tv Faith Matters Deutsche Welle July 5, 2020 12:02am-12:31am CEST
12:02 am
it's thursday evening and stayed at a district of the german city of s. and members of a local group called state. a walking the street says they have once a week for the past 2 years say here people from accounts amazement support diversity and. that's what it is there's something missing about the situation we don't want that here in state of was that scenes like this are not unique to us and similar groups have formed in many other german cities vigilantes who claim that maintaining law and order because the police no longer do. i the 1st time we met with founding members of the count in this moment in december
12:03 am
28th seen there was a clear sense of unease. they view the far right tendencies of this day youngs as a threat to the otherwise peaceful district. that oh you know that i'll give them a really loud and noisy and they turned up on mass all dressed in black on time. and then they sort of surrounded us took photos and made videos called out to us might all that noise. it felt really threatening that. many people find the state a youngster intimidating but that's in their face but postings they claim to be harmless they invite people to approach them so we did. because it's on can you tell us what you stand for the and you. can get it where you've
12:04 am
been at all of the recent protests will do if isn't an argument to say nothing of why don't you should beat him from speaking you would get lost or if you nick the son. of a little bit of the family. iraq was not enough we have nothing to say now go you know see recognizable faces covered in harm's way with your freezing goodbye. to. the man who tried to really an offer to buy shining his smartphone light into our camera is a figure familiar to us having a reasonable conversation is not his thing. whenever the a youngster turned out the counter-movement also demonstrates founded by a group of local residents it's now supported by members of unions political parties the local business community and churches. he he i'm speaking here today on behalf of the lutheran church because i believe it's crucial that the
12:05 am
church does not stay silent the daily young's claim there are vigilante groups marching for resident safety but i think they stir up fear and insecurity and they threaten the peace in our district and. i don't i want to hold a citizens meeting in their district all including the shayla young ones who are willing to talk with us. the church in which has to hand them as a whole and preaches each sunday it's called the church of peace and she considers the name her mission she believes that the far right group is dividing society with their marches. if you will for mention the fact is people here in stalest say they feel frightened media the stale young's numbers are increasing. they dress alike they wear black clothing and they march throughout history of course they don't say
12:06 am
much since i but there are presents that create so analysts and discovering were shifted on the ng stick and just just what this still a young stand for why they demonstrate is never expressed in public they behave as if they're out for an innocent stroll but their agenda is rooted in far right ideology their true intentions are revealed on the internet postings like these a typical of the group. xenophobia racist nationalistic. in reality they are the ones out of place in this peaceful district with its 17000 residents where the crime rate has been decreasing steadily for many years and still is i believe the sale is like a village within the city of s. and a lot of. the residents associate strongly with the district once it's lively and
12:07 am
very diverse but i my mom lots of people shop at the market held 3 times a week and they like to be outside in cafes or on the banks of the horror as people from all backgrounds and social classes see you hear all sorts of languages and that contributes greatly to the district's characters that. but the black clad figures you anybody different from them as a threat to their idea of a perfect gemini station we try again to engage them in conversation business off forget about it i want to cut. a lot of them one of them decides to say something that's right oprah's a want to ensure no one bothers our women and children. what do they have to fear here and steve was a young seal who told. me what about the stuff happening in other parts of s. and you think they're all safe and friendly districts you're living in a fantasy world. do you think steel is dangerous you know not when we're around
12:08 am
which you feel like i said we're pigeon fanciers. someone calls out to him he calls him coca he has a teardrop tattoo a widely recognized prison tattoo. and internet search turns up several hits including a television feature from 2016 this is one of them a guy from asm. i was 16 or 17 when i got out of prison i started working as a waiter at a strip bar. much of copus knife is being characterized by crime in. the movie that was convicted over and over and no fewer than 30 times for promoting prostitution that's also for violent crimes he spent a total of 17 years in prison things. this man wants to make the district safe. and why i'm here i'll tell you why. that's a wrong. question somebody else wants to talk but the others stop him before he
12:09 am
starts. this shit here is that we hear the words rapist and smash are. still around a typical market day no trace of the vigilantes here. and . this guy you say they have to patrol here to maintain security nonsensical utter rubbish but. they just want to show off like the right wing party that's all the guns they want to intimidate people interesting to me is a piece of shit there's no you know like crime rates or anything you would never hear that someone has been shot or anything like that so i think it's a very peaceful place to be or to live it. i want to excuse me do you have a minute do you know of a group called the sheila young ones who marched through town and says the evenings
12:10 am
. yes i've heard of them also seen them here all frightened and we wonder what's behind it what do they want to protect us from we feel safer if they weren't around i'll admit i'm afraid of them. but i did and it spread to wherever you go in every district they're all over the place and your new commission they come here from other districts to know they're brazen and the groups keep getting bigger and more threatening the door to. local residents have planned a public meeting in the church of peace if you want to kick it is. the role of the church as i see it for being is to create connections to promote peace in their district. to come into contact with the people and bring the old message of the church and the bible to life he's leaving to bring in jeff when i was growing up in the eighty's a popular slogan was make peace without weapons guns i think it's very relevant again now establishing this peace approaching one another not dividing the
12:11 am
community living together despite differing views living and letting live but also seeking a commonality and mutual acceptance accept he and he is an 80. 1 man with insight into far right vigilante groups like this still a youngster is sociologist and xander heisler of the university of applied sciences indecl doff. and i think it's something like a right wing mix is the. that a mixed scene means that the core grew out of a typically violent and right wing hooligan scene. and various structures that are not essentially political are mixed into that like martial arts practitioners bouncers bikers people who have similar criminal or criminal backgrounds who come together with organized far right extremists. wouldn't it is for that
12:12 am
reason that in extremism research we use the term far right mixed. with full force on the we're not. seen. this daily you are also part of a network they're closely connected to the self-styled brotherhood germany which originated in nearby dissolute. and is the acknowledged head of the group on the internet he's written about a day of retribution this facebook posting his since being deleted we come across videos taken in september 29th teen they show several still a youngster at an anti islam demonstration in mention that back organized by brotherhood germany if we want to will beat you to death they challenge. you. one of the clips shows me land attacking a counter-protest at a demonstration indecl dolfin nov 28th. he was arrested and
12:13 am
fined. this same rashmi land his regularly marched with the state for the past 18 months. the essen police department is concerned about the situation in. police chief frank rich to estimate cities had to deploy police more than 100 times to restrain members of the far right group of people who used the staler young aren't ordinary citizens here for at the core is a far right group that is loosely connected and to varying degrees supported by others outside of assonance. at the same time members of the us and group participate in so-called walks or organized by groups in other towns or you could put the state security services know about their contacts to far right extremists or we have course we want to gather as much information as possible so the police
12:14 am
presence at demonstrations is not just for keeping order they're also carefully monitoring what's going on and trying to determine what we have to watch out for in the future all of us will forgive to go into we pay a visit to hannah a 20 minute drive from s. and they stay young also made the line sympathises for demonstrations here in hand of the group calls itself bizarre to all concerned citizens account to demonstrate it shows us where the far right assemble she doesn't want to get too close she was attacked recently. after one of the much is organized by the so-called concerned citizens she witnessed the car of a county demonstrator being vandalized she filmed the incident on have. no. i mean. the phone was damaged in this attack she reported the incident to the police it's still under investigation. an internet search
12:15 am
reveals far right hastings by hand the vigilantes. that hear their opponents one ounce after 7 months of weekly marches in february 2020. the far right scene announced they would no longer be holding books in hanna . late summer 29002 spoke anti islam groups have gathered for a demonstration among them a several familiar faces men who march with the shade a young as well as members of for i feel hands brotherhood gemini everything awkward and of a man i ask you a quick question we recognize you from sheila why you're here today and you can no comment i was asking him and he said no comment why do you feel the need to be here he won't answer because the as we know you from y. here today. for
12:16 am
a walk that's all he's allowed to say. when . you hear what you just said leftist intimidation do you feel intimidated by the left. him 30 years of. whining speaking for him county give me an interview we don't give interviews here is a big thing for the brotherhood of friends i knew the brotherhood are not above it then how do you represent myself but you said what are your eva says. on social media he's much less reserved this says it's time we germans made more use of our right to self-defense. a security barrier separates the 275 right demonstrators from the counter demonstration.
12:17 am
and how we fought for human rights for decades everybody in the world has rights the right to lawsuits and it doesn't matter with these green or blue or black or goodness or double out our shots i'm angry and i'm furious and i could cry when i see what's happening in iraq. i never want to hear myself say i didn't know what was happening. somewhat by chance we saw something during the 2900 carnival when this truck appeared we took pictures with the phone later the carnival said they'd been deceived the truck had been registered by a family but in the procession it was unexpectedly carrying a young. band on the back they revealed their true face the german word for tic is used by the far right to describe people who support leftist and green politics this is clearly
12:18 am
incitement to violence. the threats are more concrete on the internet someone wrote knowledge is power and i know for instance where certain people live and work and what kind of car they drive so to make trouble this is. always dangerous when people with far right off of our terrio antidemocratic social services think they can take the law into their own hands and when they present themselves as defenders of the german people as specially against so-called enemies of the people all mine and the folks find of. danger lives and it's. far right displays of our actual use of violence. on. the strong arm displays continue fishtail a young stem is straight that the streets apparently belong to them many residents
12:19 am
are started avoiding the commercials and on thursday evenings. instead hundreds of tendin event in the lutheran church with esther the ship around the survivor of the nazi concentration camp auschwitz. for months we've been witnessing far right thinking and discriminatory behavior here inch to haleigh. it makes many of us saying agree. who many if not people like musea aster who know from your own suffering where fascism and racism lead could talk about the more compellingly and warning against the. darfur. we stood in line and waited for a number to be tattooed on our left arm. yet for i received the number 4 rounds of 948. names were
12:20 am
disposed of we were merely numbers who are don't know. that this division around there reads from the book she wrote about her experiences in the nazi era in the 1930 s. it was hitler's so-called brown shirts that took over the streets on the pretext of establishing law and order s to better run and the self-styled vigilante committees today are a grim reminder of those times. we were in german occupied poland. with that post as the support diversity group also draws parallels between hitler's thugs and the need far right. one should never lose sight of what could happen again at any time but i wouldn't say we're afraid we go out and defend our position we refuse to be intimidated it's enjoy interested. they want to prevent the far right turning violent as happened in
12:21 am
the 1930 s. the horrors of the nazi regime must never be repeated. with that in mind the churches have organized ecumenical prendes for peace. we see that these can't be taken for granted we want to take action of them of course for us christians prayer is also taking action but we want to do our part so that people in our district can live together in peace. the christians here i didn't it's not the ethnic minorities all the migrants that threaten the peace in germany it's groups like this still a young smith this street marches they exclude people spread hate and threaten anybody who thinks differently. oh yeah sure lism is not an alternative. dividing people into separate groups is no
12:22 am
solution. because. anyone who thinks that way is a victim of demagogues who are really interested in their own power and. we are indeed visible we're all different but we're all one. we're sisters and brothers and as humans we are what i have. purchased and see i have a history of tolerance in the said rice this was what was known as a confessing congregation one the to payors the nazis. this is a given right isn't there yes it's a tradition in this parish in the nazi era our parish stood on the side of the confessing church though there was certainly a lot of argument and discussions but they did take the stand before. an unambiguous position but also a willingness to engage in dialogue they're placing great hopes on the citizens' meeting held in the church of peace the purpose is to discuss the fears aroused by
12:23 am
far right marches through the district to the surprise of many people members of the far right group also turn up will dial up be possible. i'm impressed and very happy that so many people have come. i don't think it will get anywhere the way we've been going this is the welcome to all of you who've joined tonight's meeting there is enough room here for every view. the knife the discussion last 3 hours the meeting took place shortly before the cave at 19 lock down the prevailing view is a youngster make people uncomfortable that they themselves feel unjustly treated we're just walking around just taking a stroll i was. so everyone in this room is talking about the steel youngs but none of you have had the guts to talk to us or to discuss thing was it but did they really want to talk
12:24 am
a brief flashback last week cheaply whistles what kind of statement was that comment. it was this very man we tried to speak with months ago for us what does 1st class cream. don't you speak my language no comment there are no comment thank you for the why you assembling here doesn't matter what we give up then why you demonstrating or not demonstrating. we try again to talk to them at the meeting in the church without the camera but they didn't say anything. the meeting gets out of hand the suggestion is made that the church organize a follow up on this 1st attempt to engage with the stay young has not gone so well . know. should be a different issue when a month it's difficult when people don't follow the rules of discussion. that was
12:25 am
obviously the case here when people were booed and people spoke in generalizations it t.v. course of water that made things stressful on me of course the rest obviously mapped about there but the suggestion at the end that we meet again perhaps in a smaller constellation is a good start to me over a bit and i hope it will happen we'll see it i think it was a small but positive results from the seeming it's line is a good distance obs finished. but past a miles of wind may be too optimistic after the meeting the weekly strollers continue and no one's willing to talk. this was one of the last evening's demonstrations were permitted before the cave in 1000 looked down with the older you know. not many counter-protest as a present maybe people so the issue had been resolved to me as a sort of mission the sewage that i find it distressing that is daily youngster
12:26 am
still a presence in the district. if you know guns and it makes me happy that so many people are willing to take a stand to meet and talk about the problems before the moon or to eden but i also see that it's difficult to deescalate the situation does it what's on the tides would be if i have the impression that the battle lines have been drawn problems if one can often see how to vote or don't and i don't see any practical way of deescalating heinberg be deployed it's difficult at the moment and it's really a big issue so it's like. that then the lockdown prevents public gatherings this is where the far right great peugeot assembles at the end of march there's no sign of them it's quiet in the district. past a muzzle hunts ministry is severely hampered by the lockdown she's also troubled by the fact that far right groups in germany a spreading conspiracy theories about covert 19 on the internet but she's
12:27 am
encouraged by the interfaith response. it's a movie to see a movie and it's very encouraging to feel that we're not alone in our mission also there's a lot of support from other districts other churches and communities at the mine shaft as a reason so we work closely with the catholic church and leave us off the peg mostly mission and the 2 muslim communities here are also very interested in seeing peaceful coexistence continue. our church is also active in other cities that's very encouraging and empowering does this i'm fussy a boutique in this auction. but the fear remains that when they look down is eased the still a young swede back on the streets making their presence felt once again. something
12:28 am
12:29 am
energy and you're romantics. just going to live. on a bike along the river elbe nicole furley can play miking is becoming more and more popular especially for foreign come naturally i'm really excited about today's trip along the algorithm for biking along one of the most varied paths in europe. heres the challenge to discover nature and culture using muscle power changes. 60 minutes on t.w. . we know this is a scary time for us the coronavirus is changing the world changing a lot so please take care of yourself keep good distance wash your hands. if you
12:30 am
can stay at how we deal with you for here for we are working tirelessly to keep you informed on all of our platforms we're all in this together on together and we're making friends. stay safe everybody stays steady said stay safe the priest and stay safe. if. this trial is a real hit with tourists in lisbon that will whisk you along in the style to trip through the portuguese capitals historic center. welcome to your remarks and
28 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on