tv Arts.21 Deutsche Welle September 13, 2020 9:30am-10:01am CEST
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together have zogby is a film legend the german director has made over 70 felt ranging from art house to big hollywood productions he's traveled to the ends of the earth and peered into the depths of the human soul. he mentions the movie the most. he's created iconic characters to images in feature films and documentaries. always searching for a deeper truth his perspective is investigative and radically subjective verda have song of the adventurer. we met up with this great cinematic storyteller in munich where his story began.
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when did it become clear to you that you had to and could make films. when i was around 14 or 15 years old when various things happened at the same time which made my fate apparent to me. among them was that i would make films. that i was also a kind of poet. and it was always clear to me that i would do this better than others. it was also clear that since i knew little about film and had seen almost nothing i would have to invent the cinema myself.
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machine your. very 1st feature film was a declaration of war on the triviality of post-war german cinema. and this anarchic surreal and disturbing drama about towards raising a riot at a correctional facility caused controversy upon its release in 1970 s. . showing the point of view of outsiders and people on society its fringes became help songs trademark. in $197900.00 least nosferatu his amash to f.w. more now silent film classic much more than a remake it was his 1st big international production the night it suited could be dirty. but good gif you personally. please let me do it. oh forget it it's hardly worth mentioning just
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a little cut. even you know as i feel you've lived in los angeles in the heart of the dream factory for many years. you've said you don't really feel part of the german film scene but in the us you enjoy a cult status as a bavarian in hollywood hollywood. says 1st incident because if not cult status is a term you should only touch with pincers. but it gets really wild when i show up in brazil for example or in russia poland ireland or algeria all hell breaks loose when i show up there with films. you say i'm part of the city with the dream factory but no i'm not part of it and i don't really belong to a german film either. i actually belong to something more regional to the variant films from the baroque in the world weary so that's why i sometimes say that apart from me. the 2nd would have been the only person able to make this car all go. it's
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going to couldn't. fitzcarraldo is the story of an eccentric adventurer ending to build an opera house in the amazon rain forest. it's clear although it was a visionary with a mission. but he felt that something was coming and. someone who is prepared to defy gravity to realize his life's dream pushing boundaries is a constant theme and hair talks work. he's into if you've been in extreme environments extreme situations what drives you to the state to seek out these extremes. he says makes they don't actually see counter
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extremes rather i consider what i do to be normal people are always saying shooting in the amazon rain forest is so extreme. but look it's just a forest. this is more involved. katsav return to the jungle again for the vietnam war drama rescue dawn that was a big american production but headstock is also a nonconformist in hollywood to. the very end with the will of its. kind in there. and a passion for unhinged characters. and yes. with several called bad lieutenant of a very in film. it's a wild and baroque. wilder than the wildest drinkers at oktoberfest it really goes
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to extremes stick won't you go back to the bridge. david. surely guess what for all his soul still dancing. see how you never went to film school thank goodness see how you don't think much of them schools why. i think they're completely misconceived. and basically poor film students are cooped up there for way too long. for 3 or 4 years. in 3 or 4 years they could shoot 3 features instead of sitting around their learning film theory or other such nonsense. they can learn everything they need to know in a week so you can see everything else is technical. could be left to the technicians. here you can learn about filmmaking from fair
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haired song online. storyboard. instrumentals to cowards. but there's more. i found at the road film school. it was designed to be the exact opposite of everything you'd normally learn in film school. there are only 2 things i tell people they're really learn. first time out or pick a safety lock using a surgical instrument. and 2nd how to fake a filming permit to not kick. in let's. switch to doing more workshops. are just is something in the amazon rain forest in peru. and in the 1st minute of the 1st meeting i said the topic of
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your show. the framework is delirium in the jungle. see what you can come up with and deliver the results in 9 days' time and some great films came out of. a guitar the wrath of god was also shot in the south american jungle it's the tale of a 16th century spanish conquistador searching for el dorado this feverish drama tackles imperialism greed and metal mania shot in documentary style it follows a good day on its historical suicide mission. thanks. in the end klaus kinski goes mad in a scene that wrote film history that. ott . it was. a good day and later
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fitzcarraldo r.t. made headlines during shooting largely due to the unpredictable lead actor klaus kinski he made 5 films with parents on who works through their productive love hate relationship in a documentary. they don't want you know probably going to fresno you don't know anything about it more than if. it was a rich person that's what your neighbors don't mom how do you do yours getting tackled by such a document and because of that you know. i know from its mother no. i was not oh and ok so i was trying for the benefit of join the sports committee n.p.r. and i'm proceeding can skim off from the cycle so i'm going to think that these in the 2nd line and got this willing. to clean the last of me and dust in the snow they're still actors as extreme as class kinski was. he didn't scream i don't consider him extreme. he was kinski and in a certain sense he was a singular figure but he wasn't the best actor i worked with. the deepest and best
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one was bruno s. who played the title roles in costume house. i've worked at the world's best with christian bale. nicolas cage nicole nicole kidman. tom cruise it is then no one. not any one of them. ever came close to porno as is depp the charisma. or his ability to convey isolation and ferocity. to right this blog that was likely due to his real life fake musicianship practically 23 years from his childhood onwards he kept getting put away in correctional institutions and later in jail and then other places where he didn't belong. in the skittish scene i mean not.
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being in the states but with the blood will suddenly have picked everything she did loose a little. bit of the side of it didn't i didn't think. just listening to stuff actually deceased. listening to the city not just the funny good. there are others who have similar biographies but who don't have the depth and presence on screen that porno i stated. pales in comparison. as does nicholas cage nicolas cage and tom cruise to. vienna had thought worked with tom cruise on the action thriller jack reacher but this time had saga stood in front of the camera playing an evil gang leader i. spent my 1st winter. coat
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holding one. piece for the frostbite turned again green. the housing to how did you manage to be that evil. or was it was effortless totally effortless work. so i didn't have to do a screen test and i knew that i could do it with us i earned good money for being terrifying on screen. that he's. been so many other stick knocked. down i have saw has his own unique perspective on the world and people his documentaries also focus on eccentric obsessive types like fanatical animal rights activist timothy treadwell. i'm here with one of my favorite pairs expressed
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a chocolate chocolate has been with me for the grizzly man spent his summers in alaska and lost all sense of distance between himself and the bears. right now though in the end he was himself killed by a bear. my mind. how many jurors after treadwell's death in 2003 hertzog followed his trail right to the bitter and . escaped and. taught from timothy traitor and so there's an audio recording of the death of timothy treadwell and his girlfriend and. you're both of them are eaten by a bear eaten alive peace pipe he's alive and well duty and the distributors and producers absolutely wanted this recording to be in the film and so i said ok i'll listen to it. and i listened to it and it was so incredibly horrifying that i said
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only over my dead body will this make it into the film you come to see me in film can turn it off. you. 2 must never listen to this i never heard her pimp ever go into. the sink you know you should not keep it you should destroy it you know. it's anything she can see it's an ethical boundary individually toward because the dignity and the privacy surrounding an individual's death must not be violated period period perfect. yet haired zog didn't shy away from interviewing condemned prisoners awaiting
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execution for as many series on death row. as a charm and coming from a different historical background and being a guest in the united states i respectfully disagree with the practice of capital punishment and help me m l 5 i've watched several episodes of your series on death row what boundaries were you confronted with there. when see. it's mention and told us when you talk with and film people on death row with who know that they're going to be executed in 8 days with their kids and if there's no escaping that then of course there are certain boundaries their friends respect respect dignity. due to respect the condemned person is human dignity.
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same spar and this is one of them. in order to film a death row inmate you have to be invited by him in writing. i was behind the camera you only ever hear my voice and behind the camera i wore a formal suit in time which i almost never do it was a sign i respect you with. they were always very open with you. meant for me all right the very 1st moment. and that's a question of how you work as a director. you can only do that if you know the heart of men. if you can look deep into their souls then it works. looking at your films the boundaries between documentary and feature film are really fluid. do you still differentiate between them. oh sure there's a big difference in which i also recognize. who but i don't worry about it for me
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they're all films there was a. fuck you once said facts do not constitute truth per se. in this age of the internet and fake news what's the truth beyond the facts that you seek. if you have the facts can be misleading the truth is created or certain layers deeper layers are created through stylization through invention through imagination. from . this supposedly realistic picture often seen in documentaries is a misconception. which is why i say i invent things too because they serve the truth better than the found. austin folk. back in south america again in the impenetrable tropical rain forest of guyana against the spectacular backdrop of chi to a falls
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a mythical location for the indigenous population. this is where hats are made the white diamond a documentary about dreams and the limitations of technology. the dream of flying a floating above the earth here to help zogby dared to experiment. in that case we had the music 1st. so in the rain forest the camera man asked me how are you going to do it with the rhythm in the shooting center on my getting headphones and said listen. this is how we'll do it and he understood immediately. it's right there goes music evokes the beauty of nature and its vulnerability. of
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the seen on the type of new york there were one and a half 1000000 swifts which came out of the sky in a huge swarm and flew in circular movements into their nests behind a huge waterfall. goodness the it was overwhelming. and the music is equally overwhelming. this one sided these who 1st raised the singers were sardinians who almost all have prehistoric voices. and they started singing with far too much energy and the meter was far too clear. and i stood up and made flying movements for them and they understood. and suddenly the movement became that of an eagle gliding from
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sri up. in hats ogg's films music itself is often a performer such as in the show of a case where strikes against music brings the prehistoric paintings to life. in 2019 the vendor had sought foundation awarded a price or i say he was praised for creating spaces with his music that were larger than what could be seen on the screen. that is so i'm sick you do not miss your new music extraordinary visionary. 2 in the log he admitted he's able to transform an entire world with music and to transform a world of images and suddenly the combination of music and images gives rise to
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something new and different that the audience can perceive and experience in a different way. than i have towards relationship with music is a story of its own. he has also staged many operas going back to wagner again and again his 1st time was knowing playing at the by a white festival in 1987. video of him clearly many of your colleagues vendors last frontier were also supposed to direct and buy rights but they shied away from doing it what's so difficult about staging wagner is that he can help operates according to different rules. from directors can't expect to use the same criteria and the same working methods as they do in the cinema that was always clear i told the singers and the others that
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we had to forget that i work in film argo. i said that we had a task and that there would only be an opera when the whole world transformed into music and the guns event in music from it. so that some fear back to film you've been in some very extreme places in the mountains in the amazon underwater in the desert on the ice caps is there anything else that you're still seeking or that you'd like to explore more. i'd like to go to the space station or to the moon. or i'd like to make a short visit to mars if that ever becomes possible mogs in this and. this is
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bavaria still your home even though you haven't lived here for 20 years and toss in many could mark a cultural roots are here by my 1st language was a very and i miss it actually and when i'm traveling around the world i miss the fact that i never hear bavarian dialect being spoken. ish understand it isn't in that of it it's a taco list consensus and. yes go to it's has inched its own country it is. the sun to make this the tumbling of the earth apocalyptic imagery more than 50 years after launching his career katz og still seed soul
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schemes on the edges of the planet. society turns to burst forth to. this country are doing. this middle of you have been winning prizes for your lifetime achievement for 10 years now this time it's from the european film academy and how does that feel differently. so next time i mean if you distances could taste well to begin with i think it's true task is really well and of course it's a little strange because i'm still in the middle of my work. and now my output is higher than it was 30 or 40 years ago but i think. last year i made 3 films but i. know others need 6 to 8 years to do that. the day before yesterday i was still shooting in norway on a new film and in less than a week i'll be in mexico to continue it. so much to get this prize 10 years after
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