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in early february us president trump knew how deadly the coronavirus was yet in public he downplayed the dangers saying he didn't want anyone to panic 190000 people in the u.s. have died from the virus and the pandemic rages on in america tonight reaction to trump's revelations republicans are reserved others are not some accusing the president of putting his political interests 1st the people last a man campaigning to win reelection even if it meant life or death i'm bringing off in berlin this is the day. it's all so fortunately that you're you know you're here but you're so good to us. it's a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for haven't looked at the web

that's a good question that i was. never down face irons once again the president expressed calm there is damning proof. that donald trump lie and that well i think if you said in order to reduce panic perhaps it's. also coming up what does u.k. prime minister boris johnson want most for christmas millions and millions of coronavirus tests and no 2nd lockdown with new infections increasing is that wish list wishful thinking. and everything comes together it may be possible even for some of the most difficult sectors like the theaters to have life much closer to normal before christmas. lots of our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we've begin the day with

explosive revelations about u.s. president donald trump and what he did and didn't do at the start of the coronavirus pandemic veteran washington reporter bob woodward interviewed the president 18 times for his latest book about the trump administration those talks were recorded and have now been made public the words of donald trump unfiltered undeniable and unnerving the u.s. president knew in early february about the dangers of the corona virus but he chose to downplay those dangers to the public he knew the virus was spreading through the air yet he continued holding rallies with thousands of people indoors no masks no warnings 190000 people in the u.s. have died from the virus and the outbreak in america is still not under control 40000 new cases are reported every day yet trump is defending his record saying he said what he said when he did in order to prevent

a national panic in the red. river when he needed. to down play for the last. few days well i think if you said in order to reduce panic perhaps that sell effect is i'm a cheerleader for this country i love our country and i don't want people to be frightened i don't want to create panic as you say and certainly i'm not going to drive. this country or the world into a friend. we want to show confidence we want to show strength we want to show strength as a nation and that's what i've done and we've done very well we've done well from any standard view look at our numbers compared to other countries other parts of the world it's been an amazing job that we've done there was the us president

speaking there critics such as democratic presidential candidate joe biden say that the president is guilty of unprecedented negligence that he failed to protect the people take a listen to what u.s. senator chuck schumer and hell speaker nancy pelosi said about the revelations we all know president trump puts himself 1st but this time the consequences were deadly and when i think about how many people in my state died in february and march and april it just makes me angry i cannot believe he deceived the american people the way he did how many people would still be alive today if he just told americans the truth he had not been a geisha and to tell them the truth ex post facto he comes up with excuses they don't carry any weight it's the truth that matters especially when it's life and death and this is a tragedy beyond worth what the president did say about him yes and those comments

showed his contempt contempt for the american people and their health contempt push science can and contempt for any real effort to crush the virus contempt for his supporters their children their parents he had the facts and the cues to take that threat seriously making the entire country exposed an unprepared the one across the panic what i thought the stock market. all right richard painter joins me now from minneapolis he's a law professor and he's a former chief white house ethics lawyer mr painter it's good to have you on the program we wanted to talk to you because these already are recordings they speak not only to the truth about what the president was thinking in saying but also to the ethics of the u.s. presidency what did you think when you heard these audio recordings

terrorist are numbers the united states are are not work harbors that much of western europe including germany and countries that dealt with it brought a virus crisis quickly decisively without lying to the top. on the fact we've had hundreds of thousands of americans die of the cross of virus is directly attributed to look back that our government did not respond in time so we have a president who knows about the dangers of this virus is it made it an take that he knew about the dangers and yet he isn't lying to them they're up and that is tragic and this idea that he didn't want to create a document makes absolutely no sense this is not trying to prevent a stock market crash or financial crises we're panicked might be relevant this is a public health emergency and the sooner a country gets on top of the situation and deals with the better and that is why

our numbers in our states are death toll is much higher than it was say much of western europe japan korea the list goes on and on our countries have dealt with this or at once then the united states went online to the paper it's a misprint i'd like for you do take a listen to what leading republicans in washington said today when they were asked about these odio recordings and then i want to get your reaction take a listen. general well 1st let me ask you about the coke that he downplayed the seriousness and i think coronavirus despite telling woodward privately that he knows how deadly it is and i have not this is the 1st i've heard of that so i'm not the bombshell had to be your response to the allegations reported in bob woodward's book president on tape i haven't read the book the president on tape says i always wanted to play it down the coronavirus i still like playing it down was the

president lying to the american people who then died because their president was downplaying a threat to them. didn't look at the woodward book will later but i haven't even seen what you're referring to you know clearly that's a question for the white house anyway the question for the white house do you agree with mitch mcconnell is the painter is this a question so leave for the white house now i was 38 years a certain age or don't rush it but astray should. and let's not throw up i'm already i'm. what's all right for as wind of america. with hundreds of thousands are there other this is the responsible and not just of the president but a call for us including mitch mcconnell who presided over an 8000 donald trump for his attempts to extort ukraine to the election and the senate had

a responsibility to have a real good so they're really just covering president from which is very trapped what's going to happen president chuckled over much of the republican party may suffer because of this this well. and serve as you said in the white house if you can you imagine what the mood must be like inside the white house tonight. i have no idea what's going on in the in the trump white house this is america white house the obama white house they just received that real the rulers last laugh and was. screaming at everything is the president's reelection campaign and they wouldn't why did america 'd. that is they aren't with us are out of justice every our but our government turning toward our president little campaign and i later found out shot list of serious violations in

n c i don't lock up the american people both on and on a lot so i can't imagine what the mood is in the white house least the types of if then i certainly wouldn't want to have been any large if. people were supporting president of the ways but i think it's very dangerous. and you know you say that there are lies coming out of the white house yet dr found she who is the us is top public health official he he has said just yesterday that he does not think that there was any distortion in the communication about the pandemic from the white house test force or coming from the white house. you know you as an ethics expert what do you think dr felt she is trying to do there. i have no idea why he saying that because for the several months and this and that he was very clear that we needed to address that so in 1000 crisis of what he is way out

ahead of the white house he disagreed with the white house you risk being fired by donald trump now apparently wants to try to save his job by or speaking out to the president about his representations of obviously we know a poem subject record that art is telling us agree with the president particularly in the early states that will march april may with respect to the dangers as cyrus was 'd. it's very very tragic the united states as we can't focus on sots and solve problems by response aren't suppose aloof woke up and yet you know president was perpetually fake news not only about our foreign policy it was the russians and so forth for the final series that requires it as well as a step toward a 1000 american law do you think mr bringuier that the doctors in the white house

the white house task force they did not contradict the president in public very often if at all do you think that they've failed in their responsibility to protect the public health the move should they have said in front of the president no mr president what you're saying is not true. well a perhaps a or secret a fire and we wouldn't have any doctors at all today with this. problem when the president united states has the power to fire when mobile. courts ordered out article 2 of our constitution oh you just fire people with their jobs because they disagree with those we have public health officials and others he kowtow to this president feeling that they could do more public goods they get their jobs and kowtow. rather than standing up to them and when we're at least this is very dangerous for our democracy. because as you've seen is different if we run out of

time you are republican you say that the republican party is also in crisis do you see these revelations being strong enough to impact the results of the vote on election day in november do you think this could ensure that donald trump is not reelected. well see what happens. i was republican for 30 years i left for arctic 2000 i think that life simply cannot spare well lots coming from donald trump and i can't imagine the american people who don't want to see 4 more years and this is on top of everything else that's happened everything well it's rush praying the fire as if i was going to turn in the middle of criminal investigations lara's the public right left the secretary of state went over to basically giving him. while he supposedly conducting midway's

post phylicia how much act it goes on it and i think americans that will ever see an up and we really need a fresh start settle joe biden or then we'll get a little tribal but this has been a disastrous president's for united states i believe the best which our american voters will realize that some alexion. richard painter former chief white house ethics lawyer for former president george bush mr pena we appreciate your time and your insights tonight valuable insights thank you thank you very much. like the united states germany has been building a fence along its border but the aim here is to keep out african swine fever which is widespread now in neighboring poland where now the 1st case of the disease has been confirmed here in germany in a wild boar the infectious disease is not dangerous to humans but it is deadly for

pigs and authorities have been preparing containment measures to protect the country's pork industry which is europe's biggest this symmetric fence was unable to keep african swine flu from crossing into germany from poland. a dead wild boar found near the border tested positive for the virus that prompted the state to take quick action. essence einstein on this 1st of all limits on foot and vehicle traffic inside the specified area where african swine fever has been found 2nd blocking off their a strict id area. 3rd limitations on or an outright ban on hunting for its limitations or event on agriculture in the area the virus spreads by direct contact between animals via animal blood and through improperly disposed of

contaminated food it can survive for months or even years and meet eventually if the economic consequences are that producers in the affected areas will be cut off from the market and put under strict restrictions and germany as a whole wouldn't be able to export pork to countries outside the e.u. and. into atlanta as update would expect. an export ban could only be lifted after 6 months from now the highest priority is to contain the virus. and that means we're prepared to support farming operations that have been affected so in districts in typical fees and the farmers association has demanded a call of wild boars. britain is also struggling with a resurgence of covert 19 infections and prime minister boris johnson has a plan to reverse the trend he calls it operation moon shot it aims to test up to

10000000 people every day by the start of next year at a cost of 100000000000 pail it's all planned this moonshot that i'm describing will require a joint collaborative effort from government from business from public health professional scientists the just 6 experts and many many more work is underway now and we will get at pigs and 2 we get run the full. and there was boris johnson there for more on this story let's cross now to carlisle in the u.k. and bring in dr john campbell he also works as an independent health analyst's he's generated a sizable following on social media to do his reasoned and rational insights into everything corona virus pandemic photogram was good to see you again let's let's look at the numbers here 10000000 tests a day now if you look at the population of the u.k. you could test the whole population of britain in about

a week and have most of sunday off is this a sensible idea. this is an interesting unfolding story which is part based on fact in part based on fiction the factual pot is the prime minister's briefing last night at the regular downing street briefing where we talked about this saying there was going to be a trial of this new method in sulphide in the u.k. but then there was a leak occurred earlier on today where the british government was communicating with the scottish government and somewhere along the way this story leaked out and was picked up by the british medical journal and they got hold of these ideas that there was going to be $10000000.00 tests that day that the entire population was going to be tested every week but it's still based on a sort of in to go home and sort of paper at the moment so to to be kind to the author which is i think we could describe this is the government thinking aloud because there's many reasons why this idea really is a complete nonstarter i mean the costs of it are completely absurd the practicality

practicalities of it really are not there it's described as a 1000000 technologies into that was the technologies we don't really have yet it would require a very simple test like a saliva test and the governments have said the result will be back in 20 to 90 minutes but then what do you go to do with the results when you get it now the more tests that you have the more likely it is to be a poor quality test so that could be lots of false negatives. and that means that people could get a false sense of security that they think that negative then they go out and they're actually not to be positive the next day i could be spreading the virus all over the place thinking that negative and as well as not people that symptomatic would still need to self isolate as well even if they tested negative and then of course they can be false positives one or 2 percent false positives quite easily could even be 3 percent false positives and even if it's only one percent false positives that is $660000.00 people a week who would have to isolate who are testing for false positives and their

family that means about whether or not 1000000 people so far isolating that week just on false positives and it was 2 percent it could be twice that many it's a very very impractical idea yeah and you know you say this depends on technology that doesn't exist and we've heard that before from boris johnson in reference to breaks it in how to deal with the border between northern ireland and the republic of ireland so this is a recurring theme in this government let me ask you about the number of people in the u.k. who are currently being tested hell many are being tested and how is the contact tracing how is that going in the country. the official capacity for testing at the moment is about $350000.00 tests per day hoping to round not just about half a 1000000 test by next month in practice on a good day we're getting about 200000 tests very often it's only about 87190000 tests today now the system that we actually know the works with which is the test

and trace system and we know this works in numerous other countries south korea taiwan thailand places where we know this works not only reaching at the moment 70 percent of contacts so when someone has definitely been diagnosed with currently only reaching 70 percent of their contacts so this is where we really need to improve who could improve test and trace then all those people could isolate we really need that to be a minimum of 80 percent and at the moment it's 70 so we need to focus on that because this all depends on compliance this is only working if the people that i contacted in told the been in contact with someone a positive a bay the self isolation rules and at the moment they're not and another complication if this was to be rolled out more widely would have to have some accreditation system to show that someone had tested negative and that would presumably mean some sort of electronic communication system some sort of

electronic passport to say that we're negative and unfortunately our. past history on making ups in this country is not that good we still don't have an effective opt in england although there is one in ireland that's working reasonably well we know that the government has limited social gatherings now to just 6 people but in defections new infections are on the rock is now boris johnson says that the u.k. strategy and i'm quoting here he says it's world beating. what's gone wrong here. i think what's gone wrong really is is partly this testing traces to is not working but what we've seen and this is just not the u.k. that's affected here we've seen this company in france even more cases in spain that there's been a lot of i think to some extent the guard has been let down over some up there's been quite a bit of socializing people haven't necessarily being a bang all the rules mask wearing is getting fairly good now but there's been

a lot of socializing especially in younger people and there's been the spread of the virus in younger people and another infection dr that's been identified in the u.k. as one family visiting another family so home to home transmission put earlies things together and that's giving as an increasing rate and as well as the schools are going back now this is a no the source of concern because we've got new data from the covered symtom trucker up today that showed about 33 percent of children that are infected are actually going to be asymptomatic so this is another potential great driver of infection and of course universities are in the process of going back as well which could be a big driver as well so there are really significant figures in quite a few places in europe for a significant 2nd wave belgium is a notable exception it's doing very well at the moment that they've got quite a few things like shopping alone restricting the bubble size all the simple things the things i think we need to focus on let's get the simple things right 1st let's do the common public health measures 1st that we all know about and then what we

about these high tech things later aren't dr john campbell as always our campbell it's good talking with you we appreciate your time in your valuable insights tonight thank you. thank you. art now to mexico where construction crews have unearthed a graveyard of ice age mammoths archaeologists say the size of a new airport north of mexico city could be one of the world's largest deposits of mammoth skeletons. officials knew it was a good spot to build an airport but it wasn't until they got digging that i realized what it used to be good for to. the bones that discovered tell tiles that may have been buried for some 24000 years. this is enough to know that this place would have been night paradise but with warm great pitfall the money balance of the lake. and the story obviously repeated itself over and over again

the animals venture too far out got stuck and were killed by either other animals or by man. scientists say they've discovered more than 100 mammoth skeletons here spread across nearly 200 excavation sites. they're now working to piece together these animal stories and cite i can't stress enough the importance of the find. great relevance for mexican researches. in that i mean especially those taking part in this take up. at the end. we still don't know why these animals became extinct. but the site is not just one on if not the eve world's largest concentration of mammoth remains it's also a bound to offer all kinds of insights into other ice age mammals who lived in the likes of round pick soko city. in mexico and the bay is almost done we'll see

tomorrow everybody. it's going to get. a little dissent in russia can be life threatening the poisoning alexei no longer is just one example when the audition leaders who refused to be intimidated by human rights are disregarded in this robbery freedom and justice don't exist here good you can spend 30 days behind bars just for calling for

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poisoned relations between the e.u. nato and russia. this video shows the volley before the attack campaigning in the russian town of novelty beers he became popular for uncovering corruption and mismanagement and for his videos exposing the luxurious homes of politicians loyal to the government he's regarded as the leader of the opposition not only has been a thorn in the side of russian president vladimir putin for a long time the kremlin has tried to stop with exclusion from elections prosecution and even jail time but all the efforts have failed so far russians who openly criticize putin are aware of how dangerous it is especially for the leaders of protests and opposition are moscow correspondents met up with some of them. piotr there's the love knows all too well what it means to enjoy life one day at a time ever since he was poisoned in moscow in 2018 much like opposition activist

aleksei now finally in august this year unlike never any though he showed no signs of the nerve agent not a chalk. wasted aboard the ship with 3 of which my poisoning was weaker my recovery went faster than anything with you by the 2nd we can treatment i could talk again with. is a very strong torch and if your thought i can cripple or kill someone. is ideally suited to murder their wives. like never any where's the love a long time spokesman of the punk band pussy riot was treated in berlin sherry tate hospital based on the symptoms doctors found the activist had probably been poisoned though they could not identify a specific toxin as they now have 4 never any support so. i think the use of newbie chalk carries the handwriting of the russian president. one thing is

clear that only the secret services have access to special weapons agents. and they could only have carried out this operation with the express consent of law the mere puton when the. dimitri good coffee is certain it's meant as a warning shot to all well known opposition activists the liberals were not allowed to feel candidates for the election to the moscow city duma. the crimean rhinestone plenty part of this country freedom and justice don't exist here anyone who calls for a demonstration can be put behind bars for 30 days. good cause knows what he's talking about he spent 36 days in prison the mass protests came to a head when opposition candidates were barred from running in the election to the moscow duma. in 29000 independent local politician. was another well known face at the mass protests in moscow. that bought the rights

of the youth that we live in enough for a tarion state a dictatorship whose beginnings could be made out as soon as lattimer putin took office and. paid for her political activism with several prison terms each a few weeks long the last time she was arrested alone in moscow with just a poster while protesting against the detention of a reporter charges were brought for violations of the right of assembly and she was sentenced to 5 years in prison. and in both neutral nor i'm not afraid but this trial is making things hard for me i'm not allowed to leave moscow for example i'm not allowed to take part in any more protests that restricts me quite a lot with. the governor was more. on the status of the 1st 3 on protected. nobody guarded will be able to save her life. so most of the state of what might

protect you from hooligans but not from poisoning or murder. even so he has no intention of giving up the poisoning of alexei never any might weaken the russian opposition. but he was only its best known face not its only leader. about. this effect only works that the opposition is not just one single leader but if you have several heads it doesn't they can't poison us all and in fact there are lots and lots of people in russia who aren't afraid to protest anymore because the desire for a change in the system is growing stronger and stronger. since he recovered putin critic. also has been politically active again he sees it as his responsibility to press on for himself and for his daughter. my friends my family and my daughter to live in a magnificent country without putin and his treacherous system. i'm certain

of this cool thing. but in the meantime through there is the love won't let his daughter out on the street alone every morning he brings her to school personally. would you say no to this job offer like robinson crusoe you get to live all alone on a beautiful island located between corsica and sardinia you're surrounded by nature and you're only task is to protect the famous pink beaches of the italian island well the man in our next reports took on the dream job of island guardian for over 30 years but now he's been ordered to leave although his job is nonce unimportance . well you can't come in here because you see the red bull is. around he is able to drive these 2 would be intruders away.

from you if i were into your they'd already be lying on the beach would follow their lead and soon the whole place was full of people like accused to be. morandi is defending this. on the island of delhi one of the most famous speeches on the mediterranean it's paying sand is unique. and around he has been caring for this natural wonder for over 3 decades he got stranded here back in 1909 while heading for the atlantic in his catamaran. marandi happened upon a little island between corsican sardinia quite by accident. he's lived here on his own and watched over delhi ever since at 81 he's still almost comically self-sufficient. when it came to the island i couldn't even change a light bulb. but here i was forced to acquire all sorts of important survival

skills. like a modern day robinson crusoe he uses everything the island's rugged terrain has to offer like prickly pears and aloe vera. i also use the ilo as a medicinal plant to treat cuts and scrapes and above all. because the only. house miranda's only companions are his 2 hands to keep them hopping here's what. they jump over the brush and lay their eggs elsewhere. so he can't count on eggs for breakfast. that's a dead person is the friended with supply him with food morandi was once a teacher and the. from his pension. i used to go shopping myself but then i

was forbidden from using the motor boat. so now i have to rely on others his days in paradise looked to be numbered soon there could be no more rubber boat on the pink beach and no more around the and. that's of the administration of the national park on the main island madalena has its way the whole model an archipelago is run from here to delhi included. to build a research station or a new zealand there in place of. feature visitors to the pink beach to better consciously enjoy the natural beauty before their eyes so. the operators of the national park want marandi to leave 6 years ago the italian government purchased new delhi which had been privately owned they say miranda's contract is the island's caretaker is now normal and void. in public administration positions are publicly advertised candidates must be suitable. and several need to

apply. but mallo marandi won't be pushed out of paradise without putting up a fight using instagram as his weapon he's won close to $60000.00 followers they've launched a petition demanding he be allowed to stay and continue posting photos of rule breakers. i need this life here it's my mission and i hope the folks from the national park finally get that. many day trippers who visit here legally in the summer and keep to the prescribed paths think that this rosa or pink beach needs protection from the tourists towards. and those who've met. agree that he. and his way of life are worth protecting to. morrow should stay not just because of the island he makes to reflect what are

our needs where do we come from. as long as he lives and who knows how long that will be he should be allowed to continue. our own marandi can't imagine being banished from his island paradise he plans to stay live in his hut and continue his work protecting delhi and its pink beach. they are loud they are proud and they want to be accepted as part of the polish society homosexuals and transgender people are leading a difficult life in their contrie which is still largely catholic even the government is calling for a ban of what it calls ideology but that's not keeping clear activists from taking to the streets in cities like war so and large they want their cries for equality

to be heard even if that means being arrested. a peaceful demonstration. protesters say that the police acted against them with unprecedented severity. margot here in the right is the icon of the polish l g b t movement the movement for gay lesbian and transgender rights she was arrested during the protests together with about 50 other activists this is what margot had to say shortly before her arrest let me say good for you we are not afraid we are gays and lesbians in poland and we aren't afraid of anything in this darn country it can't get any worse and we'll fight back if we have to because this is our country our poland our home. since this escalation there's been really sort of warsaw and elsewhere and solidarity with thousands of

participants. almost every weekend they take the streets against violence and homophobia. one of the demonstrators is to write a study at school. travel from march to warsaw to protest against the discrimination against certain faces. she isn't intimidated by the authorities it represent is the that sonia middle we founded the group we parents because we're also affected as parents of homosexual children. our children are systematically excluded attacked beaten up. but we stand by them. at their home unlatch her husband and son coyote turn watching a video from a demonstration in august they say the violence against gays and lesbians is escalating and it's hard for them to watch patton was also there and he too short to the ground and beaten up. if you watch the news from the past few. days it now

seems socially acceptable to do something like this. just yesterday a gay couple was beaten up in front of their own apartment that's. what actually is against the law in poland is hiding a rebel flag on a memorial. the harmless it's considered a desecration of monuments according to polish law for which one can be thrown into prison. the violence of the last weeks is proof that this is becoming a dangerous war of cultures gays and lesbians are increasingly considered fair game in conservative poland some communities even the clear themselves l g b t free zones and are proud of it. stop asking is fear for their son and even more so since the reelection of the conservative law and justice party pressure is increasing on those who don't follow what is considered the norm. the

mountains between western europe and russia. and for years the country was also somewhere in between when it came to homophobia. now we're going where in the direction of russia. is getting worse and worse. the polish government sees it completely differently of course and blames demonstrators for the violence with alleged video evidence. toys by their bandits that's just banditry. that the opposition is still defending only switches or regis said they should apologize a little east and to the citizens to perceive that this new torch will be. the e.u. is observing the developments in poland with concern and the e.u. commissioner for equality has called on the government to respect the rights to demonstrate. those are just words they don't help the 26 year old and his rainbow community in their daily lives. the question is whether the commission wants to

intervene at all. for years the e.u. has avoided clearly stating what's going on.