she painted me. and. i am fascinated that is who looked at me in. the secret of mona lisa starts july 3rd d. w. . things are in the malls of the media against hezbollah move being engaged also if i think the israeli incursions and aggression is money out of companies government proxies are pockets in the american house lebanon's hezbollah movement is condemned as a terrorist group by many countries including the us and most arab states but it also has a powerful political face with seats in parliament and government my guest this week from beirut is one of its politicians who have musawi how does the self named

party of god reconcile its very different activities. we welcome to conflicts around welcome to you thank you good morning 89 months oh of mass demonstrations against the political elite you included and nothing is changing where are the reforms that have been promised so many times in lebanon well this is a long story actually when you want to talk about the reforms and lebanon when you want to talk about the reforms and you have to talk about the elements of the system we have been plagued by the most like of ailments and political diseases about my say and this is a long way to go actually it has to do with the confessional system it has to do with the economy that we follow or imposed it does not necessarily belong

to the benefit of the people that's why we're going to continue to have this vicious cycle as long as we continue to stick to the same system you know what you you it was part of there something i continue to do the same think you've got to expect our very young to result you know you better some responsibility for this is what i have because. your party your movement you are king makers in the design of this so-called latest government of technocrats you also have seats in the cabinet so i ask where are the reforms why aren't you pushing for them you blame the system i'm asking a king about some point of having you in government if you don't bring it out for the ailments i'm talking i'm talking about the ailments of this system that has been going on going on for so many years i mean for decades now we have reached we should be held responsible for what happened every about these are responsible for those who are in the government we are part of the government we don't deny what

responsibility we have to embrace our full responsibility of this we were there to take part in that a small responsibility but the still when you talk about the kind of reforms that we want to do they should be structural we are one component of the mosaic of components of course that us is in the lebanese society we take our share of others has to take their responsibilities and they should be blamed for what they did there was a sense of urgency and now mr mousawi is there's a sense of great urgency now because of last week last week a financial advisor working with the government in talks with the i.m.f. he resigned saying there was no sign of note of reform and he wouldn't go along with attempts to dismiss the size of losses in the financial system as he said which means he wasn't prepared to lie about the state of affairs he's home we shall all now former advisor to the finance ministry and he said i've come to the realisation there is no genuine will to implement either reforms or

a structuring of the banking sector why is there no will to reform you talk to me about all the problem if he says there's no will to do it you're not going to address them in the future as you did in the past we've been pushing hard we've been pushing and doing a lot of pushing the government to do actual and structural reforms and what's happening. i tell you yes that is a kind of car use in diagnosing the problem that are differences in the numbers and the estimates of the loss of the loss that's taking place in the financial in the economy level but the still do tell you that we are part of this government no we're being part of other governments before and we need to take a lot of sponsibility in this and be doing this about to tell you the truth we've been engaged in fighting the feeder groups along the border line in the east of lebanon and we've been engaged also in fighting the israeli incursions and aggressions and. you know that a lot many israeli incursions for

a very long time have been haven't even israeli incursions so no no. so if you have been a human being in parliament living in the consequences we've been we've been we've been fighting the continuous israeli incursions and. they have been a scary thing they are the elections for our sovereignty and on the ground even in c. they are trying to blackmail lebanon for its share in the oil that now we have reservoirs of oil of the sea so you're talking about a lot of threats that i think you could threats from the israeli side under the wind up of islam is the most a way i'm talking about something i'm talking about the fact that you were in parliament since 1992 has been a law in government since 2005 you will be enormous influence in lebanon and you've watched the growing economic collapse and the corruption why why the corruption is getting worse transparency international's report last year showed 68 percent

thought corruption have increased in the previous 12 months perhaps more shockingly 65 percent said they'd use you know personal connections when dealing with the courts of justice so your courts are now rotten you've been in government a very long time and you haven't managed to change anything you say you take your responsibility but there's a sense of urgency now and nothing is getting done no this is this is. ok ok this is something that should be addressed we are part of the government of this is a question that should be addressed to the whole government you're talking about a country we're talking about a state that has 17 sects you are talking about more of the dozens of political parties we are part of this parties we've been busy doing other very important this lethargy of things against existential threats from the israelis on the feet is others we're heavily engaged inside the bodies politics you know before the city and with a lot of from lebanon in 2005 the old governments were not part of the governments

and this kind of system has been going going on for decades so you boys firelit have much if you hold fire over the government yes yes yes. look what you want you're going to decontextualized what happened we will among the 1st to have the thought of fighting the corruption we can we said that good option is that the pretty good at the list we fight the genuinely we are going to reach where we reach now the collapse of the everybody's going to make system yeah you talk about a lot about your generation you talk a lot about corruption but nothing gets done. you know in november haasan those are all you know you don't let the nazis out just a month he called on lebanese judges investigating corruption exact again with hezbollah he said if there's a case related to any person and hezbollah go ahead start with us if you don't be scared really is that a genuine offer is this tell you and this tells you that we are very straightforward this tells you that you have a straightforward on the transparent very general and embrace english we want it

doesn't have 2000 tell anything of the saudis in plain english i mean it doesn't it doesn't say that god doesn't say that about we're talking about. their we're talking about judiciary system we're talking about the system that we want to reform you know the only thing that you can do is to bring your files to the judiciary in order to follow up the cases we have the problem in the dictionary we have a problem in the do the dishes the system of the problem of the political system a problem in the going to go to make system we cannot simply hold someone but if you just want to before what happened we think i want to hit and we are trying to join forces with others in order to fight this corruption you tell me this going to start let's dismiss the most out way you go out because we need to have the most out we have some not so as additional their votes and i will point it out as i pointed out as an as alice said starts with us if there's anybody and hezbollah start with us you think people have forgotten with us but you don't think people

have thought often what happened in 2008 when the government tried to remove your corrupt airport officials and closed down its illegal communication system what did you do you see east parts of beirut by force and you brought them to a virtual standstill the fact is you're just the same now as you were then show you might throw a few minor officials under the bus about but the top officials involved in corruption know never going to deal with them are you absolutely nothing about this is not the true actually i'm sorry to tell you that you have this information i don't know who told you this the officer was in the report it was not the. a person we'd have never supported and you could up a person of the other $211.00 say the lesson is to start with us if we are caught up we did not go love we did not fight on with the nazis bed with as you said because of the supporting corrupted people we did thus because we went the funding a lot of distance because a very dangerous this is and has been taken in order to cut of the then

a communication of the resistance and you know when you fight an enemy like the israeli enemy was supremacy and there aren't any communication you have to have your own channel to fight this enemy all right mr masel wait upset supporting corruption and that sort of you use this let's let's talk about only you don't massive street protests that we've seen in lebanon in recent months one moment you seem to be listening to them then you claimed with no evidence that they were being exploited by the us and israel and then last october you said you were thugs to beat up the demonstrators because they dared to criticize your leaders absolutely not. i'm not i'm certain i'm sort of them i didn't i don't know you like that i'm not i don't know that you showed that we send our people do you have the proof it was widely reported that one of those i didn't we but i guess that in october and december widely you know the media sure you want in the media i'm in the media this is a misinformation there we don't make it out i can tell you i live mr mousawi i make it up i live it and i tell you. i tell you do it we are not part of

those who suppress the people and we are with the masses we are with those who are the ones that i think we want to protect them we have the same issue actually we consider mr mousavi in december your supporters attacked an anti-government protest camp in central beirut and the army had to be called in to disperse the groups around the same time you and your allies from amal targeted other anti-government protest camps in different parts of lebanon so much for listening to the demonstrators and heeding their demands you beat them up. i can simply say this is not the true actually this is genuine there was tension by the people we were very happy to see that people came down to the streets in order to protest against all the corruption against what's happening we supported them and i can i was part of this kind of the plot i see this kind of negotiations this kind of discussions with our people and some of our people went and they were they took

part in these demonstrations and the end of this is the most the nation the ultimate goal that they want it is a very good goal actually we have supported it from the very beginning now after a few days some groups jump on the most traitors and try to use it for other political reasons not for the economy or financial reform of the system not to fire the corruption was the problem when they started to attack the civil society the civil public places the government forces in the field we have never attacked anyone of them and i'm sorry i hear this you saying this you have 2 sets but other than that i can tell you someone somewhere you know very well that this was widely reported at the time from respectable news agencies and respectable news organizations look the point is right now the right part of what has been reported is not right as as always as always right now your

as always what as always a claims that as always the other job misreported you're always claim you're misreported. you must be a very misunderstood. we know no there is an agenda you know it i know it from superpowers a from regional powers which does a great us as a journalist and that if you come to debate on people millions of people support our cause well it is a science movement fighting for our liberation from the israeli occupation fighting in order to. keep our country the integrity of the country the consistency of the country the dignity of the country of the liberation of the bandits of the country but you are absolutely right so far as the rest of the world is a little or a lot of the world 'd is concerned you are toxic you are widely labeled a terrorist group not just by the u.s. and u.k. but most of the arab world and the british government prescribed you're in town or

going to ization last year and accused you of supporting terrorism in iraq and the palestinians territories so in the west eyes as well as most of the arab world then all of you are seen as terrorist how you are going to get money from the international community when you are part of the government seen as a terrorist group how do you expect lebanon to get money from the international community that is about holy this is the only story this is. this is the whole the story actually you start the from one place to subrogate they come 3 your budget you'll want to dictate your own policies you don't agenda against it if the people fight back for the silver and the dignity you are stuck with this book a deal to stop with the siege to start with the sanctions and punishments if you say you know when you talk about the out of bullets on the out of systems of the governments when you talk about saudi arabia is this a democratic country or a democratic government that you are talking about most of the. governments and the

out a book they look at us as these that i it is as the western government label us this does not say much and if he has not got to be saying that this is the light or this is wrong if you out of the majority does not mean that you ought to light we. independence of 'd 'd resistance against the occupation against they're going to make subjugation and that's why we are in a bit of stuff from the united states and you know money out of countries governments. pockets in. america and yeah but the fact is you need like the member of the needs western money and with you constantly threatening the united states they're not going to get it out of a lebanon is not going to get you in government if you are one of the big easy jobs it was by the united states. we are being victimized by the united states the united states support israel the clashing the people the palestinians people rights that are rushing the palestinian people hopes in order to obvious of it in the

state this is the united states of this is there was no they out of trying to annex the west bank you know that very well they next good on how it's you know that very well ok i'll give you an example what about egypt and jordan they have signed negotiations with the 3 things they have signed peace treaties with israel and according to the american and western women and to the fact that you are an obstacle to getting the american and european law enforcement has spent years jotting your group of nuts on all subsequent actions and then we can't really know you drug cartels and illegal money laundering operations stretching into africa and latin america you say you don't get involved in this kind of criminality chaffing trafficking narcotics is again goes over those words you say that you say that evolution's from some of your own legal that they are you know in gauged in this kind of criminal activity. if you have something if you have something on the record a few have real files come and show them we have always

a challenge then he states and all those who you say that we are. we have that kind of collaboration with the criminal groups or money laundering or whatever come and show us you would evidences ok i have got you here's an example here's an example for you that has been used by the western here's an example for you let's take a man called chetan aksu he pleaded guilty in august 2012 to providing material support as by law checked in aksu he pleaded guilty in august 2012 to providing material support for hezbollah conspiring to acquire anti aircraft missiles and conspiring to import heroin into the us you think he made that he pleaded guilty strange thing to do if he wasn't he pleaded guilty to doing that on your behalf you think do you think that if this do you think this is very the i can give you scores of examples from the united states like when they put someone in jail or put them under the 3rd that they can make files as much as they

want the problem is that you are taking their eyes states as an example example of the model for transparency for authenticity for genuine at the there are layers about this actually really and that's your best answer is a let's try joseph a smart man called joseph asma accused of trying to use his links to hezbollah to launder drug money he pleaded guilty in the u.s. to a money laundering conspiracy charge prosecutors said he boasted that he could use his hezbollah connections to provide security for drug shipments my question to you is what is the party of god doing this is offering security for illegal drugs. this is not listen this is this is not if you want to have something like that this is not going to be discussed on the media you have to take it to the judiciary and lebanon we have a judiciary system that we want to do for him he said i'll get these people have appointed not guilty what. yeah money people do the guilty actually. if you

want the united states can make a whole population pleading guilty i mean the american policy is they make the palestinian people plead guilty because they are fighting the commissioners and why don't you take such issues you have these because the actual izing the contextualizing issues they can come them from that is that a context to put them and their labs and only in one part in one segment that will distort their image um so analyst mr mossad where you're trying to you're trying to muddy the waters according to the drug enforcement agency has been increasingly relies on criminal revenue from this by derive sources that include the lebanese diaspora group members affiliates etc the organization is even competed for money laundering contracts in the same manner as colombian drug cartels and other criminal organizations so you belong with some shady new groups on the international crime scene don't you you can't you can't continue to mention all if

you want to continue this episode as long as you want you can continue to mention as much as you want of examples but this is not going to change the truth that these are things are put in the most of the western media against hezbollah against any. resistance movement against an existence group in order to distort the image in order to justify the sections against it you asked for examples i gave you so let's talk if we may about your support for the assad government bashar al assad in syria despite its shocking disregard for human life especially civilians you could hardly claim of what they've been doing or don't you the party of god have anything to say about policies of rape torture and extermination that bashar al assad and his forces have been carrying out you've got no principles no red lines as far as

that sort of behavior is concerned. let me ask you about the western media about huge government of the western governments of the united states governments and what they did to the israelis who crush the people every day who start and who pipe out of lebanon who buy parts of the golan heights and who continue to occupy also they want to annex part of jordan parts of of other places i mean if we are asking those questions in other programs i'm talking to you or not as vala i'm talking to you about hezbollah because you represent hezbollah and i'm on why you decide once not you support hezbollah regime in syria that the fairies out extermination policies towards its own people will think of our cause we are fighting we we'll we will fight think that theory groups who beheaded people who took the hearts of people who caused much g. the children who made an election this is we were fighting the taxi groups it is

a priority because they came and they gave it a good actions against our part of the country you know we had a wide open actions against the north lebanon and on the downtown syrian and russian mr mousawi no not on syria now a question about why you say i've been letting the question i actually holds a regime in syria we have followed issues i think you know going to speak with. we are we are if i think that vili groups in syria fighting that theory groups who were sent were trained by the united states of america in the record it's there you know with even the american officials that acknowledge that and they said that they made the mr the south wales that video game poison thing is that by lending mr assad you support you became complicit in everything he did and these are crimes against humanity the u.n. high commissioner for human rights in syria had got up and said a torture chamber they are complicit they are complicit with the with mohamed been

said about all of those there are threats that this is making in yemen. the united states and britain and all governments you are complicit with like you have your game changing the subject why cannot it change you know such and yemen right you are not changing the subject i love a lot of you know i pull you though you are trying to equate out you are trying to equate things and in a long way i want to hold you responsible you are it irresponsible place for what you are doing in other places now you are talking about the resistance movement to the present only a small size of the about his government and you want to hold the responsible for all the evils in the region while you want to wash your hands from all the atrocities that are holding me responsible for the evils just just loved ones he was in government just the ones that you were involved in and not everybody in your group is happy about your support for syria shaikh so be to faily who was a leader of hezbollah said a few years ago hezbollah should not be defending the create criminal or

a hidden sense that kills its own people. now can i just finish the question who can i just really serious question is the messiah which one can i can i just finish the rest of this is that individual person you're talking about when i just finished the question he said hezbollah should not leave his identity criminal regime that kills its own people and that has never fired a shot in the defense of the palestinians those hezbollah fighters who are killing children and terrorizing people and destroying houses in syria will go to hell and cannot be considered as martyrs. how do you respond to the talking about one individual subject find you're not talking about you're talking about one individual so he tried to get a presence only himself if he were to present himself this is one thing he's an enemy to hezbollah because he was the leader of the need is a low no this is one thing about the i can bring you scores of other officials that do not agree or condone what the western governments do is does this make sense to

you in the same track as well mousavi you haven't answered the question we're running out of time let me just give you a final question we know that lebanon is fragile. the how to fight child is that they have actually well how fragile is the country and what is the danger of a new civil war in lebanon. as long as long as the americans continue their plots of conspiracies as long as they continue their siege against the government as long as they want to punish the holy about these people not on the hezbollah this is going to continue to be a crisis for lebanon but we're not on the verge of the over 7 wote it's not like that you are talking now about the last phase of the american wisdom conspiracy against the country they were not able to defeat hezbollah in 2006 not before now they have moved into this sanctions and to this siege and to this embargo into this located against lebanon ok so you said also it's out of the whole the west it was a fold it's all the west for mr mousawi who was so we thank you very much for being

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