without being told in september 16th on. this is d w news coming to you live from berlin president trump under fire for playing down the credit virus outbreak and its fairly status. the one who would still panic we don't want to jump up and down and start shouting that we have a problem. u.s. president defends his response after a new book alleges he knew about the dangers of the virus but failed to warn the public also coming out left with nothing what now for the $12000.00 migrants with

nowhere left to go after a massive fire destroys the morea campbell the greek island of les paul's we'll hear from the n.g.'s trying to help the ground. hello i'm terry martin good to have you with us u.s. president under fire again for his handling of the corona virus outbreak following an explosive new book in that book veteran journalist bob woodward says trump deliberately downplayed the danger posed by the virus in the 1st weeks of the pandemic other news conference the president defended his handling of the crisis from said he was not lying to the public but that he did not want to calls conics more than 189000 americans have died from the virus so far i don't want people to be frightened. i don't want to create panic well joining me here in the studio for

more is a reporter and u.s. expert peter. peter what do you make of trump's explanation for apparently misleading the american public about the dangers of the credible right i mean i think one thing to understand about trump is that he is he's a big believer in the power of positive thinking right he likes to talk things up rather than play them down except for apparently in this case he likes to call himself a cheerleader for the country and said you know he wants to project strength and confidence and i think he said one thing last night the really kind of summed up that that ethos that i think embodies let's listen and certainly i'm not going to drive. this country or the world into a frenzy we want to show confidence we want to show strength we want to show strength as a nation and that's what i've done and we've done very well right and so of

course you know what he actually did by withholding information from the public is was in a sense actually create more panic because he created a false sense of security he repeatedly told americans not to wear a mask even though he very early on knew that the virus was airborne he said that it was no worse than a flu even though we have him on tape on september 7th saying that you know this virus was 5 times more deadly than the flu so. it created penny because americans did not understand essentially what they were up against the economy has been tanking asked result because they didn't know how to respond to the pandemic and one last thing i will say mean for him to say that he did not want to create panic really just is not square with you know his basic campaign message that we've seen in these past couple months where you know panic is very much driven his message he's you know to treat the unrest that we've seen in connection with the black lives matter protests as the biggest threat to the suburb and the safety of

americans he's betrayed by radical socialist that the you know that the fate of the country and the security of the countries at stake here so those 2 things don't really add up and ok well all of this of course is happening right in the middle of the u.s. election campaign and the democrats have been watching what these revelent revelations that have been coming out of bob woodward book let's take a listen in what democratic candidate joe biden is saying about these latest revelations he knew how deadly it was it was much more deadly than the flu he knew and purposely played it down worse he lied to the american people he knowingly and willingly lied about the threat it posed to the country for months. he had the information he knew how dangerous it was and while those deadly disease ripped through our nation he failed to do its job on purpose was a life and death betrayal of the american people. so joe biden is saying that trump

failed in his duty to protect the american people even though he knew there was an imminent danger could this further damage trump's reelection prospects do you think yeah i think you know biden is not just up by 8 points on the national average he is also the one that voters say they trust most to get this pandemic under control. you know we saw essentially republicans trying to paper over a little bit the revelations that came out of this that are coming out of this book by saying you know what experts really got it wrong as well. and i think what democrats are going to try to do and i think that's going to be potentially quite effective is to say you know this is exhibit a in their case to voters saying that they can't trust trump that he only has his

own reelection in mind not the lives of americans trump well do his best to convince voters that he can still be trusted that he has now got the pandemic under control he won't need more voters than just you know his base you need suburban voters he will need older votes a lot of those people have turned their backs on from because of his handling of the demi and so a lot of people and that's what we saw especially a lot of social media as they say he has you know essentially failed his most sacred duty as a president that is to protect americans we thank you very much. let's take a look at some of the latest developments in the corona virus and the global death toll from the pandemic has now passed 900000 the united states remains the were the world's worst affected country with deaths exceeding 190000 as mention however india continues to see a rapid rise in case it's france's covert hospitalizations have served to

a one month high of more than 5000 season spreading their the fastest pace since it emerged and germany's foreign ministry is advising against travel to several cities including prague geneva and brought nick due to local spikes in infections. catch up on some of the other stories making headlines around the world today in the united states at least 7 people have died in wildfires in the states of california oregon and washington hundreds of homes in oregon have been destroyed with the governor warning it could be the greatest loss of life and property due to the blazes the state has ever seen. u.s. secretary of state my phone peo has said the alleged poisoning of kremlin critic alexina bunny was likely ordered by quote senior russian officials doctors in berlin say the body was poisoned by the nerve agent. on paper said washington would have barely wait its response to the attack. and following international outcry

over the net vall in the case russian president vladimir putin has announced a committee will investigate what happened that's according to italian prime minister giuseppa conti he told an italian newspaper it was ready to work with german authorities russia said it had no evidence that the money was poison ivy. thousands of like brits have spent a 2nd night without shelter after a fire ripped through the morea facility on the greek island of les voss a fresh fire broke out on wednesday night and part of the camp that had survived the 1st place local officials suspect arson say it may have been a protest against a coronavirus lockdown imposed earlier this week u.s. officials say the migrants fate must be made a priority. a humanitarian catastrophe unfolding on the streets of lies false solutions of exhausted men women and children some born in the

now destroyed maria camp left homeless fighting heat and hunger. little over 3 decades of the i'm left north of north doing nothing for me. to do the will of the fuel for. no money put up listen. now we will sleep on the street what can we do that we don't have food we don't have anything what can we do. meanwhile officials point the finger of blame for the fire at residents angry over strict coronavirus quarantine measures. is this going to since because i recognized the difficult conditions however nothing can become an excuse for violent reactions to health checks and even more so for such extensive on races

that it has. amid the ruins of what was moreas notoriously crowded camp aid workers say the tragedy has been a long time coming. we had our shock about. the situation that all the time and the bricks that one day or the other. night the. 5 years of progress you will find it difficult to take the party state run by and often as much as. people in. the race to really house the displaced is under way 400 unaccompanied children boarded a flight to mainland greece on weight and stay. for the families. left behind the week continues their fate in the hands of leaders their futures on sachin.

for more i'm joined by journalist. and. it's going on 2 days now since fire gutted the morea camp on lesbos forcing thousands of migrants on the streets what's the situation there now. well we've heard some pretty bold remarks by the government coming out especially the prime minister saying that the situation will be brought out under control and that the government is scrambling to place about under control but that doesn't match up and square up with what we're seeing on the ground which is just harrowing images of thousands of people out there on the streets chargers pregnant women elderly handicapped just trying to seek and find some place to to to put their belongings to where they've slept out in the rough people who have gone into parking lots others i saw trying to erect a tent in a cemetery next to tombstones to shelter families these are scenes of

complete and other chaos and a lack of state initiative and involvement but what the authorities are telling me is that they have presented the local authorities with 4 proposals i think 5 actually of where they can actually set up a tent city to get these people to get these refugees into safe shelter and these proposals have been knocked down by the authorities who are simply frustrated by this lingering situation here on the island of lesbos this camp situation this camp which was built initially to house between 2300 people now housing 6 times over 12000 and overcrowded in abysmal conditions so many here is saying that this wasn't an you know and accident that was waiting to happen in a tragedy that is unfolding it's not the 1st time we've seen such violence gripping

these as this island but it's definitely a worse because so this is not coming entirely unexpectedly and yet there apparently is no plan in place what is going to happen. to these 12000 migrants who are now utterly dispossessed. you're absolutely right. the plan calls for them. to be taken to a facility an enclosed facility and it to be relocated that because the camp in malta is just inoperable it's been raised it's been destroyed down and in fact we had a fresh fire overnight that destroyed even whatever remaining that could have been used to restructure it so but again there's a lot of local opposition what kind of support is the e.u.

providing in this situation if any. what we have an e.u. commissioner who's coming in from brussels to athens for an eyewitness for an on the ground account today but all again all this this entire situation has rekindled calls by greece to the e.u. to really reach out and make a difference and assist greece in this task of shouldering the migration crisis the prime minister yesterday was very very proud of and his national address saying that greece can no longer shoulder the burden of europe's migration problem and there's a huge debate today among pundits and critics about revising european migration policy and to thank you very much for bringing us up to date there that was and t. in a. just a reminder of the top story we're following for you this hour u.s. president told trump has responded to allegations made in an explosive new book

that he downplayed the coronavirus and albright weeks before he publicly acknowledged concerns about a pandemic trump said he was not lying to the public but did not want to call. this is g.w. nous remember you can always get all those news and information on our website if t w dot com i'm terry martin thanks for watching. combating the corona pandemic. where does research stand. what are scientists learning.

background information and. our corona update. 19 special next on d w. i'm not laughing at the germans i think sometimes i am but most and nothing with the people generally think they've been to the german culture. you don't see him taking his grandmother to you because it's all that you. know i might join me for me to get funky gulf coast. india is on its way to becoming the world's largest covered 19 hotspot with 4300000 cases india has surpassed brazil as the country with the 2nd tightest number of infections public health experts warn it's inevitable india will soon claim the record it's not surprising that the numbers that are coming out and. reading in.

india would be a culprit by end of september. india has ramped up coronavirus testing and is now conducting more than a 1000000 a day for the virus shows no sign of slowing. that hasn't stopped the gradual reopening of the economy and schools. we have to open up the economy we have to lift restrictions of the world's work isn't possible. to protect people's livelihoods while also protecting their lives it's the high stakes decision being faced around the world. india's battle with corona virus is unparalleled around the world and subject to one of the world strictest lockdowns introducing tough measures back in march when they were just 500 cases in the country but that didn't stop the spread interest posting record numbers of new cases on an almost daily basis with nothing to suggest the curve is nearing its

peak over the past couple of months india's average number of cases per day as risen from below 30000 to over 80000 even the us at its worst wasn't posting figures that high meanwhile hundreds of thousands of young indians desperate to get into top level universities have been taking part in highly competitive exams safety measures are in place but many students are worries that a few days after the college tests they'll need covered 19 tests to. examinations during a pandemic are never rights to some colleges remain closed as india records the highest daily rise and cases in the world. these students are appealing for a crucial test. and it's testing like never before. mosques assigned at the exam center constant sanitization and repeated calls for social distancing

services can i use my parents and students who are reassured by these measures these see they cannot afford to lose any more time to the pandemic all the candidates are trying hard to give the argos all big because as all the safety measures were big and so that was all going on to get theirs and they were the band and they got the upper notice they could have conducted this examinate. but they push it to july and now they become to port any more delays yet not everyone has been listened to the asked about that many of the competitive advance held every year in india have faced default position this time students have protested online against the risk this may have been forced to take and have even approached the supreme court all of the students took to social media to trend the hashtag rise against exams and quit while the supreme court has rejected their demands to do and say forcing them to appeal for the exams is cruel it's probably a good while an aspiring doctor is expected to travel one just to kilometers next

week to the test center she hasn't stepped out in 5 months and start a fight to do so she would do most all the social media that another exam led to dozens of school with 19 deaths in 01 i know many students whose parents are asking them to skip exams this year it is far too risky to go for them nothing is decided for me either my family is scared they don't know whether i should go for the 6 am i not. opposition parties have taken up the cause as well as the accuse them or the government of being and i student protesters insist they do not want the exams cancelled but simply postponed until it is safe for government in the. control of their students of them in their county. and the their parents. because. all are being costly but i minister of india to postpone your.

time be. these students however intend to get on with their parents these seed there will have to be formed within this new normal. we can all speak to do we used delhi bureau chief to cheema thanks for joining us so interesting this seemingly constant very steep rise in cases what's behind it you know people are describing india's the new epicenter of this girl in a virus in the past 24 hours almost 90000 new infections were reported as for reasons there are several if you asked the government they'd say we're testing more that testing carrying out kind of 1000000 tests a day and that said to increase so they say the more we test them all cases we're likely to find but of course we also have to keep in mind that india is easing restrictions throughout the country they just announced this week the phase number for life is coming close to normal they've also allowed metro rail stations to

operate with some districts inns and then once must also admit that people are becoming a bit casual about these restrictions and about their lifestyle they're not taking the kind of bitter because shien's that they've been advised to take the simply they are fed up you mention about the large number of tests that are being done under the death rate would seem to bear that out india does have quite a low death rate about 1.7 percent compare that with 3 percent in the us is that a fair defense that for where the government is taking consolation from these figures they say a fatality rate is low in india and they also see a recovery rate is very high but when you took some of the economists they say these numbers are misleading it is true that india's fatality rates much lower than in europe and in north america but they're not that low compared to other asian countries especially in south asia as the governments of the experts but how are our regular indians feeling today feel is out of control i think there was a sense of panic when this. pandemic 1st started in march a pretty big wake stream divided but i do think that people. so feeling less panic

stricken simply because they believe that these numbers do reflect to some extent that india is doing quite well and it's all anecdotal evidence there's no science to prove that is the death rate low but people also then again anecdotally talk about a lot of missing death cases that these numbers are not as reliable as the government would have us believe people are always talking but i know so and so and i know so and so who died and they feel a bit these numbers are not quite so reliable as the government would have have them believe and you're ok brought in a strict lock down pretty early on what's being done to try and get on top of this rising number of cases they have implemented a lot of measures but it must be said as the locked on that it was 1st implemented on the 25th of march was 1 of the strictest in the blood and india came up with this locked unfairly in the early stages of the pandemic but what critics are saying they didn't make the most of the time that it was not managed very well it

was ineffective the implemented the locked on with 4 hours notice and there was panic among people and big did not use this time to build resilience within the health system so they lost crucial time there and now they've implemented several measures of course which are testing cams they have. a corporate app that they've asked everybody to download and you know they've strengthened kind of capacity in hospitals and things that they are taking measures now but a bit late many people mention the health care system in the hospitals and how is the health care system coping the health care system in big cities was under great strain in the initial stages and you could really kind of die of stories about people dying in cars waiting to get into hospitals but now they have improved the situation in hospitals a lot but there's a big difference between who can afford health care and who come to private health care system in india is very good but it's expensive so not everyone has access to that and now the big worry is that this virus is spreading into. yes and then the

health system is very weak to some extent india is pinning his hopes on a vaccine that is trying to develop itself it is then india is not the leading countries flicking on a vaccine this and very promising trials going on clinical trials but there's no sign of a breakthrough at the moment and even if they want to be a breakthrough then the distribution how do you distribute a vaccine to 1300000000 people the vast numbers is as always with india the issue thank you so much for he was up to date delhi bureau tree chief i'm researching. now it's time for one of your questions to ask science correspondent dark williams . what are your thoughts on rapid kovan 1000 tests for daily use in the population. for this insert you need some quick background right now the gold standard in testing for coke at 19 is a method called p.c.r.

or the polymerase chain reaction methanol now it's very accurate but it's also kind of slow and it has to be carried out in a lab by by professionals which is why in some countries like india they've turned to what are called rapid anti gentiles switch don't test for the viral genetic code but that just from one of the proteins that that it expresses there are a lot cheaper and they're faster and they could be potentially self administered but then they're also a lot less accurate still proponents of widespread testing with them say the upsides of the technology outweigh the accuracy issues because they could play a key role as a frontline surveillance tool which which p.c.r. at the moment can't really do because of its complexity now on the surface everyone testing themselves all the time which sounds like a good idea but

a lot of researchers remain pretty skeptical that it will actually work out i mean you'd have to produce a huge number of tests for europe alone we're talking about about billions of them every week so so a major production challenge when the celebes are already stretched and and with most commercial antigen test significant accuracy problems could really erode how much trust people eventually place in the results that they get discouraging their uptake so i'd say that yeah the idea of more testing through rapid antigen tests is a great one in principle but most of the experts i read say we shouldn't expect to turn the tide on coke at 19. science correspondent derek williams that now pope francis has made a play to the catholic faithful to look out for each other's health during the

pandemic speaking to a mostly socially distanced crowd of worshippers past the vatican the pontiff encouraged nations to work towards the common good showing the pandemic rather than seeking economic or political advantage he said a virus that does not recognize borders must be faced with a love without borders during the speech the pope did caution the audience themselves to keep distance between each other and not to crowd together. that's a shout thanks a lot for joining us. into

the conflict zone team sebastian. china is roiling the west and europe along with the u.s. in many countries fears pushing back off. at issue of the growing list of human rights concerns including hong kong's new security told by hears this week from beijing is mind to yallop rice is country taking so many fights these days from

where i'm a new meeting conflict. with. all . the copies in germany to learn german to look pretty cool. why not learn with them d w z e learning course because very. well i think that trying to fight it's one country one system now isn't it and it was a cover up that not only right out right in the whole. crowd goes right through my system doesn't that china is roiling the west and europe along with the us in many countries is pushing back hard at issue a growing list of human rights concerns including hong kong's new security law my

guest this week from very jing is one who yout government advisor who heads the think tank the center for china and globalization why is his country taking so many flights these days and where are they all meeting. dr wang who go welcome to conflict zone thank you europe's getting fed up with beijing's threatening behavior and telling politicians here where they can go and who they can talk to telling the nobel prize committee who it can award and who it can't what made your government think it could push europe around like this what 1st time for you to hear that but i don't think that that was the. government position of there could be misunderstanding of. you know there's a maybe there's a lack of education or whatever i. heard from you i don't hear anything from that.

here in china i don't think so well perhaps you don't hear about it in china but just days ago the german in foreign minister heike a mass told beijing bluntly to stop threatening europe after a senior czech politician had gone to taiwan the justice parliament your government had warned he'd pay a heavy price for his visit there that's bullying isn't it no i don't think that it was really probably understood in a rug i think that you know one china policy has been. hold and has been really maintained for the last. 4050 years and also it's a basis of china establish diplomatic ties with all the 'd countries that have east of america relation with china so so i think country publish should. really safeguard is one china policy and not having those official high level visit

so i think it's a i can stand china is not happy and. they may be the speaker may be reflect that. and satisfaction so so i hope that. this is not to be interpreted. as a china threat or anything so so that is poverty a different operations but don't when you may not like western politicians visiting taiwan or chinese nationals being awarded a nobel prizes but that's your problem isn't it i mean these repeated attempts to impose your own prejudices and insecurities onto the international community on really doing you any good a tour you it's counterproductive wow i think that probably a country has set about people. magica ties with china i'm sure they go through the they've gone through the diplomatic establish in relation talks and they have

actually already. a bit by certain principles and the guidance so if they recognize one china policy and then that one china policy does not. you know also reflect the officer contact between the other country and taiwan and that should really be respected i think so if certain countries doing that china certainly has a right to. you know express their opinions as well i think that china just just express its satisfaction and its opinion so i think that should not be interpreted any more than that well if you intended a strong reaction if you intended a strong reaction from the european union you got it because it's foreign policy chief you have burrell called china your government expansionist or authoritarian and a new empire that undermines international law did you really want to pick

a fight with your largest export market one thing that china is the picking a fight always with china largest market and no i mean it's probably both market for both those regions as well and the ties and the recognize one china policy and national. wire lated or bridged and if that is happen china suddenly have a right to protest and the give. in the dissatisfaction and those so his comment i think that's that's fair fair you know that's not expansionist perhaps you're just too sensitive about free speech and free contacts because you don't exactly have a lot of it in china yourself do you you know as well non-government think we don't understand lot of. probably the government policy so we speak from non-government private think time point of view but you are

a government advisor here you are listed in your own facebook page as a government advisor you advise the government that we have would do otherwise i think that does does of vices too of course but the we are not the government we have not got the officials we advise in think time does otherwise people of course but when our government so so i'm not a common spokes person so so so if i knew if i think time understanding i can explain but some i don't know i so i i cannot satisfy you of course so you are you telling me you are surprised that the kind of language that china uses these days when it's dealing with the west and dealing with other countries i mean we have big examples like your embassy in venezuela told those who talked about the china virus they told them to put on a face mask and shut up is that the kind of diplomatic language you think is a good idea for china to use these days while the situation you've been describing some of them haven't i haven't heard before but. i think that maybe there is

a contest or there or is there is china is also under a lot of attacks and. so i think we should really have a dialogue we should have come to the occasion of visiting i certainly think that his plan damning has stopped. people to people exchanges and to stop the many visit and also many exchanges. between china and our cyber war so that's very unfortunate and hope that. we should overcome that one and that because under control i think the government is doing its best and also we see that the visuals is visiting some countries to conduct exchanges of dialogue which is a great i mean we did that your foreign minister came. to europe and he warned again last month about the consequences of giving awards to hong kong's pro-democracy movement if you're complaining about coercive diplomacy from

washington on your then you try practicing the same coercive diplomacy on europe that's hypocrisy isn't it i think there could be some misunderstanding i think on the issue of hong kong certainly i think that. young people have some legitimate concern of the widening. gap between rich and poor and things like that so i think the chinese government has realized that it is so the they have launched this great bay project so there are many policies shoot so the young people can come to integrate bring ground an area to to have a warrant to have a study to settle down there so the sort of that many years has been has been noted in the dressing that but on the other hand i don't think we need a chaotic hong kong where airports is blocked and. you know bystander were put on the gasolines and that's just council was installed and smashed.

shop and all analyzed all expect what do you expect when china has been whittling away at the territories freedoms for some time now we've seen a crackdown on the people who led protests in 2014 we saw booksellers kidnapped and turning up strangely on the mainland because you didn't like the books that they were selling and now this new security law which has been condemned by many countries around the world as well as un human rights expert fact is this new law violates both the letter and the spirit of the basic law in hong kong and it was brought to you without any consultation so beijing now rules what i think the hong kong that is why that is why people are upset in hong. why i can't stand the situation but i think the hong kong also need stability and also order

and the law of course and central government of course according to the basic law they have the right for defense the policy and security of all the countries has a security law and china is no exception so i think that you can see now the hong home the stock market is back and that they are now prepared for the largest i.p.o. in the war or divestment are back to hong kong and. it's got in business is back to normal gradually so i think that people will understand in the long run it's going to be really good for hong kong if we have these. peace and the prosperity and the security return back to china or to hong kong of course but of course. there's always people more objectives once more accomplished more but it takes time gradually being one british ruled hong kong 400 years the never give them any democracy so you can expect that. you know very

versed so with china of course but i think you know the times are allowing them to when you haven't you haven't given hong kong stability with this new security law you've simply imposed a dictatorship and a police state the un human rights experts who just written to your government aren't buying the stability argument what worries them in their words is that cut tellme and of freedoms of expression peaceful assembly and the société sion and the interference with the ability of civil society organizations to perform their more full function and we've already seen that happening haven't we you talk about stability being coming back to hong kong and healthy markets since the new law came in dozens of key pro-democracy figures have been detained including 2 lawmakers that's not. that's not stability that's a police state that you've imposed what you're sort of the has your interpretations but i think that basically you know you have and what happened in the u.s.

you know you can present trouble than our law or any violence or any. delusions or disorder so so the of course john is not perfect. you know there's no. perfect policy but you know probably china was forced to because you know china has to maintain stability and the law and order there and so that all the multinationals that companies can come back is not running away stock market it can't come be rebuilt and confidence can return the largest i.p.o. in the world can happen so so there's nothing is perfect of course but this is not is that not a way that is this is a long way from perfect dr wang isn't it i mean we've seen police already the weather but even the u.s. we've seen people east ready we're not talking about the u.s. we're talking about hong kong here and beijing's as part of and we've seen the

fundamental freedoms turned into crimes by this new security law which you've introduced and the rest of the world did you think they wouldn't notice we had a joint statement last month from the governments of australia canada new zealand u.k. us saying the law was eroding hong kong's people hong kong's fundamental rights and liberties and you your answer to that is well nothing's perfect but the markets are doing well what i'm saying is that hong kong as. part of china as one country to a system you know they did also it's one country one system now isn't it and. well let me let me finish you keep interrupting me what i'm saying is that hong kong needs stability and of course. law as well because hong kong cannot be for the last you know 126789 months i mean the there in the last year

hong kong is basically dysfunctional and it's paralyzed and been airport a bar. people were put on the order of one to burn you know on the by standards and the letters goebbels thought no country in the world would allow that and then there's no people would have loved friends tell me that they don't feel secure in hong kong anymore thank you julie madonna doing something good you think going to one the people of hong kong would simply sit by and watch their freedoms erode and being eroded by beijing and not do anything about it. if you really think that then one you miscalculated bad all i think that. you know you have there are certainly people you hung on. to have a different opinions of course that is that is obvious by the but also you have to really think that one is the new national security law. there's almost $3000000.00 you know voted. in favor of this law so so

that is that is also a fact that we should not exact but the but let let the time speak for itself let the market speaks for itself let's let the people's final acceptance for it's the 1st of i think we should than you know there's only. 2 or 3 months from this low but let's take a longer view as you say we can see the long in fact when we see one of the longer view we've already seen what that long view is going to look like because as i've pointed out you've dozens of pro-democracy figures have been detained not only that but police have raided the offices of apple daily one of the few news outlets that beijing doesn't control the paper's founder jimmy ly was arrested together with 8.