texts and the philosophers we learn on an emotional level serve america and we get to know ourselves better because we ask ourselves more questions that we otherwise wouldn't have asked. and we get to know each other because we express our views in class and all models are.

just fine from us because it's hugely enriching for a musician because when you play you often have to recreate various emotions but you also need your brain to understand and analyze the pieces in coffee pot understood can suffice to announce on a museum. for instance let's say i've never felt lonely because i've always been around people. to find some kind of peace speaks of deep loneliness then i can recreate that because i've read about it in books or i can imagine it was fashion.

2 i come from a nonmusical family so i don't know how actually i got it probably i saw it on t.v. or something and i was really interested in violin and i just said to my parents i want to study the violin and they hear it of course these 3 try to find their teacher and then and here we are in berlin. 2. well.

that's. the goal of the fingers. first time i met by swam the world. he came to the nazareth for the cause of ottery and and i played for him a small piece that they're off their field months i met them again in droves in festival he was incredibly charming very young and very lively for your never initials and he said to me after me most of my playing in the in the orchestra with 3 lost to a 5 fuel fee on me to be there he said but you're too young you're still 11 he said and that's a bit out of that he said if it helps i can also say i'm 20 kylie i was out if it's

on sci fi. and i knew that this is an element from infantry and the next summer i was there. very hard not to do manhunt of course most of our students are from the region regular middle east palestinians israeli as syrians egyptians.

dissolving hands like the west east and dan it is not a project for peeves that one bring pigs their sister humanitarian projects money for your kind but is not a political project and we're not trying to push any political opinion reefers open for. ringback us we lurch to east does what we want is for them to learn to listen to other people's views. and maybe even understand them without necessarily agreeing with me that.

it is. that is exactly why i. was working with these students who come from the middle east who would not be able to study together in the middle east you could not have . a person from tel aviv and a person from syria sitting in the same classroom anywhere over there. working with these people has really allows me to feel like i'm in some way connected to the realities of the region even though i'm not there. and that. i find a channel through which i feel i am doing something even if it's not necessarily immediately visible and even if it's not political activism it feels like in some

way. my work is relevant to that reality. there's so much to say about. the hitler youth brotherhood books and bring them here in the middle of the square authors who are writing in ways that were seen as anti german or degenerate yeah this is the term the nazis used to generate art it's a bit stuffy of the surface it's hard to see inside but i invite you to take a look down there in the inside the hall there and see what you see. this is something that occupies me a lot. well in today and in jewish history and the current conflict in the middle east and how these things somehow. aren't in one going conversation these particular identities and you know the jerusalem is now the place where the wall is now there is a wall in jerusalem we are here now taking our students through berlin and talking

about how walls don't last. just this image seeing students from the middle east here in berlin where survival is not an issue where identities can be negotiated where you feel free to connect with another through music and through song. is just liberating and. and beautiful

c. when emma died and with that suddenly they came to me and they said if you want this project to continue you have to be involved as a family. it does it wouldn't work at that it was. there when right you know if i if we did not. participate. that the essence of the project the idea of both sides coming together that we're

not to be that with daniel by himself. and then the project would become something else completely. so i thought it's better that they continue the way it is because the message is power for. nothing. that i would like to formally introduce each year my instinct is to read a book that would. i need and is the name sake of the building here so the barenboim say each academy you all remember grew and receded strange so when we think of others what do you think that means as an idea. what is an other. person. the others side. of this. the other was 1st used in homer's iliad to describe the true sions who are the non greeks they

were the other we are the bridges we are the center of civilization we are handsome and we smell good which was the basic sort of tenets of morality ninja greece and the trojans are just these barbarians who live across the sea and that's where the true others entered into the lexicon of western intellectual history and this is how it works i even uses the term other in the context of his work in his work humanism takes on a particular. relational dimension. and not simply jim an ism in the sense of developing my potential. my skills my knowledge but human isn't in the sense of allowing a connection where previously they may not have been or. you know the question of a difference of human difference. and whether that notion of difference can extend

to very large collectivity such as western east to orient an author. is something about which i'm very doubtful or there's nobody for example who doesn't believe in the idea of human freedom or human dignity or compassion or human for eternity or love or whatever you want to call i mean to me it's much more interesting and impressive how cultures you know constant p. feed each other across what are supposed to be lines of demarcation. and to me are in fact lines of code existence and complementarity m and counterpoint which is the word i use from almost from you know me.

i mean we're trying to break down these walls we're trying to look at the walls of ideologies and political systems built in find a way to bulldoze right you're them to. to bring them down to through music and art and and expression i mean this actually a fantastic story in the old testament about the wall of jericho being brought down but by the blaring horns of trumpets i mean that's a great analogy for trying to accomplish. what you just learned it is how much you are similar and that sam there is no. monster on the outer side they want what you want.

we mainly are you know we speak about are they mean acts here and we create friendships doesn't have anything to do we fix the place we were born in piecing the fact that we are all coming to do it means that already there is one thing that is common for all of us and not only music which is a big common field. short's was. just seeing how in the orchestra in the t.-bone when an israeli plays

a solo for oboe or clarinet or whatever everyone is happy and wants them to do well on moved to justice who mock skip under there is no other moment in life right now when an israeli wants the best for a palestinian all vice versa because. it was. if even the fish.

can. keep trying it's time to organize some lessons for the students gifts that all that he has for them it's something that i really see as a role model in especially in the love for music that it's reflecting from him. and. let us know whether you have a good dialogue here you have a good combination here and now you have to reduce the volume by 30 percent so that he doesn't have to play for. 6 which accent about the same and i'm surprised that someone who isn't a cellist could teach me in such detail the kind of you know in the orchestra he

can comment on each instrument and it's rare for a conductor to be familiar with every instrument and able to solve any problem and problem and just i think you must really think that harmonic bass is very seriously done for good it's the most powerful enemy of harmony. melafix really the most powerful for this is their home. and that's not a matter of opinion it is. almost. scientific. evidence and then you're better at income and the way of challenging their students to think for themselves there is an american expression that says you stand on the the giant shoulders and look beyond and that's what he did he looked beyond all listed service all those people who came before him and tried to see something new

in and that's how he connected students then and does the same musically. each vice least i don't know how successful we compete with on combination of music and philosophy with his initial nose musical she has a fee. to feel it's too early to say because at the end of the day it's still a musical academy. with how it's going to work out it's an

experiment and you know as long as an experiment is not finished just as in medicine you can't use a. well and we have to make sure that as it grows and you teach has joined us they support our idea he says and that teaching goes well beyond rain and bowing technique saying is it so good news for you thank you thank. thank .

the humanities defeat also for the poet the musician and a conductor i was like what's around the high how do you switch between all these languages without getting lost in your mind how do you do that it was on the stairs of the academy it was records you think too much just just sort of show that's it don't don't think too much about it with more you think too much more votes which just because trucked and letting it be there naturally. it with a good education with it would with

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