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did you know how to do things she painted me. and. i can see names that used to look at me. my i'm sad. i am an unsolvable bridging. the secret of the only solid structure of my 3rd v.w. . so who looks after the interests of the poor something not the b j p is that. it would still be all i jotted down in full i've been stuck. on you managed to remove a judge who was asking for questions about your politicians about some of it is that india's government is in the firing line goes home and abroad accused of badly handling the coronavirus chipping away at democracy and lying about
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a recent battle between its own troops and chinese forces in the far north my guest this week from new delhi is sudan true trivedi a member of the upper house of parliament and the national spokesperson for the ruling b j p why does his party seem to show so much tolerance to those who found the flames of communal hatred. sudan church of 80 welcomes a conflict zone. let's talk about india's response to the pandemic 1st of all various aspects of your government's response have been massively criticized both inside and outside india a much the 24th your prime minister mr modi gave indians just 4 hours notice of a lockdown something that one indian writer called the most punitive and least
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planned lockdown in the world what did you expect $100000000.00 migrant workers spread out across the country to do with just 4 hours' notice. if you want to understand what very high status is the situation in this issue of won't say please keep up our china they'll be out of it yes nation in the world but under little to fight a war. with 70 percent of the people living in google area it's 27 percent it's still illiterate but people are sent living below poverty line you know or indian varies every day 25000000 people are terribly lonely and they saw also every say that war they should have been given
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a lot if you can see the sea for it it's number one well the fund delic broke out in the month of january there was only one letter. it must have been up when this now we are under 6 so or at a time we were not that much good the 2nd thing and dying there were a lot more actual hits because they were not for a lot for the actual or in the hospitals and the detail care unit 2nd now. that it's 2nd it never the less number of ventilators. so look i understand i understand mr prevented but millions of workers were left stranded in city choice with no food shelter money or means of transport did nobody in your government think of that when the announcement was made. it is bit you have military i would like to say this is the totally wrong. robert
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would have been but why did all those weary i did it but it will for those who why did those who were not having any idea the. second thing died it money is being transferred 1000 rupees to every farmers 500 rupees to every woman and daughter who are living below poverty line they were or why did gas not seen once we offer was this i am talking about the only double edition well i want to see and i'm just telling you that that the u.n. the u.n. did not by your comforting assurances u.n. experts said just 3 weeks ago we were polled at the disregard shown by the indian government towards internal migrant laborers especially those who belong to marginalize minorities and lower costs they said you'd failed to address that by humanitarian situation subjected them to police brutality and failed to stop their
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stick my ties ation as virus carriers. telling you telling me they don't know what they're talking about at the united nations. was i would like to complain 1000 crore rupees or people like that but deny her or. if your horse if i did 1000000 farmers what i get. in there. are lots. so there was nothing of this sort and imagine the relation are if one took millions if they are living in rule it out what would that mean a situation the government in. your district i would like to see all the international media there are certain elements in our system which try to give long information to them that are certainly let's talk about some of the bodies
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within india because some of you leading medical bodies also trashed the government's response didn't they the indian public health association the indian association of preventive unsocial medicine the indian association of epidemiologists they accused you of incoherent and often rapidly shifting strategies and policies relying on the predictions of mandalas they said well way off the mark i view of that charge. not in our hands those who are saying this we are the biggest democracy of the word and we do it a sect i would like to see from eastern europe and japan we are the only surviving i mean democracy the prime minister is uncertain of all the up with. all the chief ministers of the state and of the lockdown will do what is started dr percent of what went to the an arms foreign minister savant to be an al d'amato and the
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name of what in a stiff wind up. then up we sob and by the opposition government so it was the other political party do it it was realizing that it is a wideman lock down like i'm allowed to have a 2nd 5th of what not so if was to get that you closer to each other. right a distance of the explodes but assessments are heard even by mr this answer. and a little justice heart doctor will have a heart not to trivia if that was all true one by the 2nd week in june was the supreme court ordering the government to transport workers back to their homes within 15 days it also told the police to cancel all that charges against those who weren't able to get home by themselves it's something of a disgrace isn't it that the supreme court actually has to order your government to do the decent humane thing that most other governments would do by themselves so
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who looks after the interests of the poor certainly not the b j p is it the law i nodded they said such it's 100 percent the 3rd subject central government at least go back to this thread subject centered only controlling the center units. stole on the stand it was the primary responsibility of the spirit governments to look up the central government by to support them but many of the sources unfortunately because of some misguided and some mysterious i'm not accusing all some esteemed governments one and it will do all that but that i have action that has created a little bit and in some state governments of the day that they have the if it wasn't. an 11 or migrant labor camp but he said give if all i have at this and then the subsequent. men are never coming back people will buy bus
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with will that be managed and the central government has the ear or if i put it above cost of the remit to get it didn't percent once it was they said government so if there is any thing to be said arm the lot of the government as far as the my bill limit is concerned it's what at the bottom is still government because finding out what is the basic government when he doesn't think yes i think that is you know here's something that is your responsibility talk to have a let's let's talk about food by the end of april the food corporation of india had 77000000 tons of cereals in stock but instead of giving it to states with very little money or ruling party tried to sell it to them at market rates something which shocked economists rita kara from the indian institute of management for instance said the government's unwillingness to relent and give it free to the states is mind boggling i couldn't understand why you were trying to profit from
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this grain instead of giving to people who not to dance or to meet on a moment has given free of cost millions of those who are not having i've been to god but then the government has given free of cost like a jeep all. if i give your rice some well said and i'll double back if they saw that it has died at the moment but i thought dishes cost but not only did . it just been provided free of cost by government and the state governments of all or so would do respond by saying we'll say when you say you don't like janet then that can provide the start just. not when his is a statistic from the financial times which reported that of the the money most of the money that was given in extra funding it was less than $12000000000.00 or
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about no point 4 percent of india's g.d.p. g.d.p. that's one of the lowest levels of relief provided by any asian economy you proud of that on the contrary the government of india has provided a. well it took $21.00 macro rupee if we can stand percent of the g.d.p. just 10 percent of the g.d.p. but that figure isn't filtering through to international experts that's not filtering through and and also dr travail let's look at the special fund called the prime minister cas pm cas that has also brought a fresh deluge of criticism from around the country the prime minister launched this fund with great fanfare in march received some one point $27000000000.00 in funds which the government matched why so few details on how this money is being spent and why no official audit from the government or what it has the c.a.g. what have you got to hide here again i would like to see the fund of funds that you
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get in the month of mobs and the audit is done better than the financial your company who said in the 2 months of what you. did you can barely even they didn't you thought probably complete it. 50000 ventilators i call the quarter is that a cleveland given by a young kid fun i needed a new government fund in bed the prime minister if i can mend all ministers a member of the defense minister is a member nobody from any of the other parties nobody from the other party why why aren't all the documents related to this fund made public why the lack of transparency but if the question of lack of trust and an issue to get ends and anybody asks that what was left and it was done and if it's not sure anybody in other question and the time don't meet and then it's too late and then it's too late why don't you release the information now people are giving money what because
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workers have been asked to give money government workers have been asked to give money why shouldn't they see where this money is going now the government has already given. this light 1000 or 5 months i've been given to this separate details have been given which thankfully chosen on them and that was when there were. more than expenditures. but i did as you know there's been considerable controversy over the fact that all all the people in charge of this fund are from your party and if it's public money tell the public what's going on with it that's the point that people are making to you you know perfectly well it's been well reported in the indian press you are misled if you're not run by the members of it by peter than by the members of the government it's not usually that's my point it's meant run by members of the government only there's nobody from any of the other parties involved in making the
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decisions on this on this body nobody and nobody why not get your get me any finding somebody in the government of india. in which a member of the body of their identity knowing that you should the teacher of 80 it's not just your response to the pandemic that's attracted criticism agency after agency has highlighted the forming levels of democracy in your country i notice a few months ago you were highlighting the fact that your country is a democracy this year's report from here that freedom house spoke of the indian government's alarming departures from democratic norms under the prime ministers b j p it also warded you the largest score decline among the world's 25 largest democracies in its 2020 freedom index are you proud of that can you tell me any one fact on this the most criticized aspect of your decline has been the passage last
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december of the citizenship law which uses religion as a criterion for deciding which illegal migrants can be fast tracked for citizenship the measure favors members of all south asia's religions except islam which just happens to be your 2nd largest faith that's hardly a coincidence is it i will give dancer in number one if you are the only secular. all of the artists. and the particular genre of lawlessness is very much so it was incumbent on the i purpose to be the secular and the democratic caucus that gives shared with those who are religious liberty we are not selected and welcome yes. indeed all 6. bullis why does he stand secular un high commissioner for human rights doesn't agree with you he calls the law fundamentally discriminatory in nature and he should know shouldn't he deals
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with human rights abuses worldwide community mich. financially discriminatory in nature yes that muslims are what's included in their country that you can consider that it was you have given $500.00 muslims as a religion but you want to start over i love what i just thought of some and openly say they're just people see themselves or don't even consider that it why does your party why is it so brazen in attacking its perceived enemies and why does it tolerate so much hate speech we have your home minister ahmed shah referring to migrants as termites to be eradicated in order to pradesh the b j p's chief minister yogi and that's promised revenge against those who protested against the citizenship amendment act and said they should be fed bullets not biryani why are these people never rained in by your party or disciplined by your
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party and allowed to say these these things. again i would like to say if you go by the reports once the. biggest abuse is being used the words of it being used against the prime minister and they are saying that they're not. the last doctor orders have been frequently used openly or later nationally openly in the us openly on this to both nor no. on the contrary you know a lot of political agenda of the country to public t.v. would. be held by police and question or just was shown to a political one. and other journalists had to see you know dozens of high up and you put a sinister 100. journalists who says that you know to be
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a preventive why does our capital capital mishra for instance of the be j.p. in delhi he led a demonstration calling on people to shoot the protesters why was he allowed to do that knowing it is wrong yet nobody in the world through i can kind of a 2nd fact yes use the word though you must say to us what you wind up or illegally or one month he has used the word or i am saying is that what you did. you remove this illegal occupation otherwise we are your. thoughts and you are somebody might be legal there are a reward in front of your house and if you still didn't see it is it not. the book by police then you decide what's important to what is the shooting to achieve a bit dumb to terminate it in the aftermath of the february riots in which more
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than 50 people died and the most of the muslims in the aftermath there was one of the most telling episodes when the delhi high court heard petitions about the riots in the city and asked why the police had not filed cases against b j p p politicians who had advocated violence the presiding judge dr marandi da warned the delhi police of serious consequences for not investigating statements by b j p politicians he said i'm really appalled by the state of affairs of the delhi police the courts had earlier watch videos of for the j.p. leaders capital mishra and the faca abhay vama and pov ask them which the job described as hate mongering hate mongering how do you get away from that. i don't like to put it i think you were that ican one instance but she didn't say it's what was said by pop english. but she gave was in the context of a. but to quote of what he said you did just local to the creators of the country
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people said to them yes i agree that meant this type of slogan is what really should have been a friend and he stopped us but he had not used the word should then yes not the judge the judge called it hate mongering and you know what happened of course to the judge days later he receives a transfer or to at midnight to a completely different part of the country and the federal law minister says it was routine and agreed by the supreme court a routine transfer at midnight do you seriously expect anyone to believe this you managed to remove a judge who was asking questions about your politicians that's the sum of it isn't it i want to i want to before you and i make a point number one sunflower but i guess it is not done by government it is done by levy i'm of the course that it's 2nd thing how convenient how convenient that it
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was just after he had our so-called questions let me computers and then sat down for that was done right there to follow and i've died in question and also given the concern. then before it was done but it was not exactly what it if i didn't do what he should have been believe much every. i don't i'm saying it was done rather they have the full affluence in this is a political not going on in the short time that we have left dr to evade it i'd like to just talk about the recent battle between indian and chinese troops in the northern ludacris region once again this has raised questions about different versions coming from the b j p government where exactly did the fight take place between indian and chinese forces we know that some of the chinese forces died we also know that 20
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indian soldiers were killed where exactly did this fight take place specifically on whose side of the border. prime minister a little bit clear night or 2 but it will. not allow any of a host is under there and. that's not what i asked i asked whether the fight had taken place yet our light was no defense in the line up or. so light on military control is there there. and in between that so that it got me just off it which is a low lands so that in the understanding in that is the pacific defenses. who can come and what they will not you know. but the bottom one and. our troops are gonna be find out that head of their at elysee in that is ya try to find out it everybody so they have decided to force them back so west of the
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battle took place well on whose territory in the no man's land are you saying if it happened on here that chinese in the chinese site in the chinese medically going to alight oh yes this is where the battle took place with your forces yes we have 4 young forces were in chinese territory or in no man's land where were they. why is this so difficult why is it so difficult to tie down that you might get a good line of military and can be sure the several kilometers of polish devon and newman that people are fired and um you do not do any art you like to let me and you do not any don't believe i'm going to hold up a moment when our troops are truly their final that in that no man's land and all of their you know yet want something to be such that they asked him they didn't
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know that despite that instructor and then got him back and they were. so this all happened in the no man's land is that right is that what you're telling me it didn't happen in chinese territory and it didn't happen on indians territory the clear implication from all this fudging is that the chinese did cross into what you regard as indian territory but you won't admit that because you don't want to appear either weak for letting it happen or worse being asleep on the job and not reacting until it was too late which was it no it was very clear that the chinese troops were there the whole the shock and still is essentially there and they were there. the troops of the equally shoving your troops is exactly there as they were before and in that in which there is an agreement that nobody should come thereby to conquer. why not just say clearly the chinese
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violated your border or they didn't we had 2 different versions we have the prime minister saying no no one has intruded into our territory or taken over any post and we had the foreign minister who said the chinese side sought to erect a structure in go one valley on our side of the line of actual control on our side in other words 2 different versions from 2 leading figures in your government no there was no difference at all as far as the chinese in the lantus and some just saw was in twos and. they have actually a certain if you are over it early in 1062 years of your deity or not there you know what but now that the fight will be shown if their military vote but it will be so loud the outdated america. if you say that the i don't know what they're going to just you know what it. is you know it's athletic abilities i
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