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conflict to the table an obvious one chord a person with the children that you know that you're very hungry you don't always take the trouble to take a life and the fork and spoon. you just take your head in. the insisted and some of those sing. along with the head for us in. train clause i was very close before that i was reading once before or through one before without having it wash not even bid our ship them so we could choose a dress or trousers everything was stacked on shelves and each child could choose what to wear. we had to be very innovative quits is closing. they be closing. the boys in the girl as we taught him to make their own
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tarsus their own skirts from. which we got from the home. of that material which was the leg material which turned out the nazi flag was of that. they're huge a roll of blue and why it's cotton material which the germans used. as a make clothes for the babies and the smart children designed hearts and blue invites little you know pence and the children looked adorable you know they looked like they were french sailors. after everything we went through in the war in this store was paradise a paradise on earth. there were people who were there just for us miss fisher mr marks and the others became like parents to us go believe you know exactly.
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what it can feel like home. or was there. but it felt save. queen elizabeth ducking a father and son had a 5 minute delegates of united nations general assembly. as 1st lady eleanor roosevelt had already in $1039.00 urged jewish refugee children from germany be admitted to the u.s. a few months after the war ended she met with a united nations observer delegation in europe she quickly realized the problems faced in rebuilding the shattered continent all too often former concentration camps only superficially converted served as emergency accommodation for the homeless was that liberation lack of food poor hygiene and inactivity
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left millions of people demoralized. given the urgency of the situation roosevelt wrote. what is important is rehabilitation the sooner these people can be taken where they can become citizens and feel they are actually building a new life the better it will be for the whole world. but the children of india's don't have abby could count on team 182 whether medical doctor psychologist or teacher their dedication was impressive. there ever since to the still during the year no mother no doctor ever saying good. mainly the emotional part too to help them vista storage if you have a problem you could always go to any one of them and they will solve it the day
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they try to solve it for you i will never forget what they done and stuff i've done a very good job this summer because don't forget people will turn to become boys in a terrible state traumatized i have this psychological problem so why did i survive and not my other brothers and sisters my mother or my friends why did i do to deserve this freedom. i'm never going to end. i find the perfect marriage. and the perfect wife. why couldn't they. hear her i know here that. the majority of the survivors remained alone with their trauma
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the world closed its eyes to their fate life had to go on but in interest of the children were encouraged to speak to let it all out. each tell her story to tell tell the story. the separation of their parents off the smaller sisters and brother this. you must understand those who survived and the special ed teachers church. they're the really extraordinarily strong people their will to survive blocked out absolutely as was the visit to survive and be still they choose to live a block out absolutely f. you are recovering both psychologically and physically and.
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i think we had the feeling that probably have a pretty good lawyer you've. pretty good hope for. the future. after all that. that's the kind of. the thing i remember when it was just this process of being normalized or getting to feel normal being human beings. you have to use threat to him it wasn't like i couldn't speak any more to me. but i was dead inside. i didn't want to speak anymore that was that. he was 6 years old a child i was afraid all the time that he would just disappear you know so we
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didn't leave each other side. like that. no no mommy the evenings were the worst mamma was no longer there. during the day we were allowed 2 hours a day in the yard and then we could play make. do you remember the mcalary played or to list actors above returned at the games yes stuck and i still remember at some point the memory came back with how we danced in front of the building that you're under the arcades with you but before you had any after all the agony during the war we were doing well we were able to start our childhood all over again and still.
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got showered whoever wanted to could learn to play the guitar or the violin but we could choose anything and then there was the atmosphere we discovered american music with music that was completely unknown to us. in that piece saying if there was a theater and there was a small stanch she isn't thinking it was great fun over there for the solo books of will. learn some english they tried to teachers. trains. and they're doing some general schooling you know. trying to make up some for what diminish. the cause of this is this we did what children do pilates soccer or watch movies when on high or should
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i say that's what. i mean was it to do the servant as some normal life as possible but i 1st sent it to day after the 3 much succeeded in that. europe was going through the most difficult phase of reconstruction the surviving jews from central europe were urged to return to their home countries but anti-semitism had not disappeared with the allied victory and local residents were unwilling to accept the return e.-s. . in july 9 14642 people of jewish faith fell victim to a pogrom in the city of killed say in poland men women and children were killed by local residents. violence persecution and attacks against jewish communities
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triggered a new wave of fear and prompted many polish jews to emigrate. in divorce i don't remember anything you know dramatic happening but. there were some tension there one problem that originated long before it goes off long before defeated them as that nationality is then get along with a show that i remember one time i got into something again read some of the porridge. and some of my jewish. comrades who are very disapproving you know say. blacks rip them.
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young boy my age i know a young guy got it but bigger than me everybody is bigger. and. cursed me out and called me as shit and nasty words for a joke and i hit him in the face and i broke his nose and i broke my finger. we would always go in the evening so it was a piece of chocolate which was a vixen a tweet so one evening. the conversation came the next day so a group of jewish chose the rest. and then the girls the polish girls heard that they said they would not stay vis jewish children in russia plays that are jews for tell the people they were such. so we talked of beer
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choice you can knock him actually and this is clearly of those children this started crying and shouting when it's not possible and you are good people and you helping us it took us months it took us months every day to grow over the same story that there are jewish people to be a catalyst to there are kinds of. there are good people and bad people but to be there here who helped of. the main task of team 182 was to offer psychological and practical help for the way back to win normal life it was a mission that was not always easy to accomplish. that when ever we vent school the how the broils had already their pockets full of stones to go to stores and the population and we took turns he said if you see anybody on the way and on stand
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said that this is hardly fair and this is going to take you there and. that is a german came and complained that the children were stealing his apples. more dish it out the up. then miss fisher asked him but who is to blame the children of course and why are they here. why do the children have to steal apples when you can you give them to them that i don't know because all of which will crush me gave quite some lessons to the german. that the least they could do is not wait for the children to steal the apples and pears for to bring to us the apple and so. somewhere to this is that by the end of 2 years we had the total village working for us. lilian
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robbins director of the children center and in a staff described in a speech in the us in 1947 what reintegration meant to a displaced child. as nations negotiate new borders reparations and economic benefits that child only knows the consequences of exploitation of national greed of war. he can grow up to become a bitter disillusioned selfish adult interested only in what works to his own advantage but such a child can also become the most important contributor to building a new world where international cooperation is the cornerstone. it is the responsibility of the united nations to clear the way for him but what way will this be.
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at the beginning we didn't know the facts then after the year after 2 years we felt it's harder security we could give those children not enough that this should be should this stage of an evil really should you know help to leave. to leave germany should be brought up 1st summer air river just anxious to get out of germany very germany was like a graveyard for i decided then that i never want to go back to that country that betrayed me and i never want to work when ron did what it could to help the children in their future life it is shoot id cards and try to find relatives it commissioned an american photographer to take pictures of every
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child in dust off. pictures of a lost childhood the search for family members helped repatriate non jewish children to poland. many found at least one of their parents. if. i had applied to emigrate to the united states. a message from the red cross came 2 weeks before my departure that my mother was looking for me. she wrote come back my son. and so instead of going to america i went back to poland. i went back out of love for my mother but nothing in the world could have changed my mind. to convince you . the jewish orphans could no longer hope for a mother's love their search for relatives was almost always in vain. the camera
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team came to india staff together with a photographer a chance of that changed the fate of the young boer using camera crew came very much like what i see here it was smaller than i guess and filmed richard and i went to the cameramen and said to him you know i have a brother in america is a photographer very well known maybe you know him and he left. america's big country i say. brother of majlis name is martin. as soon as i said it he jumped off his seat. he said he is one of my best friends i had dinner with him through the phillies their goal. or went to his brother in new york and became
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a camera man himself but stories like his border on miracles. after the war ended friend said made it 420 young survivors on one rise initiative but most of the others had no prospect of a new home the situation seemed hopeless. in ever over desmonte the question of this was where we call. little boy expressed it fears of poorly he said. it was turned over we lost our whole lives it was 12 the last of parables but the worst sin is we have no call to the real state law is very long over to nobody really knows about. and nobody wanted this nobody wanted to know you can feel sorry for somebody but do nothing about it. i thought i thought what
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people said as if this story i want. hunching be done for the people people who are not nothing was done to the people there are still many years and years afterwards there was still d.p. cams and germany across countries that want to accept any survivors. a report to president truman describe the situation of the jewish survivors quite bluntly they have been liberated more than military sense to actually their particular problems to this time of the being given attention to any appreciable extent consequently they feel that they who are in so many ways the 1st and worst victims of naziism are being neglected by their liberators truman's response was a december 22nd 1945 directive making immigration to the united states easier in the mean time progress also started to be made in dust off run of the 1st
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children to girl from gloucester in the store as a group of $42.00 children. to end a month don't mean that anybody is under 16 good going to invent us on the air and i just hope they make. the plane that's me from munich to most of them this is and then we got. sent on the from members was an air force plane. no chance for us on the front. running by 1st. name. who they ever thought the jewish boy. comes from his movies primitive village. in england.
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while leslie and later also martin were flown to britain having remained in dust off but then he found a distant cousin in the us and emigrated there in 1906. he only saw his friend lesley again decades later. president truman also suggested setting up self-governing camps for jewish adults their residents soon organized education health care and religious services and skills in handicrafts and for agriculture were also taught it was in keeping with the aspirations of the zionist movement which called for a political solution to the situation of the jews in europe their own state. a new chapter also began for in those doff in february 1946 a group of young jews arrived accompanied by zionist activists the magically seen their goal the emigration to palestine. greater fisher was impressed by
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the determination and independence of the young people what set them apart from the others was that they acted consciously as a collective and thus were prepared for life in the cube roots in their future home . there are more very. oh. oh oh oh oh they. among the new arrivals in was a group of young jews from poland they gave themselves the name. which means stalwart in hebrew they tried to return to poland but anti-semitism in eastern europe forced them to say good bye to their old lives. if we find jews here will impale them on the pitchfork that's something i heard so much it was impossible to
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stay there because the locals didn't like jews. there was a network of jewish organizations in poland. that put together groups gratian to everett's israel. the promised land or there's real. your. own money by people who came from the milord such from woods we made our way in groups. we arrived in germany with all sorts of names and ages for example i had the papers of a 60 year old man but. i knew that. i don't think everything was legal. not all our know. our history as a group as it exists today essentially started in interest off my pure luck because
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i'm up there lobbying those. in the summer of 1946 in does doffed became a center for jewish children alone sophia and youngish packed their bags together with the other non jewish children and those who did not want to emigrate to palestine they moved to a new center near prien. south of munich. was still in charge of interest off but was limited to logistical support in collaboration with international jewish associations teachers magically heem from palestine took over education. the a turn group became like a new family for the survivors with shared ideals and goals but palestine was currently still under british mandate immigration was illegal and difficult while they waited to leave interest off the youngsters prepared for the big journey.
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brass and finally the day came to set off for israel it's actually got a lot there it's. a new another new channel. the group from in their stores were spread across 2 large groups. the theodore hurtle exodus 947. the trip from india as doff to israel was top secret. we were taken to a large warehouse in the south of france. for 4500 jews can think they're to go to israel by ship. the exodus was a cruise for $400.00 passengers. your money showing were shattered by british ships from the very 1st day begun to serve
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if during the day we had a high level odette. we only went up on deck to get some air in the evening airplanes flew over us at some point we realized that they had discovered us. our ship was seen and towed to haifa ferry for. your annual get there we were put on prison ships that took us to cyprus. relax a little bit of friction. after being intercepted by the navy the illegal immigrant ship exodus $947.00 entered haifa harbor under escort. as the illegal image of art you're watching right our demand to the british was always the same that. you took us out of israel take us back there.
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together with the passengers of the exodus of remotely now home young killer and the other members of the group fell victim to the restrictive british immigration policy they were taken to transit camps in cyprus or sent back to europe their odyssey caused international outrage only a year later after the founding of the state of israel on may 14th 1948 did they reach their destination together they founded the key boots where they still live today. the children center in india staff finally closed its doors in september 948 around a 1000 children found refuge here for a few weeks or months. that autumn later fischer accompanied a group of young jews to their new life in canada. she continued her social work and helped them to integrate the children she helped all her life where the only
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ones she would ever have. 3 crime examples for the power of critical. pray just perseverance transcending borders an obstacle. they are now being honored for their enjoy the good. arch 21. 30. w. .
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