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sat with the biggest composer of all time i can't even begin to imagine a world class horn player selling willis musical journey of discovery. world without great. start september 16th a lot of g.w. . big. meaning with this is our little museum the most important thing to know is that they are very very dangerous. the miners like yelena such fall and remove hidden explosives 6 days a week ukraine has one of the world's highest numbers of civilian deaths and casualties linked to land mines on the line children hear that from a very young age. mine's national. and what are they.
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that's right bullets. or a mine did this to me. lissie chomsky's a town in eastern ukraine yana cish came here 2 years ago but 29 year old there's a lawyer by training. it is 8 in the morning and as usual she's getting ready to go to work. or to. the mr i put my hair into a ponytail so i can work with the visor otherwise my hair gets in my face when i put it on. the so what did.
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i want to listen to service before going on maternity leave and then the conflict started and i had to flee my home in the water there. yellen now works hand together with $22.00 other ukrainian colleagues they have also been living together here under one roof for almost 2 years our employer is an international mine clearing organization called the danish demining group. lucy charm school was briefly in the hands of pro russian separatists at the beginning of the war in 2014 today the town is back in the control of the ukrainian government. 13000 people have died so far in the conflict and many flat. yelena fled from a town that is now part of separatist controlled territory. that it was but i'm from have a high school i decided to come here because of the conflict my town was under
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heavy bombardment and it was too dangerous to stay there. and it was a big shock for all of us none of us ever thought that something like this would ever happen to us. but they say that the. on their way to work the mine clearance have to pass through one of the many checkpoints it is close to separatist territory therefore access is subject to strict surveillance. they start driving through fails the so-called contact line of the front and as the people here call it is just 15 kilometers away suddenly they stop them back. i think our team leader pavlik checks 1st to make sure everything's ok. but it.
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that's one of the safety routines every day very monotone whether anything has changed the area against the all clear and the team meeting can start here at line one talks to that line 3 to 4 is where sergei is working. he's got a few metres to go and this is where we will start working please make sure you would hear to the safety rules and keep the prescribed distance apart all right that's very important abortion was the vote of. the area where the mining clara's are working was once farming land but in 26 teams 3 soldiers were killed an hour after they drove over an anti-tank mine and it hasn't been used since that. red mark show where you're not allowed to travel for safety regulations are very strict the team members communicate using hand signals radios and whistles. yelena is starting what's known as the humanitarian mine clearance she is combing
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through every centimeter of ground to completely rule out any danger. with a piece of wire is searching for a trip wires that could trigger an explosion. now the grass can be clipped so metal detectors can be used to search for mines and unexploded ordinance. the detector can locate anti-personnel and anti-tank mines as well as any other unexploded combat devices made of metal.
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detectors sounds on i love it's imperative now to be as cautious as possible. yelena is marking the spot the triangle shows where it is safe to start taking. most land mines are concealed with their detonators pointing upwards so you only ever try to start digging for them from the side. team leader pavel's signals it's time to take a break. there's a 10 minute break every 15 minutes to ensure that everyone stays focused in wars and sometimes you can advance 20 meters in a time sometimes just 2 that's not up to us it depends on what we come across the way. elena and her colleagues have been working for almost 2 years on these fields an area that's about the size of 130 soccer pitchers. the equivalent of
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$1000000.00 soccer pitches are believed to be contaminated in ukraine and that doesn't include the separatist held areas. yet ukraine's economy is heavily dependent on agriculture many farmers just ignore the danger and work their land nonetheless. it remains very difficult to pinpoint where mine sent a unexploded ordinance could be located here near lissie chance of a danish the mining group is trying to find out the dogs show where people have already been injured by mines the greatest concentration of mines lines along the red line of contact. we set off a star need see a lot on scout. yell and his colleague tatiana version of pence for a checkpoint that leads into the pro russian separatists controlled area to raise awareness about the danger of mines and unexploded ordinance.
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of course these events have turned my life upside down yet of what the long body for the conflict i was employed in a bank as a project manager. this. i was also responsible for personnel. you know i had an interesting jump. but then my town was occupied and i had to. say yeah we swallow. but this is the checkpoint where people cross into territory controlled by the pro russian troops. that's yana and her colleagues come here 3 times a week. there are many places where it is possible to enter or leave separatist held territory. thousands of people cross they strike point daily to visit their
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families or to pick up their ukrainian state pensions. it was that was done about this checkpoint is just for pedestrians cars aren't allowed here people can only cross on foot is a guide to many come from far and wide and often have to wait in line for hours before they can cross this is where the territory controlled by the ukrainian state and and for self-proclaimed people's republic of landscape begins the ukrainian defense ministry believes that contamination by land mines and other remanent from fighting is even higher in separatist held territory the blown up bridge marks the current contact line a minefield start right by the side of the road according to the danish demining group 145 people have been killed and injured here since the start of the conflict . back in listen chance it's the end of the working day for
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yellen. meant this is my little son he likes collecting leaves and he really looks forward to autumn then he says mama look how beautiful they are and he's visited me a few times he always points to me and says my mother works there that's her and blue but of course he doesn't understand what i do for a living. i tell him i'm doing it so that you can run around again without us having to worry about you it would never mind if i did though the way you have with us the russian as i was. just as there's numbers that the number of times that i overnight here depends on my work of course i want to spend as much time as i can with my son but on some days it's just not possible that's why my mom looks after hannah by the missing mom a man who gets. 'd 'd
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in their free time mine claire is trying to distract them sounds from the harsh realities of the conflict it is a fact of the mold. in our apartment block was hit and badly damaged it was a 10 story building with lots of apartments shells hit the top floor and the building next door the top 7 floors of the block just folded in on themselves. and i like playing piano but i can't at the moment i had to abandon my piano but almost. 7 am the next back.
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recorded we have breakfast together but everyone comes to the table when it suits them. to mind clara's come from different regions and have very different professional backgrounds. alexei you know rice co is 32 and used to work as a psychologist now he works as the project coordinator here. he retrained as a specialist in the identification and defusing of explosive devices when the mine clearance finds something it's alexei who decides how they should proceed. what will. suddenly present far enough activity you know when you see if there's anything inside. it's an open wooden crate. ok what your position would.
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act line to. roger. can you see me. a lank sangomas to take a look for himself on all this is what we found was there's the back with the tools . moving the fellows or whether the i should come will be a positive move more we've just decided that we'll have to remove the crate 1st from a considerable distance of one of. the door then we need a rope in the caribbean or cliff to do that kind of you know we will all move 50 meters away and then it could be a booby trap of the most. yessica most of the hood you create might be concealing a grenade or a landmine or something like that it's going to be sure. who's coming with me more
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than me. alexei needs as many details as possible. to the metal detector people or the crate rim the you will follow almost the yes but i didn't go any. further just up to the line. let's take off our byes ors. more tools are needed for the next step. just 7 kilometers away children are attending school. it's 10 am morning break time for the reno and the other children. in school number 23 the dangers of mines and unexploded bombers is also a topic. children are particularly at risk when they are playing outside in the field song words that's why tatiana is
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here to give a talk. i just got us dog good morning children. a because it really is tell me what you can see on the picture here. munition grenades and what are they. right bullets. and what you quoted so tell me what do you think happened here. it was awful their mama told them that they weren't allowed to go there because they were landmines. but he didn't listen and he stepped on a mine helpful but. he just wanted to look him play the big guy a bit. but he didn't watch where he was stepping on a mine exploded. and he lost
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a leg and eye and an arm even. if there's a lot of it even if he. oh is that what over here tatiana often uses store is to get across the danger of mayans to the younger children. let me does a little bit of wood you know we do most of the sessions with the children help before the long holidays so they know how to behave when they're playing outdoors without their parents it means to virginia but i wouldn't say i did it. in eastern ukraine about 200000 children have to war through land contaminated with landmines and explosives on their way to school yes. i'm not scared but i wouldn't like to see a sign like that because there could be landmines right next to it and.
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according to the united nations unexploded bombs i'm glad mines but the most common cause of death or severe injury among children in ukraine. a destroyed weapons warehouse 100 kilometers further solve of lizzie chance. in june 28th and amy fire scattered munition and expose them surround the area. a tragedy waiting to happen to elena and her son sasha. he told me he founded when he was walking around and he saw it somewhere amongst the plants that he picked it up and took it home with him just not in. a relevant way the only times my son was sitting there his tablet was plugged in the t.v. and the lights were on and he said he was just looking at the thing when it exploded
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from one minute to the next you know everything looked as if it had gone through the shredder. he said himself that he had no idea what had happened we pulling for him. it was the place i was standing outside and had to crawl in through the window to get to him he was lying against the inside of the door and i even had to fetch our documents otherwise he wouldn't have been treated even in the case like this that there was broken glass everywhere else all came. from one of his hands was blown off and the splinters went through his eye and one in his forehead. as they couldn't save his i wasn't going to map of it yet that pollutant who had a woman. not just
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a. short. in the meantime yelena and alexei have called the rope and the kind of been a clip that they need to examine the crate more closely. everyone else has gathered at a safe distance 50 meters away. they are all waiting down. and i'd say is now the only one near the crack. that it would hold like say is going to attach the caribbean or clip it or they will then he's going to leave the area and pull the rope. first he has to take cover we'll call the rope hole. we're all curious to see what happens then.
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there's a secret to speaking everyone has to squat down no one is allowed to stand going to start pulling. the rope seems to have got tangled up. if something doesn't explode splinters and stones can become fatal projectiles and they're wearing bulletproof fasts for that reason but protective clothing is of no use if a landmine goes off in the immediate vicinity. there's no explosion we have to wait another 5 minutes to be on the safe side. of the. it's vital that we always stick to that safety procedure and wait each time one is more than a mobile not go on
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a football goal or that we can only approach the scientists there is be no explosion up to 5 minutes. clear relief around. the only thing that i've come across the safety cap of a detonator from a highly explosive projectile. there are probably needs inside this great. resource of here to use it as a target of that appearance and. who. experiences like this bring people closer look at the vertigo anything you heard or would hear we've become something of a little family because we spent most of the day together more.
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than a lot. of sugar in. the lunch break brings some relief when i leave the minefield the tension of the last few hours begins to wave operate. lizzie chance. anatoly and his wife have been living here since 2015 after fleeing fighting in the rebel held territory ana tolly is making a broom out of out plastic bottles but he wouldn't be able to cope without the help of his daughter oksana. oxana. give me the bottles please so i can start their.
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water. when the separatists took over our farm and started looting plan during we decided to flee. with. packed our things and set off. we didn't get very far. maybe a 100 meters. there. and then it got us there. as anatoly and his wife were fleeing an anti-tank mine exploded under that calm he's unsure which side of the town took the brunt of the explosion both of them were critically injured his wife is barely able to leave her bed. i'm finished oh yeah. sure what do i have to show for
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landmines or i got this from a land mine. what and i got this from a mine i do here or that's what's left of me. or. i was always very active. and i couldn't sit still. i ran i jumped i sang and i danced there was this is my daughter she lives with us now. and we cried together but. since 2014 almost 2000 people in eastern ukraine have been severely injured or killed by landmines all bombs. after a tiring day it's important for a leg scientist switch off and take some time out from what.
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this is going to do for you exercise helps to get me in my feelings under control and it helps to make better decisions than i did of. to keep that in order. for them to talk about stuff it's dangerous work and it's important to stay alert and remain level headed that up with me if you can't afford to be controlled by your fears. that then again nothing before i came here i had no 1st hand experience of the conflict i'd never seen a real take or munition and i had no idea about any of that is that all i'm saying worked in a community mental health center at some point the fallout from the conflict started to become powerful in his town too much of the water from the gulf war and then when the conflict began many refugees from the areas not controlled by ukraine
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arrived in my town or. brought them or yeah i thought to myself i have to do something with the words. the next day and it's been pouring down yelena alexei and the team can't venture out. it's too dangerous when it rains advisers and i can't see what's in front of them so instead they tend to tasks they don't usually have time for the going this mean wheezy this is our little museum. i label every minute of every explosive device the book will open up and wasn't and these are the descriptions with information about each particular one of them with devices and that's the one. where you do you give her some praise i don't know there's room for improvement just kidding there's a little. before what does he know. but this is an antitank mine the
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t.m. $62.00 it's made of metal and plastic and it detonates when pressure is applied from above. and these kind of anti-tank mines were found in the area where ya know while according to the annual land mine monitor report crane is among the top 5 countries in the world in terms of numbers of deaths and injuries linked to land mines and other explosives. in countries like mali and iraq . most of the team mining team have known each other for 2 years now every 4 weeks they get a few days off many don't come from the region originally so they often spend their evenings together. in their.
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cars. it's estimated it could take 40 years to fully caveat areas in eastern ukraine as mines 40 years before the people here can move freely without fear or danger sic the more can we do we whole bunch everyone who was able to the majority left my hometown is my they went wherever they could that i'd leave my family scattered in all directions so i stayed close by in the hope that things might get better at some point was a bit of that that's my dream in the woods but then. what
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