recently over disposable smart new solutions christine said you know. it's truly unique and we know that that. is why how to live and survive. the environment to suit your global 3000 on t w. this is. coming up today talks continue in doha to determine future. what is the future that gives women and minorities their rights their own it's one of the key questions around the course and i'll be speaking to one of those 1st time the costs of fighting for them. plus why is it. so old people there say victims are being.

welcomed. it's good to have you with us the united nations on tuesday adopted a resolution welcoming talks between the afghan government and the taliban the talks which got underway last weekend in doha bring together 2 sides that's a 40 each other for nearly 20 yeahs. and negotiators and diplomats are pushing for a ceasefire as a 1st step to a longer roadmap to peace but the taliban have so far today to their team is to establish as a quote truly islamic country with no details provided as to what that means there are fears that given the budget to groups. that could take away from women and minorities rights that have been hard won in the past 2 decades. lay down their weapons. we're fed up. that's the message of these afghan women who

marched in jalalabad as the government and the taliban engaged in high profile discussions about the future of their country. the protests brought together young and old generations united by a longing for peace. but only when our taliban brothers come down from the mountains and put down their weapons then the mothers will be happy. we support the peace negotiations between the taliban and the government we're tired of the killing of our fellow afghans we want peace. the other message we want to have a say right now and in afghanistan's future society. is how we call on the taliban to consider women's rights then we're going to peace. but the taliban's track record and recent comments and doha have some worry that women's

rights will be sacrificed in a future deal. taliban negotiators have repeatedly said they want to establish an islamic system in afghanistan. these women have made their voices heard and they're hoping the men in power will listen. so will the soldier corsi is an afghan politician and one of only 4 women who are part of the afghan government's negotiating team in the door harman school say welcome to the program at the outset i'm just going to ask you straight out all women's rights and the rights of minorities on the agenda for talks with the taliban. thank you. secondly we have to make sure these costs before the peace agreement is suffering which we cannot do when. this isn't living

up under god does not yet here social status or language or their religious r.c. . dependency they have to see themselves to see themselves in the future of our government we are still at the very early stages where we basically discuss. issues the rules the procedures but eventually over time. we have to make sure that all the rights of the citizens of afghanistan are peace after the fact that you said that you have to make sure in the course of time that the rights of citizens were be preserved and protected but as someone who has negotiated with the taliban before what gives you hope that that negotiation especially on the point of women's rights will come to fruition with the taliban.

you see we have to really as a muslim country we have to live. to the standards of world we have to see what other muslim countries practices to our guests that it's worth a citizen especially because the emergence of this happens if you look at the country that i was in country that if you look at a 'd country or you know apply our neighbors across not in the region outside the region they have heard up over time progress and try to ensure the female gender of the society have it right and the main that they participate is not just a matter of ensuring rights to give a justice to the woman but also good response about it yet equal citizens like will the so. above them once again cannot be materialized the peace not is about bringing cease and stability in the country it's about bringing. prosperity for the people of understand we have to really define what does that mean when we talk

about peace because if peace means you make an easy take more than half of the population but who are what i think the more they define a probability that we're graduates last does not mean peace peace means you we include everybody in the decisions we there was a higher they're given an opportunity a problem. just. can't be for everyone so therefore i think the taleban has political or military experience extremist groups just realize that today to punish them have to live with those of the world if we would really define a country that is in peace with itself and in peace with the world and then we will not be achieved without including or. as you correctly point out of dallas on how serious the taliban in doha have said that they want to go to a truly islamic country i'm wondering what the term means far gone it sounds women

. we lately have. conducted a lawyer which is a gun company to understand. their purpose was to consult people and people from across local life including religious scholars woman younger generation forms of these not participated in that we're going to provide an outline oh what is your definition what is your expectation of the process and was it what the the outcome of the invasion in terms of you know a country with which will keep it flying by gambling the meeting i'm. like with the subject was so proud of how many streams we also have creating and in some cases to be honest we ought to have the ideas also shared. by many by can people.

do you have into position which mixes. islam with traditional practices but it isn't doing this i mean you make it up out of the major work well as an advocate of the job which is not once not i think it's a tradition so that's what i think been the means of the war and the provision but. there we have a clear clear kind of muthafucka of that in the loya jirgah decision and the confusion and confusion is the compensation as being when it comes to the rights of the cities by every ask i think any where we have 30 seconds left just like a quick response from you on this i mean you want somebody who knows what it means to face the thought of money will survive to a fascination of times your hand is still in

a cost all of that assassination attempt wasn't claimed by the taliban your husband was jailed by the group in the only 2000 i'm wondering how you negotiate with a group that has tried to kill you. you may think that anymore she did not think this major challenge it's not an easy process it's a complicated multi-dimensional process but you talk with people you knew going to be people with whom you share. what you have so many differences i understand that all of us have gone through so much i have been a victim of what i'm like me every up and that is in. their life what but i think to that end big 'd mike and so when i don't people i don't want to name and i do not go to the sea and the simple of that helping other people face we want to negotiate i know it's not easy sometimes it definitely disrupt my. thinking

maybe leave. but at the end of the day we have to really go to shit because there is no way out. for coffee really even there for the time being but thank you so much for joining us. kind of he has the 2nd highest court of us caseload in the wild after the united states with more than 5000000 cases reported and dating pieces of 900048 week there is no doubt that infections are surging the government always pointing to india's relatively nor fatality rate as a sign that it has stepped in to control the pandemic but then i doubt if the $83000.00 reported deaths from covered 19 can be the true picture of india's coronavirus fatalities. seign goodbye to a husband and a father. mitra died in july after he was admitted to hospital with a fever and breathing difficulties he tested positive for the corona virus but you

won't see his name on the list of coronavirus fatalities a muscular disorder was the official cause of death the family are confused. they a feel that they are hiding death records otherwise why would they take my father so far away for crim a shoo in the government are saying my father died of my esteem but they have created him according to cope with 19 protocol for the well itself says. it's not a unique story and could explain why india has only had about 80000 coded 19 deaths in a country of 1300000000 people experts are warning that these figures might be misleading saying india isn't counting many deaths a claim that the health ministry has strongly denied. a certain degree of undercounting no doubt but certainly not to explain. it to lower number don't don't it for example if you look at deaths per 1000000.

number it is about 60000000 and the united states vote for james less so population 8 don't lie out do don't spend 1000000 so you cannot really explain that you're only on the basis of undercounting. death statistics were already unreliable before the pandemic in india with many in millions dying at home without the presence of a doctor. the lack of data can make it hard to identify where spikes are occurring as the economy begins to reopen making many worried that a surge in deaths could be following the latest rise in cases. there's more a bit of a dot com focus slash relieve it today with images from indonesia judge government officials dressed up as ghosts known as full kong people to take precautions to stop the spread of covert brubeck tomato soup them about.

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explored in germany. that everything out there is a lot going on in. germany tried and tested. grown a virus doesn't discriminate that was a common refrain at the beginning of the pandemic. but people and systems do in the us the virus is magnifying existing social ills and inequalities and statistics show that black americans are more likely to die from the virus than whites. worldwide it is america 1st in total cases and deads experts point to the country's lack of pandemic preparation and the political division over prevention measures.

with case numbers gradually falling once again can the u.s. ward off another spike of infections and deaths that fall disproportionately on its most vulnerable. hello and welcome to torch of oil as covert 1000 special i'm stephen busy in berlin it's good to have you with us one foot in one foot out depending on the very weak u.s. president donald trump's response to even his very belief in the novel coronavirus seems to change and the pandemic may remain an inconvenience for the president but for many americans it's a harrowing saga. around 40000 americans are still becoming infected with covert 1000 every day nearly 200000 people in the usa have so far died from the consequences of or with the virus the worst affected are poor u.s. citizens especially african-americans and the system at the beginning of the pandemic nobody expected it to go like this not even the u.s.

president. he initially played down the danger of the virus ignoring the warnings of health officials. it's going to disappear one day it's like a miracle it will disappear looks like by april you know in theory when it gets a little warbird miraculously goes away i hope that's true. but the number of infections has risen rapidly and the u.s. has become the country but the most coronavirus cases worldwide. new york hospitals were pushed to the limit shortly after individual governors began to lock down their states in march trump raised hopes that the country would open up soon i'm also hopeful to have americans working. again by that easter that beautiful easter day. meanwhile americans have had to deal with wildly differing statements like to get in trump's advice often blankly contradicts the recommendations of his health officials in this way he ignored advice to wear a face mask in public for a long time instead he made fun of his democratic rival joe biden for appearing in

a mosque at her memorial day event on top of this trumpet spread misinformation for example that children are immune to cope with 19 or suggesting that injecting disinfectant could work as a treatment. and then i see the disinfectant it knocks it out in a minute. injection. or almost a cleaning dance it sounds interesting to me so my don't think lazer he explained there mark was meant ironically when the number of cases rose in june and july after the initial easing the president adopted a different tone. resuming his daily coronavirus briefings trump expressing recommended wearing masks and i will use an even recommended against going to bars and i say if you can use the mess. then this moment came another surprise us journalist robert woodward's latest book rage hit the book shelves the

book said trump new coke in 1000 was deadlier than the flu in february i'm saying it goes through air that's always tougher than the touch you know the touch you don't have to touch things right but the air you just breathe the air that's how it's passed yet so that's a very tricky one that's a very delicate one. the message was a perfect point to tuck for by. your step presidential election takes place in early november over $100.00 out of comp ain appearance in michigan biden summed up his views. black's verge saying that if you'd acted just just one week suitor 36000 people would have been say it reacted 2 weeks suter back in march 54000 lives would have been spared march and april alone. and so do us a remains the country with the highest number of infections in the world the number

of unemployed after months of lockdown in many states remains high. let's take a closer look at just how disproportionately the pandemic has hit american communities. these numbers are from the midwestern state of wisconsin where white residents make up 80 percent of the population but 67 percent of infections are by comparison black residents make up only 6 percent of the population but 11 percent of current infection and close to 20 percent of deaths assim are just similar disproportionality with hispanics we should note however that the ethnic category hispanic can overlap with white and black. or i was did a little deeper into this with joshua garone he's an assistant professor at the university of wisconsin in madison where he studies the sociology of public health josh good to have you with us help us put this disparity in perspective why are

minorities more likely to get covert and die from it in wisconsin. well the answer to that question is really based on the intertwining of racism in capitalism in the united states if we take a step back and you really think of any group and you limit the places they can live and you limit the places they can work and you limit their transportation and you limit their wealth and you do that for a long and upkeep period of time you segregate them and then you introduce a pandemic these are the sorts of effects you're going to see in any group and that's what we've done in the united states we've racialized that we've created a racial hierarchy and this is what we've done to black people to brown people to indigenous people we disenfranchised them we just invested in them disinvested in their neighborhoods in their workplaces we have literally destroyed their homes their businesses their livelihoods really their lives their bodies and we have done this over a long period of time that's the american experience that's the american experiment

and if you keep running that same experiment over a long enough period of time when you are going to get the same results over hundreds of years you're going to get these results when a pandemic emerges the pandemic does not create new realities on the ground in terms of the racial realities of the united states it simply exacerbates the existing realities the existing inequalities and that's what we've been seeing in the country and that's what we're seeing in wisconsin especially in the city of milwaukee just want to set the social benefits play a role or the access or lack of access to social benefits such as health insurance or paid care paid top paid leave time i should say. absolutely it's enormous and that's enormous universally but again what we've done in this country is that we have created a racial order in which the people who are most likely not to have access to those benefits which are not universal anyhow are ethnic and racial minorities so they

are people they are brown people people of color indigenous people they are on average less likely to have access to those exact benefits and as as as anyone could guess if you don't have access to health care or health insurance if you don't have access to some sort of secure income a guaranteed income or to food or to housing or any of these things you are going to suffer when the pandemic hits that carves out the basics of life in many ways and creates these difficulties for some people and might argue this is about more about poverty urban poverty or socioeconomic status you would say that those 2 things socio economic status and race here in the u.s. are much more tied together untethered together and that's why we see these results is that fair to say absolutely from the beginning that's the history of this country is the intertwining the tethering of race and and political economy of race and economics you cannot understand the story of the united states without understanding how racism and capitalism are inextricably connected and have been

from the start or i just room with the university of wisconsin thank you very much . thank you. all right now it's time for your questions to our science correspondent there williams. can you can track covert 19 through a blood transfusion. in general diseases that primarily affects the respiratory system are not known to be transmitted by blood transfusions and according to national health authorities like the w.h.o. and the european center for disease prevention and control there have been no documented cases so far of that happening with copd 19 and despite that reassurance lots of people have worried about this question i think because of the reports that the virus can cause blood clotting particularly in later stages of the disease but it looks like that symptom though indirectly driven by the virus is actually

probably directly due to 2 deadly cascades that it sets in motion in the immune system that lead to hyperactivity in blood clotting cells not by viruses in your bloodstream that said since a few studies have shown traces of virus in a small percentage of blood samples from people who caught at 19 most organizations that take blood donations are now also taking a lot of precautionary measures as they collect it they'll probably now check your temperature before you donate for starters and you should also expect to fill out a questionnaire detailing your travel history if you've had over 19 and when how you felt in the last 4 weeks and whether you're aware of any possible exposures and of course if you test positive for the virus any time within a few weeks after donation you should definitely inform the collecting agency all

those precautions i think make sense but but in general if trance. fusions were a common way to pass on this disease i believe that by now we have heard of of many cases where it happens and we happened. all right our science expert derek williams there with the answers to your questions and finally how about a coven free flight that's what it least flagged carry out tallia is promising some flights between rome and milan are going to be tagged only for passengers who have tested negative for the coronavirus they either undergo testing at rome's airport or they show proof of a negative test in the last 72 hours before departure i'll tell you says it might expand the measures to other routes as well. all right and that's all for us from this 1000 special if you want more you can check out the

dedicated coronavirus section of the deeds of the website w dot com thanks for joining us and as always we'll see you next time.

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