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2nd world war an organization founded with a mission to foster peace and cooperation but currently facing the challenges of an increasingly fractious world we'll hear from the deputy director general i'm phil gayle in berlin and this is the day. the president's. national interests are not easily separated from the global. rise leaders always put the good of their own people. and their own country 1st shared. shared responsibility shared. shared. the future does not belong to global lives the future belongs to patriots. and to recognize the vital importance.
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also on the day of the ongoing war in libya and the lack of international agreement even amongst allies on how to bring the fighting to an end there are differences between that well as. the situation in libya we agree that we need to support you and i 1st of on the political negotiated solution to the conflict in the in libya. by friday mark 75 years since the signing of the charter that established the united nations formed after the deaths of more than 60000000 people during world war 2 its mission to preserve international peace and security is a stallin thing now as it's ever been the un's deputy secretary general will join us in just a moment 1st this look back at the organization she helps to lead. june 26th 1945. as the 2nd world war came to an end diplomats and politicians
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gathered in san francisco to sign the charter of the united nations their goal was clear. the full unity of the terminator. by. rar i in the last 75 years our lot has happened the universal declaration of human rights peacekeeping missions and vironment and development aid i think it means a great deal to have a vote organization which can discuss every seeing any any item and take up these items to take action if there is a need for action. there hasn't been a new world war since 945 but regional military conflicts have been keeping the u.n. busy and in recent years rising nationalism in many member states has started to
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threaten the u.n. principle of multilateralism at the forefront of this development the united states and president donald trump hughes america is governed by america. we reject the ideology of globalism and we embrace the doctrine of patriotism. trump has threatened to cut the un funding many times that would have a huge impact as the u.s. contributes 22 percent of the un's $5400000000.00 corps budget. you know she never leaves you know nations because it has this permanent seat on the security council which it cannot really acquire in some way or another. so such a privileged position to abandon it that to give it up. will be real foolishness but with a president which you united states has at this time one never knows. financial
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instability regional conflict and a global pandemic there are still many hurdles to overcome before the u.n. reaches its ultimate goal or world peace. well the un's deputy secretary general is i mean the hobbit i'm pleased to say she joins us from new york welcome to day. what would you say if you uns proudest achievement in itself to 5 history i think that was still standing if you had to reinvent if you had to scrap was that they would still be reinvented or was still standing and very much the charter and the values remain as as valid as they were in 1045 today and i think it's those values and the fact that we as an institution convene and continue to give hope to the aspirations of augmentin. and if it fell over and was reconstituted today do you think it would it would be reconstituted in the same way
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. well i would hope it wouldn't be reconstituted in the same way 945 was a different set of dynamics and today in 2020 i think we would probably still have the same multilateral system and convening but perhaps the stakeholder representation of we the people may not be the same as it was in the last 75 years and the challenges that we face today looking for different ways of responding to that in a manner that is has the right tools and has the right has the right political commitment and delivery for the needs in the world today so probably not and one would hope that it would be would be more inclusive it would be more representative more forward leaning and work together and it solidarity to address many of the issues that they don't quite get that you think it would. because the charity of
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your u.n. would still have 5 countries with the ability to overrule everybody else. i doubt that very much i mean in 1945 it made complete sense to have that i think today we've spent many years looking at security council reform and the argument has always been that power has shifted and the basis for the criteria for sitting at the table to recognize responsibilities as the global family are different and so therefore the table needs to be widened needs to be more representation and a better balance you'll be for reform of the security council. of course that would be anything that would transform a better response to just striving to achieve peace in the well today and we mind we might have avoided a 3rd world war and i think that that's credit to the united nations and the work that we've done in the security council but today we have so many more conflicts we have different needs and so i think that you know for that one needs to look at
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being fit for purpose and i would argue that we could do better. which was about the un's greatest achievement. which of answer would you point to as the un's worst failure worst failure goodness me i thought you know don't talk about what we did best worst failure. no i don't think i would say that there is a worst failure i think there are attempts of trying to resolve many complex issues and many leave a scar on the us or the things that we didn't quite do with the intentions that we had but i wouldn't be in the failure. and i think that. difficult times and there are moments in our history that we would look back on and wish that we had done better in rwanda better in man maher better in syria better
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in many parts of the world and it's not for want of trying so i wouldn't say failure i think people have lost their lives trying to do these things and they did it with the intention of the values that we hold sacred sure whether the current coronavirus a very very secretary-general save yesterday countries need to understand that by acting in isolation they are creating a situation that is getting out of control on the global coordination of the k. on paper the u.n. looks like the ideal forum for this to happen so why isn't it happening. well it's difficult when you put a 193 countries together and you try to get agreement with different interests of course you're not going to always get the answer or the response that you need i think we've been very clear from the beginning that when covert came along and put a pause in everything what it did make us understand is that this happened everywhere and everyone was affected by it and it needed
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a global response that needed for us to come together in solidarity but what we found is that people turned inwards and it was me 1st even in that we wanted to understand that you need to put the oxygen mask on before you can reach out and help others i think we have long now for those who need it the oxygen mask put it on and they should be helping in that global response to everyone do much better it is difficult to get consensus i had when i 1st joined the eurozone i was told by an old diplomats that you know the fact that looking for consensus among so many people often gives you the lowest common denominator but it still allows you to move forward with your agenda and with the aspirations and some of the incredible framework that we have. you mentioned the pause of the coronaviruses has of course a pandemic of course as batter many national economies. should the paris climbers agreement now be altered to reflect the fact that countries are probably going to
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do everything they can to boost output as quickly as they can especially given that the world's 2nd biggest polluter the united states has also turned its back on the steel. i don't think that's an option the paris agreement was carefully negotiated with the ambition that's needed to keep us on course so that we have a world to live in so to change it where to reverse that downwards i think that's what we're that's what we're pushing against we believe that we have the solutions that we continue to grow and we can do that green what courbet has shown us is that it's a it's an opportunity to change the way we're doing things and to try to build back better and greener and so when we're looking at climate action the investments the instance that are being made today from we're seeing that we need to bring power to people in countries rural actually cation and we're looking at everyone because everyone needs to get ahead of curve that we're saying why not solar and why not make those investments because in fact off grid we get power to more people than
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others so we actually think that the solutions to climate change in the actions that we take could actually result many of many of the issues that we see particularly in developing countries which are affected most by by the 3rd you know of of of course the fossil fuel economy space in the world which brings you back i think to a problem but you highlighted at the top of the program that of building consensus how do you build consensus around the concerns that you've raised there amongst politicians who are looking only as far as then that election rather than looking through into the next century. i think building ownership around the issues that you have a national interest in but we see very much without a global investment those national interests would not come to fruition i think it's making more parents to people that we are so interconnected code that has shown that overnight the most developed of economies have had to dole out trillions
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of dollars just to stay above water they've been able to do that and they've been able to do that it shows that really you need to to make sure that everyone is part of the solution or you will be as well affected no matter what we invest in in kota in the prevention of code in some part of the world if it's existing at any other part it's not over and so i think that interconnectedness. the supply chains that we saw disrupted that have really had an impact on the economy across the world just shows you how much we are better together and we've got to try to keep making that case not just to talk about we've got to have multilateralism because it's good that word unless you unpack it to show the returns in investing in multilateralism to that national interest but i think it's very difficult and that has to be done country by country region by
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region and it's why we convene it's why we have these different discussions and different forms why we have so many different frameworks where we try to get ownership and conversation going around the table really important keep everyone in the tent right every now and again but you want to escape but you have to try to keep corralling them because it is better that we are doing this together we can get for that less disruption less people suffer and we are more on track then for the aspirations of the u.s. and so and it's a piece of a fight over that all or more of the hoofs are trying to get out of the 10 to the u.s. president if mr trump follows through with a threat to withdraw the united states from me w.h.o. what impact is out likely to have on the organizations work. when a member state isn't horton does the united states has a challenge with the way and manner in which the united nations where we continue to hope that we can talk through that challenge and find the remedies for it so we
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would hope that we could continue to do that whether it is the w.h.o. or any other agency for that matter they are an important member of this family and we intend to try to keep them in the tent in the family discussing these issues finding the resolutions to the concerns that they have and i think that we have seen the secretary general and the w.h.o. leaning forward to try to wrote to resolve some of those challenges and concerns or thank you for joining us here at day w on the new odds are some to 5th birthday deputy secretary general i mean a j behold it thank you. thank you very much. international efforts to end years of fighting in libya took another small step today following talks between french president emmanuel macro and russian president vladimir putin france says it now has russia's backing in efforts to stabilize maybe i'm very unified since situations north african countries currently riven by conflict between rival governments and followed back wards and
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a robot will consider possible ways forward 1st this recap of the current situation . the dramatic downfall of an oppressive leader libya has been mired in conflict since the arab spring uprising in 2011 which toppled longtime dictator moammar gadhafi. in the aftermath attempts to build a democratic state failed and the country was plunged into an all out civil war it soon became a battleground for both local and regional aspirations to foreign powers such as turkey russia and the united arab emirates just selling for influence. since 2014 the fighting has largely been between 2 competing governments each with their own foreign backers on the one side the un installed all thora t. the g n
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a well the government of national accord in tripoli it's later fires. on the other side the libyan national army or l n n a led by military strongman hurley for half. the rebel general has been waging war with the jna and now controls around 2 thirds of the country including libya's lucrative oil fields but so far his attempts to take the capital tripoli have failed. then come the foreign players the g.a.a. is supported by turkey as well as qatar and many western countries while the l.n. a's main backers are russia the united arab emirates and egypt these foreign powers have increasingly intervened flooding libya with weapons and drones ignoring a u.n. arms and banner. at high profile peace talks in berlin earlier this year all parties agreed to more strictly enforce the embargo but a binding truce remained out of reach. with libya's so unstable
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the fear of resurgent islamic terror and a migrant exodus has many european neighbors worried. let's take a closer look at this we have our us al gore marty he's a political analyst from libya's 1st a think tank they say deck institute but welcome to day w. so we have russia and france agreeing to stabilize libya what does that mean. regretfully i don't think it means much because france has given latent support diplomatically speaking to the limit for the last 5 years or so given military support according to the new york times last year the pressure forces were being deployed with after during his offensive so when you create a peace deal or a call for a ceasefire typically between 2 sides oppose one another not the same side so russia trying to attempt to call for a cease fire seems to be done at
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a time when their man on the ground after is losing a lot of ground so it's almost not really much about peace preservation a little hotter territory specially as they move eastward all the g.n.a.s. forces the u.s. backed government and turkey moved eastward towards the vitally contested oil field in central libya so i don't really think it's a serious endeavor around peace seems quite cynical move around preservation. because we've had call after call for cease fires and maybe about the last one was in january byrne in conference and one wonders well if you've got all these major powers on the table and they're all signed up to me then why hasn't that why hasn't it happened yet. this is the true irony of looking at libya for this myself in the last decade but if we just look back at the last year it was the un backed government the osce the un and the chief nations behind the un like from like the
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u.s. like russia and china the key members behind the security council to sanction because he declared war on april 4th 201910 days before the culmination of the peace process that would have led libya about the democratic election the very same parties that refute being strong the u.a.e. egypt and others that have continued to support the war and facilitate the war and now calling for a peace process as you said in your earlier piece berlin with a really interesting time well well power focus on bringing back peace again that with chemical because many of the same party jeering the conference on january 20th in berlin were also shipping weapons namely the united arab emirates with shipping weapons into eastern libya to continue to the one i mean it's fascinating to think that wars don't just happen on their own may have. been a lot of serious design and there's lawyer behind war and it's giving libyans the ways and the means to fight that war and that's giving them massive amounts huge
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thousands of come to us like towards which are now coming from russia from syria from sudan to fight in libya acro drones that have been delivered by the way in egypt and russia and elsewhere but also turkey on the other side but also another to form part of it but also the diplomatic means to ensure that there is immunity for those forces the fight. despite this being his start attempt in 6 years to take the capital by force to renege on a peace deal because this is the 1st one that has done this he did it twice in 2014 there was an arrest warrant for him in tripoli he's been around for over 50 years you know ching to be 960 now and he's never been timeline can bend. unilaterally i just want to vent it's a fascination of mine let's talk about a cut country that seems to be on the verge of adding to this mayhem egypt which has its western border with libya it's allied itself with general allen i over the
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last few days president al sisi warned about being provoked into direct military involvement how much would a gyptian boots on the ground a change things well it's interesting because i'm not sure whether or not it at the moment it a war of words i think provoke i certainly think they will cross the border but egypt has a legacy of issues when going over into expeditionary and using them and launching a petition. so going over the border for them is a question of how far do they go if they go over to the cure of the border i think that could be quite you know that wouldn't be such an irate moment. given how much already there are other actors on the ground i don't know whether or not it would or how the calculus egypt is intimate but an economic crisis a political question to come to a bit of a current of i was ok i don't know commits huge numbers of course but it could
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change a lot if it was across the border it could add more mayhem and more problem diplomatically or we'll leave it that thank you so much for joining us and us algo matthew from this attack in 6 years thank you. well india is confronting the coronavirus crisis as parts of the country are still struggling to recover from cycling which tore through south asia a month ago communities in the bay of bengal bore the brunt of the storm much of india's sunderbans delta was left underwater many there now fear the disaster could impact their livelihoods for years to come. just while reports. a few hours from the bustling city of call gata. the landscape becomes transformed . into the sunderbans. to a diverse ecology and 4000000 people or. people who rely on fishing and farming to survive. but in me
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a massive storm biped out both options. these are the fresh water borne snoop and i wonder you used to fish and the violence of cycling breached all embankments killing the freshwater fish and sweeping out the prawns that could have survived the line water to see. what can we do while we're dependent on relief now once a lockdown is lifted reveal have to leave this in their bones to find there is nothing left to these islands in the some of the bones were evacuated before the cyclon. preventing paos of deaths. but just didn't return to utter devastation houses gone fields flooded crops destroyed. and even when the water drains a boss disaster short that céline deposits goods and this land in for
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a decade. in the summer months as a cycling for one region and we're still recovering from the impact of cycling i like 11 years ago cycle number one was worse and weeks after that this would mean land still lies inundated there also on temple of the solution. a group called the cotton team students youth network is helping little before draining céline water from these ponds thanks when the rains come they will again be filled with fresh water allowing fish farming to resume at least the draining can address serious health concerns as well the soft. public health and hygiene are seriously disrupted here and need to be distorted stagnant water is dangerous as it can lead to gastro intestinal diseases as well as skin conditions and then there is the often ignored issue of snake bite snake bite. when social lives like this
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one are trying to bridge a gap in the margins he responds they are limited in their d.h. . this has left locals driving about dangerous gaps in health care. the water is contaminated and we cannot drink it you know you feed you get sick and then getting to the hospital is difficult with all this flooding going on out there what you know you know you've seen that the roads are destroyed when a pregnant woman or one carrying a child balance herself while we did through these swampy waters to get to work in a company. that was the day the conversation continues online on twitter use we cannot follow up felt that you have a good day. true
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