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with the biggest composer of all time i can't even begin to imagine a world class horn player serial willis on a musical journey of discovery. world without beethoven starts september 16th on g.w. . it has happened so many times in the u.s. police seemingly without provocation shooting a black man on sunday in wisconsin it happened to 29 year old jacob blake his 3 little boys so everything 1st before the video of the shooting went viral protesters and police in wisconsin have clashed ever since as for jacob blake he remains in intensive care and is reportedly paralyzed from the waist down his father saying he doesn't know if his son will ever walk again i bring golf in berlin this is the day.
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i map a message i don't have a message and all of this is insight that to treat a body like that. not get the job done i don't know that they should have dealt with a 100 percent there more than not so it's back like me but i mean black kids . are terrified. it's now fashionable to say that america is racist that is a lie america is not a racist country. clamoring for from your not. ok with that if you cut. your throat out
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a book that it's almost like this election is shaping up to be church work school versus writing looting and vandalism i'm the only thing standing between the american dream and total anarchy madness and chaos. also coming up her name is taken off scot she campaigned to become the next president. but she says president lukashenko and a rigged election stood in her way. and people have changed and i don't know what's going on to happen and then there is days. i know what's happened in the nearest future. people. to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with an african american man and america's relationship with the police both paralyzed
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today the father of 29 year old jacob blake said he doesn't know if his son will ever walk again blake is reportedly paralyzed from the waist down and remains in intensive care at a hospital in the u.s. state of wisconsin on sunday police responded to a domestic disturbance call it was then that an officer shot blake in the back at close range as blake opened the door of an s.u.v. his 3 sons were inside a video of the shooting was circulated quickly on social media since sunday there have been protests in violent clashes with police and all too familiar series of events in america being repeated over and over again. it began as the mournful cry for help of a community suffering under the weight of injustice. the design goes through so did the tension some protesters in the police police
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fired tear gas in response. shots rang out on the 2nd night of protests in wisconsin college were torched buildings by and the family of jacob blake who shooting brought them all here treated for peace. we appreciate their support. but from his mother and from our from is my brother his father well the courage of people to protest peacefully not to be destructive we want justice and we want proper justice this is why witnesses say his nephew was trying to defuse a neighborhood dispute when police shot him in the back 7 times as his children watched. while. 29 year old jacob blake has sustained life changing injuries his community is also heart we are scared
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and we're. like men but i mean but kids we are terrified you don't know you have no idea you have no idea how they're out that they left the house. systemically says when police accountability are at the forefront of the black life matters movement despite the news reporter stephanie simon says many of the officers in wisconsin where we ring new id are insignia. any idea new state trooper. county police city police federal police. and other as the curfew crowd of protesters who run the court types they know but their message and their movement doesn't seem to be going anywhere soon they. are going to go now to our correspondent stefan simons he is in commercial wisconsin and good afternoon to use stefan we understand that more of the national
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guard is being called in to wisconsin to control the protests what's the situation like there right now. that's it right there will be more national guard coming into town here because yesterday the national guard troops who work but which were employed here didn't do really much of a difference here and so did not local police and what i thought and think is federal law enforcement troops the curfew yesterday was not enforced whatsoever so that explains to some degree the looting the torching all for buildings and cars galore last night what happens right now right here this in the background you see all this media here this is local media this is national media this is international media and those cameras are all pointed in the one direction this is the legal team there behind. you can't see it really what this is the legal team of mr jake up lake and with the 1st press conference of sorts today saying that mr
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blake indeed will as it looks like not be able to walk again will be paralyzed down from the hip or from the waist. doctors as we heard earlier today said that they are not really sure of this is a permanent condition or not and of course the family hopes that it is not and mr blake probably will hope so too and everybody else but at the moment he can only show things are fairly calm police is hardly ever seen a national 2 guards are sparsely here deployed around the building here to my left and that it's on my right and that is the courthouse building here where those clashes happened yesterday and the night before and so for today let's see what happens tonight it's always a different game as soon as darkness falls of the town here you know that's true when the sun goes down. the police say that they were responding to a domestic disturbance call on sunday when this began do we have any further
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information about about that and about why police shot blake i mean in the video that we've all seen it looks like it was an unprovoked shooting. yeah absolutely right the video and of course that's also the position of the defense team in the back is speaks for itself no questions asked. in their mind and their position is that this was unprovoked and of course entirely a disproportional use 047 shots in the back of a. black person who has a black man who has a on a t. shirt and trunk so hard to understand however the district attorney here wants and asked the public to actually let's name the cops the law enforcement agencies here and the investigative bodies some slack give them 30 days to really get their head or at around they had surrounded what happened investigate this early 'd and then their findings will be made public however 30 days is
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a long time we have seen this 3 months ago on the day after george floyd was murdered by a police officer in minneapolis people here do not want to give this time for an investigation they are frustrated they are angry they are hurt hurt hurt hurt that after 3 months something like this happens here after 3 months after george floyd can osha happens they of course didn't expect this to happen to their town old town in america expects this kind of thing to happen but it does happen and that is the problem for most people here. our correspondent is defines iman's international wisconsin with the latest on yet another police and african-american tragedy in the u.s. stefan thank you. as calls for police reform in the u.s. continue some are asking what can be done to prevent police and the public from
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locking horns to begin with consider when police pull over a driver in the u.s. it is standard for police officers to ask the driver of a car for their license and registration what happens next can be a matter of life and death but it doesn't have to be that way take a look at this this is the not reaching pal it's a plastic sleeve that holds a driver's license insurance and registration card clipped onto the driver's side air vent it was created by mother turned activist jackie carter she says to keep black drivers safe as they provide the documents that the police ask of them or police not to be able to speak with the not reaching paunch inventor jackie carter she is a former court reporter she founded the alliance for safe traffic stuff she joins us tonight from alexandria virginia ms carter it's good to have you on the day you
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know you're a mother with a son and i understand your son served as an army medic in afghanistan and yet i've read that you're more worried about your son getting pulled over by a police officer in the u.s. absolutely and 1st of all thank you for having me on your shell unfortunately under the circumstances yes i am i am more worried with my son in the united states on any given day or night traveling in a vehicle and being pulled over because we've seen that just trap traveling and driving a road in pets in the united states could end up being a bagel traffic stop. i understand when you were putting together the idea for the not reaching pal you spoke with many police officers and the issue of drivers reaching for these documents you see it kept coming up tell me
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a little bit about that sure when you know the fatal traffic stop a philanderer castiel occurred on july 6th of 2016 that's what really ignited my spark for trying to create a solution knowing that it wouldn't be the solution but something so the 1st thing i did was contact law enforcement my local law enforcement in pennsylvania and i started asking the simple question what is it that happens during a traffic stop that makes you nervous or escalates the stop and every officer say the reaching and the movement so it just makes sense to create something that would eliminate the reaching in a movement that makes them nervous during a traffic stop and that's where we came up with not reaching not even realizing that 2 years later i found out that the last words phalange ok still said on this earth was i wasn't reaching i wasn't reaching we were thinking about this
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story earlier today and asking ourselves what's in situation in other countries because police pull people you know on the streets and in every country but it seems like in the united states these police stops they can become deadly very quickly is it because america has a love affair with guns or is it because of america's racial reality. i think it's both i think we have not moved or progressed as far as we like to think in the united states when it comes to race relations and social justice and the fact that you know guns are so prevalent and the training is really a major issue when it comes to the police learning how to deescalate is a key issue in all of these situations. is who shot and killed philander had just had incident
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a few weeks prior it wasn't to that extent but we have to rethink the way that an officer approaches a vehicle and what occurs during the approach of their vehicle and i'd like to think that we should start to talk about proactive compliance i think there will be the 2 buzz words that we should start to talk about because we have to find ways to be called compliant prior to and not after so that we don't continue to have situations where we're coming back saying what should we have done you know. brings me to the next question. you just get your thoughts on what we're seeing in wisconsin in this shooting of jacob blake. well we're seeing once again and what we still don't know what led up to the the shooting which still is not an excuse because there is no excuse for putting 7 bullets and 7 bullets with the same amount that philander casteel had in his body when he was
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murdered there's no no excuse for that but with proactive compliance we also now have to teach not only the motorists but also the police officers how to maintain a deescalated situation so with what's going on with jacob blake it's any time any tell us a i think i heard a little bit where they say that you know they never expected that to happen in wisconsin that will happen anywhere and everywhere until we start making making proactive compliance. the thing that needs to occur doing a traffic stop jackie guarded the inventor of the not reaching. we appreciate your time and your insights and your efforts thank you very much i appreciate it thank you well still to come on the day you catch cold at night jeanne once recover and then you're in the clear right where doctors now say that really infections are
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a reality. the 2nd week of march she had a 1st infection the 2nd case was exactly 3 months later with exactly the same symptoms. delarue says exiled opposition leader. scullion says a peaceful revolution is underway as huge anti-government protests continue over that disputed presidential election in the country 16 days ago the demonstrations posed the biggest challenge yet to president alexander lukashenko 26 years in power denouncing the protesters as rats the president has been defiant appearing on television in body armor and carrying a coalition to cop a violent crackdown it will have consequences the european union is preparing to impose sanctions and has condemned the government for detaining some 7000 protesters in just the past 2 weeks. the european union is also refusing to
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recognize the results of the presidential vote and that stance is being praised by exiled opposition leader. she fled bella ruse for lithuania after the election correspondent constantini he met with her in buildings said lot of the kind of scale. what do you think is going to happen in the coming days weeks and delegates we've seen massive demonstrations especially in minsk but not only as well we've seen alexander lukashenko being filmed by his press at this with a machine gun so he's showing that he's not going to leave. was going to happen i'm afraid it's going to be real violence. i have seen this in their own continent comment because it's awful but. you know our people have changed and i don't know what's going on to happen in their eyes days but i
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know what's real happen in the nearest future. people will not step away they walk up and they want you. there rose and. a person who has separate east and stalker some people will not forgive him people known for that anything about a situation that has happened after their actions at the same time the correlation council of the bill russian opposition as well as you you say that in the next coming hopefully free and fair elections anyone can take part so does that mean mr lukashenko. it's on up to him we are free country so are i mean any person would be able to participate in this elections. do you expect the european union are you satisfied 1st or are you satisfied with the support that the european union and germany including have given to
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to the bill russian people and to you for sure we feel great support from or all the countries and. this of many countries. contacted me and showed their support for our people are they inspired of our people and i am sure they. do their best to. ignite support to our people. what do you think the e.u. international community could do more to help people. you know it's up to every country and i had to say that we are. we appreciate any. have they can show by that it's up to them how they can tell those thank you very much thank you. that was the bill rusin opposition leader so scalia
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speaking with the w.'s constantine. well millions of people around the world have had the corona virus and recovered we also know that millions more probably have the virus and not even known it but does exposure to cover $1000.00 does it make us immune there's now mounting evidence that being infected with the coronavirus does not prevent a re infection in hong kong a 33 year old man contracted the virus in april and recovered when he returned from a trip to spain in august he tested positive again doctors say it's the 1st documented case of reinfection who boy some people are asking still be immune to the virus forever after they recover there wasn't a clear answer before but now it's very clear after your 1st infection that they'll always be a chance you'll get infected again or you can commune with scientists today
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reported cases of patients in the netherlands and belgium catching coded 19 a 2nd time but the world health organization is urging calm here saying really infections are not likely to happen too often am caught other important thing to know if the numbers are very very small so this is run documented case. of a $23000000.00 atlanta probably documented cases but it seems to be not a regular event we would have saved many more cases. well my next guest tonight is a familiar face to our viewers he's a trusted voice in all questions concerning the corona virus pandemic dr john campbell joins me tonight from carlisle england dr campbell it's good to see you again. how worried should we be about reinfection i mean i was thinking today we catch the common cold through a virus many times in our lives. we do but the common cold virus changes
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very quickly and there's various forms of it and there's a rapid mutation rate in that particular form of virus now what these studies have done is that only quickly prove that someone can have corona virus infection with coverage 90 and get it a 2nd time and we have conclusive proof that this has happened 3 times out of 23 to 24000000 cases so i really think we have to keep this in perspective now this isn't really i'm surprised isn't really surprising without anecdotal cases of people being reinfected before all but the difference is these 1st 3 cases that we have the one in hong kong as you say the one in the netherlands in the one in belgium these have been officially confirmed by phylogenetic analysis the scientists have looked at the genetics of the virus and have known that the virus the person was infected the 1st time is a different genetic strain to the virus they've been infected with the 2nd time so we know that this happens but we have to bear in mind that we also know that corona
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virus does in juice and the muni and logic are reaction we know it induces surface acting antibodies we know it in juices in most people the immunoglobulin antibodies in the blood of the house most importantly of all we also know that in juices a t. cell response which is much more likely to be long lived so i think it's very much a time to keep this in perspective we are talking about 3 cases now i do expect there to be more documented cases but we have to bear in mind we've had a high index of suspicion of this besom time now we've been looking out for this and a lot of people have been tested and retested and yet these are only the 1st 3 definitive cases that have been confirmed by the microbiologists and vive ologists dr campbell what does this reinfection what does it mean if anything for the efficacy of a vaccine. well if people were to be really infected regularly then that means they would not have
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a sustained immunological response so they could catch the virus the immune system would basically forget how to recognise that virus and then they would recapture it and of course all of vaccine does is imitate the natural infection so if people were to get reinfected because the immunity faded then people could be vaccinated and then within a few months all who knows how long 34 months or 6 months or so then they could be reinfected again if the immune response was not long lived but at the moment i think the evidence suggesting that the immune response is long lived is much more than these individual cases because we don't know the full details of these cases yet the hong kong case for example is all rather strange it's only circulating on social media at the moment it's not peer reviewed paper as yet i expect it to be but it's just strange that it hasn't even been formally released in preprinted yet the world's press is talking about this because understand this because the implications are very significant and of immunity was to fade the not means herd
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immunity wouldn't be able to be generated as well and we could be stuck with this virus reinfecting people for a long long time but i think the balance of evidence at the moment is saying that they will be immunity and we're ready seeing some of the epidemiological benefits of herd immunity in some parts of the world such as new york where the level of herd immunity combined with the control measures the hand-washing the distancing the mask wearing are combining to reduce the amount of infections that we're seeing started them i've got about 30 seconds let me ask you could the vaccine for corona virus be like the flu vaccine the flu shot that we have to get it every year about 30 seconds. yeah i suspect not because there's many different sorts of flu viruses but there's only one sort of corona virus and corona virus convict 19 so i strongly suspect that is not the case i remain optimistic about the vaccine had always optimistic dr john campbell it's always been speaking with you dr campbell thank you. thank you. well the day is almost done the conversation continues online join
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is. from. an arrest in hopelessness in the west after the shooting of another black man by police the father of victim jacob blake says his son is paralyzed after being shot multiple times in the back in view of his 3 children this latest incident setting off protests not just for the state of wisconsin but across all of the u.s. full. also coming up tonight. dismisses calls for offers from opposition leader. he can get to and know the disputed results of the presidential election in an
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exclusive she tells us why the protest movement poses the biggest ever challenge to the government troops and russia hitting back at german allegations that opposition leader was poisoned moscow accusing doctors at the berlin hospital where he's being treated of rushing to conclusion. i'm good to have you with us we start tonight in the united states where the family of a black man shot several times in the back say that he is now paralyzed and will likely never walk again officers in the city of can no shit wisconsin 29 year old jacob multiple times from the back is he trying to get into the s.u.v. where his children were sitting. the incident has sparked international outcry and
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has led to consecutive nights of clashes between protesters and police in connection to some demonstrators burned buildings smashed storefronts and looted shops. blake's parents have been speaking at a news conference in connection they addressed both the shooting and the unrest that fall. they. say. 7 times. 7. lucky didn't matter. so much son matter. he's a human being any better. as our right here in this city. i know it is. a lot of damage.
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it doesn't look like my family. or my family. if. you listen to one of the cars that all the violence and the destruction. he would be very. is the parents there of jacob blake speaking just moments ago the w.'s stephon saw him does joins us now from conduction wisconsin 7 we just heard their very emotional mother of jacob blake i'm talking about the damage that has been done to the city then the protests the riots in the past 2 nights what more do we know about that and what are we expecting tonight. let me 1st say that this press conference from what those sound bites we just aired come
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from with just concluded here that's where this is going to get and teary eyed me and let me also say that this is of course the absurdity of it all there is one on one hand the the anger and and frustration of the family that their son was treated. with excessive disproportionate force shot 7 times in the back and on the other hand what the mother pointed out was the scale of destruction here in the shona. which is already apparent 3 or 4 buildings torched to the ground nothing left of them overnight last night cars by the dozens torched and exploding and imploding and what have you there was looting all of that there was a curfew last night and the 2nd night of awful unrest here but it wasn't really enforced. tonight to answer your question will be maybe a different picture there will be another curfew there will be more national guard
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troops and look at this building right here there is this fence you know it's almost the same front fence we are now used to in washington d.c. to have around the white house so this was put up during the day here to protect this building which was yesterday still protected or last night protected by national guard soldiers. now it's been 3 months since another black man george floyd died at the hands of police you covered it there in minneapolis people are on the streets again saying black lives matter it makes you wonder though has anything changed in these past 3 months. right makes you wonder. if the all the other speakers his sisters take up blake made exactly that point there are black or african-american citizens and they live a different life they have to live a life in fear not every day in fear when they wake up and go to bed but every time
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police is involved or knowing force was in any way or form they are in fear and this is a reality they said for african-american people here and it is not going away and it didn't go away in the last 3 months not since we missed what happened to george floyd in minneapolis of course there is black lives matter movement of course there were demonstration nations why we have reported about this and we have talked about disparate many times yeah there is the effort of real change even from caucasian from white people from politicians from people in power and in structure from in police departments they there are many who want to change things for the better get rid of structural and systemic racism it's harder done then it's said it's easy to be said but it's hard work to do this and unfortunately at least for jacob breaks family and for his legal team it appears that he can osha and nothing was done otherwise how can a policeman shoot a person in in a t.
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shirt and shorts 7 times in the back at close range i think a lot of people all over the planet tonight are asking themselves the same question stefan simons in connection with sponsors for stefan thank you. in the supreme court has rejected and the fuel from the opposition to war know the result of the country's disputed presidential election alexander lukashenko who has rubella roots for 26 years claimed victory in that election sparking mass demonstrations against his government despite this unprecedented challenge to his authority he is showing no signs of giving in value instead to intensify a crackdown on protesters. says a familiarity to the historic protests shaking the country in independence square in minsk protest to shout step down it is the same message they have sent to president lukashenko every day since the disputed election the opposition wants
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political prisoners and arrested protesters to be released they also wanted to negotiate directly with the authorities for a peaceful transfer of power they set up the coordination council to do just that but you can shanker rejected the offer calling the council illegal 2 members have already been arrested sergey dyleski was sentenced to 10 days in prison on tuesday along with a colleague. at lunchtime teachers skipped school to protest in front of the ministry of education in minsk some worked as election assistance and vote count is now has threatened to fire the ones who don't support his government. tuesday's protests passed largely peacefully the army which has mostly stayed loyal to the belarusians leader were not on the streets but more protests are planned for the weekend and some are wondering how much longer the reeses authoritarian leader
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will allow the demonstrations to go on. well the european union is refusing to recognize the results of the election bill ruse and that has drawn praise from exiled opposition candidates but he cannot scalia correspondent constantine agar spoke with her in vilnius lithuania where she fled after the election said lot of the kind of scale. what do you think is going to happen in the coming days weeks in belarus we've seen massive demonstrations especially in this but not only as well we've seen alexander lukashenko being filmed by his press with with machine guns so he's showing that he's not going to leave. was going to happen i afraid it's going to be real violence. i have to see them and a continent comment because it's awful but. you know our people
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have changed and i don't know what's going on to happen in there is days but i know what's real happen in the nearest future. people will not step away they walk up and they want you. there rose and. the person who has separate is you still question people will not forgive him it almost for that anything about a situation that has happened after their actions at the same time the correlation council of the bill russian opposition as well as you you say that in the next coming hopefully free and fair elections anyone can take part so does that mean mr look. it's only up to him we are 3 country so i mean any person would be able to lead to supply this elections. do you expect the european union are you satisfied 1st or are you satisfied with the
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support that the european union and germany including have given to to the below russian people and to you for sure we feel great support from or all the countries and the of this of many countries. contacted me and showed their support for our people are they inspired of our people and i am sure they. do their best to. ignite support to our people do what do you think the e.u. international community could do more to help bail russian people. you know it's up to ever country and i had to say that we are. we appreciate and will have that can show by the it's up to them how they can to this
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thank you very much thank you. well it's not only bella ruse russia also has a vocal opposition leader in a foreign country this time here in germany alexina vonnie is in a berlin hospital after falling ill in severe e.-a last week the kremlin is disputing german doctors who say that the volney was poisoned on monday doctors treating him said that they had found evidence that he was indeed poisoned today a criminal spokesperson dismiss those findings saying they absolutely cannot be true of all he was flown to berlin for treatment on saturday he's currently in a medically induced coma the situation has led some german politicians to call for a tougher stance against moscow. german foreign minister is as clear as a diplomat can be the alleged poisoning off aleksei now vanny is a serious matter. the services for it were fast it is vital that everything will be
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done to solve the case and hold those responsible to account for the mission so fresh after. that for germany the relationship with russia is not always black and white. russia is needed a lot of areas internationally for example the preservation of iranian nuclear deal so good for germany it's much more about a strategy of selective engagement than of red lines the head of the bonus tax human rights committee calls for european legislation similar to the u.s. magnitsky act which aims to punish human rights offend us we need to apply a magnitsky law on the european double that enables us as european union to individually sanction those responsible for human rights violations such as travel bans such as asset freezes germany's green party is renewing its calls for the german government to scrap the controversial north stream to gas pipeline project linking germany and russia i think the thing that it's worth to tell you
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why europe because of why that's all and to project i've also seen just wrong is one of funders of a regime which has this kind of systematic us nation that. we shouldn't be there are some german seem to be in favor of a tougher stance towards russia. as if intercession time i find it very distressing and i hope the e.u. will speak with a common voice and maybe take action. must not. feel i can press this and maybe getting a bit tougher or questions. certain things after all it's not the 1st time that as i said i think germany has to make clear that we advocate values and human rights in international agreements when it comes to russia but old so china.
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