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the clashes by imposing martial law with immediate effect. by my little under martial law i will call a general of military mobilization and ask the entire population to unite around the governments of nagorno karabakh and armenia. the responsibility for any reason sion of the war rests with the government of azerbaijan now and in the future. push me i saw. the heavy military presence and not go in a car or a bucket as part of everyday life in the enclave. is death and mourning for people on both sides off the conflict. in recent years the disputed region has seen fighting flair on a regular basis located in the south caucasus not born a car because internationally recognized as part of azerbaijan but is controlled by ethnic armenian forces backed by armenia the conflict dates back to the dissolution
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of the soviet union ever since armenia and azerbaijan have claimed in a car back as their own territory a so-called frozen conflict that remains unresolved for decades later. in july hostilities flared up again 16 people were killed in the fighting the conflict has international ramifications turkey has expressed its support of azerbaijan while russia has provided armenia with military equipment. while world leaders are calling for a deescalation it seems on the ground the warring sides are fanning the flames off their frozen conflict we're joined now by de w.'s correspondent in moscow yuri chateau yuri what more can you tell us about these latest developments. well michael what we know from media reports is that the both sides obviously have been blaming each other for attacking forest that's not new it has been happening
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again and again for years the last escalation was in june the cme this time there are apparently civilian casualties in the capital of nagorno-karabakh steve on a carrot news obviously the demolition of this military conflict now there are 2 poles of that and who wanted to among military serviceman and numerous houses in villages half reportedly being destroyed however it might be the toughest fight in years and this conflict that has been going on for over 30 years already. so you're really getting into it already here but delve a little deeper if you can what impact will these clashes have on the people in the region well nagorno-karabakh is also a colt a disputed territory disputed region that you you sad it which is internationally recognized as part of there by john but mostly governed by the armenian people so it's an actual fact a kind of an independent state with its own political system from an economic point
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of view this is a poor area which is pretty complicated to reach and that's why nagorno-karabakh is pretty isolated from the outside world and like any military conflict this escalation will only worsen the situation now going to block has been frozen conflict for more than educate 1st violence broke out in the region in the ninety's back then 30000 people what killed then a cease fire was signed which how to stabilize the conflict but since the june june of this year we see the u.s. collation let's get some real regional perspective here european media has the backing of russia of course as a bludgeon has strong ties to turkey how dangerous is this escalation of a decades old complex. well in this original conflict is very dangerous for the entire health of us and dramatic consequences even for europe given that azerbaijan is a significant oil and gas exports to europe and central asia this new unix
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collation can disrupt oil and gas delivery but they also have to keep in mind you said that of the 2 other strong powers behind i mean it is a by john which i russia and turkey russia has promised to defined armenia russia is traditionally on the armenian side and sees that the country in its zone of influence russian armed forces 'd are displayed on their mean and border to support this over and over the country of armenia took it on the other side has pledged to support us there by john and then we have also iran well law by john minority so all in all michael this new escalation could inflame a big crisis and all 2 of the involved more activists on different sides dynamic situation there. in moscow for us no doubt we'll be checking in with you on this in the upcoming days thank you so much. tens of thousands of delusions are again protesting president alexander look at those ruled this sunday his opponents are calling this opposition leader took enough sky is inauguration day protesters
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maintain she is the real winner of august's election to sky or posted a video on her telegram channel last night symbolically taking the oath of office in the capital minsk protesters responded to call to mark her inauguration the authorities were determined to stop today's protests in the city rights observers are reporting dozens of new detentions. correspondent nick connelly is following the situation in minsk for. nervous anticipation that's the mood here as hundreds and thousands of demonstrate to stream and. ignoring warnings to stay away from opposition rallies and daunted by dozens of police already on the streets of the state demonstrators off to jail the mold in the restaurants that normally provide refuge for demonstrators hiding from the police today they literally have nowhere to hide but if the government thought that by inaugurating secret they would somehow put an end to these demonstrations they seem to make
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a serious mistake people i've spoken to are angry and determined that today's protests become the people's inauguration of the president exiled opposition leader so. let's take a look now at some of the other stories making news around the world at this hour initial reports coming out of france say gunshots have been fired in sand in the northern suburb of paris local media say police officers opened fire on an attacker who had stabbed one of their colleagues in the thigh the circumstances surrounding the attack are still unclear. hundreds of protesters have taken to the streets of madrid to call for change the local pandemic measures this after spanish authorities imposed a partial lockdown in areas most affected by covert earlier this week the demonstrators described local lockdowns as segregation and demanded the region's president step down. now some of the country's worst hit by the coronavirus
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pandemic aren't the ones making headlines every day for ru which has topped 800000 infections has had one of the world's highest per capita death rate and its economy has plunged by 30 percent but new cases are slowing prompting the government to go ahead with easing restrictions many fear it could be too soon. finally able to be by her husband's side. this doesn't cemetery in northern peru is the final resting place for local coronavirus victims now that restrictions have been eased relatives are allowed in to visit even though it isn't at the spot ana maria and her husband had planned for your method to get over to you but yes in the when i went to town to make burial arrangements they told me i couldn't bury him in the plot we had chosen. i was told that an order had been issued that everyone who died from coated had to be buried in this summit area. others are still fighting
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for their lives peru's president says the country's health care system is stronger now than it was at the beginning of the pandemic. and the government is expanding testing including in low income areas of the capital lima. so with the rate of new infections on the decline the government is pushing ahead with plans to reopen more of the economy. and even start letting in international flights starting with neighboring countries but some health experts are warning against reopening to task . and eating the nasty reopening gyms bars discos and other forms of entertainment will be terrible. yet. so yes it could bring about a 2nd wave quicker one of the window and. i think we definitely need to reconsider these steps the only. fear is that peru could repeat the pattern of other countries
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seeing a rise in cases followed by a new wave of mass burials. well here in germany we're currently seeing the highest daily infection rate since april and as cooler weather draws in there are fears that those numbers could increase as more people meet up in bars and restaurants there are rules for doing that the question though is how strictly they're being enforced place and health officials on patrol in downtown hamburg that checking how tight the coronavirus restrictions are being observed and if the lists of guests are correct you might be angry with us when we try and carry out the checks properly but we have to see them fast. that's ok that's ok and we can be on our way the mood is tense especially in this bar 2 weeks ago for employees and 9 guests tested positive for the lists were
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incomplete names illegible or false and that despite q.r. codes on the bounce. you can't trust people 100 percent you have to appeal to them police have been appealing to guests and bar owners every weekend since july is sometimes a game of cat and mouse like when waiters pull up the masks when they see the authorities coming. it annoys me to put it simply they're taking a chance on whether pozen restaurants will be allowed to stay open or not it's pretty stupid and we'll have more trouble with the lists. i haven't found any darth vader's a look he looks but the contact lists aren't good enough as they are. missing addresses are a column problem and health workers need those to trace people but it's not easy for bar owners who have to keep the lists while they count them on the i.d.'s
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the hygiene concept is a dynamic process his office pandemic too and we're trying to do it right we'll keep an eye on how it develops in the coming days and weeks when it gets colder. but one thing's for certain we need tighter controls i'm not means more conflict between party goers controllers and bar owners and at the moment no one seems happy about how it's working out sports news now and in the league are shaka have parted ways with coach david wagner after the club's 31 lost a vertebrae mn on saturday shaka have not registered a single win in the german league this season or in their last 18 games for that matter wagner joined $2900.00 with the hope of turning their fortunes around but they've only picked up 6 points since mid january. switching gears now into formula one mercedes drive valtteri bottas claims the russian grand prix after starting 3rd
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on the grid this is his 2nd victory this season red bull's max rushed off and finish behind him and defending champion lewis hamilton 3rd after he was handed a time penalty for city's has now won the last 7 races at sochi. you're watching news up next is our dot film peace talks and wraps the negotiations over the oslo accords in the 1990s designed to resolve the conflict in the middle east i'm michael in berlin thanks so much for joining us. and you hear me now oh yes we're going to you and i last chance just. surprise yourself with what is possible charisma really what you. want. to talk to people along the way maurice and critics alike joining us from ethel's
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la stuffs. it's hard to find an opening to my story. the tale of a small footnote in the history of our region. i can only write my own private memories of these 3 years of hope and anguish. is this a tale of triumph. or defeat. the
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ending to our story has not yet been written. was. the palestinian talks begin 40 days after the mexico in hamburg exactly the for peaceful morning was a full hour and when there are and you see blood on the streets and people are
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saying this is the peace that you promised us and you could not say don't forget it was only at the opi. wasn't there a ceremony we are all fun and rubbing and clean wasn't it beats. 1. 1 in march 94 we headed back to the negotiating table since the wave of suicide bombings is really close to border to 2 and a half 1000000 palestinians poverty was rising throughout the occupied territories and living conditions declined our people were losing faith in the peace process but i knew we must not give up. recently do the services see other son he's also thinking about the sake surely. in the future that absolute fact for the common interest rates or whatever it was yes going to have sort of i don't know
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going now the trick of negotiating with the palestinians who is not to address the main aspects of the prominent to enjoy. if we try to deal with a prominent arrangement now the whole thing will fall upon your going to be adequate up to $1030.00. percent over that despite the blood and the violence the process had a force of its own and in may 94 when we set out to sign the gaza jericho agreement granting the palestinian self rule in gaza the result of the uses. of talks the stage was finally set aged president mubarak provided a suitably dramatic setting for the ceremony in cairo. the morning of the signing of the gaza jericho agreement faisal and i were being interviewed in jerusalem while watching on my broadcast of the ceremony. on my way to the interview i was held up by israeli soldiers at the checkpoints someone said to me
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this is your idea of peace tell the old man not to sign tell him to come wait at the checkpoint and sign it here along with the rest of us. i stared at the screen and wondered is this a celebration of the birth of the peace process or its burial. both sides appear to have sorted out differences over the gaza strip and jericho but within minutes it was clear that the deal like the stage positions was not going to plan a vision finally it was a genuine sell through if. i'm sleeping there and i see a 5 signing documents signing the documents signing a document would be all the documents and then the guy who took the system brought the maps look the band. didn't sign close the can went back to spare am copying was walking through for saying. why walk up there.
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and i stand next to a beam and as he begins to sign i open it and then i whisper in his ear without show trying not to show any excitement op because everything was recalled and and fill and i told him out of the notes signed maps. so he says so what does it mean. i responded it means that there is no agreement. israel's prime minister. examines the documents. foreign minister shimon peres and also refused to sign. for a while it seemed as if the entire ceremony was about to collapse. because
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we had not been a part of that channel we didn't fully appreciate what the gaps were between the 2 sides israel saw this as a devolution of power as a power seems prove themselves i'll say and saw this says we have to show this is a new day and there's a new day we have to have all the trappings of statehood even if we don't have a formal yet so immediately they want to you know they didn't want controls over across it once they wanted they wanted immediately to say you know the israelis are out of our lives. with her in 2005 but they know that negotiations is says that. he says no no no. i was. they want to be serious. so i would go to them and says no they would quit and to stop it. mubarak said publicly was on the stage and.
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the son of a bitch. after a brief interval the p.l.o. leader was assured that the size of the jericho region was still under negotiation he signed the document and added a few comments finally with the briefest of answer except it was done at the very last minute. on july 1st 1904 yasser arafat returned to his home and reclaimed his position as the palestinian leader. it was an ambivalent return he came back and had to govern palestine which was divided and driven apart. or perhaps israel brought him back in order to control him. what was the price we had to pay for his return home
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was this $1.00 of those minefields or was it the 1st step toward peace and the liberation of palestine. as we made our way to promised time my heart pounded and i was choked with the emotion of the moment. i went to as i never went before kissing and hugging all my relatives and friends. the last time i met my father in jordan i hinted that i might be coming home so it cried and raised his hands swearing he would prepare a feast on my return. with my sadness was that my father had passed away just 4 months earlier after waiting for
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my return for so many years. so when i called yuri i said i'm finally back in march i'll turn on. a greeted me with the arab order of welcome and told me he was really pleased to hear my voice we have become neighbors and asked. one week after i was returned to our bodies we met once again in taba this time in order to negotiate the 2nd stage of the all slow process israel's withdrawal from the west bank. by spread out the map we had kept secret until then. the oslo accord stated israel will withdraw from most of the west bank within a year and the palestinians were expecting to receive control over the land
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immediately. but israel demanded a gradual withdrawal and offered the palestinians full control of only 2 percent of the land. the remaining 98 percent would be controlled by the israeli army. arafat stared at the map silently and then announced about it was an unbearable humiliation these are prison camps he yelled you want to destroy me with those words arafat left the room. what you were suggesting deviates from the signed agreement i shouted you keep 98 percent of the land we won't accept that you can enforce this approach on arafat and push him into a corner. but remember this a one sided agreement will not last. last it up without saying another word and summoned his driver. we exchanged
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a polite and cold handshake and we each went our separate ways. as hours went by we waited nervously in the hotel's lobby some israeli reporters informed us that arafat had issued a statement about the talks collapsing. we were all on edge but refused to cave in . or something else now is the time to decide do they want agreement or not 2 main issues are on the table hebron and withdrawal maps are out of so i believe we'll know in hours or in the days but where the end of the negotiation at this stage of the final decision. later that evening arafat's personal assistant came rushing towards me arafat asked that you come to our laws room immediately she said he's collapsed. i
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went to our laws room and found him lying in bed pale as a ghost trembling nodding in and out of consciousness. hold on my friend i whispered i need you to stay with me. the doctors found out last collapse to be a result of extreme fatigue caused by the many hours of negotiations but i knew the truth. the map i presented to him had broken his heart. there was something very personal and nice making it wasn't political. festival it wasn't that political ambition it was a very human race. there's a symbolic. picture where people live when 2 israeli attacks in the streets
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and put on their ranches. that's that the story of your lives and your homes their irony of that can be your concern oppressed your own people who went out and gave them flowers and gave them olive branches and felt that this was that this is their and their complex this is that and up the occupation. it tries your moment of hope. and moment of thomas. back. people's hopes were dashed and then materialize and directly and. so yes of course i can sad and the sponsor of.
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them are higher than the sentiments of. a man that one day i'm driving to my office and the guards tell me a bus was blown up i was on a mission we drove there and the whole square was awash we are allowed to fire bomb . and by iraq bodies were still lying there body parts people wailing and weeping even though the best. her song fair game has shown us to thousands of people were there and when i walked in they seriously murder a machine see what you've done to us traitor see what you've done to us so much as if i'm on.
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i had the meeting with you here and ron. we all felt that time was running out and that we had to act fast. if we agreed on deliberations that would lead to a permanent agreement utilizing the same framework we used and osce low. quick discreet talks and no empty slogans. mahmoud abbas and i deliberated over the draft for almost 2 years. behind the scenes without the racket of the taba hotel we touched on the most sensitive points of the process really for the very 1st time at least theoretically we have a document in our hands with a comprehensive solution the withdrawal to the 67 borders the establishment of a palestinian state of course keeping the settlement blocks intact and making jerusalem the capital of both nations my plan was to set up
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a meeting with rabin. i told him that i would like to meet with him about the permanent solution and he said it's not possible. so i told him let's do it when i returned from the united states on saturday nov 11th. no one could have guessed under what circumstances that meeting would take place. in the. on september 5th we reassembled in taba i must admit that after our last encounter i wasn't looking forward to another round of this endless boxing match. it was the nastiest meeting i've ever been in my life we just wanted to be anywhere but in that room as i was leaving the room i turned around and the israeli and palestinian delegations are talking to each other and having a cup of coffee i think it underscores the point that. part of what happens to
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negotiations is the humanisation of the other side you no longer see just the quote unquote enemy but you see a person and you learn about that person's family and their ups and downs of their happy moments and you get a sense of how committed they are to peace and you never able to translate that to the public. that evening we improvised a friday prayer service we lit candles and much to the astonishment of the palestinians singer recited the kid who should prayer. we opened with everybody love saturday night in 3 languages. afterwards abu alaa and myself joked around by imitating the peres and arafat conversations meanwhile we taught who's the ass for how to sing my you disha mama. it was nice to get around again.
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later that night i received a call from jerusalem a bus had exploded in the center of the capital. tell the government stop the peace talks. we sat and watched the news silently no one said a word no one doubted that our palestinian friends opposed terror and that it was directed towards them as well. 2 days later abu alaa called me up from his room and asked me to watch the arab evening news with him. we watched images of a 7 year old boy's funeral a boy who had been killed that day by the israeli army. abu alaa was right when he said that neither side has dominion over suffering.
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that night a law and i reached the final draft of the osce low b. agreement. is going to let them know the also be accords were signed by early severe on the israeli side and as well enough with the palestinians according to the treaty the israeli army will withdraw from 6 name cities in the whistle battle besides jericho and elections will the palestinian council will take place and much else. i'm sure there's enough to say on this is a day of achievement the visits are grubby and this morning he achieved the signing of the oslo be according to the government debated for 5 hours you know what the minister has described as an historic meeting about in a storage. order showed you today with the help of the israeli army we rule over more than 2000000 palestinians. and control daily lives through the civil administration all should show this is no peaceful
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solution or we can go on fighting. we can continue killing and being killed after we got here already we are not so bad we can also try to bring a halt to this endless cycle of bloodshed we can give peace a chance call your shallow. i think thousands of gathered to protest the ratification of the oslo be agreement and what the nationalist camp calls the forsaking of security and the abandonment of the homeland. i ask this huge crowd is there anyone amongst you the police yes i don't find. them ok you say no but there is someone who doesn't care about your painting a separate outfit mr rabin added up did. i . i.
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may be using john when the president of the united states is majesty king hussein of the hashemite kingdom of jordan is actually once the mohammad believe the barak president of the arab republic of egypt it is actually say you decide to be prime minister of israel chairman arafat. please take a good hard look. the saudi you see was a bosal. pose on a regular bill just to ease sugar. into all the great division soldier inserted in you what to do.
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to make peace moment most of. these where the years of hope when the peace camps felt that they were somehow. indicates they are bringing to their people the fruits. and opened the same hotel a spontaneous get together of the oslo veterans among them the original negotiators and. it was 100 you know it's a one day off and also one. that i'm just yes i am optimistic yes i believe that. the process we need to get out of it will continue despite the cold difficulties we face but if we succeed. we have both we have a good political push disperses for. all and i concur with that but well if i want to say that we have no choice and there's some good common language around this
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table if you can. see or show you the days highlight is the friendly perception of us where personal guards are let down and on the podium gets her phone number to me says out of. this chemistry among the women in the she and addresses out of flesh for the 1st time in a personal tell me. what the situation spoke. and are sorry. speech made i. are still at the believe show but know. that you are close to be sure each i could think. if. i was not one post
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i was valid and not since they could all be his eyes and replies a lot of. oh out of causing. i was 3. i later yet cyc rabin and to shimon peres the yossi beilin and to their friends i say to you throughout. the hour. we will rally our forces and we will sit still was clear of the was we will put an end to those threats we will succeed was because
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this nation is much stronger than its government was i think it was you was true. rabin and arafat felt isolated and the hostile environment was the peace camp wasn't going out into the streets to protest was instead they chose to avoid confrontation was the peace opponents hamas on the palestinian side and the greater israel camp on our side was now on to public opinion with the faceoff wasn't between israel and the palestinians but between those who supported peace and those who objected to it . mr of being a why do you like to make the settlers angry as. much what are they accusing me of not have cut off forsaking the settlers lives why most people said that the settlements bolster our security where is their security look beautiful. a problem
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today just to do security for the settlers. but do you see the settlers as pioneers . absolutely not what do you see them as. i see them as people who are implementing that political philosophy they believe in the greater israel. isn't it these days. some hill near ramallah bringing 700000 immigrants to israel and absolving building a society and economy of. another tiny settlement surrounded by hundreds of thousands of palestinian. in early october john freedman a friend of peres convinced him to arrange a rally in support of the peace process. peres urged rabin to accept the initiative but rabin wondered would be people even leave their homes in those days
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rabin was more pessimistic than ever. if too much is heard in the middle east from the few extremists tonight the supporters of peace and a huge rally in tel aviv this is the young israel tired of obvious service tired of chasing palestinian stone throwing children through refugee camps all sides are mobilizing but this is now becoming one of the most contentious moments in israeli history for the past 5 surprises fighting and there is a popular i'm about to piece. it was the happiest day of his life. i've known him for 15 years i never seen him so happy. he has many down there he didn't know if people would show up or call
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how they behave. and to his pleasant surprise the crowd was enormous and the enthusiasm was incredible. and the young men and women jumped into the pool in their clothes and raised him and peace and me to a little so the. total commission from i had known him for 15 years and i never saw him seeing that was the 1st time i ever saw him seeing. we both sang and neither of us are great singers hard or afterwards he hugged me like he never hugged me before. my much love and i never saw him so happy as he was
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that night. i. was allow me to say. i'm also. i want to thank every one of you. for coming here to stand up against violent attack all peace. oh. god so when the rally was over i started walking down the stairs i rushed up to my car was parked in front of his car and next to his casket his driver i asked him. he said there he is he was maybe 10 or 12 meters away from me as i got in the car driver started it and just as we closed the door we heard 3.

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