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we are working tirelessly to q. informed over whether. we're all in this. together making sure. everybody. is very safe stay safe increase in stay safe. i was. like i've been thinking about the idea of flying cities for a long time as our planet circles the sun we humanity and all planetary species are travelling at a speed of 76000 miles an hour the idea of flying cities isn't really that utopian from a cosmic perspective if i told an astronaut about it he'd tell me what we're already flying.
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thomas said us and his art works explore the pressing issues of our times reflecting on how we can live more sustainable lives and use our resources more sparingly he's also interested in alternative means of travel and how art can inspire us to think outside the box. and. i just. don't go over thank you. thank you thank you. the argentinian performance and installation artist takes an interdisciplinary approach to his work and regularly cooperates with scientific research in. institutions like when he launched this experiment in
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bolivia to test out the possibilities of emissions free air travel. this is sad to say knows burley in studio where he plans and prepare as his many projects. status and who has always been fascinated by the interplay between arts and science he studied art and architecture in argentina and then attended frankfurt's. art school on a scholarship he also took part in a nasa research project. has become an internationally sought after artist in part because his work ponders some of the most urgent questions we face today such as how can we shape our future and how much responsibility do we carry fox. came into my so this is for me who is thomas said to say no you might as well ask
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me about the some of the different parts what makes someone the course and they are or you but i want to know if i have the feeling we as humans tend to see ourselves as extraordinary as somehow superior to other species. but in reality we struggle to forge real relationships with other species or does it not real relationships founded on solidarity are essential to our progress this is. santa sena began experimenting with the idea of floating cities in 2011. that year he showcased his cloud cities project at butlins of gallery this project like so many others question the way we live as a society and in visions new forms of human coexistence and community. his beilin show featured a network of cloud like that visitors could climb into what would it be night to end. habit such
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a floating city to live and work there. what matters to sara sena is that we realize that everything is interconnected that way just part of a greater whole. this does he have the feeling that all the attention afforded to him all his success and popularity goes hand in hand with a certain responsibility when you look more grow more companies for the inside of those who you are i think responsibility can mean confronting certain problems and tonight execution was a day we face pressing issues like global warming and then equality i want to live i mean don't know when they see we're lucky and but also the extinction of certain species and people dying on this planet and of whom one of them in sort of the kind
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of a political i don't think it is enough to see individual answers to these issues. follow that we need global all encompassing answers we have just as easily paul plats why i am always looking to forge new alliances adopt new perspectives and take new steps that can bring about the changes our planet desperately needs you know where you want to. be a clinton as a couple. in or tim 2018 sad to say no showcased his own installation at paris's laid to tokyo contemporary art venue it focused on the importance of and how we as a species of polluting this vital element. santa center set up 76 spider web system. the ad more tangible as it were spiders have
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inhabited the earth for hundreds of millions of years and seems to spin their intricate webs. the spider webs were a starting point and i have been fascinated by them for a very long time they're connected to the spiders they are a part of their body and you know low rider and only since a small bug is near because of the vibrations it sends through the well. without the well but it could neither feel nor see its prey the. most spiders that make webs are blind. by creating a web they're essentially creating their own sensory ability. in them to feel the world and other species around them but. the installation translated the vibrations of spiders movements into audio signals creating a kind of a rock made symphony.
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'd here tiny dust particles attract and also transformed into sounds the more people pass through this room the more the particles whirl around the spiders register these movements and sounds creating a form of interaction between them under visitors. and. started with my obsession with spider webs so we set out making all kinds of them marking our own technique and also invented a machine together with the technical university of darmstadt the. brought my idea
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to life if you like basically uses laser signals to weave intricate web and so they're going to go to really they last move them because. they want to i mean if we're going to that got many academics interested and difficult but until then i said nobody had managed to create such as a detailed map of spider webs and this is really my team and so i got by did by the massachusetts institute of technology and max planck institute to get them to study spider webs and their surroundings to to better understand these creatures that they that i knew then that i'm innocent and you know. with a hole in it and she's like has long with spiders and spider webs and recently is they've played an important moment in his office or that's what exactly fascinate was in the mountain of that and when did this fascination start or tickle me so i
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thought oh how to corner him up well i always say you work with spiders i always say no the spiders work with me merely because they've been here for more than 200000000 years so we can only learn from them not the other way around my work is almost anthropological an attempt to reconstruct today's image of what it means to be human in this collection of bacteria and other inhabitants i'm trying to redefine our relationship to those with whom we share the planet money. together with natural scientists sarah said now has set up his own lab in his studio in berlin to study spiders and that behavior. you know look at me through my journeys admit personally. what strikes me at my studio is that many people still suffer from iraq and a terrible fear of spiders i mean literally or separate ok we can do when people visit the studio and realize that it's largely a populated by spiders and. spider webs many of them grow uncomfortable.
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and least in those i mean if we kept puppies or kittens here people would say oh what a pretty kitty they don't usually do that when they see spiders. yet spiders are very different you must aim not only to differentiate between the various species list but to see what unites us and what separates them from one another and why they should discover the coal relationships and synergies between species he was in when it came into one of the spider nets have a special symbolism because you see all these connections these threads which go from one side to the other and they follow that up so if you ask me what fascinates me most about spiders it's the special beauty of their webs never use them.
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in his installations which take up entire rooms santa said to nearly plays with the patterns and shapes found in his spider's web site. visits his can even enter into a huge web and experience the weald from a spider is destructive were. nope nope instead of with many of my works because i'm not thinking about the specter here i'm also not thinking about the outside world which makes us feel foreign or different though who can with these words i'm trying to create something all encompassing. that's why i like to work with really large surfaces if you move around on one side of this well the people on the other side move to when i move around i cause vibrations which influence the space that i had on me and the spiders respond. for maybe this will let us find a new way of communicating with one another and with my work is about. eating these
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kinds of connections and go ok it's not just about seeing what's around us who's and. i'm interested in interactions it goes on with him on a variety of levels and with different groups of people who know. what can we learn about ourselves from working with other species and does this change the way we deal with one another. sarah center doesn't aim to definitively ohmss such questions rather he uses his thoughts to get people thinking. and his work out the rhythms visitors and to an interactive network they see and feel the vibrations triggered by themselves and others. seem quaint he employs many different disciplines in his art of astrophysics or engineering biology he even explores musical composition with the help of spiders
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so why is this kind of into disciplinary work so important to have reporters that he worked on the part of you think that connects you on basically an idea from one of these there. because it keeps opening up new worlds when you only look at a phenomenon from one perspective you're missing out on all the other perspective the other ways of sensing reality or thinking about it it seems to me that these days we often forget about these other realities for. the prompt people to change their perspective and encourage dialogue sort of said always presents the results of his exchanges with natural scientists and experts from a variety of disciplines. he wants lovers to be open to gauge with a broad spectrum of finding. 'd one that's cow. i sent his imagination is humans long held fascination with flying
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. in our time the dream of white has turned into a nightmare that's due to the way we fly at the top of the earth flying is a total disaster because we're reliant on fossil fuels on lithium on batteries or other kinds of all materials expect to meet their extraction endangers the survival of many species he could have been going on down there for we need to find new ways of making the notion of flying a possible dream again. and then when i. think he is senate senator has been experimenting with flying arrows solus to variety of locations around the. east reflating sculpture only by the song and carried only by the wind and the mabel flights without the consumption of fossil fuel
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a radical concept. this is how to mass that i say no started to become interested in the possibilities of. what he calls ever seen and we'll be around. the president think that we mustn't propel him i think the term that best describes the era we're living in now is the capitalist i don't see the age of rampant capitalism. the era seen as an epoch of hope and age which is radically different from the capitalist scene. i think i'm into the dean. does everything that changes our habits but not the climate. helps to usher in
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a new era the moving one we call the era seen. an aerial age an era in which we demonstrate awareness of one another and of the environment and work together to invent new rituals and new customs to create this era of. thomas said i said those areas seeing projects requires a radical rethink on our part to enduring natural resources rising emissions climate change and the extinction of many species are destroying the very basis of our life on us. air is seen places as not human beings at the center of. protecting not polluting the element that keeps us alive is its main goal a way of making amends to mother earth while that may sound like a utopian ideal sad to say no and his team have already proven that some of their
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ideas work in the real world. in argentina the era seen foundation team has already set several world records among them the 1st manned fully solar free flight with a hot air balloon it reached a height of 272 meters covered 1.7 kilometers and was airborne for over an hour. the team's next goal is to be able to transport several people at once powered only by the sun's ultraviolet rays and fulfilling the dream of emissions free travel. on the saloon and on this earth will pull in these cultures rise up was the 1st thing people say is there how can that be it's mesmerizing and a magical moment. but suddenly the sculpture turns and there's something on it that was written by another person but as it is for me it's like an onion the more layers you peel away the more questions arise as to how these things are clearly record of course because it was a. we
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just got back from argentina and we were working a lot with indigenous communities there they have taken a clear stand against the colonial processes endangering their environment. there is lithium mining going on in their territory in. argentina chile and bolivia border the area where the so-called white gold is being mined he said and for every ton of lithium we know that 2000000 liters of water are required. there are $71.00 kilos of lithium and one tesla this is an area already plagued by drought. if we start to excavate lithium to satisfy the consumerism of today's capitalist society everyone who lives on the edge of the. it will die. along with the animals and the vegetation there and the communities who live there will be forced to leave. that's
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why we are asking how can we change our habits so that it doesn't lead to climate change. what kind of habits and rhythms does the planet desperately require to regain its equilibrium. and. we can't wait for everyone to agree air travel will have to be very different in the future. the saddest and most project has become a global movement tastes scientists designers and activists have joined the ara scene foundation that he sets up. a community as it's one that comes together and engage is in regular.
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moment of truth i like the thought of a community that works like a collective and. that's why we have established 2 foundations. one of them is called arachno feely and. they like arachnophobia its members are friends to spiders and their webs it is a nonprofit organization that is working to save certain ecosystem and the kind of community of friends that also exists beyond the studio. to this community is researching how we can ensure the long term existence of certain ecosystems and life forms. is a 2nd community that has sprung up out of the studio is called aero seem to consist of people working in the studio as well as an ever growing impassioned community of people outside who are pursuing it as a hobby there are people who believe that we can change our way of life and not
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just by changing individual mobility led by founding a movement for change. and the arab community have developed an explorer in collaboration with mit and the red cross it enables anyone to build a floating explorer sculpture and calculate its flight path and flight generation viii source software each flight gathers data about air quality temperature humidity and pressure which is fed back into the software giving us more a more information about our planet. it's highways in the sky like the jet stream for instance. i was seeing is an open invitation to everyone who is fighting for a future free. and dreaming of a new kind of boundless borderless maybe. set a center a slogan is from homo sapiens to homo photon to.
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for me art always means an art dialogue or an exchange and i for example the art involving the spiders and spiders weber's. we have to form new alliances and new ways of working to understand our world. and the categories that exists today tend to separate us from one another rather than to unite us. it seems to me that art can help us in this process of one way if you know art has this ability this generosity or this innocence is that people who say no in art you continue to search with childlike innocence and it seems to me that that is exactly what can help us to see the world with other raw. data center is continually venturing out with childlike curiosity into the wilds he said that he can better understand our planet and our cosmos. all of.
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those good. projects and event horizon has taken him to the new uni's salt flats in bolivia the artist is fascinated by the way the horizon quite literally dissolves. it's going to. be getting in the early hours of the morning a very thin layer of water vapor hovers above the surface of the flats and for just a few moments the horizon looks as if it has been ever a. the surface of the earth forms a giant mirror of the universe that surrounds us 'd it's a fascinating meditative phenomena and. you can even see reflections of light emitted by the large magnetic cloud and neighboring universe 163000 light years away.
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but if we show sort of reflection about the future is of central significance. what plans does he have for his own future. one of the employees when you. were going to do a course in the 100 when he was my plans for the future are to continue working as we have done recently and they found at the same time to increasingly question the logistics of the art industry the transport of artwork and my own mobility misses here who are from and to consider alternative ways for us artists to be present or if if we become conscious of our planet and its atmosphere then we should also start to show solidarity with all of the others on board the co passengers in our world the planet that we need to consider how we can continue this journey together . he's opening our eyes to what's going on yeah until now. it's
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also an invitation to engage with bunning questions about off each. one a little can i hope that the balloon that lifted off with 2 passengers and who we province will soon be able to carry 3 or 4 people. and if we can already fly at an altitude of up to 272 meters for almost 2 hours then i hope that in the future you'll be able to travel to interview me from colombia for example without your having to take a plane i was at the wasn't but the journey is the destination the journey we will often lose our way on this journey but we will continue on with enthusiasm and hope for the independence of.
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