this is deja vu news live from berlin european leaders tried to bridge deep divisions over our carona recovery plan there convene in the convening for an e.u. summit at this hour in brussels where there's a divide over a 750000000000 euro package to help economies hard hit by the pandemic we'll go live to our correspondent. also coming up have russian hackers from stealing corona vaccine research the us for it and canada accused russian based groups of targeting

labs working on a covert vaccine. and also look at how the president bashar al assad of syria has held on to power for 20 years now in spite of a civil war and a shattered economy is grip on power is a firm as ever. i'm brian thomas good to have you with us today the e.u. is at a crossroads with member states looking for leadership and cash to bolster economies that have been hard hit by the coated pandemic and lockdowns chesser macca will be chairing talks in brussels that are bringing that's bringing leaders face to face for the 1st time in months will be struggling to persuade the blocs richer nations . to issue direct grants to countries like italy spain and portugal to help them

overcome the worst of the pandemic but member states like austria and the netherlands want to see tightly controlled loans instead. while the 750000000000 euro rescue package will be top of the agenda during the summit here is more on what's up for negotiation the recovery plan to help e.u. economies hit by the pandemic is highly controversial and expensive it would boost the e.u. budget for next year until 2024 in the form of grants worth $500000000000.00 euros and loans to the tune of $250000000000.00 euros but there are differences over how the recovery money would be distributed the commission wants a $300000000000.00 euro chunk of it to go to italy and spain the countries hardest hit by the coronavirus pandemic over all the cash strapped southern european

countries are calling for solidarity in the form of grants that do not need repayment while the wealthier and more frugal northern countries favor loans. and barbara v's all is covering the summit for us as than european countries and the north the southern european countries say we are in dire straits we do need help we need money from you and we need it in the form of grants because we can't burden ourselves further with debt and we don't want strings tied to these grants because we have to decide how we best spend this money in the us however the so-called frugal for. many even call the sort of countries who was stingy the stingy 4 and they say we don't like communal debt in the 1st place if we have to agree to it all we want to do is give loans to the southern countries money they have to pay back plus we even more or less total control about

it and if we in the end should have to agree to grants then really really want even our parliament have to be able to decide on how this money is being spent and that is something that is hard to bridge at the core of this argument are the nobleman's the netherlands have the reputation for being particularly tight with money and the question here is how can you split the bill after a pandemic will this finally be the trigger going dutch on the money will this be the trigger to implode the european union. in the last days they have all been beating a path to michael to store 1st came the italian prime minister then his spanish counterpart. and finally the portuguese it was a concerted lobby effort to convince the dutchman to loosen his purse strings but so far no luck. in order to have it all begins to move in our direction and

it's already looking better. the netherlands are the 5th largest economy in the european union big in trade in exports the wealthy country where people are mostly happy back sharing this wealth is not their cup of tea when going out with friends they often prefer to go dutch and split the bill and that's what they expect from their government to some kind of regulations because it's a lot of money and i'm not doing it for my money but. yeah it's it's not i think it's necessary to have something that you just can't if you just give out money people are just going to spend it like oh yeah well we just got the money so let's just do whatever the question with the europe should screw free money at the economic fire is it really really moves that people even the popular comedian are you luba picked up on this. so i want to extinguish your fire but i don't want to take over your mortgage. i think partly some some of it has to do with also

with being greedy i was sorry to say that about that but we have that tendency to like. the more you have the more it makes you want to keep it all to yourself socialist politician leon plume and however things the dutch government is being embarrassingly tight everyone wants to work in their own best interest and they stand for what's important to the netherlands however the message is not to the audience you are not doing what you should do the message should be we are all in solidarity we need to come out of this crisis together. that's also what stefano from italy hopes for he enjoys living partying and working with dutch people but for the little difference the relationship that the reason between people and their money is here he said. own way of dealing with money and i mean of course i've been

dealing with practical day. and yeah i can see that they are carrying. a sharp a piece for the future of. the euro is going to be the friend so the big question is whether the deduction prepared to share the european bill after the corona crisis. barbara as we saw in your report there the differences over money inside the e.u. goes so deep that the italian prime minister even thinks this summit could decide the future of the e.u. are the stakes really that are. the stakes are indeed extremely high brian because what this means is that the southern countries if they don't get help and get help quickly they could really fall off the economic cliff edge and that means that the single market of the european union would sort of really drift apart the countries

would sort of go do their own thing and this house would be just sort of floating away and that would be politically disastrous so the bridges are very difficult to build and we heard this from the german chancellor angela merkel who warrant that is going to be very hard work and that the positions here are still very far apart it is not easy to get countries to make these concessions because there is more on a sort of cultural wall going on between the sides and then we have further complications looking at the eastern european countries because of rule of law there and so there are so many vetoes and president across the he when he arrived he talked about having having all the sides to just pushing them to compromise and to sort of step up towards the common good about whether that will happen at this summit there's some of service you who say it's rather doubtful ok

culture wars bridges that need to be built what could a compromise look like barbara. the complicated thing at these summits is that in the end everybody has to go home to their own voters and parliament and say i won i brought this huge big wonderful goodie so you have to somehow distribute chocolates to everybody more substantial one and less than one to other countries but everybody has to have something now you have $27.00 squabbling member states it's in like in a really dysfunctional family and they have to somehow bring home the bacon and it is extremely complicated to divide up the money and the funds so and the and the rules and regulations going with them so that in the end everybody can say i have won this i forge hard for our good but i have won this and it's the national good not the european good that rules this ok there's a tough act to put together we'll see if that's possible over the next few days

probably more from barbara from brussels as well thanks very much barbara. well no other key player here is the e.c.b. and what about the city when it comes to recovery plans the you in the european central bank are they on the right track when it comes to getting the continent through the crisis that's a question our business reporter rob was put to some of the world's leading economists during and online panel discussion hosted by the world economic forum. what do you have a commitment to a common fiscal response with the european recovery fund now they're going to walk you about it on friday or saturday doubtful we'll get a decision at 5 minutes past midnight by st deprived politicians as we always do but i think we will get. eventually a commitment to a common fiscal program and that's why i call for europe's stability over the medium term the problem of course is that the scale is still relatively limited.

and that there is a great deal of dependence on the national government still leading in terms of fiscal policy but i think we're going in the right direction we are very much impressed with the european union's comments nance saw climate change and he said this and then it also starts great opportunity to educate the public and to educate firms in energy markets underneath to do something of an exchange front and i think that's where the european me union is taking to me including you know he's actually on their side we understand it must be really that this is their historical moment even though small you know the fact that we want to avoid at any costs a repeat of the greek crisis is something that is major for europe the problem or at least be issued on to some to now you bob to mystic is you we going to have to

sustain efforts for years to come this is the easy part to take the insurance policy and say we're going to do whatever it takes you know come the c b we're going to do whatever it takes from the government that's the easy part. let's get you up to date now on some of the other stories making the news this hour brazil's health ministry has recorded more than 2000000 coronavirus cases is another grim milestone for the country which has averaged 1000 daily deaths from cope with since may present higher balsa naro playing down the dangers of the virus and has said he'll void measures that could stall the economy. british airways is retiring its entire boeing 747 fleet as a struggles to deal with the sharp downturn in pandemic related travel v.a. has wanted to phase out its 31 jumbos by 2024 it's the latest in a string of airlines that have said goodbye to a plane that's dominated air travel for 50 years. well the u.s. the u.k.

and canada are accusing russian agents of carrying out cyber attacks to steal information on potential covert vaccines 3 nations warned scientists and pharmaceutical companies to be on the alert they say the cyber attacks use custom now where to target coronavirus research centers russia denies the accusation. as the pandemic surges across the globe the search for a covert 1000 vaccine has been an international effort to protect global health this common goal has been undercut by allegations accusing russia of trying to steal information from vaccine research as in the u.k. the u.s. and canada believe this is economic espionage or they're trying to promote it to games private information intellectual property from news from these organised lucian's that are engaged in coronavirus research and presumably use it to advance their own research efforts the alleged culprit is a familiar fellow a.t.p.

29 or a cozy bear a group associated with russian intelligence also blamed for interference in the u.s. election 4 years ago the intelligence community believes that cozy bearer is just an agency of the russian and they've been around for a long time. and 3rd time through 2014 they were believed to be behind the 2016 attacks against the democratic national committee as well as other attacks against countries around the world the coordinated warning across continents seems designed to add weight to the announcement and prompt other potential targets to protect themselves a global bid to combat not only across continental security breach but a virus that poses a major threat to humanity across the globe. it's to syria now where president bashar al assad is marking 20 years in power for the entry elections will take place sunday but like all previous elections no real oppositions permitted so despite a civil war that's lasted 9 years now assad looks set to stay on our. well

well if you got you. into july the 17th 2008 just 34 years old to bash our scientists sworn in as president following the sudden death of his father. he quickly finds his feet meeting the great and the good earth to syria this is. often accompanied by his british born wife asma. from the start of his presidency as search bill close ties with both russia and iran strategic relations that will prove crucial to retaining power . in march 20th 11 antigovernment protests across much of the arab world known as the arab spring spread to syria. in the southern city of deraa demonstrators began taking

to the streets after the arrest and torture of a group of teenagers protest grew while as sands military responded with greater force. as fallon's escalated the country descended into a brutal civil war. we will win without a doubt against this conspiracy and they are now reaching the final stages of their conspiracy. attempts by the international community to force asaad to step down failed. and so to moves to broker a peace deal. by 2013 the un said the number of refugees fleeing syria had reached a 1000000 this was a humanitarian crisis then the regime was accused of carrying out a chemical attack near the capital damascus it took another such attack in 2017 for

the u. s. to take action claiming a sense military. tonight i ordered it targeted new jersey. already if you were in syria where the chemical. was logged. but despite the reprisal asset has continued his war with the help of russian airpower and iranian forces the syrian government controls most of the country. a country that lies in tatters is led by a man who looks like he will never surrender power. let's bring in christine helberg for more on this story she's an expert on syria and us politics good morning to you kristen a 2 decades on how stable today is the political coalition that guarantees assad's

hold on power. well actually quite right at the beginning of his power everybody was hoping for reforms and i think this was the 1st misunderstanding that bashar al assad never came to power to reform the country to make it a democracy or to modernize the country so why is he still there i mean this question very important because you have to look at the inner structure of this regime this regime has replaced the state which means that all the institutions be the parliament the judiciary the administration the military all of these state institutions serve the preservation of power of assad there is not a ton of power center in the country with for example the military like in egypt so this is nothing can get dangerous for us how to itself and until now as has power is built on loyalty so he in forces loyalty by means of fear so this is why he needs the intelligence operators which is very important to us power and he creates

loyalty by means of client a list which is why he needs these wealthy businessmen the capitalists cronies that are close to him so these are the 2 pillars inside the country the businessman the private company is that loyal to him and the intelligence apparatus that makes it very stable plus obviously he had the foreign support to win the war militarily with the help of russia and iran relist pick up on that syria has made huge gains against islamic state with russian backing of course over the past few years how strong is central government control over most of the country now there are pockets that aren't controlled by syria. that's true i mean it's especially the north western province of it live that is still held by the opponents of us or which are controlled or dominated by an islamist faction a jihad effect and high end and it's the northeastern part that is controlled by kurdish forces and is governed in a quite autonomous way but assad is very decided to regain control there and he has

the support of his lee of iran and russia to do so he will do this in the north east by negotiations who do this in the northwest and that by military force we've seen this before but i think what is very important that he's really not facing a sensitive moment because the country is facing a major economic crisis the syrian pound is in the interest for so and what is important here is that he won the war militarily you can say this that the work of the war is decided you know he won the war militarily but as had cannot win the peace because he doesn't have the money to do so he cannot rely on russia and iran because they don't have the financial means to rebuild syria and he has to serve the people that keep him in power which are local militias which are business men and which other foreign powers they consider syria a place to exploit for their own interests so this is not a recipe for peace this is not a recipe for reconciliation reconstruction and the corruption has reached

a level of math you know like math yes dial that is even annoying the russia or the russians as his main backers christine thanks so much for your insights this morning kristen helberg for us. this is news live from berlin still to come on our show this picture as found in germany's wax wars is the base for a massive police manhunt aided by aircraft and search dogs these officers are looking for a man who disarmed 4 officers and disappeared with their weapons into the south german wilderness. but 1st a former senior executive at german payments processor wire card has confessed to his role in the company's multibillion euro fraud that's according to lawyers who say the executive was c.e.o. of card systems middle east workers largest subsidiary he was arrested in munich last week card systems played a key role in the wire card scandal which put it near $2000000000.00 hole as balance sheet. filed for insolvency last month. our

financial correspondent ali barss following this for us from frankfurt today due to what has the man in question we can't release his name for for legal reasons exactly confessed we don't know that we don't know the details of what crime what acts he has actually a calling himself culpable of but it sounds as if he's talking to his lawyer and to the authorities could be maybe something like a crown witness and help the process along traditionally we don't know that crown witness part yet though but it's an important development ok we also have a report on a former board member this is a very dramatic story who while still being on the run is now apparently willing to talk about his role in this scandal as well. yeah the former number 2 the wire card chief operating officer yanmar sialic he disappeared and said simply off the board

but in the messenger text in a service called telegram he says he is not denying the accusations against him someone has to be at fault and i'm the obvious choice important words important revelations but still no one knows where ok we have to leave it there really bars following the story for us today in frankfurt. while police have been combing a mountainous region in southern germany for an armed fugitive whose of ated capture for about 5 days now authorities were alerted to a suspicious person living in someone else's forest the suspect then disarmed the 4 police officers who want to talk to him and then ran off into the woods with their weapons open now in germany's black forest population 4800 known for its picturesque streets battling brooks and mountain views and now this behind me are dozens of police vans with scores of heavily armed officers there's

also sniffer dogs and helicopters there hunting a local man they say disarmed 4 police officers then made off with their weapons and disappeared into the woods around here police are calling eve roush dangerous and a weapons fanatic authorities here close schools the day after he fled and asked people to stay indoors open now as the mayor says the police presence is appropriate even if some residents think rausch is harmless. you know the fact is his prior convictions are relevant it's also a fact that he now committed a serious crime. well that makes him a threat to people here. we have quite a few scared residents public officials and the police have to make them the priority. we can't leave them on their own with their fears.

for many here even though she isn't only a fugitive on the run he's also a neighbor who slipped through society's cracks put his carpentry skills to use at this popular restaurant helping the owners with repairing renovation. who runs the business with his wife saw 2 days before he fled he describes a complicated man who's had difficulty fitting him. nice friendly courteous helpful but always a little bit strange when it came to weapons knives and those sorts of things but i never got the sense he would use a weapon against someone in the context. in another context you see a man in army fatigues and an axe on his belt that might be scary but not in the context i know him. i think snitched. around town and online there's sympathy for and an ease with the prolonged police presence there's also

recognition that he needs to answer for his alleged wrongdoing as police keep searching for him some told us they fear things can only end badly police and those who know him say even is most at home here in the thick wilderness of the black forest authorities say they have the resources and the patience to keep on searching for him but so far they haven't turned up anything yet. now of our top story at this hour. german jazz are all america was sharing a new summit in brussels in that originate bridging the differences over a covered plot the member states are deeply divided over the conditions for the 750000000000 euro for. this is deja vu news live from berlin and i'm brian thomas where the entire team thanks so much for.

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