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and carted off to europe by colonialists. each artifact has blood on it from that have yet to heal. what should be done with the stone or from africa. this is being hotly debated on both continents. go unsold for september 7th g.w. . when you're an entrepreneur and doom want to be just speaking to one people it means a lot when it can resonate with somebody in berlin with somebody in brazil.
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a warm welcome to art's $21.00 this time from weimar for a special edition devoted to the good to medal every year since $955.00 germany's go to institute on ars luminaries who've made outstanding contributions to international cultural exchange well the theme of this year's awards is the burden and benefits of contradiction which simply put is in treating us to avoid black and white thinking and to engage in the kind of debate that encourages a more profound reflection well it's certainly evocative of the work of the 1st of our 3 go to medal recipients british author ian mckeown and because he's currently sitting out the pandemic at his residence in the car. it's wild west of london we
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conducted this interview with him over skype. mckeown has a keen eye for detail little escapes him he's interested in every aspect of the human experience the murky depths of our souls our political debates the latest developments in science his insatiable curiosity as reflected in his novels an essay. with what's happening in the world and sometimes it's pulling me out of this private space to get involved whether it's great cities all climate change and it's a struggle for me because i'm not naturally an activist. but i think i have a strong moral sense and it's a push and pull between wanting to see in the solar tree in world a lot down world of the novel in his in his writing and this ng agent. humans
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1st book 1st love last rites appeared in 1975 he's published 20 novels and collections of short stories so far many of which have been adapted for the screen . but 10 minutes was critically acclaimed both as a novel and a film a sweeping tale of betrayal guilt and love. the children act from 2014 was also made into a film a high court judge has to make a life or death decision a teenage boy refuses a life saving blood transfusion on religious grounds once again mckeown proved to be a con a sewer of the human experience unafraid to ask the big questions novels of forms of investigation we are what condition is. what it's like to be human what it's like to be human now this stage in history and novels are also increasingly exploratory it was. the impact is all new technologies on
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private lives as well as social existence something he explores in his latest novel in machines like me published in 2019 he tells the story of an android and asks are robots perhaps better than humans. only months later he published the cockroach a biting satire about breaks it mcewen imagines an insect transformed into the british prime minister it's the most overtly political novel he's ever written mckeown is a vocal and passionate remainer describing brags it as the most pointless masochistic ambition ever dreamed up and the history of these islands we lost that battle we were outmaneuvered we were divided among ourselves in many ways. and we now just have to do that. you know there's nothing else we can. make you and it
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has garnered numerous awards in the course of his career but the good time metal has a special significance to him he partly grew up in germany france kafka he says was his introduction to literature and bought his introduction to music he has a huge following here and confesses he has a strong sentimental attachment to germany i was in berlin for the fall of the wall . in 89 new member it meant more to me than 80 geopolitical public events in my life the to be there in berlin in those 4 or 5 days and that is also a country very very. to be honored in the name of gutter is a privilege indeed. sometimes we talk about what information we should send. an unmanned space ship that was going to need our solar system we sent. we had to send
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a representative with humanity and i think gertrude would come pretty close to the top of my list because his interests were not only in literature and drama. in the nature of. public administration politics and in music. he says the era of the great polymaths is over. but if there's a thinker today who comes close. it's in mcewen. well normally in mcewen would have been here in weimar on august 28th go to birthday to accept his get a medal in person and as is the custom he would have received it from klaus to tell a man the president of the good to institute at a festive gala event complete with music and an enthusiastic audience but of course
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because of the covert $1000.00 pandemic none of that was possible and the event has had to be taken online or happily the good institute was able to team up with deutsche avella as media partner for a streamed event but laureates and guests alike will of course have to forego their visit to weimar a city that like no other embodies the spirit of german enlightenment and. weimar interring in wrote european cultural history in the late 18th century giving rise to what today is known as a by mark last ism a center of intellectual life weimar was a hotbed of creativity. the little dutchy in eastern germany attracted the greatest writers thinkers musicians and scientists of the era. one of the most prominent personalities of the time johann both come from good made weimar his home he and his work thrived here he lived in this house for 50
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years until his death and 1830 to. be noble helpful and good was his credo humanity and tolerance his guiding principles summed up in the concept of moral beauty the town's greatest minds all shared this deeply humanist approach. closest friend and collaborator was also interested in philosophy and the natural sciences for 20 years they exchanged ideas and inspired one another. by mars open atmosphere produced world literature. gets a believed people should interact with the natural world appreciating it with all their senses so it's hardly surprising that he chose to work and relax in the middle of a landscape by the river in. here he pursued his passion for botany and wrote poetry inspired by nature. just
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a few 100 meters away is the duchess on a amalia library named after its main patron it houses materials from around the world which are accessible to everyone. for 35 years good to himself was head librarian there under his direction its collection grew to 80000 books and keeping with weimar classicism submission to educate the general public. alike johan 5 conference good to himself good to medal winners are really lentulus seekers of knowledge and conveyors of culture over the years many international personalities have been on it including the likes of iranian filmmaker and artist sheehan nasha nigerian british photographer hakim border i can be or spanish writer or a gay sempra. our next laureate is the 1st ever african woman to win the go to
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medal and a literary powerhouse whose work transcends borders well beyond her home continent south african writer and publisher to kiss her well or not only has a way with words she doesn't mince them either. one of the pins that really gets my goat is when i get referred to as a black african american writer that i'm like how. why must i have this little what you call it where i just i want to be a good writer. so kids were aware is a woman unafraid to speak her mind born in zambia and now based in kenya the south african novelist and children's sports writer is also a journalist and publisher in response to the coded one $900.00 lockdown she also founded in curated a pan african online literature festival that brings together new and established
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voices prolific multitalented and with seemingly inexhaustible energy how does she juggle many interests. with very little sleep. i think if you love something you always make time for. her writing almost always has a political subtext. her debut novel the madams was published in 2006 it's the story of 3 well off middle class women in post apartheid south africa torn between career and family traditional and modern female roles. i am essentially. very pro are for a very pro women and i think this generally comes out in my books what's the 3 all have in common it's about identity. i'm writing for readers but more importantly i'm writing for people will say oh reading is boring they are i've
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got a book for you finish once i finish one page and told me that's boring. old writer with the message. is eager to reach young readers and also to support emerging writers. i don't want my generation to be the last generation of writers you know i always to myself to be able to hold on and bring younger generation of writers and give them voice and give them the platform giving people a voice when i was writing often features straying and dialect that reflects africa's diversity and imbues her stories with life my readers should be able to understand the context you know if they don't get the context then it means i have failed it's not that the language has failed i have failed as a writer. fear $2900.00. 1 when i took
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part in the talk posted by the great institute. of feminist a citizen of the world she's a regular guest at international literary bands. i think i'm an itinerant by nature anyway i have always been an outsider looking in if you were but i also get that insider's perspective. so kids when where is the 1st african-american woman to win the got a medal making her a role model for many. when you're an artist you want to be just speaking to one people it means a lot where it can resonate with somebody in berlin or with somebody in munich with somebody in brazil but above all she wants to resonate as an african writer they need to be heard more but maybe we need. more voices that are more visible a lot of african countries. to 16 years from colonialism still growing.
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well it's a relatively small city but weimar is a heavyweight in terms of its cultural and artistic legacy with both classical and modernist traditions as the birthplace of the powerhouse school just over a century ago it was the starting point for one of the 20th century's most influential currents in modern design in architecture the museum here behind me recalls that early powerhouse period and the creative force that was ultimately shot down by the nazis well now 75 years post world war 2 weimar is an international cultural magnate.
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very well known universe in our town and when i came here i was looking for the you know very very universal. that was 2 years ago farzana who is from tehran wanted to pursue her path and try out different art forms she opted for weimar and for a masters in public art a new artistic strategies ringback. when i came here i met wonderful artist here from all over the war as our program is international not all the time. and some of our projects we need. each other and actually this is one thing that i hadn't experienced before because when i was in iran most of my work was. the nature archive is currently showing
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a selection of her cartoons which are her very personal interpretation of the works of the controversial german philosopher nature. she read him as a teenager but did not know at the time that he had spent the last years of his life here at the villa. which was renovated at the beginning of the 20th century by the belgian architect already found a fan. whenever i cross some streets here sometime the meaning of time for me has changed that sometimes i'm in the past or i'm in the prisons because there are many who story it's part of our different parts of the city look at mco bailey is a musician from mozambique he has lived in weimar for almost 3 years. he's currently doing a ph d. at the ponce list university of music where he also teaches what is in this
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traditional instruments. these. is the future is all is there life is past present and future of woman of or of human kind that's what i see in the student and i believe it's it's our mission also to. keep it alive he also likes to make his own instruments saying that it's amazing how universal and versatile they are and that they can easily fit in with jazz or western classical music if you play music people will very quickly the musicians will be kids and go people can communicate music only when we have very far from understanding each other linguistically. he says that he loves the fact that by maher is full of music upgrade to vittie inspiration and that he's also impressed by how. visionary both good and schiller work. is also aware of the city's less
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glorious past not that far away is the former concentration camp. taji things that also happen to be headed to to keep this consciousness over what really can happen amongst humans and. it gives me more power to use music to address these issues to really see. the music music works opals it does this kind of hate through you know hate to discrimination music works opposite of that is. the capital international is a popular meeting point for refugees and locals the jordanian architect who either all job ali volunteers here translating and interpreter for those who don't speak german and these days also giving out information related to the call that 19 pandemic was rushed to the fish i want to understand the personality of the
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refugees how they live here in germany but all over the world too it helps me from my research. as i pursue my academic career i want to continue working on migration refugees and refugee camps. the 1st get there just in that year. but the 1st interest to. bali is doing a ph d. at bal house university where she has a research assistant post. and she's particularly interested in how refugee camps are designed and managed. this month but i like this city and i like the people i feel good here i've been living here for 2 years and weimar is like home now. one.
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of the. she says she likes the fact that it's small but beautiful and she especially enjoys its multicultural atmosphere. demonstrated here by a klezmer concert that's part of the get it summer festival. well when you think of the bar house you most probably think of architecture and design but one of the most productive and successful by house workshops was actually the weaving workshop where they experimented with both industrial methods and with traditional craft techniques from indigenous communities and weaving is just one of the arts that helped our 3rd good to medal laureate. of bolivia to make her mark and to broaden the scope of accepted indigenous art and.
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be an artist poet essayist musician and a weaver she fought hard to succeed in a world that traditionally sidelines women and indigenous cultures. live. every day as illustration is complete in its way has its own language its own forms of artistic expression textiles woodcutting ceramics it's not always painting pictures on canvas. when she was 6 a mother taught her how to weave. but she wanted more. this determination led her to leave her family and she financed her higher education herself. the 1st time she saw paroch ark she was in a church she was instantly to. get significant of. what did these paintings mean people who had them put there why are they so important that the priest explained this art to me its importance and he also told me i could train as
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an artist myself. my curiosity was sparked. i went on to study art and that. was the 1st to where indigenous dress in the academy of the world up in a sauna. but i had to. have. spanker was a voracious reader she devoured texts on anthropology medicine archaeology and linguistics researching indigenous languages but she was especially interested and textile market. power colors traditionally made using which plants which techniques . she traveled throughout the end is gathering expertise on ancient cracks in the course of researching a book on weaving she discovered that the bauhaus movements textile workshop was inspired in part by andy and weaving techniques.
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that came as a surprise. i'd like to focus on the exchange between bolivia and germany in my future work fragments of our textiles had made their way to germany and served as a source of inspiration. i'd like to pay tribute to how believing in textile art influenced modernism. building artistic and creative bridges as very much the focus of her work. this versatile artist has also collaborated with the musician all about all montenegro they use traditional songs and instruments with jazz elements and contemporary urban sounds. in 2013 she was appointed to the national museum of it and folklore in the pots a highlight of her career as expected she gave it an extensive review using modern presentations to display traditional art from various south american countries.
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educational programs for children and young adults have been an enterable part of the museum's approach along with conferences and outreach workshops thanks to our beat us. the newseum is widely seen as one of the most important cultural centers in bolivia she's traveled the world as a tireless him by. part. is that whenever i return to bolivia i see the problems that the ruling class is claiming to its power and barricading itself. it's a complex issue. that came as a shock earlier this year when it was announced that she would be giving up her position after president evo morales resigned in 2019 many in bolivia fear that the interim government will ship the country to the right. there i believe that at the moment art is one of the best tools of resistance but it's also a target audience band of street artists band it's difficult right now.
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she may now be an artist of international stature but her indigenous roots remain key to her identity. and with that congratulations to all 3 winners of the go to medal for 2020 you can find the digital stream version of the award ceremony on our website at www dot com slash culture where there's lots more information about the laureates and the go to metal itself not to mention music well that's it for our arts $21.00 special coming to you from historic weimar and because good to once uttered the words enjoy it when you can and endure when you must i think i'll take him at his word and see a little bit more of this wonderful city all the best to you and.
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