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granted still in grade 2 of. course this of course always. comes. with the biggest composer of all time i can't begin to imagine a world class one player several words on a musical journey of discovery. with all. sorts of congress extinct b.t.w. . the chief executive of tick tock steps down kevin mayo has resigned his post amid a raging tech war between the united states and china also coming up with one of the lowest poverty rates in europe but is it so obvious here at economy sustainable in the 21st century. welcome to
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w business i want to go jones and berlin good to have you with us just 3 months after joining tick talk with great fanfare kevin is quitting the chinese owned video app and his short career with the company the former disney executive 1st found himself bang in the middle of a current tech war raging between the u.s. and china. the big question is will kevin mayer find a u.s. buyer for chinese video platform tick-tock before he goes. 4 ringback so far microsoft facebook and oracle have expressed their interest u.s. president donald trump says the app will be banned in the u.s. unless it's brought up by an american company open competition far from it tick tock belongs to chinese company bite what it actually does with the data of tick tocks 100000000 u.s. users is unclear china's willingness to spy on app uses generally is well known. that's why us social media platforms like facebook you tube and twitter have been
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banned from operating in china for years there are 2 worlds when it comes to the internet the western world and the chinese one there's a chinese google called by do. a chinese twitter where you go and even tick-tock is a different beast in china it's called do you in and particular themes a taboo on it videos of the protests in hong kong for example and nowhere to be found on it. so what's the story behind this story our china expect cliff it could end from t w business joins me in the studio now clifford's good to have you here so beijing's not only facebook google twitter as we just heard even even take talk as we know it doesn't exist in china why is that that's right well china operates a very strict system of censorship and control called the great firewall of china
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and basically it comes allow this company even though the chinese company to operate this model to take talk model instead has doyenne i think to understand how this works you have to kind of look at the broader issue here that basically what you see here increasingly although it's a tech war and yes the u.s. election and. you know this company competitive issues between the u.s. tech giants and the emerging chinese giants but it's also a systemic bottle at the moment and i think that you know what we understand as a private company in china isn't the same as we would understand a private company in the west so increasingly these questions are coming to the fore again and again with huawei and now it to talk on all these issues and those different systems more and more seem to clash as we just heard this report you know we're talking about like the parallel worlds when it comes to tech companies the use the internet what is the strategy that beijing is pursuing here well the tech strategy is very much part of the broader strategy for china's development seen by
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the communist party so you have china 2025 which is very similar to the german development program that we had several years ago but they see the tech sector as being crucial to expanding chinese growth to moving up the value chain from from the times of we're basically widgets were made in china now wants to be on the is succeeding in becoming a tech giant but it isn't that isn't the u.s. to tech companies are fighting back in the u.s. government is also fighting back and in some ways doing some of the things that the chinese companies did a few years ago i mean we heard in the report. about how you know the chinese versions of this and we have the foreign ministry in china complaining about the ban on tick talk the other day when in fact you know china is banned facebook isn't played out so there's all these are unease emerging i mean how important is the u.s. market for example for to talk do you think said to beijing you could cave in and and actually sell the company because the u.s. demands it i think they will i mean i think the mayor was was was a big
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a big win for talking it because it gave them a lot of the gist mysie and i think that they will cave because eventually they. ultimately they'll have to. there's no point in them having this if you count operation the u.s. the u.s. is very important because you've got a lot of young consumers there it's you know by dance is the most valuable startup in the world so it's got a lot of these things going for it so i think that ultimately they will sell but how this goes forward of course is another major question and when whether we see this happening before or after the u.s. election if it coonan thank you so much for sharing your expertise thank you. e.u. foreign ministers are meeting in berlin today to focus on close to home issues including a planned sanctions on belarus the country's been making headlines since the controversial presidential election some 2 weeks ago and what could the political
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turmoil mean for the economy well here's a look. there's no end to the protests in further reduce the demonstrators accused by the russian president alexander lukashenko who's held power for a quarter of a century of electoral fraud by demanding he resigns look at your income has responded to the protests with threats and arrests and striving investors out of the country and driving down the value of the country's currency today the belarus ruble is worth 20 percent less than half a year ago. people in bell are russo more prosperous today than they were in the wake of the collapse of the soviet union. in the year 2060 percent of the population was considered poor but that figure that fall into below one percent by 2013. that compares to eastern europe and central asia where 47 percent lived on less than $5.00 a day back then fewer than in berlin reuss but by 2013 poverty levels there had
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only dropped to 14 percent leaving barely roos far ahead of the average. however the country's state subsidized businesses were behind the higher incomes and lower unemployment something many would called false accounting and barousse is still heavily dependent on russia especially for energy. of war i'm joined by maxine cough a fellow at the carnegie moscow center and deputy editor of carnegie dot roof good to have you with us let's start with the amazingly low poverty rate in belarus now a report just cited a world bank survey from 2013 the publicly rates there was a one percent does that still hold in 2020 and and how did bellerose manage to bring the rates down to cells or drastically. oh yeah i think it's still it still holds more or less as a string porkies almost absent in belarus and the man ruthless actually is dead because shanika has
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a prisoner of many social qualities from the soviet times during a russian subsidies that helped him a lot in doing that but still we can hardly cold the russians aside if you brought for us i wasn't part of the russians but the russian people are frustrated by their low income and by the absence of opportunities to improve this week or. every real income over the last decade has been stagnating about how we contributed to last you know and look at the current discontent so you don't have extreme politics but you haven't lost by getting very little ok so people aren't as well off as many feel they should be we let's just briefly also talk about to the country's currency because we hear that those protests were driving investors out of the country who want to be all of these investors who is investing in belarus. the right of ash to surprisingly. biller which has quite well educated labor force if just simply and
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it's relatively cheap so people are investing from their remember old most of them are russians cheney's there are also westerners. morrow before the elections bill refused to have irreparably developing i.q. sector and look at himself has introduced quite a few laws help introduce valis sector but the elections demonstrated that it's very difficult to combine our kike political system reason modern technology and now people people and businesses ollivant. all right what with with about half a minute to go i max and what happens at the protest are actually successful as the opposition will get in power. all these really are very difficult surrounded to navigate because current is the protesters are united only by want to get rid of aggression but then what to do next are very different the raw recruits from state of riders who want to ban privileges
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a should the other strong role western circles do you want to privatize replanned as much as possible the current economic model is unsustainable and it's address no common understanding of how to fall in better way. there from the carnegie moscow center thank you so much. and as a some of the other global business stories making news. says daisy's the opening of the world's largest computer games trade fair normally hundreds of thousands of people head to cologne in germany to attend to games come this year millions will take part online when it opens today gaming is booming in germany with 34000000 games. japan's machine counts and high speed trains are making up for low pandemic passenger numbers by using empty seats to transport fresh seafood the 1st 140 kilograms were being served up in tokyo station but only 2 hours after leaving me i
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gave that is 24 hours fresher than by truck. and the world economic forum meeting of business leaders and politicians is normally held in the swiss ski resort of doubles every january the coronavirus means next year's extravaganza will be held in some a instead and in digital form the meeting has been held in devon was every year since the early 1970 s. . and the past we've brought you stories of enterprising brewers turning their stock into alcoholic and was due to that they make one australian brewery has been converting its be a into something altogether different energy. the bin is flowing again at pirate brewery in adelaide belong down brought a drink a drought by. anymore it was it was tough you know what 50 percent of our sales right there just disappeared i've been on. the brewery was left with gallons and gallons of excess brew but they found a solution they sent it here to the waste water plant where it can be used to
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generate green energy. as anyone who's ever drank too much of it knows there is great for producing gas and that's what happens here it's mixed with sludge and the gas that creates is used in the generators that power the entire plant. it's a great way to you can bet waste into anything so it does help us with our carbon footprint just isn't environmentally friendly why stop at this mess the best generated enough energy to power the equivalent of 1200 homes but now the taps are running again at the brewery the locals think they have a better use for it. then that's your business update for me and a team thanks for watching.
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combating the corona pandemic. where does research stand. what are scientists learning. background information and. our corona update. covert 19 special next on d w. in the. climate change.
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most of. the. people. want to do years do they have their future. g.w. dot com for major cities in the making. could. they could all be silent spreaders. no symptoms like coughing or fever but they could well be passing on the coronavirus. many doctors say only mass testing can break the chain of transmission. with the increase of cases in the neighborhood i
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think it's good for me to know if i have the virus or not there's a chance i'm asymptomatic i don't know that they. i live with my mother who's on dialysis and of course you don't know if you have the virus or if you're asymptomatic. but the u.s. centers for disease control and prevention has changed its testing guidelines to exclude people who don't have symptoms even if they've been recently exposed to the virus. that's got alarm bells ringing some experts say many patients appear most contagious right before the onset of symptoms models suggest half all transmissions can be traced back to people before they get sick if they get sick at all well let's talk about this with health care expert john campbell the retired nurse and academic who joins us from carlisle england john is this change in c.d.c. guidelines dangerous. well the new york times certainly seems to think so the new york times says this was done quietly and he said it was done to exclude people who
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had been in contact with symptomatic individuals but if you actually go to the centers for disease control website it's slightly more nuanced than that it's still advise in people with mild symptoms to be tested and of course it's still advise in testing for people that are in care facilities or work in were working in hospitals for example what is actually saying is people who've been in close contact and the find close contact is 6 feet which of course we would call 2 meters or less for more than 50 minutes what it's actually saying is they do not necessarily need to be tested now they can still be tested at the discretion of their nurses all their doctors or that clinicians or according to local guidelines so it's actually is a change in saying it's not necessarily that they need to be tested so it's a bit of a nuanced change that but i still think it's a problem because this means we could have people that are in contact with known cases who could then be developing the disease and we know that
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a large proportion of people are asymptomatic initially now about half of those people that are asymptomatic initially will go on to become symptomatic eventually but it's interesting the latest data rich showing that people are most infectious immediately before they become symptomatic and in the 1st date after they become symptomatic and of course the symptoms can start off as being fairly mild so what this means is you could have a lot of people going around who are shedding large amounts of the virus that we don't know about if we don't test them just in case the been exposed trying to talk about that i think that it is if i can just so now you're talking about a large amount of people i've read studies that show up to huff those infected with covered 19 show no or hardly any symptoms doesn't that make this fight almost impossible. yeah well that makes it more difficult you're absolutely right that i just met her analysis shows about 4547 percent of people might not develop symptoms but about half of those will go on to develop symptoms over time but many will have
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a mild disease but it is you're right it's very difficult it's very hard to fight an invisible enemy and the only way we can make this enemy visible is by reporting symptoms or by testing we need to test people and as well as that we now know as well as testing those various other things we can test for in the blood to screen people as well that it would be a good idea to do anything we can do to make this virus more visible is going to help then we can target our isolation we can target quarantine it's a new macmini much more specific and targeted in the way we're talking this virus trying to tell me how to how do we even know how many asymptomatic people there are out there if they haven't seen a doctor if we don't have that medical data if there are even enough tests to do the math testing and talking about. it is remarkably difficult you can sometimes you can tell to an extent by the amount of people that become symptomatic in the future and the amount of people that become hospitalized and even the amount of people die but the main way that we do this is with anti gen surveys now different
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countries do this in different ways but in the u.k. the office for national statistics will test about a 1000 random households throughout the country for the antigen and because the testing randomly in random areas they can extrapolate that up to the whole population so it is quite possible to give fairly accurate estimates so all we need very accurate estimates of how many people in the community are infected at any one time and thankfully in the u.k. in germany at the moment not relatively low in spain it's much higher and it's also climbing quite rapidly in france as well john what about age does it play a role when it comes to being a symptomatic. it does it's about 27 percent of children are genuinely asymptomatic and only about 16 percent of adults remain asymptomatic now many more has to be stressed many more are asymptomatic for a period of time and then become symptomatic but it remains the case that more
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children remain completely asymptomatic than adults 27 percent of children and about 60 percent of adults just because they're asymptomatic doesn't mean things are going on in the body if you do x. rays and c.t. scans you can actually see changes that are going on you can see changes in the blood so even low people aren't feeling symptoms there can still be physiological change but the proportion of people who are completely asymptomatic is smaller than we did think at one time john great to get you on the show today john campbell health care expert coming to us i don't have an english thank you was i'm playing young people for the resurgence of the coronavirus in germany they say they're not sticking to social distancing roles is tessa vita. we are in the center of a possible corona hotspot butlins central this neighborhood popular for its bozza nightlife is now seeing a rise in infections we are still around but most young people didn't seem to be worried about some agreed to talk to us but want to stay anonymous i don't
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understand you scared to get infected this wells no not at all i would not go. there if we don't think about it at all we just want to go out they said that a 2nd wave would come so why would it be triggered by people going out we don't know how long time has come around us and the last so you can just keep being scared like. yeah all the time so infections and germany are rising and they're rising fast parties on the street problem the bars and restaurants out in the spotlight on the check out this iconic buy here in berlin before we go in i'm going to put on my must. inside we see that germany's strict hygiene measures are being upheld people keep their distance and just like. everyone wears a face mask when moving around inside the customers are allowed to take it off one
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seated at a table. but that seems to scare people off tonight only a few sorrow when coming in their guests who say next door i didn't have to wear a mosque i hear then they turn around and leave so my feeling is that as a you are punished when you stick to the regulations another rule customers are required to fill in these contact forms with then name and telephone number but that's also a problem. i can't believe that mr donald duck with this weird address came to the spot but look for yourself. and you might say you have all. the district of the limiter ones to fight the corona. the virus by making more random inspections now but every source is a limited explains the name. we can only do so much that we have just under 50 employees they walk in shifts 7 days a week but we can't do more than just surprised checks. one of the inspectors
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contect everybody but that presence might remind people of just how serious the situation has become in the end things can only improve if yes show more responsibility. over to derek williams now our science correspondent has been busy answering your questions on the corona virus. has there been any more research into people catching cave 19 twice. this week researchers have for the 1st time reported 3 scientifically documented cases of people being really infected with sars cove 2 after having it once lots of anecdotal cases have been reported before but this time the scientific evidence that reinfection really does occur is strong because the researchers say they sequenced the strains that were isolated in the
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1st and then the 2nd infections and showed that they were genetically distinct from one another now it's important to note by the way that that all of these claims are unpublished and still have to be confirmed by other scientists but but if they prove true what does it mean while an interesting take away for me is that one of the patients had classic covert symptoms the 1st time around but was asymptomatic when he tested positive the 2nd time around which which could indicate that his immune response was keeping it under control so that's encouraging but the fact that the tests were able to. detect measurable levels of the virus and him the 2nd time around also begs the question of whether people who get covert 9000 again could infect others even if they're asymptomatic that we don't know most experts
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say that this development while we're getting is not unexpected based on what we know about our room immune response to coronaviruses in general almost no one expects acquired immunity to sars cove 2 to be permanent but but until we have a lot more evidence of this happening to a lot more people the questions of if and when and people on average can be reinfected and if they're infectious if they catch began those questions remain pretty open. and a warning from the c.d.c. with winter coming in many parts of the world his director robert bredfield. a bad flu season can really put certain hospitals into. medical stress situation covert obviously has the potential were so important with
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flu and programming at the same time that we really try to take flu off the table as much as possible embracing the flu vaccine is one of the most important things we can do finally i leave you with these brave amputees in japan and paralympic athletes who've taken to the catwalk to raise funds for medical work as a col she has organized the appy t.v. show before but says she's going to back to show how people can overcome the coronavirus aliquid games are set to stop this week in tokyo that is until the virus hit again for the olympics see you again sir.
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this is the w. news live from germany's strategies for curbing the corona pandemic failing the latest test some control system was only introduced a few weeks ago but the number of the new cases keeps rising so chancellor merkel seems ready to tighten the ropes we'll go live to her news conference also coming up a storm that could trigger on some 5 local surges gets to the u.s.
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